Strange icones in pocket outlook :-/ - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Hello,
I don't understand what is the difference between these 2 icones in Pocket Outlook. (see attachment)
somebody can explain to me... i find nothing in doc or on microsoft website.
thanks,
Garou

Two mail icons
I have often wondered the same thing. From their behavior I beleive the one with the hand connects the PDA to the mail server and then just checks the mail server for new mail and grabs new mail headers. The icon with the 2 envelopes seems to download any new mail with attachements according to policy and send any qued mail.

If you're just using POP accounts, these icons don't dramatically differ in funcionality, but if you're using an Exchange activesync mobile profile, the first button will connect you to the server and continue checking for new messages depending on your profile settings, and the second will just send/receive your mail once only.

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Any way to Config OUTLOOK to send/ Receive?

Hey all.
At home I've my desktop outlook setup to my pop3 email.
Is there anyway to set this account so I can send/ receive to see if there is new mail - or (as I think is the case) do I have to setup a separate pop 3 account to be able to initialize send/receive.
Cheers fellaz!
lr
little_rock said:
Hey all.
At home I've my desktop outlook setup to my pop3 email.
Is there anyway to set this account so I can send/ receive to see if there is new mail - or (as I think is the case) do I have to setup a separate pop 3 account to be able to initialize send/receive.
Cheers fellaz!
lr
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I was asking the same question on other forums, but it seems that no1 considers this as a "normal" question; I have never got a reply...
When u sync your Universal with your PC, the emails are automatically downloaded into your Outlook E-mail account automatically.
To check your emails on the move, you'll need to set up a new POP3 account with the same settings as per your PC's Outlook....... and when u do a Send/Recieve, it's connected via your GPRS. E-mails downloaded into your Universal will still be downloaded onto your PC when u do a Send/Recieve on your PC's Outlook....That means the same email will appear in both the Outlook E-mail and POP3 accounts on your Universal
Wonder if I'm making any sense......
airbag14 said:
When u sync your Universal with your PC, the emails are automatically downloaded into your Outlook E-mail account automatically.
To check your emails on the move, you'll need to set up a new POP3 account with the same settings as per your PC's Outlook....... and when u do a Send/Recieve, it's connected via your GPRS. E-mails downloaded into your Universal will still be downloaded onto your PC when u do a Send/Recieve on your PC's Outlook....That means the same email will appear in both the Outlook E-mail and POP3 accounts on your Universal
Wonder if I'm making any sense......
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You do make sense, but… you have just explained to us what we’ve already knew. I would just like to have normal SEND/RECEIVE in pOutlook without having to setup the same thing on the side (my Yahoo pop3). And after that they could synchronize normally…
I hope that I made some sense now…
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Yup perfect sense,
the phrase that airbag14 was looking for was:
'no you can't, not to our knowledge'
Gareth
airbag14 said:
When u sync your Universal with your PC, the emails are automatically downloaded into your Outlook E-mail account automatically.
To check your emails on the move, you'll need to set up a new POP3 account with the same settings as per your PC's Outlook....... and when u do a Send/Recieve, it's connected via your GPRS. E-mails downloaded into your Universal will still be downloaded onto your PC when u do a Send/Recieve on your PC's Outlook....That means the same email will appear in both the Outlook E-mail and POP3 accounts on your Universal
Wonder if I'm making any sense......
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Or just use exchange
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I struggled for quite some time to make email work 'properly' on using my MDA Pro.
First, note that I use Outlook on the desktop. My situation is complicated because I have multiple accounts that I want to sync.
What I found was:
1. Syncing desktop & pocket outlook mail is useless, unless one uses exchange. There is no way to send and receive mail short of syncing with the desktop. And given that activesync 4 cannot sync over the net, means that messages I want to send are stored until I manage to get close to my desktop. Totally stupid design. Someone must have been smoking illegal substances when s/he came up with it.
2. Switching both desktop and PPC to POP sort-of works, but there are severe problems. The first is that a pop account on the PPC is completely separate from the outlook-synced account, so messages appear twice on the PPC. The second is that if either the desktop or the PPC delete messages off server, then the other device gets confused. Copying a message to another folder on the PPC causes the message to be removed from the server, so that it never arrives in the desktop. Read message indications are not reliable. etc etc.
3. Switching to IMAP on both the desktop and the PPC works the best. One ends up with a set of IMAP folders on both the desktop and PPC, separate from the 'normal' outlook inbox (which are no longer used). Operations on either the desktop or PPC are reflected in the other device when mail is checked. Of course, it is absolutely imperative that both devices download messages, not just headers.
So, in the end I have a set of IMAP folders on both devices for each account. Both devices are set up to download messages + headers. The desktop downloads the entire message + attachments. The PPC downloads 15K of the message and no attachments. Deleting a message on one deletes on the other (when mail is checked). Reading a message on one caused the message to be marked 'read' on the other.
Messages sent from the PPC show up in desktop outlook's IMAP sent items folder. The reverse is not true, because desktop outlook puts sent messages into a generic 'sent items' folder, not the IMAP one. This is not a problem for me.
I have turned off activesync for all mail folders, because sync is done using IMAP. I still use activesync for contacts etc.
FWIW, IMAP in desktop outlook has a few problems. The worst is that sometimes it decides to duplicate a message. IMAP is also a bit more sensitive to network glitches, "disconnecting" from the server and requiring outlook to be restarted to reconnect. In addition, as messages are left on the server more-or-less permanently, one might run into quota problems.
mailbox copy
I stumbled on this mailbox problem here again.
I got exactly this issue, as my provider gives me Pop3 (can't get imap to work), and I cant reply on mails when i'm out (outlook mailbox has no send-receive)
Now I figured out, that in case if I COULD do an mail-box copy on my device from outlook-inbox to anonther account inbox, and before syncing do and send-items-box copy back to outlook send-items-box, this would solve a BIG part of my problem.
Has anyone EVER heard of an app that can let you copy whole mailboxes between accounts on your PPC device?
I also posted this question befor but to be sure are you all saying in a round about way.........
i ave a pop email account on my laptop, this i sync with a cable to my Exec, And on my Exec i also have a pop3 account the same account as on my laptop....
so if i am out ( and my laptop is not on) i use the pop3 account on my Exec for sending and recieving mail no problem, BUT if whilst out i see from my Sync,ed email from the laptop befor i left in the morning a email i need to repley i cant, i wish i could read the email then tell it to reply / send via the proper pop account on my Exec not the sync account
Do you all have this problem
Thanks
John
I prolly dont understand the problem fully, because I think it has a simple answer. On your PPC dont sync the mail from outlook through activesync but set up a new (p-outlook) pop3 account with the parameters from the pop3 outlook account (minus the smtp-server offcourse, this should be the smtp of your phone operator). I have this setup and can send/recieve mail on my MDA Pro. When I get home I recieve all mail from that day on my pc, storing it on my pc. At the next send/recieve on my MDA Pro, all the mail collected by the pc will dissapear (on the MDA Pro) and new mail will arrive. If you want you can sync the outlook mail with your PPC but it will function as a old-mail-database next to your p-outlook pop3 account.
what I did was:
1. I Created a new mail account - POP3 - and configured it to be read just in O2 exec.
2. I configured my mail account to forward all mail to the mail account I created for the PDA, and also keep messages in my mail account, so I can read them in my PC as well.
3. I dont SYNC mails, just check them by using WIFI/GPRS/3G.
This is not very "polite" but works for me. anohter solution, IMAP, another, REAL MAIL from Vodafone.

Sync mail accounts and Outlook account?

I've not seen this one answered before, so hopefully someone knows now...
You can set up POP3 mail accounts on your phone, so you can download e-mail on the go. You can also sync the mail on your computer's Outlook onto your phone. But can you do both?
Is it possible to read the mail from your POP3 on your computer, via Outlook, sync it to your phone, then when you're away from your computer, download and read your new mail on your phone, then when you get back to your computer, have that e-mail that you downloaded sync'ed back to Outlook on your computer?
Very interesting question. As far as I'm aware it can only go one way. You can sync (download) to your phone, but I don't believe it's possible to sync in reverse (have mail sync from your phone to your pc). But just out of curiosity, why would you want to? As long as your "Leave copy on server" option is checked in outlook, your mail will always be on your email account's server until you delete it, so that should negate you having to sync mail back to your pc. Unless when you are downloading mail directly to your phone while you are away from home there is no copy left on the email server, which is definitely a possibility. If that is happening, I would contact the cellular service provider to see if there is a way to view basically a copy on your phone while leaving a copy intact on your email server.
Hope this helps.
Been thinking about the same question recently. And i can see the reason for wanting to reverse sync.
Say i have e-mail sync'd between pc & wizard. I go out and check my mail and download 5 new messages (leaving on the server). Now i go home and my pc gets the new 5 messages. when i sync will i end up with a double copy of my e-mail on my Wizard?
i cant currently test as my PC is in pieces so i've been using my wizard for e-mail, but its not under "outlook mail" but a new account conencting directly to the pop server, can i have 1 account that will sync to outlook or pop?
Sry i dont answer anything!
you can sync outlook and a pop3 account if seperate
for instance, i sync my inbox with my outlook which works fine
i also have a new "account" in my messages area which downloads my pop mail via gprs or wifi (whichever is in access).
when you download mail from pop, it still stays on server which is good... then when you get home, you can download these on the machine
as far as i know, you cannot sync the mails back to outlook because of the way it treats the mails but i might be wrong as ive not tried it... if i remember, i will trty when i get home.
also there is limits and attachment restrictions etc so not sure how they would work.
What the poster means (At least what I like to know), is if it's possible to sync Outlook mail. Then, on the go, you want to check if there's mail. Here you have to create an account. Is it possible to have the Outlook-account of the pda have the mail checked? So only the new messages, which haven't been outlook-synced are downloaded...
Because, now, on the go, when I do a Dial-in or on a Wifi hotspot, my 'Outlook' can't download new mail. And another account (the dial-in one) starts downloading messages of 3 days (I know you can set this, but that's only half a solution...)
No way around this?
Nope.
The only two-way sync to the desktop is Outlook Exchange mail.
Hi I've been tracking this topic on many sites, and have seen no answer.
If you only have POP3 (imap and exchance are ok), you are screwed.
I have on the PPC the oulook boxes, and a seperate account (setup like the account on my PC-outlook), that works fine on Pop3 via wifi or gprs.
What any pop3 user likes to do, is sync your PPC, get out and reply, send and receive mails. This is how it works:
- read your mails, do a reply! (which is not possible, as the oulook on you PPC cant send receive)
- so you like to copy that mail to the seperate account (Which is not possible too, you cant move mails between boxes)
- so you copy the content to a new mail in the seperate account, (and add all the cc's that where in the list, ohw!) and do there a send/receive, done...
- really?... how to get your send-mail back to your outlook send items box???, so you set yourselves in bcc for all send mails (or get a program for that)
Its a pain and a waste of time (anyone who knows a better solution, tell me and dont tell me the Imap or exchance story)
I think the solution can be 2-ways:
- or a patch that makes the send/receive available for the outlook account on your PPC
- or a mailbox-copy / move function, that eases the copying between the accounts.
Anyone has these solutions?

I want to be alerted when subfolders receive mail.

My work, unfortunately, uses Groupwise and I'm gonna get no support in getting a Groupwise mobile server or anything setup, so I'm stuck with syncing local for contacts and appts and tasks. I am, however, using and IMAP access to get my emails, and this works pretty well with the default Pocket Outlook email client.
One thing missing is that I have a couple of subfolders where I have rules that automatically direct emails from like my Boss or other people into the folder so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle of other stuff. However, I'm not getting notification when new emails are pulled into those folders. If I go into my email program I can see that I have new emails there, but I get the buzz or message icon that I have new emails. Is there anyway to make it so when new messages get pulled into the subfolders that I also get notified?
Ideally I'd REALLY like to stick with the default email program as I'm also using Mobile Shell and mobile shell apparently only integrates with the default email app.
RedRamage said:
My work, unfortunately, uses Groupwise and I'm gonna get no support in getting a Groupwise mobile server or anything setup, so I'm stuck with syncing local for contacts and appts and tasks. I am, however, using and IMAP access to get my emails, and this works pretty well with the default Pocket Outlook email client.
One thing missing is that I have a couple of subfolders where I have rules that automatically direct emails from like my Boss or other people into the folder so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle of other stuff. However, I'm not getting notification when new emails are pulled into those folders. If I go into my email program I can see that I have new emails there, but I get the buzz or message icon that I have new emails. Is there anyway to make it so when new messages get pulled into the subfolders that I also get notified?
Ideally I'd REALLY like to stick with the default email program as I'm also using Mobile Shell and mobile shell apparently only integrates with the default email app.
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I would like the same.
I have never found a fix to this issue and IIRC it is a limitation of the software.
I am using gmail so I just set up forward rules and dummy accounts. So I had account X with sub directory Y I have the email intended to Y get forwarded to account A and set A as a separate account. I dont know if this would work with mobile shell ( if it only looks at the outlook account)
tedet said:
I have never found a fix to this issue and IIRC it is a limitation of the software.
I am using gmail so I just set up forward rules and dummy accounts. So I had account X with sub directory Y I have the email intended to Y get forwarded to account A and set A as a separate account. I dont know if this would work with mobile shell ( if it only looks at the outlook account)
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It is indeed an Outlook issue. It only sends alerts on mails in the inbox. On my exchange server, the emails are redirected on the server before Outlook ever sees that they touch the inbox and thus no alert.
The only solution is some sort of third-party app, that would be nice.
If you're using Groupwise as your mail server, what is the email client you run on your workplace computer? And your workplace computer OS?
If your accessing Groupwise mail through Outlook on your work computer, your rules can be setup as client side instead of server side rules. If Groupwise behaves like a MS Exchange then your client side rules would only process when you're logged into your Outlook client. So when you're not in front of your PC, you wouldn't move your mail from your Inbox. Thus making them invisible to Pocket Outlook.
Or you could setup some special notification or delayed move rules. Again assuming you're using Outlook. Ornic InboxRules can be used to create some complex rules if you go that route. I haven't personally used it, but I used the predecessor to it called CaTrap to parse the sender, subject, and parts of the body into a another email and forward that via SMS to my phone.
If you can manage to get stuff to your Pocket Outlook Inbox, there are a few good tools that will give you advanced notification options on your phone. See this thread for details. Hope this helps to get you started.
You can see on http://www.magica.ro/pda_pocket_checkmail.php an application which solves your problem; it works together with ActiveSync and Outlook Mobile in order to alert users about unread mails in Inbox and Subfolders.
You can test it by downloading the demo version.
We published version 2.0 of CheckMail application.
New features are:
- displays messages on "Today Screen";
- audio alert when new messages are received;
- audio reminder if the new messages where not read (the interval when these verifications are made is selectable by user);
- by taping on CheckMail application, user can open Messaging application (Outlook);
- user can select in CheckMail application not to check Inbox (only subfolders).
Visit http://www.software.magicashop.ro/pda_pocket_checkmail.asp to see details and demo application.

Blackberry Vs WM Exchange mail, Multiple accounts in MS Exchange mail

I've used BBC on My HTC TP2 for over a month and then WM Exchane sync with a gmail account also.
Although BBC provides a good option for push email, but it fails to provide
1. HTML mails
2. Links don't work within emails
3. In India with Vodafone in Delhi, HTC devices cannot have more than 3 email accounts.
4. You need to have multiple APN's at least 2, One for BBC, other for routine net surf.
5. With device like HTC TP2, HD2 etc without a D pad, next/ previous mail function annoying, close current email & then click next one to open
However I find WM Pushmail exchange better.
1. HTML mails
2. External links do work
3. PC type email interface
4. With devices w/o Dpad also, swipe across the screen changes to next email.
5. With a bit of work around you can have multiple emails on Exchange sync, with gmail, working as push mail
Create a new gmail account. In WM Activesync (disconnect from pc), in server settings create new exchange a/c with
Server address : m.google.com
u/name: [email protected]
password: your p/w
in Server setting choose only emails to sync.
You are done with creating exchange account to sync.
Now go to Schedule in Active sync
Set peak times as : As items arrive
Set Off-peak times as : As items arrive/ as per your choice
on bottom of this page Adjust peak times option is there, in which you may customize your peak hours.
Now on your PC login in your gmail account
Enter settings of gmail account
For the email accounts with pop/ smtp options available
go to Accounts and Import, here you can add accounts to
Check mail using POP3 ption, select the desirable setting
For the email accounts without pop/ smtp options
go settings of that email, set forwarding to your this gmail id
Next step is to differentiate emails form different accounts say 5 accounts.
In gmail creat 5 labels indicating import/ forwarded email accounts name such as dinesg gm, dinesh yahoo etc.
Next in Gmail filter options create filter/ rule for each imported account
as
Matches: to[email protected])
Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label "XXXX GM", Never send it to SpamCheck
Creat rule for all 5 accounts
In Gmail activate Multiple Inbox
Set pane 0 to Search Query as the label created " XXXX GM"
and same for rest of email accounts with respective labels.
Now Gmail stores all incoming msgs from different account with different labels, treated as folders by WM Exchange servers.
On your WM PPC go to Inbox of email exchange account created.
Click Menu> Tools > Manage Folders
(Sync at least once before this step)
You'll see all created labels for various email accounts on your PC in gmail account as separate folders in Manage Folder option. Check all the folders you want to sync
And VOILA you have multiple emails synced as PUSH mails to your WM device with any special Blackberry Connect service, no PINS etc.
Additionally it works on Normal GPRS/ EDGE connection delivering HTML emails
Any people say Windows Mobile or Phone now-a-days are waste of money. No they are the most customizable piece of design available.
Enjoy
BB Connect on HTC TP2 WM 6.1 vs. 6.5
Hi, just a quick question
I have managed to get BB connect to work on a HTC TP2 running WM 6.1 using the tip from this forum to change the model ID to Raphael.
My question is if anyone has tryed this on a HTC TP2 running WM 6.5, will this work?
Regards
Niels.Boje said:
Hi, just a quick question
I have managed to get BB connect to work on a HTC TP2 running WM 6.1 using the tip from this forum to change the model ID to Raphael.
My question is if anyone has tryed this on a HTC TP2 running WM 6.5, will this work?
Regards
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yeah I had it working on WM 6.5, WM 6.5.3 latest cooked ROM's on the XDA-Dev forums
dineshh said:
yeah I had it working on WM 6.5, WM 6.5.3 latest cooked ROM's on the XDA-Dev forums
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U have a special BB internet from your provider or just the regular for the tp2? does ping work?

How to set up my email in HTC Sense

Hello everyone,
I've got myself a new databundle which allows me to be connected to the internet constantly and I want to set up my email.
Now if i connect my topaz it sync's my outlook mail automaticly, but when disconnected it doesn't get my mail, when 3G and connection on.
I want the following:
When i'm not using the PC, I want my HTC to get the incoming mail for me but once connected to the pc again, these mails should have to by synced so they appear in my PC outlook at the end.
I don't know how it works in example, if I get a mail with alot of images or attachements, does the HTC download them? Or does it leave those messages on the server? I cannot lose them.
Or do I have to setup my HTC to leave a copy on the server so my outlook downloads the new messages again for a second time? (In that way only the mails that arrive on the go appear in my HTC and I can delete them without worries) - but is that even possible?
I'm really bad at understanding this.
Hi,
have my Touch Pro2 set up like follows:
- imap connection to get all emails on the run. Means originals will be kept in your inbox.
- Sync connection to outlook with individual settings for what has to be synced. (can be set easily in the windows sync manager)
My Outlook is set up with a pop3 connection and finally collects the messages from the ISP-inbox to my local disc.
In that way I am always up to date but means a periodical syncing...
That seems what i need!
How can I setup the imap connection? I don't need all my mail on the HTC, i only want to store on my PC, just the new one's i like to read on the road when i'm gone, automatically being downloaded on my PC too when i'm on it again.
However, if I do sync my email with outlook, will the imap email and the synced outlook email be together in one folder or be seperated? Will there be doubles?
Thanks!
It seems that my ISP doesn't support IMAP. How can i set an option 'leave a copy of message on server' with my HTC and POP account?
well actually when I'm on the go, I recieve all my mails via the imap connection. Imap means, that you download the email every time, when you want to read it on you HTC as long as the mail is not collected by your outlook. When you collect your emails via otlook to your local PC-disc, the mails will not be any more available via the imap connection on your phone after manual or automatic "updating".
In my HTC I have three folders set up. 1 folder is my PC outlook, the other two my email-accounts (IMAP). After having collected all my mails by outlook, I have to proceed a sync between PC and HTC and all my local stored Emails are on my HTC. Set up what and how e.g. will be done via the Mobile sync software from Microsoft.
Btw.: check your mail provider again (FAQ or else). Cannot imagine, that any mail-provider does not offer any IMAP function. Just had it years before with my dadys mail accounts. there was e.g no POP3 solution available but IMAP4...
Greets

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