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I don't know.. ever since I got my brand new O2 Exec I've been getting less and less productive in work. The machine is indeed cool, but only when it works. I'm early adapter but it's been for the past month or so that I'm working for the machine instead of the machine working for me.
Memory leaks are out of this world. Memory is not freed up many times and I end up easily with 3mb of free ram even if no program is on. The battery life is terrible (to say the least) compared to my good old PDA2K (even with it's over 1yrs old battery! it blasts the Exec memory miles away)
Lately, the amount of lockups I am getting is simply unbearable. machine freezes.. sometimes the left soft button's caption (i.e "phone") graphics is seen like a small white box or something(as if all the letter go over each other) and then machine freezes. Something an alert comes up and then machine freezes. I can't trust the machine for business use, for games yes, but not for business.
Please note I don't have many programs running at all, no wisbar or cosmetic stuff like that., no SPB Plus and stuff like that. Just PocketInformant, PocketBreeze, phoneAlarm all of which are must have for me as well as some utils i relay on. I am wondering maybe my ROM is outdated, but I didn't see an update from O2 yet (I don't want to install NO_ID tool and flush other roms than OS own due to warrenty issues)
I have OS2 Exec with following ver:
ROM version: 1.13.82 WWE
ROM date: 11/30/05
Radio version: 1.04.02
Protocol version: 42.37.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.188 WWE
Is there any Official update from O2 to any of these ?
Help is very much appreciated. That's before a 10kg hammer is blaster over the machine in an act of anger.. lol
MOBILER
Here are my suggestions:
1st Upgrade to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. It is definitely faster than the shipped ROM from O2 and highly stable.
ROM version: 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date: 02/20/06
Radio version: 1.09.00
Protocol version: 42.42.P8
ExtROM version: Delete and install only what you need.
2nd I use Oxios Memory which has 2 useful applications in it. Oxios Close apps and Oxios Hibernate. I learned about this here in one of the forums. It basically free up a substantial amount of unused memory. Here is a link: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
As far as battery is concerned. I don't have a problem with mine. I keep it plugged in every night to charge playing a lecture DVD while I sleep.
So far O2 has not released an update yet. The last official ROM they released, I believe you are already using it. Let us hope when they do release something it would have the complete Windows Mobile Update support for BT headsets and Push email.
cktlcmd said:
Here are my suggestions:
1st Upgrade to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. It is definitely faster than the shipped ROM from O2 and highly stable.
ROM version: 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date: 02/20/06
Radio version: 1.09.00
Protocol version: 42.42.P8
ExtROM version: Delete and install only what you need.
2nd I use Oxios Memory which has 2 useful applications in it. Oxios Close apps and Oxios Hibernate. I learned about this here in one of the forums. It basically free up a substantial amount of unused memory. Here is a link: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
As far as battery is concerned. I don't have a problem with mine. I keep it plugged in every night to charge playing a lecture DVD while I sleep.
So far O2 has not released an update yet. The last official ROM they released, I believe you are already using it. Let us hope when they do release something it would have the complete Windows Mobile Update support for BT headsets and Push email.
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Thanks man, I highly appreciate your detailed helpful response, but two issues :
1) As I said, I do not want to install the i-mate JJ ROM over the O2 one due to warrenty issues. So I think I would prefer to wait for the official O2 release thought I am starting to loose patience..
2) I also use the MagicButton app on my Exec. It seems very efficient at closing programs and switching tasks with minimal memory footprint. I'll look into the program you mentioned, but I doubt that's the problem. My machine has memory leaks because even when programs are all closed after several hours of use I can get down to 3mb free RAM.
Regards
MOBILER
Do you use the brilliant SBSH Ilauncher as this has very bad memory leaks being looked into at the moment
@mobiler,
we must have twins! I have mentioned similar problems with my Exec to those you discovered and when I reported them here people were unhappy and accused me of not knowing how to use a Exec properly!
You may want to look at the following:
1. Powersave does reduce battery drain but you may a slight delay to being alterted to incoming calls
2. Reformat your SD card if you use data files (eg music, ebooks etc) a lot. I found that MS Reader and Windows Media player were not happy with the use of Powersave - often I would get a systems crash after restarting the device. But after a reformat of the SD card the device was much more stable
3. You can get good quality spare batteries now for the Universal from www.mobilefun.co.uk
I had a few issues with PhoneAlarm, nice piece of software does exactly what I wanted as well, apart from I had some compatability issues.
Slowed the phone down alot and if my memory serves me correctly ( I have a few too many memory leaks of my own going on ) made the phone freeze a couple of times.
Tried the trial version of Pocket Informant ( had it as standard on an IPAQ HX4700 and quite liked it ) but that caused me a few problems.
I now keep things simple, using PocketZenPhone for switching profiles ( very nice and simple solution ). Use the O2 web site to keep track of number of txts sent and phone call allowance.
SPBGPRS monitor for the obvious monitoring of GPRS usage.
Using the standard contacts and calender ( does me ok but not as flexible )
And I have just started messing about with Wisbar, No problems as off yet.
Personally I have found all problems with the phone are linked to software incompatabilities.
I am still in warrenty with O2 but have updated to the latest ROM and radio and if for any reason it has to go back I will try and flash back but my way of thinking is that I should be allowed to change to any ROM image I want in the same way as load any software I want.
Dont know if that is of any help at all, just my views on trying the same software. Regardless of how good they are, they caused problems for me so now I dont use them and everything seems to be running ok.
I know this is anachistic but I am also annoyed by the occasional reboot and have discovered (shock horror) that having as few TSRs running (i.e. none) as possible much reduces this. I used to run magic button and I am convinced that this caused the occasional lockup. These days I only have vbar (2.2) installed and run it at times of need (i.e. I don't run it all the time) as well as using the memory item in the settings to kill programs.
Running the virgin corporate install o2 ROM with no TSRs. Using PIE and Netfront, and the built in outlook, together with a number of games, has meant that my xda is quite reliable. I am hoping that my 'once every 2-3 days reboot' will be gone once the new xda rom comes out :shock:
I can also recommend memmaid to occasionally clear our broken registry settings.
WM5 has been a painfull experience for the PDA manufacturers. If you think we are having a bad time you should read the stuff about the dell axim x50 upgrade on aximsite. I am hoping that WM5.1 will be a free install for universal users as this will make the os more robust.
On an optimistic note the chipset employed by the universal is well used and very reliable in many applications, the construction is robust, so IMHO it all comes down to software/firmware which we hope will improve.
I suppose that is what I was getting at.
Keep it simple.
Whether it is a stability problem with WM5 or just the third party software solutions I dont know.
But when I keep it simple, it works and works well.
I never mentioned battery life earlier, this weekend I went away with a full charge, granted I took another smaller phone with me but I did use it quite heavily ( playing Bejewelled, surfing the net and sending MMS ) and it was always on .
This morning it was on about 40% charged. Not too bad I thought compared to previous Windows Mobile phones I have had.
I use memmaid as well to do a bit of house keeping.
I was using spbPocketPlus mainly for its Task Handling, but thought I would give WisBar a shot. Having a proper close option to hand is very handy and should be included as a standard option in any version of Windows Mobile.
If I am not using a program I want it to be shut down properly. Like using a PC I only have the programs running that I am using.
FWIW, I am new to this device, but not to PPC, so I am familiar with minimize/close distinction. My orange SPV M5000 loses about .3MB per program invocation. I shut down programs using either the program's own Exit function (where it exists) or the Memory tab in the settings area. But the memory is slowly eroded. The worst culprit is Activesync to my laptop, that consumes around 5MB that never comes back. After a soft reset there is about 23MB free, this quickly drops to around 18, then steadily drops. Something in the OS is not releasing memory. I have to soft reset to get the memory back (which takes about 3 minutes).
I suppose that is what I was getting at.
Keep it simple.
Whether it is a stability problem with WM5 or just the third party software solutions I dont know.
But when I keep it simple, it works and works well.
I never mentioned battery life earlier, this weekend I went away with a full charge, granted I took another smaller phone with me but I did use it quite heavily ( playing Bejewelled, surfing the net and sending MMS ) and it was always on .
This morning it was on about 40% charged. Not too bad I thought compared to previous Windows Mobile phones I have had.
I use memmaid as well to do a bit of house keeping.
I was using spbPocketPlus mainly for its Task Handling, but thought I would give WisBar a shot. Having a proper close option to hand is very handy and should be included as a standard option in any version of Windows Mobile.
If I am not using a program I want it to be shut down properly. Like using a PC I only have the programs running that I am using.
Have you tried using the Exec in Corporate mode? It works fine for me
@ChristopherTD, I setup a dummy Activesync server and then set Activesync to manual and I have found this make my Exec more stable - perhaps it is because it does not lose as much RAM as before.
It is surprising that after 6/9 months of WM5 availability that we are still having instability problems with major/popular WM5 apps. I only use GSPMagic, Agenda Fusion, MS Reader and Opera. Only GSPMagic and AgendaFusion have been trouble-free.
WM5 was intended for programs to keep running. I know we like to hack our machines to death + sometimes the memory gets too full and you have to kill stuff. But sometimes if you keep MS stuff running, and don't kill it all the time with something like magic button, you find the system runs better.
I have activesync, contacts, outlook and PIE open all the time. I used to kill activesync all the time and I think this caused problems.
Normally my games have proper exit buttons, together with pRSSReader (totally excellent program). For the MS built in programs I tend to leave them running as the OS was designed for this.
Wow I think its pretty clear I ended up with a good unit afterall, either that or o2 really really messed up with your ROMS.
I have to charge my battery every night but thats to be expected with the usage I have. And im running Wisbar Lite, PhoneAlarm, PocketBreeze, and Wisbar Advance Desktop, all no worries, the only time I notice a distinct loss of memory is after player Warring Nations.
I feel for you guys, I think your summing it up that your working on your device as opposed to it working for you says it all.
Thanks for all the responses. You're all great guys!
Please see my responses below to all suggestions:
Darren_Bridgeland said:
Do you use the brilliant SBSH Ilauncher as this has very bad memory leaks being looked into at the moment
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Thanks, but no. I don't use SBSH Ilauncher. I use MagicButton which has a minimum memory footprint
jah said:
@mobiler,
we must have twins! I have mentioned similar problems with my Exec to those you discovered and when I reported them here people were unhappy and accused me of not knowing how to use a Exec properly!
You may want to look at the following:
1. Powersave does reduce battery drain but you may a slight delay to being alterted to incoming calls
2. Reformat your SD card if you use data files (eg music, ebooks etc) a lot. I found that MS Reader and Windows Media player were not happy with the use of Powersave - often I would get a systems crash after restarting the device. But after a reformat of the SD card the device was much more stable
3. You can get good quality spare batteries now for the Universal from www.mobilefun.co.uk
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Thanks, I felt I was the only one having problems Anyway:
1) I am always in powersave, still loosing battery power.
2) I just purchased a new SD card yesterday because I thought that may have caused the problems, but it's not it.. same problems.
3) I'll look into spare batteries, thanks for the link
ninja12innotts said:
I had a few issues with PhoneAlarm, nice piece of software does exactly what I wanted as well, apart from I had some compatability issues.
Slowed the phone down alot and if my memory serves me correctly ( I have a few too many memory leaks of my own going on ) made the phone freeze a couple of times.
Tried the trial version of Pocket Informant ( had it as standard on an IPAQ HX4700 and quite liked it ) but that caused me a few problems.
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I appreciate the reply.
1) I've purchased and used phoneAlarm for about a year straight with my PDA2K and it never failed me any problems. I consider it a must have, and since it ran quite smoothly on my PDA2k I don't see why it should cause the Exec these issues. Further, I did remove it and still exeprienced the same issues, so that's not the problem either.
2) I've used PocketInfromant for 1.5 years now and no problem on my old PDA2K.
colonel said:
I know this is anachistic but I am also annoyed by the occasional reboot and have discovered (shock horror) that having as few TSRs running (i.e. none) as possible much reduces this. I used to run magic button and I am convinced that this caused the occasional lockup. These days I only have vbar (2.2) installed and run it at times of need (i.e. I don't run it all the time) as well as using the memory item in the settings to kill programs.
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Thanks for the reply, I've been using MagicButton for almost as long as I can remember and it never failed me. It worked superb on my PDA2K. Further, I tried removing it for a few days to check how things would work without it. Same lockups, same memory leaks, same mediocre performance, unfortunately (or fortunately) this isn't the problem either.
weasel said:
Have you tried using the Exec in Corporate mode? It works fine for me
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Sure I actually never ran my Exec in any other mode than the Corporate mode, so I never even experienced the other modes.
jah said:
@ChristopherTD, I setup a dummy Activesync server and then set Activesync to manual and I have found this make my Exec more stable - perhaps it is because it does not lose as much RAM as before.
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Pitty, that's not the issue with my machine as I already did that trick 2 weeks ago.
I just ran memaid to see what running processes do I have and I see to be having the following ones. Note that I have no running programs in the background and no today plugins enabled whasoever, just VoiceCommand I guess is working in the background but that's it. It seems to me that the WM5 core doesn't freeup memory.
Here's what memaid reports
gwes.exe 5.26MB
device.exe 2.83MB
filesys.exe 2.41MB
cprog.exe 2.29MB
VoiceCmd.exe 1.81MB
shell32.exe 1.51MB
(smaller processes below
tmail.exe 275.57KB
services.exe 159.81KB
connmgr.exe 115.81KB
MemMaid.exe 27.90KB
psShutXP.exe 11.90KB
srvtrust.exe 7.90KB
Nk.exe 0 bytes
the most memory you can clear is about 26-29mbytes. The rest of the running processes need to be there. There is a good thread somewhere on what each process does, will post it if I come across it again.
29mb is disappointing considering there is 64mbyte memory, but thats the way WM5 works.
rgds
I've got a O2 XDA ii (himalaya) and im running wm2005 2.01.64
After a soft reset I have 31.x MB or RAM left, even if I dont run a single program or make a single phone call within say 6hours my RAM is at 21-24MB. This has nothing to do with not correctly closing programs but either a wm2005 leak or in my case a lot of the problem is being pointed at SBSH Ilauncher.
Well here is a comparison just done a soft reset started memaid and my results are in brackets after yours for the ones in common running :-
gwes.exe 5.26MB ( 4.6 MB )
device.exe 2.83MB ( 1.46 MB )
filesys.exe 2.41MB (1.82 MB )
cprog.exe 2.29MB ( 1.46 MB )
VoiceCmd.exe 1.81MB
shell32.exe 1.51MB ( 1.21 MB )
(smaller processes below
tmail.exe 275.57KB
services.exe 159.81KB ( 315.76 kb )
connmgr.exe 115.81KB ( 115.81 kb )
MemMaid.exe 27.90KB (23.0 kb )
psShutXP.exe 11.90KB
srvtrust.exe 7.90KB (7.9 kb )
Nk.exe 0 bytes ( 0kb )
also I have :-
Wisbaradv2.exe 787.71 kb
sddaemon.exe 67.9 kb
Pimhelper.exe 11.9 kb
Poutlook,exe 3.9 kb
( i have Wisbar, SPBdiary and pocketzenphone open )
going to have a look later tonight to see if anything changes.
ROM Ver. 1.30.76
Radio 1.09.00
ExtRom ver 1.30.164
I had similar problems when I first bought my O2 exec (on Ebay).
I downloaded the latest update from O2 website and re-flash the phone. I used Corporate install. So far it has been solid and I am even using the phone with Goodlink without a problem.
About the same time I bought the phone, I bought a 2G SD card (sandisk) , when I got the card I insalled a few software on this card (TCMP and Total Commander). Everytime I ran those applications, I can see that the phone crawls like a snail and worse it hangs. It even take a long time for me to transfer files from my laptop to the SD card even when I used a SD Card reader.
I replaced the SD card with a 2G MMC+ (Kingston) and I install the same apps. My phone is working as it should be, I can say that I didnt experience any hanging at all and it was never slow as well. I can even upload a ripped DVD movie on the phone faster compared to when I used the SD card. Right now I have one full season of Alias in my MMC+ card.
I have the phone setup to turnoff after a period of time (3 minutes) when there is no activity as opposed to others that they wanted to have the settings uncheck Start>Settings>Power. I also make sure that the backlight is set to a minimun when on battery and I uncheck the part where the phone will not recieve all incoming beam.
So far, my phone has been stable and battery lasts for 3 days.
From personal experience I found wisbar caused issues with the phone not ringing on an incoming call. It would ring for the first call after a soft reset and then stop for any further calls...
The other major issue which could cause delays and slowness is installing to the sd card any apps which ought to be installed to ram. ie: today plugins etc.
When I first got my TP2 the battery life was great. Then I started adding tons of applications and tweaks and then suddenly one day the battery started to go crazy, it would drain in under 4 hours, with absolutely nothing running.
I started trying to track down the culprit. One thing I noticed right away is that my data connection would come on randomly. I'd shut it down, then a little while later is was on again. I turned off all the automatic updates I could think if (email, weather, stock, Windows update). With data, BT, wifi all turned off, screen off, nothing running, the battery would get hot and every minute would lose a few more percent. The phone was at this point basically useless. Because task manager showed nothing running I figured the battery had gone bad, or horrors, some fault maybe in the TP2. I took it to TMobile and got a replacement.
On my new phone, battery life seemed OK again. So, I did my Resco restore but it didn't work because I had password protection on the phone when I did the backup (not the TMobile password, but the one before that you get during boot up), so on restore it wouldn't let me into the phone saying the password was invalid (apparently something I should have known. grrr, bad Resco!).
So, I manually reinstalled everything again, not thinking to do it one piece at a time because I thought my battery troubles were over. I was wrong. Once it was all loaded up again, the exact same battery sucking began, and the data connection coming on again.
One thing I had noticed is that if I turned off TF3D I could see the icon for ESET virus protection running (it doesn't show in task manager). I knew I'd installed it, but because the TouchFlo screen hid the icon I'd forgotten about it. So, I went to that and clicked 'update' wondering if it was automatically checking for updates and so accessing the internet. But 'update' just gave an error message. So I figured the anti-virus wasn't going to be much use to me until updates were working, so uninstalled the application. BAM! (c) Emeril, battery problems ended!
I did a little googling and saw a couple of other references to ESET and battery drain on other phones, so I think that's been the problem. I don't know if the problem was the software itself draining the battery in its normal state, or if it was maybe constantly trying to make an internet connection to check for updates (but because that feature wasn't working it just kept trying).
I'd like to point out that I am in no way maligning ESET, it's totally my fault: 1) they do not yet claim compatibility for the TP2 ( http://www.eset.com/products/mobileantivirus.php ), and 2) I picked up the .cab from a link from one of the phone forums (not sure where or how any more, I have loaded up so much stuff), not from the ESET web site, so I could well have an older or bad version. I thought the software was freeware, but looking on the site I see it's just a free 30 day trial, so it's quite possible I had a cracked version. Their official version may well work with no problems.
But I did want to post this warning in case anyone else runs into battery drain issues.
Hi Iam an official reseller for the Eset antivirus. Just installed a version on my phone, will report back if drains my battery. How quick did it drain. If any probs i will report back to eset, to get sorted. Could just be the patched version. Funny enough the very firts pc version i got was a pirated version. Liked it so much much i thought sod it and paid for it.
Let me know if you wish to purchase it I can do a bit of a forum discount for you. same goes for pc version.
Hi, thanks for helping to try to get this resolved. The software ran very fast and I think could become a valuable addition once the WM6 viruses become more prominent.
The drain was *rapid* I'd say from 100 to 0 in about 3 hours, so if you do have the same problem, you should know right away. Also, the battery got warm to extremely warm, I might even say hot to the point that it was getting uncomfortable to hold. That certainly leads me to believe there were possibly two problems. One being that the software was for some reason maybe running aggressively in the background. The other that it appears to have been trying to connect to the internet every so often. I'm not sure exactly how often, it seemed somewhat random, but I'd say at least every 15 minutes (I would keep turning off the data connection whenever I saw it running). So I don't know if these are one and the same problem (that the software was trying to update and that was the code that was going out of control). Now that I have the phone working well again, I can have the data on constantly without anywhere near the drain I was experiencing, so the data alone was probably only a minor part of the issue.
When I tried to 'update' I got an error (I can't remember what it said). Is this still the case with the current version? If not then I can assume I have an old version and maybe the battery issue is gone now.
If you like I'd be willing to dl the 30 day trial and see what the latest version does.
Several hours later no battery drain. The software should only update itself 1 a week by default and at most every 3 days if set. Download the trial give a whirl. PM me if you want to buy and I can get a cuople of quid off, same goes for pc based one. This is extended to anyone else aslo.
Don't use any antivirus program on your phone. I've tried several antivirus trials on several htc phones (s620, s710, touch pro) and they all showed extreme battery drain. Since then I've stood clear of any antivirus program on my phone.
Well nearly 24hrs later and no significant bettery drain. I even ran a couple of scans. There is no reason why an antivirus should drain a battery, otherwise no one would have them on laprops either. It was probably down to the pirated version you had.
Let me know if you have any probs.
I never used a pirated one, I only used trials (that's why I tried so many ).
Maybe it's a different story these days, might have to try one again some time...
Hi,
My battery is getting very low very quickly when using cooked ROM'S. I've cooked them via USPL. Can this be the reason ?
With HSPL I had less issues. I have to charge my phone daily, altough not using that often..
You tried different radios?
What do you mean with radios ? Different ROMs ?
Yesterday I installed the orig!inal stock one again, and battery was empty again this morning
Read the wiki about radios then check this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466274
installing the cooked rom with hspl or uspl should make no difference in battery drain. It is possible that it's the radio as stated above. It could be just a setting like constant data being turned on (or worse Push is enabled). Also, it could be the battery dying.
Also check if other options are enabled such as Beam or your Data Connection (it may be set to roam).
Charge with phone off
Try draining the battery to about 5%, Turn phone off. Charge fully.
Repeat this process 2 or 3 times.
It's worked for me before.
Thanks for all your tips guys..Can I just install the latest radio without any issues ? Is this supported by HTC ? Do I loose any guarantee when this is performed ?
krisvrancken said:
Thanks for all your tips guys..Can I just install the latest radio without any issues ? Is this supported by HTC ? Do I loose any guarantee when this is performed ?
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Yes, you can install the latest radio (1.17) with the matching rilphone version (1.14). Hopefully you should not have any issues but remember that these Radio versions are specific to regions, so it may or may not work better for you - just because you have the latest Radio version does not mean it will work better for you. When I had my HD, I upgraded to Radio 1.17 with Rilphone 1.14 (not if its already cooked into the ROM), this resulted in better reception and signal strength, better battery consumption, etc. If you do not notice any improvement after flashing to another Radio version, just flash to another and see which one works for you. By flashing your Radio version from stock, this will void your guarantee as you are changing from your stock Radio version to an updated version. This is the same when upgrading to another ROM (custom) from stock.
You can always revert back to stock ROM and Radio versions when required, so do not worry
Device and battery were send to repair center. No problems found there. Tonight charged completely, this morning only 50% left, at noon completely empty. I am now using L26HDLEOV4_NLD with radio 1.13.25.24 / 52.62.25.34U. iIt seems I cannot update radio with this ROM. I could before I uploaded this rom, but the rom overwrote the radio again. A possible reason could be the microSD card (as said by repair center) but cannot see this as a reason. Any help is appreciated !!! Thanks in advance
Run this little prog and report back what your drain is.
Give it a while and it still runs when the screen goes to sleep.
My results show a drain of minus 31mA when sleeping.
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Look at taskbar
krisvrancken said:
Device and battery were send to repair center. No problems found there. Tonight charged completely, this morning only 50% left, at noon completely empty. I am now using L26HDLEOV4_NLD with radio 1.13.25.24 / 52.62.25.34U. iIt seems I cannot update radio with this ROM. I could before I uploaded this rom, but the rom overwrote the radio again. A possible reason could be the microSD card (as said by repair center) but cannot see this as a reason. Any help is appreciated !!! Thanks in advance
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I had this type of problem (almost similar).Battery drained drastically (more than 60% in less than 5 hours)....I'm listing down what i did...let me know if this helps.
I had this problem mainly when i
(1) Installed 6.5 roms,
(2) changed my geographic location
(3) changed my simcard.
I'm stating them because bcoz i did these things simultaneously.
bcoz of extensive battery drain,I even bought a new battery and tested my old one with a friend in HTC service center (my old battery worked well with his HD).but my new battery behaved same as old, in my handset.
then i tried "one -at-a-time" approach.
I switched back to 6.1 roms....no change
i couldn't shift back to my old geographic location (so i set it as least)
I swapped the sim card of another friend and checked with intial charge of 60% for the whole night...guess what?...it worked....
whenever you subscribe for new service better get to know if your provider has better coverage in your locality..
after installing sim card..just observe the letter which appears to right of signal bar on task bar....if the letter (in my case it is "E") appears inside a checkered box...it means your phone (i mean battery is dying to get hold of signal) will drain faster than you expect even without being touched!!!
from my experience...signal strength/coverage plays equally important role as any other parameter...now i'm using another sim card from same service provider but plan is different...my phone now behaves as good as it was
excuse my tedious essay...but i think cost of HD justifies this
P.S:This is an outcome my own experience
Let me know if this helps
My battery test was saying -134Ma in enlightened screen mode, -68Ma in dark screen mode and -32Ma in sleep mode...
Hi,
I always have an E in my start menu task bar... so this is not good :-(
I tried 2 batteries and already received a new HTC device.
I did not have issues with battery with previous device.
So or the motherboard or the SIM card can be issue. I also read about SD card with can drain attery ?
Your battery drain looks fine.
I would look at the possibility that the device is not charging the battery fully.
It indicates 100% when it is in fact only part charged.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641742
I would ask the service people to look at this.
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Andrew
bigdish said:
Your battery drain looks fine.
I would look at the possibility that the device is not charging the battery fully.
It indicates 100% when it is in fact only part charged.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641742
I would ask the service people to look at this.
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I agree with Andrew. Did you try what I suggested earlier? This method is supposed to reset the battery ie. make the phone charge it to 100% rather than 40 -50-60 etc. It worked for me and I was going nuts with the same problem.
Also make sure you have wifi set to turn off when you go into sleep mode.
Sammy
When my battery is fully charged to 100% it shows green so I assume it is also a 100% charge, not ?
Making me nuts also.
This afternoon completely charged after fully drained, now again 66% :-(
Last night I disabled phone mode (so went to flight mode) and battery only got from 56% to 53% so it has something to do with polling the network constantly I guess ?
Really dumb question.
If I have updated my ROM from Stock to Miri's ROM WM 6.5 Rev 21.
Is it possible to update the Radio without messing with the ROM or is it like both have to be installed at the same time.
If I can change my Radio without messing with ROM, how do I do that?
Many Thanks.
batt low
i had the same problem and found out that it was because i had a program running that constantly searches for a 3g data signal.... when you look in Wireless controls in settings tab does the data connection tab keep turning on and off???????????
i had to delete the prob from win startup and it wasnt in the remove prog under settings. hope this helps a bit. roaddogg!
Before I get flamed I have read all the comments I can find on WP7 Rom battery tricks i.e. camera record after reboot trick, leaving 3g on etc. All Im asking is if other HD2 users are experiencing as little as 6-7 hours of battery life on WP7 roms, iv'e tried xbmod, HD20 and YukiXDA and have tried this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978101.
Phone is hardly used, no phone calls just settings and odd text message and only wifi on when using phone.
I'm gutted because I love WP7, any advice appreciated and am not trying to "Noob" up the forums I just wanted to start a dialogue with other WP7 Rom users.
Thx
Nope, that´s not normal.
There are several possible reasons for your problem. MAGLDR, Radio ROM and SPL versions are crucial. Bad flashing can happen all the time. Plus, an "incompatible" SD card can bring a hell lot of issues, too, as well as an "old" SIM card.
Anyway - I can say that under WP7, I could not reach the same battery lifetime like under WinMo 6.5 - you can more compare to Android (NAND versions). Maximum 2 days at really low usage (week-ends), 1 day with "normal" workload. I could easily double that time under WinMo 6.5.
The HD2 likes battery like i like beer.....as much as possible in the shortest amount of time.
My phone and wifes phone (exact same phone + ROM) work for about 7 hours. ive tried many different tricks, radios, ROMs and no luck. luckily at home and work i have access to charging points, so not so much of a problem. just anooying when we go travelling!
Try latest YukiXDA Rom with 3G on. My phone lasted a day and night ( few calls, texts, games (including installing) Facebook etc. Much improved.
i'm using yuki's latest and mines dead in about 7 hours also (without even using it cos i have a company phone) but some have reported 2 days , i've got the battery tool and my current is usually around -250 sometimes higher before and after camera trick but some have reported 2ma ,, i'm sure i'm using the bat tool wrong lol . gigahurtz whats your current
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With Nodo my LG has battery life little more than 24h, even when heavy used for gaming, email or internet. Mango version used almost exactly same, has battery life about half of it, and after 16h is totally dead. Turning on batery life saving in Mango does not change anything. I have open-marked phone, and to download mango I had to full flash old european firmware and upgrade to Mango. Any comments or solutions?
I noticed the same, battery drain is going down much faster then before.
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With Nodo my LG has battery life little more than 24h, even when heavy used for gaming, email or internet. Mango version used almost exactly same, has battery life about half of it, and after 16h is totally dead. Turning on batery life saving in Mango does not change anything. I have open-marked phone, and to download mango I had to full flash old european firmware and upgrade to Mango. Any comments or solutions?
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The same happens on my LG
Double wattusage
This is common, I too have experienced this.
I am trying to research the issue.
I got worse batterylife after the pre-update for Mango, where they altered the speech quality and touch sensitivity on the phone. I am assuming this is related to the radio in the phone, so I've ordered a new SIM card to rule out my dated SIM card for the phone.
If you search twitter for mango and battery, you will see that 50% of posts quote better batterylife with mango, so I'm assuming this is a firmware issue from LG, and not a mango issue.
Anyhow, early tests showed E900 using 1,3watts to playback a video, while the iPhone4 used 0,7...
Also the iPhone4 manages 40 hours of music playback. I'm lucky if I get 7-8, might be due to three different apps showing up in the app-switcher when playing a podcast. The music hub start screen, the podcast list and the podcast itself. Should be just one instance...
Will post back later.
Reset your phone
By factory resetting after Mango installation I went from 0 days and 12 hours standby time, to 1 day and 16 hours.
So there is something messed up in the Mango deployment that causes batterylife to be cut in half. To bad.
The same thing
So you recommend. To factory reset or reflash and than install Mango again, don't you?
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By factory resetting after Mango installation I went from 0 days and 12 hours standby time, to 1 day and 16 hours.
So there is something messed up in the Mango deployment that causes batterylife to be cut in half. To bad.
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Can anyone confirm a factory reset has resulted in increased battery life as well?
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Can anyone confirm a factory reset has resulted in increased battery life as well?
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It worked for me.
I just tried it two days ago, it seems better, but this will be the first day without having a charger handy. So, I'll post later if it actually helped.
On the bright side, setting up the phone again was a snap. Reloading the programs was the slow part, because you had to navigate from the "receant purchases" on your account to find the programs you had installed.
Not for me.
I've even reflashed from StarHub to European Open today.
Nothing changed.
I'll check tomorrow if something will change.
What is your batterytime in batterysaver when fully charged? When going to google mobile search, do you get the featurephone edition or the touch friendly for advanced phones? If you change the language for typing does it work or does you keyboard stay the same? These are all errors I had before.
I waited for my official Vodafone mango deployment, and after it was installed I 100% reset my phone in settings dialogue. No funky xda installhax0r stuff.
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What is your batterytime in batterysaver when fully charged? When going to google mobile search, do you get the featurephone edition or the touch friendly for advanced phones? If you change the language for typing does it work or does you keyboard stay the same? These are all errors I had before.
I waited for my official Vodafone mango deployment, and after it was installed I 100% reset my phone in settings dialogue. No funky xda installhax0r stuff.
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I have none of the other issues you descirbed... just the battery life issue. If either changing push email etc doesn't make things better, or I see a few more people saying that a reset helped them, I may go the reset route. Hopefully that doesn't need to happen... seeing as I chose WP7 and not Android so that I could avoid issues like this.
I started thread at MS Q&A
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-90c3-405e-8073-18e12bfab008?tm=1318370390863
After a factory reset it seems that my battery drain is back to normal. So, for me it worked
Is there a big difference after the factory reset? Does it worth to try?
I am facing this battery drain issue too. Battery falls down by 14% overnight in standby without data connection or WiFi. Factory reset didn't solve the problem. Any solution?
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I had big battery drain problems after mango. now it seems to be more stable. anyways, I think it might have been some kind of program, running under nodo intructions, like facebook, maybe some compatibility issues, I dont know, I only know that after updating all the programs I have to the oficial mango version, battery is doing better. not a lot better, still crap, but better than before!
The factory reset thingy worked for me as well , now I got about 2 days of battery instead of a half day
I have about a week if i use it as a phone only and one day if i use everything.
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The factory reset thingy worked for me as well , now I got about 2 days of battery instead of a half day
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Two days of battery keeping 3G data connection ON all the time? Or only when needed?