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battery life concerns on wizard

I've had an o2 mini s for about a week now and i'm pleased with it on the whole. My only real concern is battery life. My mini seems to drain much quicker than by xda 2 s which I had before. I seem to drop about 10% in 1 hour 10 mins and that's just a few calls/txts and minimum fiddling.
8:20 100%
9:42 88%
I've dropped all the o2 software and don't have any tricky 3rd party apps installed only;
xbar3 ( great btw )
avantgo wireless
ebook reader
tcpmp
I've read quite a few posts about battery life being good on this phone but i'm not seeing it. I'm still in my 14 day cooling off period and i'm considering sending it back for a replacement.
Jeff

Is Wifi off, bluetooth off. Do you check your email every ... minutes over GPRS?...
With email checking every 10 minutes my qtek battery last at least 2 whole days.

wifi/gprs/bluetooth all off - not used today
Just phone today - maybe 12 calls.
Time now 14:21 battery at 61% !
Now i'm worried ......I reckon i'll be down to 30% by this evening.

16:32 - 49%

maybe there are problems with these batteries i had problems with charging the battery it didnt seem to show correct level, sent it back for another unit

17:26 - 38%.
If another goes we'll be up here all day.

My battery life seems to be utter rubbish every time I charge my MDA Vario over the USB link. I can go to bed with 100% battery and find it dead by morning. This has happened two or three times since I bought it on 5th November. Last Saturday morning I had the USB cable connected to download some music to my SD card with 100% charge at 10:00. I played music for about an hour through the supplied headphones and by 13:00 I was down to 50% battery. By that evening I was down to a few %. I've read reviews that you you should squeeze about 10 hours of continuous music from this thing on one full charge so an hour of music and 7 hours of standby/sleep seems pathetic.
If I charge using the mains charger and sync over Bluetooth I get a standby battery life of about 5 days. Obviously that is shortened with use so in practice I am charging it every 2-3 days (no point starting a day with only 20% left!).
I have no idea why USB charging is completely hopeless. I have tried soft resetting or closing all active apps after charging, to make sure ActiveSync isn't actively running and causing a drain (just as you are advised to with a Bluetooth sync) but that seems to make no difference. USB charging is rubbish. Mains charging is the only way to go, IME.

21.50 - 24 %

Charging over USB hopeless
tdodd said:
I have no idea why USB charging is completely hopeless. I have tried soft resetting or closing all active apps after charging, to make sure ActiveSync isn't actively running and causing a drain (just as you are advised to with a Bluetooth sync) but that seems to make no difference. USB charging is rubbish. Mains charging is the only way to go, IME.
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I confirm USB charging IS rubbish. The reason seems to be that the power available out of that conector on a PC is not enough to charge properly... I had the same issue with BA and Himalaya...
Answer: get a USB charger / car charger that can deliver 1A minimum.
BTW I found a craddle for the Wizard in Dubai @ Plugins. It comes with USB port/cable + power adapter. Works like a charme.
Cheers,
Hal.

tdodd said:
My battery life seems to be utter rubbish every time I charge my MDA Vario over the USB link. I can go to bed with 100% battery and find it dead by morning. This has happened two or three times since I bought it on 5th November. Last Saturday morning I had the USB cable connected to download some music to my SD card with 100% charge at 10:00. I played music for about an hour through the supplied headphones and by 13:00 I was down to 50% battery. By that evening I was down to a few %.
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My C500 Did that when I had it Plugged in the Front USB ports on my case, I normaly had it plugged in to the onboard USB at the back of my pc with a usb ext cable so I could have it on my desk but I went off to a lan party and when I plugged everything back in I put my USB cable to front usb port and found it was Discharging my Battery instead of charging it, got my usb in Back port all is fine again now
Maybe you have yours in to the front USB port or non onboard port?

I use a laptop, which only has two USB 1.1 ports but they each supply enough juice to power a USB ADSL modem (not that I'm using one of those these days), which is more than some PCs will manage and also my USB hard drive, which my Shuttle won't. So there is no lack of power from the USB ports on the laptop.
Of course, the USB spec only permits a maximum current demand of 500mA so any equpiment expecting more should not be using USB for its power supply. In any event, the phone does charge from the USB ports, albeit very slowly, but eventually the orange charge light does go green. So my situation is not one of discharging instead of charging.
I've just swapped my ROM from Vario to k-jam so I'll see if that makes any difference to the performance. I know it's given me 802.11g, which was missing before.

I had an M500 briefly (Magician) on Orange that had very poor battery life, it was one of the reasons I ebayed it, gave the contract sim to my wife and started a cheaper better value T-Mobile account with an MDA Compact, which
had better battery life. Typically overnight after a full charge the Orange unit went down to 75% and the T-Mobile one was at about 98% on standby.
My Vario I have now, my other T-Mobile account has very good battery life and charges very well off USB. If I sync it in the morning whilst reading my emails and stuff, let it charge USb for about 25 mins, it'll be full and by the night it will have dropped down to about 80%. This is with about 30 mins of calls, about seven or eight emails sent/received and maybe 15 mins with WIFI on.

tdodd said:
I use a laptop, which only has two USB 1.1 ports but they each supply enough juice to power a USB ADSL modem (not that I'm using one of those these days), which is more than some PCs will manage and also my USB hard drive, which my Shuttle won't. So there is no lack of power from the USB ports on the laptop.
Of course, the USB spec only permits a maximum current demand of 500mA so any equpiment expecting more should not be using USB for its power supply. In any event, the phone does charge from the USB ports, albeit very slowly, but eventually the orange charge light does go green. So my situation is not one of discharging instead of charging.
I've just swapped my ROM from Vario to k-jam so I'll see if that makes any difference to the performance. I know it's given me 802.11g, which was missing before.
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do you have a link to the imate rom? is the vario rom also available?

sundip said:
do you have a link to the imate rom? is the vario rom also available?
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I can't remember for sure where I got the k-jam ROM ( I think someone saved a copy somewhere) but try here - ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/ - and then save file K-JAM_WWE_1010903_106_10110_ship.exe
That is a self installing upgrade that includes the whole k-jam ROM and k-jam extended ROM files.
I don't know where to get a Vario ROM from. I did back up my own copy (I hope) but the method is a bit whacky and as I only have a 1GB mini-SD card my ROM backup image is 1GB because the only way to secure the image is to dump the whole card to a file.
Before you go playing around do make sure you have your own backup of the ROM or if not the whole thing then the Vario extended ROM files at least. I'm using the k-jam ROM with the Vario Extended ROM.

Re: Charging over USB hopeless
hal said:
I confirm USB charging IS rubbish. The reason seems to be that the power available out of that conector on a PC is not enough to charge properly... I had the same issue with BA and Himalaya...
Answer: get a USB charger / car charger that can deliver 1A minimum.
BTW I found a craddle for the Wizard in Dubai @ Plugins. It comes with USB port/cable + power adapter. Works like a charme.
Cheers,
Hal.
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Hi,
Is there any way to disable USB charging? I didn't connect USB very often since it will charge automatically and I don't like the battery be charged very often. It might kill battery soon. I like to sync with bluetooth; however it is much slower than USB. It's amazing if there is any tool to disable USB charging. Because it will sync fast and will not hurt the battery. Thanks for the suggestions in advance.
Cheers!
Michael

Re: Charging over USB hopeless
Michael Lin said:
Is there any way to disable USB charging? I didn't connect USB very often since it will charge automatically and I don't like the battery be charged very often. It might kill battery soon. I like to sync with bluetooth; however it is much slower than USB. It's amazing if there is any tool to disable USB charging. Because it will sync fast and will not hurt the battery.
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You are thinking of older batteries such as Nicads. Topping up often does not hurt Lithium batteries, in fact it's better for them. Their main enemies are deep discharge and heat - and that's exactly what you're subjecting it to by letting it run flat, then charging for hours to get it back to max.

Re: Charging over USB hopeless
Ineedtoys said:
You are thinking of older batteries such as Nicads. Topping up often does not hurt Lithium batteries, in fact it's better for them. Their main enemies are deep discharge and heat - and that's exactly what you're subjecting it to by letting it run flat, then charging for hours to get it back to max.
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Dear Ineedtoys,
Thanks for the reply. I understand that there is no so called "memory effect" on Lithium battery; however when I checked the battery spec, I always found that there is a "charging cycle limitation". For example, a specific battery claimed that it can be rechaged 10,000 times, then very USB charging will be counted also. It will reach 10,000 times faster. This is my concern. I don't know if this is right or wrong. Can somebody help to clarify this?
B. Rgds.,
Michael

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Ineedtoys said:
You are thinking of older batteries such as Nicads. Topping up often does not hurt Lithium batteries, in fact it's better for them. Their main enemies are deep discharge and heat - and that's exactly what you're subjecting it to by letting it run flat, then charging for hours to get it back to max.
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Dear Ineedtoys,
Thanks for the reply. I understand that there is no so called "memory effect" on Lithium battery; however when I checked the battery spec, I always found that there is a "charging cycle limitation". For example, a specific battery claimed that it can be rechaged 10,000 times, then very USB charging will be counted also. It will reach 10,000 times faster. This is my concern. I don't know if this is right or wrong. Can somebody help to clarify this?
B. Rgds.,
Michael

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Michael Lin said:
Ineedtoys said:
You are thinking of older batteries such as Nicads. Topping up often does not hurt Lithium batteries, in fact it's better for them. Their main enemies are deep discharge and heat - and that's exactly what you're subjecting it to by letting it run flat, then charging for hours to get it back to max.
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Dear Ineedtoys,
Thanks for the reply. I understand that there is no so called "memory effect" on Lithium battery; however when I checked the battery spec, I always found that there is a "charging cycle limitation". For example, a specific battery claimed that it can be rechaged 10,000 times, then very USB charging will be counted also. It will reach 10,000 times faster. This is my concern. I don't know if this is right or wrong. Can somebody help to clarify this?
B. Rgds.,
Michael
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That's true. It's the same with Notebooks. The more you charge it, while it's in use, the faster the battery gets "killed"!

Re: Charging over USB hopeless
Michael Lin said:
Hi,
Is there any way to disable USB charging? I didn't connect USB very often since it will charge automatically and I don't like the battery be charged very often. It might kill battery soon. I like to sync with bluetooth; however it is much slower than USB. It's amazing if there is any tool to disable USB charging. Because it will sync fast and will not hurt the battery. Thanks for the suggestions in advance.
Cheers!
Michael
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Answer my own question.
I am quite sure that the USB charging can be disabled since I used to see the config on a HP device. I also believed that this can be done by 'registry' since it is Windows tradition. I finally found it after a short study. Please go to
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\usbfndrv
and change the
EnableUsbCharging to '0'
then
soft reset => Bingo.
Hope it helps.
Michael

Wiz Won't Power

OK, I tried searching the forum for a similar post and didn't find anything but wanted to share a bit of heart-burn resolution after my Wizard ran completely down on power and would not charge back up. It would seem that once the Wiz is completely dead, you must use the AC Charger that came with the phone. I have had 3-4 RAZR's in the past and their charger works great when the Wiz still has power but they will not charge the phone when it is dead.
The only difference I see in the two chargers is that the HTC charger supplys 5.0V 1A of power unlike the Motorola charger only supplys 5.0V 550mA.
Hope this helps others.

Not only that, but if you leave your Wizard (my 8125) charging overnight with a normal Motorola power supply, it could also run down your battery to zero. The wizard charger supplies normal cell phones, so you either need to use the one that came with your device or make sure when you buy an additional one that it will supply the same level of power.
I thought I had a defective battery for a few days when I first got the device because I was using my Pebl charger and the same thing happened to me...

Thank you for this post....I thought I had finally loaded something on my phone that I couldn't recover from...lol.
Plixell

i hope you all are wrong.
my mda vario is totally dead. i tried a friend's battery and it powered up like normal. so i assumed a dead (not only empty) battery and ordered one from ebay (still waiting though).
unfortunately i have so many different chargers for usb that i don't know what the original one looks like. maybe someone could post a picture or tell me the exact type.
thanks. regards ize|man
ps. @mbn: your power goes down to zero with a different charger ATTACHED??? even if that provides lower ampere - how can it drain power from the device?
pps. i even tried my universal car charger (12V -> usb). afaik it provides 1A as well. but i can be wrong.

Just make sure the 12>usb supplies a 5v voltage, nothing more or else you would be one unhappy person.

izeman said:
i hope you all are wrong.
my mda vario is totally dead. i tried a friend's battery and it powered up like normal. so i assumed a dead (not only empty) battery and ordered one from ebay (still waiting though).
unfortunately i have so many different chargers for usb that i don't know what the original one looks like. maybe someone could post a picture or tell me the exact type.
thanks. regards ize|man
ps. @mbn: your power goes down to zero with a different charger ATTACHED??? even if that provides lower ampere - how can it drain power from the device?
pps. i even tried my universal car charger (12V -> usb). afaik it provides 1A as well. but i can be wrong.
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Yes, i was using the iGO tip that I bought for a Motorola phone (A32, I believe), I left my 8125 plugged in (powered down) with that tip overnight in a hotel room and the next morning I woke up and it was completely drained to zero. However, a few other times it did not drain to zero. I thought I had a flaky battery so I ordered a replacement from eBay and the next week the same thing happened. I finally got smart and now I have the right tip (A53) and it works fine. The male part of the two iGO tips look exactly the same (A32 & A53) so I thought it would be the same power supply. Wrong!
What's stranger is that if your pda is on and you plug in a Motorola phone power supply and the battery is not close to zero, it DOES charge the battery. I think the key is not leaving it plugged in when it's powered down for many hours at a time. A full day out of the office without email has taught me 2 valuable lessons: always bring the right power supply and always carry a spare battery.

clemsyn said:
Just make sure the 12>usb supplies a 5v voltage, nothing more or else you would be one unhappy person.
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sure
of course it supplies 5v as it's meant to be.
but that leaves me with my open question: what is printed on the original power supply so i can identify it? thx.
regards ize|man

I was told that the ic chip inside the MDA and Razr charger is different so using the razr charger might not be a good idea. As for the OEM charger, mind was made by Delta Electronics Inc. HTC P/N:79H00051-01M

i have the same problem now. the battery is completely drained, and i can't charge my phone now. i lost my original chaarger, and i've been using a USB cable to charge.

Same thing happened to me... while traveling no less!!! In my case, it was a Boxwave retractable charger: battery at zero, USB didn;t work...freaked me out.
Wenlez, you can either got to a Tmobile or Cingular store and get the RIGHT replacement charger, or get the correct iGO tip. You should be OK.

P3600 does not charge

p3600 will not charge anymore, when i put in htc headset, the headsets work, but windows won't find it, and can't charge through wall ac adapter either

ppatel223 said:
p3600 will not charge anymore, when i put in htc headset, the headsets work, but windows won't find it, and can't charge through wall ac adapter either
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Happens to me ocasionally.
Try a softreset and it will charge again.

Happens to me all the time...
Can it be connected to the fact that some applications crash and leave the system unstable ?

I did soft and hard reset, but it won't charge. Now the phone is dead, i am in the process of arranging funeral with HTC. I email HTC, have not heard from them yet.

May your P3600 rest in peace...and be quickly replaced (maybe only the battery pack...)

My phone is acting very weird too. I charged it up, left it overnight. Turned it on in the morning, it was at 90%, after about 3 minutes of wifi, it was at 80%.

Charing - need 500mah
Make sure that you're using the right charger - I was using accessories from my Dopod 818 Pro - the P3600 would say it was charing, but wasn't actually -because we need a 500mah instead of 250mah (or some such).

ppatel223 said:
p3600 will not charge anymore, when i put in htc headset, the headsets work, but windows won't find it, and can't charge through wall ac adapter either
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my trinity stop charging too...
the headset works fine but it doesn't charge and don't sync too... i've tried hard reset but still not charge...
how do you fix that?
Have to send it to assistence?

I've the same problem... help!!!!!!!

Did anyone get anywhere with this? Been a while and no updates.
My GF uses my old Orange SPV M700 as a GPS in the car, and plays solitaire.
It started to drain really quickly then it refused to charge at all.
I figured the battery had died, so bought a cheap compatible to check it was that.
The cheap compatible came 80% charged, but after two hours of charging, while switched on, battery was showing 70%
I've tried both the original HTC charger and the motorola charger that came with my Bluetooth headset.
Neither seem to work, does it sound like a soft reset might help, or does it sound like the phone is kippered.
I'm not an Orange customer any more (They wouldn't do me a good deal on an Omnia), and it is only as a SatNav/PDA rather than phone, so while it would be no mad loss if is dead, SWMBOd doesn't want to spend out on anything to replace it.

I problem with mine was the mainboard, and it had to be replaced.
If yours still has warranty, deliver it to a repair center.
If not, you have to find a way to charge the battery on another device...

[email protected] said:
I problem with mine was the mainboard, and it had to be replaced.
If yours still has warranty, deliver it to a repair center.
If not, you have to find a way to charge the battery on another device...
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I guess I'm looking for an external battery cradle and then and keeping a spare battery charged.
I think the phone is nearly 2 years old and out of contract

Just a quick update.
Both the motorola and htc USB chargers I have are both full 550miliamp usb chargers.
When plugged in the led goes from solid red, to flashing orange, temporarily to solid orange then a low battery warning, might be fine for 5 minutes or half an hour, then cycles back to solid red and arround again.

Beware Everyone !! Brando Cradle !!

I bought a Cradle for my TyTn II from Brando Web site. they are located in Hong Kong. I have been dealing with them since 2000.
they usually provide good service.
However this charger did not work, AC or USB part. I emailed them and they were kind to send me a replacement in 1 week.
Again still not charging or connecting to my computer. I skipped the cradle and tried the USB cable only still not working.
I emailed them back and they want me to ship both units back to them. I understand that there is a problem with certain connections charging or connecting with Kaiser an I tried to tell them that; I don't think they believe me.
Do Not Order this Cradle since it will not work !!
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03012&dept_id=039&cat_id=0996

Uh thanks for the warning, I almost bought the same thing.

mdshahed said:
However this charger did not work, AC or USB part. I emailed them and they were kind to send me a replacement in 1 week.
Again still not charging or connecting to my computer. I skipped the cradle and tried the USB cable only still not working.
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Stupid question, but does your Kaiser connect to your computer with ANY USB cable? I'm using a cradle (from Talkietech.com) which looks identical to that one with no problems at all. Works with both a USB connection (though I re-used an existing cable) and just with the wall power plug.
If the provided USB cable isn't working, try one which you know works....
Richard

It's not only the USB cable but also the charger included.
any other USB cable works on my computer though.
Brando contacted me again yesterday they will send me a third unit. I will post once I get the third unit.
cheers.

Also returned one of these for same reason
I returned one for replacement because the led lamp was blinking like crazy. The replacement connects to my usb alright but I have not done any extensive testing of the charging performance.
Inserting the phone is also fibbly because the slot is so wide, you need to take aim and align phone before inserting. This is a real bother. Do not buy it

I bought a Boxwave cradle for a 8525 and it's light blinked and failed within hours, I returned it.

mdshahed said:
I bought a Cradle for my TyTn II from Brando Web site. they are located in Hong Kong. I have been dealing with them since 2000.
they usually provide good service.
However this charger did not work, AC or USB part. I emailed them and they were kind to send me a replacement in 1 week.
Again still not charging or connecting to my computer. I skipped the cradle and tried the USB cable only still not working.
I emailed them back and they want me to ship both units back to them. I understand that there is a problem with certain connections charging or connecting with Kaiser an I tried to tell them that; I don't think they believe me.
Do Not Order this Cradle since it will not work !!
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03012&dept_id=039&cat_id=0996
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I think all these cradles (Kigidi, mobile planet, Brando) are all from the original manufacturer. They do work, but not out of the box. You have to shift the battery around left to right while inserting them to have the contacts line up properly. Cheap quality.

I bought a cradle that looks exactly like that one off eBay. But it came with a second battery for Brando's price for just the cradle alone. I've been using mine for a little over a month, and am very happy with it. The USB cable only serves for charging and connecting to a pc. To charge the second battery in the charger 'tray', the AC power adapter must be plugged in as well.
Mine also has the tricky alignment issue when inserting the kaiser, but I'm used to it. Also because of the position of the kaiser's stylus, there's no access when cradled, so I rigged a mount on the side of the cradle for a spare stylus.
Hands down the best thing about my cradle is the charger tray and second battery. It's so nice to have a fully charged battery available at any time for a quick swap. The battery that was included is only 1300 mAh, opposed to the stock 1350 mAh battery, but it fits perfectly, and I I don't find the 50 mAh difference noticeable. And considering the $24 price tag fI paid for battery and dock, it seems a steal. At this point there's no way I'm going to shell out $50 for the 1650 mAh batteries now available, but If I din't have the dock and second battery I probably would have.
I see that the pricing is up $5, still a deal:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...tToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

brando.com shipping
This is unrelated to the topic, but I was going to order from Brando.com and was wondering how long the shipping took. It says 7-20 business days, and I was hoping it would be on the shorter end of that. (shipping to PA)

Almost every charger didnt work with my TyTn II (after I burnt up mine original one on UPS). I just went to market, looked for highest wattage supplying adapter and it was LG's 5.2Volt 5W adapter. And it recharges my TyTn II like a charm. There is something bad with recharging TyTn II.
The old motorola charger and such going-around-boozo's worked with my Vox and Excalibur but not this beast.
Interesting

i have had one of these for over 2 years. its on my desk at work. the original mains adapter packed up a long time ago and i have an old tandy one attached now. does have the random blinking lights with phone and spare battery connected, but it works.
as said before, cheap design but very handy to charge phone and battery together.
just have to be a bit lucky when you buy i guess.
despite title, i would say buy.
@dark_prince: could be the charging socket in the phone is wearing and needs bit more power to kick it in. have you tried to clean inside socket with compressed air and contact cleaner, might help.
but maybe we just have to accept that our phones are really old now and dont work as well as they used to (i know the feeling)

Charging

Hi all,
My TD1 would charge from any mini-usb charger (such as the one I have with my TomTom). I put the TD2 on charge from one of these last night. The front light went orange, and the battery status changed to charging. However, I wake up this morning (7 hours later) and the light is still orange. I disconnect and look at the battery info and it says the last charge was yesterday.
Is the TD2 fussy about which charger you use? I really hope HTC are not pulling an Apple and locking their devices to only their accessories!
R

rakh1 said:
Hi all,
My TD1 would charge from any mini-usb charger (such as the one I have with my TomTom). I put the TD2 on charge from one of these last night. The front light went orange, and the battery status changed to charging. However, I wake up this morning (7 hours later) and the light is still orange. I disconnect and look at the battery info and it says the last charge was yesterday.
Is the TD2 fussy about which charger you use? I really hope HTC are not pulling an Apple and locking their devices to only their accessories!
R
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I think I remember reading something about an option for not charging the battery when connected on PC USB (presumably for saving laptop batteries ;-) ) in the manual.
So I guess that the TD2 has a way to detect if it is plugged into a charger or a laptop, and maybe it can do that only with HTC charger, believing your charger is in fact a laptop. I would have guessed they use the activesync status to differentiate between PC and charger, but maybe not ;-)
So what could maybe solve your problem is to select "charging battery if plugged to a computer", I think it is in the touchflow 3D options somewhere... I would play with those options to check if it improve things...

Settings - All Settings - Batter - (Battery Tab). "When device is turned on, do not chagre the battery when connected to the PC.".
For me this is unticked - and when it was plugged in the battery reported as 'charging'.
Strange!
R

rakh1 said:
Settings - All Settings - Batter - (Battery Tab). "When device is turned on, do not chagre the battery when connected to the PC.".
For me this is unticked - and when it was plugged in the battery reported as 'charging'.
Strange!
R
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Does it work with the standard HTC charger?
And plugging to a PC?
If yes, your other charger may be a little light in specs (amperage too small, or voltage slightly below USB specs) and the TD2 may be picky regarding this...
I would also inspect the microusb plug of the charger to check for dirt/corrosion/deformation, and also the battery within the device: I already had intermittent problems like that caused by imperfect connections: the device was in a charging state, but no actual charging did occur. Replugging carefully after blowing on the plugs solved the problem....

From past experiences, all my HTC phones charges up with any USB cables or chargers, even my HD. So may your battery is not working some how... best thing to do is try charging it with your original charger or connect your device to your computer, it should charge up. If not, then take it back to your dealer man! I don't want to say it but maybe you have a lemon...

Hi all,
It charges well from the supplied wall charger. It also appears to be charging well from the computer. So, this leaves me to suspect the other (non HTC) charger.
Thanks for your help....
R

OK - this just getds weirder and weirder...
Yesterday, plugged into PC all day whilst I was working. After a while green light so fully charged. Went out for an hour or two and when I came back I put it on a different wall charger for a test (my old TD1 one) and after 30 mins or so green light - so fully charged again.
So, I thought - this is great, it proves the other wall charger has a problem. Before bed a few hours later I took the TD1 charger and put it in the bedroom. Plugged the TD2 into it overnight. Woke up this morning, and orange light???!!!
Put it into the computer this morning and after 15 mins - green light???
CONFUSED!!!
Could it be some function whereby it won't charge a bettery that has been charged full in the past x hours or so??? Is anyone else seeing anything like this????
R

I think you have might have a duffed battery. I think you should really check it out.

I use a Motorola universal mini-usb charger i mine car and I haven't noticed any different behavior than using the supplied HTC charger or HTC usb cable in my laptop..

I put it on the supplied charger for 12 hours and it did not charge at all despite the orange light being on. As I am within 7 days I've asked DeviceWire to refund or replace...
R

Way to go, you should get a new one!

check the connection!
rakh1 said:
I put it on the supplied charger for 12 hours and it did not charge at all despite the orange light being on. As I am within 7 days I've asked DeviceWire to refund or replace...
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First of all, yes you are.. IF the device is faulty!
from experience, I know that some cables dont charge the device.. First of all make sure there isnt some dust or stuff in the connection. secondly, try resetting the device.. If the orange light is on, then it only means some of the pins in the EXTusb connection have been shorted, my reccomendation, check the pins on the miniUSB connector on the phone, and make sure you didn't bend some.

Hey all,
No bent pins.
No dust or dirt in the socket/plug.
Tried 3 (HTC) wall chargers - all the same behaviour.
Tried resetting the device.
No luck
R

I especially used my USB-Charger this night to charge the device.
It is a Hama USB Charger (Prod# 00014095, you can find it with this on google).
It has an output of 800 mA, while the original hast 1000 mA.
But it charged up to 100% and was "green" this morning.
So it seems to work and is really Small in size
Regards Thorsten

Well, this has been a problem for me from the start and all I have used are HTC chargers. I've not had anything like this sort of issue with the previous HTC phones I've owned (and there have been a few - check sig). What confused me was that it does appear to accept charge from the USB port of a computer - which is just odd??!?!??
Anyway, I think this is unacceptable from a new product so I've asked for a refund/replacement. Awaiting a reply from Devicewire.
R

Whats weird,
My TyTn has some probs in this department.
From time to time, setting it on USB power, will not even lit the charge-light.
And it will not charge.
I have to reset it and then it works.
Dont know what that is.

DeviceWire sent me an RMA. In the meantime I hard reset the device again after confirming that the wall charger would not go above 89% charge - 9 out of 10 bars (I installed a prog to give me a % reading).
After hard reset the battery went from 89% to 100%. I am now running it down again - before I give it one last chance overnight. If I wake up tomorrow and it is still orange and at 9 of 10 bars then off it goes...
R

Fingers are crossed for you mate! Hope it goes well.

This just gets stranger - after *this* hard reset it now appears to be working as expected - woke up this morning to a green light for the first time!!
So, was this just a software thing - solved by a couple of hard resets - or might there still be a problem lurking underneath???
Problem now is that if I send it back to DW they'll confirm it is working as expected. If I wait and do not send it I run out of the 'return within 7 days for a refund' and will have to reply on HTC aftercare (horror!!).
What to do!!!???
R

I'd still return it but in your RMA notice stipulate that you suspect the problem "seems" fixed but say it might come back again and on that note are still returning it for a replacement/refund.