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Bluetooth car kit and voice dialling question

Does anyone here use their MS Mobile 2003 “smart” phone with a Bluetooth car kit?
I wonder if you can help me…
With my old Nokia phone, it used to activate the connection to the car kit when I turned on the engine.
However, on the MDA Compact, I have to go to Bluetooth, select the car kit, and select “Set as Hands-free” every time I get into the car, witch is rather annoying.
Does anyone know how to make this automatic? Is there a third party utility perhaps that would monitor the availability of the car kit every so often, and connect to it automatically when it is available?
And another question, does anyone know of a good utility for voice dialling?
I tried Microsoft Voice Command 1.5, it is alright, more or less (apart from awful recognition of spoken numbers, even if spoken by upper class English people) it does recognise the contact names, witch is all that I need - however, I cannot get it to react when I press the action button on the car kit.
I still have to take the phone out of my briefcase, and hold it in my hand, witch is illegal whilst driving.
My dream application, would be something basic, that I can train for certain contacts that I call regularly (like with my old nokia phone, which appeal glows by the minute) – as this way, thick eastern European accents do not matter ;-)
Thanks in advance for any pointers!

I have the MDA Compact Working with the CK7W form Nokia.
Works good exept the voice dailing, You can thakeand disconnect a call with the remote controle.

But do you have to manualy connect to the car kit every time you get into the car?
Once it is connected, I can accept and end calls using the action button. so that is not a problem

No just hold the center button of the remote for 2 seconds, than it will connetct again

tbouman said:
I have the MDA Compact Working with the CK7W form Nokia.
Works good exept the voice dailing, You can thakeand disconnect a call with the remote controle.
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Hold on a minute, I have the same Nokia car kit, and my Compact when connected suffers badly with reported echoes at their end, not mine.
Do you have this problem?
I was to believe that this was a common problem not resolved yet!
Mike.

I'm gonna test this tomorrow in my shop, I will place a list with phones(other than Nokia) that will work with the CK7W[/quote]

My car kit is CK-1W
I am generaly happy with it, apart from the fact that on the MDA I have to manualy connect every time I get into the car.
I used it with many different phones, and it works fine.
so I think that it is the bluetooth manager of the MDA that is to blame.
my compaq Ipaw bluetooth manager was the best!
but this one, I cannot even get the activesync to work...

For the manual connect you have 2 blame the BT manager in w2003se.
I have good results with:
Nokia CK7W:
Qtek 9090
Qtek S100
Sony Ericsson P910(I)
Sony Ericsson P700i
Samsung D500
HP6340

Are there alternative bluetooth managers?
or a reg. hack I can implement?
thanks

Hmmm, I Don't know...Anyone?

Apparently not…

I had the same problems with my mr handsfree genius car kit, and i thought it was the fault of the car kit.
Just upgrade your rom to 1.06 and all your problems will disappear most likely.
Which rom do you have?
Andre

I have an old ROM.
however, all my atempts at upgrading it failed.
my device ID is something like TMOB-005, not 001
cracked update exe file did not help, running the scripts to modify the ROM files did not help...
in the end I felt inept, and gave up ;-)

controll my universal with another ppc?

So I have a Universal and a Wizard. I prefer the Universal to use as MP3 player cause it has a normal headphone jack so i can use my Sony headphones rather than the crappy headphones that comes with the wizard. The only thing is that the universal lack of hardware buttons and its hard to reach them while in my pocket cause the universal is abit big. I've done some research before to find a "media remote control" for my universal like on the psp or minidisc. Since I coudnt fint it i bounced into that credit card sized mini bluetooth keyboard! Since the keyboard is that expensive and i dont need a BT keyboard... made me come on the idea of using the wizards keyboard and/or hardware buttons to controll my universal via BT. So my question is, is there such app to do this? I've been searching on google but only fond VNC and TSC like apps, and I couldnt find anything either on this forum. I hope someone can help me out [:

im not sure about ppc but if you pair the universal and a se k700i you can control the universal with it using the remote control app that comes with it

Get something like this:
http://www.usglobalsat.com/item.asp?itemid=98
You can control your Uni's media player and can use your custom SONY headset.
Also, there is other similar product which I like better (look for the R35):
http://www.itechdynamic.com/product.asp

Can bluetooth headset trigger auto answer?

Apologies if this is an FAQ, but I've had a quick look and drawn a blank.
I've just got my first Windows mobile phone (Vario II) and one of the things I really miss compared to my old Nokia, is that when I connect my bluetooth headset, I'd like the phone to switch to 'auto answer' and for the volume to be set to max. When I disconnect the headset, I'd like the phone to refert to a 'normal' or 'general' profile.
I require this because I use it on a motorcycle in conjunction with an intercom system, and I need the phone to auto answer after say 2 rings.
Is this possible on a smartphone?
Regards,
Glenn

Join the club mate......
I've been using the Vario2 in combination with a Nolan N-102 with the N-comm BT kit on it.....
I've been #$^&# with it for weeks now and I've made some progression...
First you need a program that allows you to select profiles like Nokia used to have...
I use PocketzenPhone but maybe there are some other(better) programs to do that.....
So then u can swith to a bike profile I've made and enable auto answer....
I've run the cab file to redirect BT sounds to my helmet in stereo (floats somewhere on this forum)
The only thing I can't do at the moment is enable Voicedial from the helmet...
If I press the button designed to start it ........f%ck all happens....
Still working on that but I'm running out of ideas....so any help would be appreciated...
Danny.

Pdanny said:
Join the club mate......
I've been using the Vario2 in combination with a Nolan N-102 with the N-comm BT kit on it.....
I've been #$^&# with it for weeks now and I've made some progression...
First you need a program that allows you to select profiles like Nokia used to have...
I use PocketzenPhone but maybe there are some other(better) programs to do that.....
So then u can swith to a bike profile I've made and enable auto answer....
I've run the cab file to redirect BT sounds to my helmet in stereo (floats somewhere on this forum)
The only thing I can't do at the moment is enable Voicedial from the helmet...
If I press the button designed to start it ........f%ck all happens....
Still working on that but I'm running out of ideas....so any help would be appreciated...
Danny.
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Hi, the reason you can't activate voice dialing from your headset might be to do with the BT Audio cab you have installed to redirect sound through your headset. If the cab you have installed is the most common one floating around then this actually disables the launch of voice dialing in favour of being able to toggle between sound in the headset and sound on the phone (pressing and holding down the call button for a few seconds on your headset normally).
If you look in the registry HKLM>software>OEM>voicecommand, if launchapenable has a value of 0 then it is disabled. You can enable it again by changing the value to 1 but this will mean that your headset button will now not work as an audio toggle feature because it will launch the voicedial software every time.
Not sure if this is the answer to your problem but it sounds like it might be, hope this helps

Am trying as we speak....thanks for the reply....see wat happens...
D.

Well.....Ive got good news and bad news....
The good news is that I can trigger voicecommand now......
The bad news is that MS voice command 1.6 is not reconizing my accent...(dutch)...
So out of 10 tries it never called the number i wanted.....
So I tried the build in SDdialer.....and that one is doing a better job....
However I can't make the sounds to stick in my helmet........
I mean...
With MSVC by pressing the button on the helmet I could redirect the sound to the helmet and get a voicecommand tone at the same time....
By symply not speaking or saying '"cancel" it would cancel the voicecommand but the sound stayed in the helmet.....
With SDdialer following the same steps as above the sounds does not stay in the helmet but goes back to the speaker......
Any ideas????
BTW is there a dutch version of MS voice command?

If you go back into the registry, in the same location as before, check the value that is in VoiceCmdDuration (This is the amount of time the voice prompt stays active for in seconds) .. the audio cab file usually sets this to 86400 (24 hrs in seconds), if yours is low eg. 10, 20, 30 etc.., set it to 86400 and that may sort out the problem.

Duration is set fort 24 hrs....already..
Funny thing is that MSVC is not cutting out and the sddialer is...
Regsetting stay the same.....
By pressing the button on helmet I just change the exe file.....
Only option is to try and get MsVC to work and get use to my voice....
D.

Hmmm booking slow process.....tryed to call with MsVC and now 2 out 2....
Ordered to play media from helmet......worked..
This is only sitting in the livingroom with helmet on.....looks absolutely silly but thats besides the point
P$ssing with rain here so hoping for better weather to go for a roadtest...
So thing needed for me to get it to work...
-MsVC 1.6
-Bluetooth stereo cab
-Regedit from the MsVC topic..
-PocketzenPhone for designing profiles.....however thinking on removing that...and see how that works.....
D.

I am glad that you are at least part way there to solving the problem
I don't have Voice Command on my phone. On the rare occasion I use voice dialling I use the standard SDdialer program but my sound diversion does not revert back to the handset like yours.
I must have changed something on it to get it working but I am afraid I don't know what because, when I was trying to get it working, I tried absolutely everything and it was quite a while ago now so I have forgotten what I did
It sounds like Voice Command is going to be okay for you though so that is good.
By the way, Phonealarm is also another good profile switching program.

Thanks for the replies guys, but I think I may have accidentally discovered my own solution.
On my T-mobile vario II, if I go to the Phone->Settings and select the 'more' tab (need to scroll along the last tab at the bottom of the screen) there is an option to 'Automatic pickup' which will auto answer a call after x number of rings.
I had always assumed this would kick-in even if no headset was present. However, I've just done some simple testing, and it looks like the auto answer only kicks-in if the phone is currently in comms with a headset (I used a bluetooth one but probably the same for the supplied 'hands free' kit).
So this functions exactly as I want it to.
Oh, and Pdanny, for background info I'm using a Nolan 101 (no bluetooth) with speakers and mic installed. These connect to my 'Starcom' intercom (via an old fasioned curly lead) which allows me to hear directions from my 'TomTom' and also take phone calls via the starcom/phone bluetooth partnership. Down side is that the wife can also talk at me .
As I never want to initiate a call while riding, this setup works just perfect for me. I don't need to remember to change the phone setup either before or after mounting the bike. As soon as the bike ignition is turned on, the intercom partners with the phone. Then if I receive a call, it auto answers and I can take the call. Once the ignition is switched off, the phone reverts to normal non-auto answer.
In my research for this issue I came across an app called 'phonealarm' (from pocketmax.net), it was the manual for this that made me try the above experiment. This looks like a neat app and I may still end up installing it as long as it does not hog the processor.
[edit]OOps sorry Nicky, just noticed you already mentioned phonealarm. I'd be interested in any comments you have about this app, good ot bad [/edit]
Once again, thanks for the replies, and I hope this thread helps someone in the future.
Regards,
Glenn

Phonealarm......give that a try thanks.....
Im also going to test with the buils in auto pick up.....
I knew it was there but i assumed that it would ALWAYS auto pick up...
It seems that that is not the case therefore making the Pocketzenphone and possibly phonealarm obsolete.....
I also get all the sounds over BT in my helmet....incl TT
Also... I don't have a wife .......sounds like a perfect world hey???
Keep you posted on the outcome of the xperiment....
Grtz
Danny

Hi knnelg, glad you managed to sort your problem. I always knew the option for autoanswer was in the settings but like you, I had assumed that it would autoanswer all calls regardless of whether a headset was connected so it is handy to know that it only applies when in headset mode.
You asked about opinions on Phonealarm, I think it is a great program. I have used it on my Vario II and my last phone, an XDA Mini S, and it is has always worked fine, no problems at all.
I really missed having phone profiles when I switched to PDA style phones so Phonealarm was one of the first 3rd party apps I ever bought and I wouldn't be without it now Also, Bruce, the developer of phonealarm, is very good at listening to users input and if enough people make a suggestion about an improvement or tweak to the program, he will implement it in future versions which is really nice.
One of the other programs Pocketmax does, Alarmtoday, is useful too.

Using your PPC as a wireless headset for PC possible??

I've been scouring google trying to look for something that works like this:
1) ALL audio from your computer is streamed to your PPC.
AND
2) You can use your PPC as a wireless mic for your computer.
In essence it'll work as a wireless voice communicator with your laptop. Is there anyway to do this? I've tried using bluetooth, but the computer software I have wouldn't allow me to use my phone as a 'headset' only to transfer files and create a DUN. So if anyone know of any computer software or PPC software that would help me achieve this, it would be greatly appreciated. It could be through BT, WiFi or Data. I just need something that works.
My purpose for this is that I like to play games, listen to music, and even voice chat (ventrilo) and I would like to be able to still hear what's going on on my computer while I'm grabbing a glass of water or taking a bio-break.
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Found a method that works, but it in very poor quality. First thing is to install Skype .18 beta onto your phone (only version that works on the Titan) and to install Skype on your computer also. You will need to create 2 accounts for both the phone Skype & PC Skype. Now configure your computer Skype to reroute all audio to go through the microphone input. Call either devices from the other device and initiate voice chat. You should be able to hear your computer from your phone, but in very low/poor quality. When you speak into the phone you can hear yourself on your computer. A headset is suggested.
This is what I found to work so far, still trying to search for a better way of doing this. I've been able to stream quality music from the computer and voice to the computer, but never both at the same time yet.
Here's link to Skype .18 beta:
http://smarthacks.com/wp-content/skype/SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab

I'd like to know if it's possible as well...for some reason my speakers arent being recognized by windows (i freaking hate MS!!) so it'd be nice to use BT to use my phone as speakers (that and so i could wander around the house)

if it support audio gateway it could work of cause
to enable it one would have to quit the game
and change pref'd device in audio settings in pc
control panel and restart the game

audio gateway would mean to go through BT. I'm sure the titan is able but its the bt software on the computer end that's crappy (got my bt adapter for $4). I'm looking for alternatives if possible.

i paid a few pretty pennies for my BT device (it wasn't overly expensive, it was a good deal at the time), and it came with a disc that had blue soleil on it. Well, it kept telling me i needed to register or somthing, but wouldnt let me. So i got rid of it. I bet B.Soleil would work though, maybe i'll dig it back up.
found all of my original documentation and disks with B.S. on it. They gave me a trial version. I paid for a usb dongle with blue tooth and B.S. gave me an eval copy. Okay, no wonder people hack/crack stuff. Idiots like that. I hope they die in a fire.

lol yea i think mine is blue soleil too, not sure if its a full copy or eval copy. all i know is its crap and won't let me do what i want.

yeah, i smashed my blue soliel disk out of anger. i tried it first, and it wouldnt let me stream music to my headset or my phone, so whatever. I dont even need that program to transfer files, i have BT drivers on my computer already.

well if you do manage to find a working BT software be sure to share ;D

Really?...
Total_Lag said:
2) You can use your PPC as a wireless mic for your computer.
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I'd made a thread about how I'd wanted to dev, or asking if anyone knew of a prog to do this. What s/w d'ya know of/recommend?

Total_Lag said:
I've been scouring google trying to look for something that works like this:
1) ALL audio from your computer is streamed to your PPC.
AND
2) You can use your PPC as a wireless mic for your computer.
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he's LOOKING for an app that does it.

I'm trying to look into a A2DP server solution, though I doubt it's possible for the PPC to 'serve' audio to the computer.

Dev request: simple 'button board'

Hello Developers,
I want to use my old magician to build into my car.
I am driving (for those who want to know) a Renault 5 GT Turbo, and building it purely for fun. I like to experiment with electronics, so injection system is used, and also a PDA with Zeitronic software to manage some data from the car.
What I want to do is be able to start the car with the PDA, or ignition the car, and other things likt boostcontrol (just on/off), lights, rev limiter, etc. All is just on-off switched.
Just being able to control six or eight Relays, via the touchscreen. Starting must be with a sort of PIN code. So is there a way to control 8 relays via usb-cable (must be charging all the time!).
And anyone an Idea or wants to put something together? If it includes some donations, willing to do so with some fun input!

Check out Arduino Board.
Not sure if you can hook it up to PDA, but might be interesting to you.
larna

Riel said:
What I want to do is be able to start the car with the PDA, or ignition the car, and other things likt boostcontrol (just on/off), lights, rev limiter, etc. All is just on-off switched.
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Wow!
This would be amazing!
PS: If you finally reach your target, let us know and share some videos!

Thanx! Well, just see it as if I got 8 ON/OFF switches on my dashboard.
I just need the program here to give an output to the USB port. So I hook up those signals to a relayboard. Those relays set the ignition, or start the engine, etc.

I don't know much, but I think you need a serial port not usb. However with some simple electronic audio filters I think it would be possible to control almost any number of relays via the audio output. You would need some software on the phone that played an audio signal whenever a button on the screen was pressed, I am thinking mortbuttons could do this. Then you would need a set of audio filters tuned to each exact frequency which would in turn switch your relays via a power transistor.
I like the sound of your idea, if you get it on the road it would mean that any PPC could be used to switch on anything. Think about the whistling key finders you can get, the same principal. Would be nice to see your progress in the future, good luck with it.
Edit: you could even do it via bluetooth this way, taking the sound from a bt headset!

Problem is, I have totally no idea of programming

Was thinking about this and had a simpler idea but only if you've got a ppc with infra red port, which if I remember correctly the Magician has. If you had all you need is some remote control software, which there is a huge choice of fully configurable stuff with learning ability something like this: http://www.pdawin.com/tvremote.html , then you just need an infra red remote control switch board like this one on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RF-Wireless-R...hash=item250271194147&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318
and you pretty much would have what you want!
Edit: Damn just noticed that one is RF not IR. But I know IR ones are available.