I got no response in the stocking up for it forum so ill try here...
Hopefully you guys are a bit more clued up...
I have switched from XDA to XDA II
On the XDA the audio out pins (3 + 4) used provide audio out all the time.
This was great for mp3 playing and sat nav instructions but no so good if you wanted to wire to stereo and use the radio mute function of the stereo.
On the XDA II the same pins now seem to only provide audio out during a call. not even the ring tone is transmitted out - it only cuts in when the call is answered.
Does anyone know of a way of making the XDA II behave like the XDA in this matter and provide all audio out all the time.
I dont mind if its a piece of software, a registry hack or a pin I need to short or anything.
I just want to be able to return to having my sat nav instructions and mp3 files play through the speakers.
I use TomTom Navigator 2...
Thanks in advance for any help...
i hade the same problem
i figured out i had to + or - something to a pin
i cant remember just now wich one
problem then was, you need a preamped mic in singal for talking cause internal mic is disabled
Where did you get your info from so i can go looking...
Did you try grounding 19 (CAR_ON#) like it says on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors ?
"When this pin is connected to ground, the internal mike and speaker are turned off, and audio input is taken from the audio input pin on the connector, for use in real car kits."
Haven't tried it myself...
Jamie
i believe that the XDA car kit does this...
but the xda behaves differently than the xda ii
the xda is audio on all the time and the xda ii is audio only during a call
Im looking into this at the mo. My idea is a cable from the XDA2 to a box, the box will have a 3.5mm socket with audio out to the car stereo (audio from phone and mp3 playback etc), 3.5mm for an external mic input. 5v power out to charge/supply the XDA2, power out and data link to garmin eTex GPS. The data side is easy to do. i just need to run the testes on the audio side.
Pete
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Im looking into this at the mo. My idea is a cable from the XDA2 to a box, the box will have a 3.5mm socket with audio out to the car stereo (audio from phone and mp3 playback etc), 3.5mm for an external mic input. 5v power out to charge/supply the XDA2, power out and data link to garmin eTex GPS. The data side is easy to do. i just need to run the testes on the audio side.
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Hi! Is your TDI the PD? Would you be able to hear something?
I just can't believe it is not described here!
XDA-Developers seem to be a very competent and sophisticated site dedicated to XDA1+2. How it is possible that description of XDA2's four-pin 2.5mm jack isn't described here (including those two buttons)?
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I just can't believe it is not described here!
XDA-Developers seem to be a very competent and sophisticated site dedicated to XDA1+2. How it is possible that description of XDA2's four-pin 2.5mm jack isn't described here (including those two buttons)?
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Because we simply haven't yet taken the litlle XDA2 thingy apart. (I have been meaning to for the longest time, but simply haven't gotten around to it.)
Just wondering if anyone is using a non genuine headset with there O2 xda II mini? While I had my genuine ones that come with the unit the audio dropped to one ear only, I tried another (non O2) set of headphones which were actually better qaulity and working fine on my other phone but had the same result.
Anyway I sent the mini and non genuine headphones across the country to O2's service centre and have just recieved an email which states "As PHF is a non genuine O2 Accesory it is most likely incompatable with XDA II Mini. Therefore we quote to replace PHF. Thank you." :shock:
I find it extremely hard to believe that any 2.5mm headphone jacked headphones would not work in the mini so was just wondering if anyone else could conform either way
Cheers all,
marto
The answer is actually rather simple!
If you look at the original O2 XDA Mini headphones (and many other originals for phones with a 2.5mm jack) then you will notice that it is a 4 contact plug: that is, there is one point of contact at its tip and three points of contact along the plug (marked out by black rings). 4 contacts by the way = microphone, two audio channels and a ground.
Most replacement ones are only 3 contact, thus they are missing the inner black ring - which is usually the right audio channel (or left... not quite sure!). But if you really must get your 3 contact earphones/converter to work in the O2, you need to have the plug only partially in the socket... pull it out a bit while playing music and you should find the sweet spot! Though note that it probably wont stay in the plug, plus since 3 contact earphones lack a microphone then you'll have to remember to unplug your earphones before making a call.
Awesome response
Now why couldn't I get a straight answer like that from the O2 Call centre or the Service centre :evil:
Cheers again,
marto
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JWhile I had my genuine ones that come with the unit the audio dropped to one ear only, I tried another (non O2) set of headphones which were actually better qaulity and working fine on my other phone but had the same result.
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Had 2 sets of genuine O2 headsets now. Same thing's happened both times. I've lost the audio in the right earphone. I've checked my hima audio jack and the solder connections are fine. It's definitely the headset that's playing up. Even went so far as to cut the headphones off at the mic portion and solder new ones down but the same thing still happens. No sound on the right.
Anyone else experienced loss of audio in one earphone after a while and if so, how the hell did you fix it?
All I can say is lucky you not in Australia trying to get something done at O2's service centre here (mpsqld)...
When I sent the unit back for the second time and included the motorola headset I was trying to use this was there reply
As PHF is a non genuine O2 Accesory it is most likely incompatable with XDA II Mini.
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:evil: :evil: most likely?????? gee what a firm response
What a joke! ended up having to ring them (following no replies from several emails) asking if they actually physically tested the unit or just blamed in on the "non genuine" headset.
The motorola headset works fine (stereo sound) with my wife's motorola phone so told them to just sent it all back!
hey i just got my wife the jamin (i got a jam) and the headset from the jamin works on the jam if that helps.
infact i prefer the jamin headset cause its a bit more heavy duty.
I've bought a 2.5 mm to 3.5mm coverter (off ebay) and use ordinary headphones, music quality is much better then on the ones bundled with the phone.
1. I've seen adapters from MiniUSB to 3.5mm. (I think one actually came with the HTC version, but not with the AT&T Tilt - although the Tilt manual insists that it's there!)
2. I've seen adapters from MiniUSB to 3.5mm with a built in mic for handsfree operation too.
3. I've seen 3.5mm bluetooth adapters so you can eliminate cables completely.
I'll be mounting my phone above my dash and my aux-in port is in my center console. As such, I'd like a wireless solution (like #3), but I'd also like hands-free operation (like #2). I know such a thing exists (I found one on eBay), but surely there's a more elegant solution out there? Not one shamelessly parading around as a iPod shuffle?
Does anyone know of a hands-free device that connects to the phone via bluetooth and has a standard 3.5mm audio out? The only one I've found is parading around like an iPod shuffle - more than a little tacky.
i have one, it does look a bit like a shuffle though... works great though and even came with a BT transmiter that you can plug into anything with a 3.5mm jack and it will stream it with A2DP ( the receiver/headset is A2DP also) all for like $35 shipped. i monted it in my motorcycle helmet so i have wireless tunes plus the call come through both speackers so its actually intelligable while riding
IMHO its worth putting up with the shuffle-esque look for the price and features
This looks good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875156001
Tritton AX Bluestream
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1. I've seen adapters from MiniUSB to 3.5mm. (I think one actually came with the HTC version, but not with the AT&T Tilt - although the Tilt manual insists that it's there!)
2. I've seen adapters from MiniUSB to 3.5mm with a built in mic for handsfree operation too.
3. I've seen 3.5mm bluetooth adapters so you can eliminate cables completely.
I'll be mounting my phone above my dash and my aux-in port is in my center console. As such, I'd like a wireless solution (like #3), but I'd also like hands-free operation (like #2). I know such a thing exists (I found one on eBay), but surely there's a more elegant solution out there? Not one shamelessly parading around as a iPod shuffle?
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Well, it is a bit more expensive, but there are headunits with integrated Bluetooth stereo and handsfree capability.
Parrot makes one (relatively expensive). I think Blaupunkt does too.
Sony has two models with built in stereo and handsfree Bluetooth integration, the MEX-BT2500 and MEX-BT5000. The 2500 is probably the least expensive solution that still has a CD player, I have it in my car and love it, although I admittedly have not even attempted to use the handsfree functionality (due to the fact that it is installed in an incredibly noisy convertible). I use the headunit for BT stereo and a Plantronics 655 for handsfree conversations.
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Well, it is a bit more expensive, but there are headunits with integrated Bluetooth stereo and handsfree capability.
Parrot makes one (relatively expensive). I think Blaupunkt does too.
Sony has two models with built in stereo and handsfree Bluetooth integration, the MEX-BT2500 and MEX-BT5000. The 2500 is probably the least expensive solution that still has a CD player, I have it in my car and love it, although I admittedly have not even attempted to use the handsfree functionality (due to the fact that it is installed in an incredibly noisy convertible). I use the headunit for BT stereo and a Plantronics 655 for handsfree conversations.
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Wow - hadn't even considered that, but thanks! Sadly, I have a Mazda3, which I really don't think would play nice with a different head unit. The stereo is just really integrated.
I guess I might have to go with the shuffle look-alike. Does anyone else own this? Can you confirm that it's decent?
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This looks good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875156001
Tritton AX Bluestream
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Cheap it ain't, but that actually looks pretty good! Does anyone own it?
According to http://www.trittonsales.com/products/TRIBH102.html, it seems that the microphone is in the actual unit (necessary, since I won't be using the included headphones but rather hooking it to my aux), and I think it has the remote controls on it.
(On another note, as someone who has zero bluetooth/headset experience, I wonder what will happen when I'm listening to my music in the car and get a phone call - will the feedback just suck if the person is coming over the speakers and the mic is picking it up?)
iTech cheaper than Tritton
iTech makes several models, like Clip Radio or Clip R35, that are similar to Tritton. They run a little cheaper but are hard to find (try eBay). Might be sold as the HTC S100. Also, check out the Motorola S705 SoundPilot, which includes an LCD screen.
If you're thinking about an installed solution, check out my detailed review of the MK6000 in the Wizard forum. Also, Motorola T605 is similar to MK6000. Not as many features but much cheaper.
Just a word of warning if you use Voice Command with A2DP: once A2DP is connected, Voice Command audio prompts no longer work via Bluetooth (commands still work, just no feedback). Apparently, I am not the only one with the problem.
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iTech makes several models, like Clip Radio or Clip R35, that are similar to Tritton. They run a little cheaper but are hard to find (try eBay). Might be sold as the HTC S100. Also, check out the Motorola S705 SoundPilot, which includes an LCD screen.
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I just want to thank everyone very much for all their help! I guess it's down to deciding between three models. So if anyone has any experience with any of these, I'd love your feedback!
Motorola S705 SoundPilot
Tritton AX Bluestream (TRI-BH102)
i.Tech Clip R35
Thanks!
I have been using 2 scenarios in my car for years now:
1. Direct connection via audio plug, mic in the middle, then AUX to car stereo.
2. Bluetooth connection using the itech R35 with a short cable connected to the AUX car stereo.
Though I'm using Prophet, not a Kaiser, but you can draw the same lesson learned.
Direct connection is always clear, and you do not consume more battery on your phone. And when its connected, you are always ready to pick up incoming all. But this configuration requires 2 steps to pick up the call: one press from your car stereo to switch the input to AUX, then one press on your green button to pick up the call, unless you also play the music from your PPC.
BT connection, you always need extra step to enable the BT on the phone, and then switch on the BT adapter. If you forget to do this, you cannot pick up the incoming call. Also, the BT adapter (my experience with R35 with WM6) most of the time the connection was not established automatically, you can reestablish the connection by pressing the blue button once and then look at the phone to make sure the connection now is okay before start driving).
And you also carry one more new routine: to take the BT adapter for charging.
My experience after using it for a while, not very confinient. I'm looking into better solution, which is replacing the stereo unit with integrated BT one.
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Though I'm using Prophet, not a Kaiser, but you can draw the same lesson learned.
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Thanks so much! Unfortunately, my phone is mounted on the dash, but my AUX is inside my center console. Therefore I can't use the wired solution.
However, both locations have 12V ports, so I CAN keep the both phone and BT adapter powered. Sounds like that's the way to go.
What has your experience been on the i.Tech Clip R35 as far as quality is concerned?
Thanks!
I just ordered the Sonorix C3 to test out myself. Was between that and the Moto S705. The range on the Moto seems too good to be true. Lots of bad reviews. Haven't heard much of the Sonorix but the few reviews I have found are positive.
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i.Tech Clip R35, whenever you plug in the power plug (very tiny pin, I wish it is a mini USB like the PPC so I can reduce charger to bring along for travel), and it starts charging, it will turn off the BT during the charging period.
If you can find the one with mini USB charging port, that will be better.
It might not sound annoying for you if you have not used it, but after using it for a while, you will find that extra job everytime you enter and exit the car, ie: switching it on and then off, checking the BT connection before start driving, will eventually become problematic as well, or you can call it laziness. =)
In term of quality, the sound will be very loud and clear, as you use your car speaker. Very nice while driving. But the mic quality is not very good, people will say their barely hear you. I use a short cable and hang the chip R35 just below the rear mirror to get it closer to me.
And remember, to press the R35 to accept call, not your phone anymore. =)
My wish is something like this one (see the picture attached).
I ordered one, the BT connection is perfect. It turns on whenever you switch on your car, and it draws power from the car, so it never needs to be charged. It initiates the BT connection automatically to your phone.
The only draw back is it uses FM to feed to audio to your car stereo. I wish it has an output that I could connect to the car AUX.
In my city, all of the FM frequencies are used, so its very hard to get a clear transmission using any channel. Otherwise, this is the best choice.
I just checked their website (www.satechi.com), its kind of weird, now they do not have this product any longer. They used to have both flavors, with and without A2DP. Most people concern about the FM transmission quality and the mic performance. Otherwise, its an excellent idea. No wire at all.
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In term of quality, the sound will be very loud and clear, as you use your car speaker. Very nice while driving. But the mic quality is not very good, people will say their barely hear you. I use a short cable and hang the chip R35 just below the rear mirror to get it closer to me.
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Thanks so much for your input! I actually ordered one the other day, so I'll report back soon with my own thoughts.
I'm sorry to hear about the miniUSB port - I was hoping to cut down on chargers too. Worse, it seems, is that it isn't useable while charging - I suppose it's not a deal-breaker, but I would have liked to just be able to charge it while I used it.
Glad to hear the audio is good, and I hope the mic works somewhat well, as it will be beside me in the center console.
I want to hear your thoughts on the R35 as well drokkon. I am curious to see what you think about mic quality so I can decide if I really want to get it or not!
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I want to hear your thoughts on the R35 as well drokkon. I am curious to see what you think about mic quality so I can decide if I really want to get it or not!
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I just received my R35 yesterday (I ordered it from a Hong Kong-based ebayer, so keep in mind that it takes quite a while to get here).
Started using it right away after charging it for 3 hours. Initial thoughts:
Charger isn't MiniUSB, so I'll have to find some kind of car charger solution. Although, it's been pointed out that it doesn't play music while charging anyway, but I'd still like to leave it in my car at all times.
Music quality is superb! Also one little snag: unlike my bluetooth stereo headset, this thing doesn't automatically pair back up every time you power it on. You have to power it on, and then "click" the power button one more time to actually connect it to your phone again.
Called voicemail and it was cool to hear my phone over the car speakers. Unfortunately, I have yet to actually take a real call, so I'll have to get back to you on the mic quality. My Mazda3 will also make a great test bed, as it has "pronounced road noise" (but that was the only "con" listed in tons of otherwise great reviews, so I got it anyway!).
That is a bummer to hear that it doesn't automatically pair back up every time. But I guess it won't be that bad once it becomes habbit.
Let us all know when you find out about mic quality and final thoughts.
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That is a bummer to hear that it doesn't automatically pair back up every time. But I guess it won't be that bad once it becomes habbit.
Let us all know when you find out about mic quality and final thoughts.
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Okay - so here are my final thoughts:
You're right - it does become habit: hold for two seconds to power on, click once to re-pair. Pretty simple.
The sound quality shocks me - I'm no audiophile, but as far as I'm concerned, this isn't "near" CD quality, it IS.
The connection drops once in a while between phone and R35. After a call, sometimes the music is paused, sometimes it picks up where it left off, and sometimes it re-starts the song. This must be due to something I'm doing wrong or just the clumsy nature of what I perceive to be a fairly young technology. It's most likely the Tilt rather than the R35.
On to mic quality! I've only made two calls. Both times, people could hear me fine, despite that the device was in my center console, somewhat blocked by my shoulder. I was definitely speaking up, as my car is pretty loud on the highway. However, both times the callers asked to be taken off of hands-free because of pronounced echo (no small feat while driving, considering that turning off hands-free, as far as I know, involves clicking "menu").
Potential mic solutions: My device is pretty stationary, being attached to my console with a 4- or 5-inch audio plug. I'm thinking about getting a longer cord, so I can maybe turn my stereo down and hold the mic closer to my mouth... so much for hands-free, but maybe it would help the echo. More likely, I think I'll just let the R35 handle the "wireless stereo" and my headset handle "headset," since WM6 allows me to choose between those two bluetooth modes. That way the phone will ring while listening to my stereo, I take the call with my headset, and then resume listening to my stereo... I presume.
Finally - battery life. It boasts standby time of 16 hours and 6 of talk (I believe). I know you're not supposed to leave batteries in the cold, but my R35 was in the car overnight during the cold snap in Colorado last week - it probably was in the upper teens Fahrenheit. The day before, I fully charged it and listened to it for no more than an hour (and that's a generous estimate). The next day, I got 20-30 minutes before it went dead. I didn't realize that cold zapped batteries that dramatically. Since I always want to leave this thing in the car, that's another case for a car charger.
Speaking of car chargers, I guess I will post again, asking if anyone knows how I can get a "custom" one. There's this ridiculously tiny plug, plus the voltage/wattage listed on the wall transformer - surely I can find a custom solution...?
That's it - hope it helps! Can anyone review any of the other devices similar to the R35?
I don't own a Kaiser "yet". But I tried the Sony HBD-DS220 (or DS200) recently on my car w/ Axim X51v and Asus P525, and it works perfectly. Sound is perfect and you can't really notice it's over BT. And one nice thing about this headset is you CAN charge it while listening to music. But like all A2DP device, you will notice 1-2 sec out of sync if you use this for movie or MTV.
Anybody verify that when headphones are plugged in to the 3.5mm stereo jack and a call is either placed or picked up that you can hear the person on the other end through the headphones but the person on the other end cannot hear you?
The mic is essentially disabled when the headphones are connected.
I have confirmed with Blackberry, HTC HD2, & Mytouch Headphones that you can indeed talk to the person. I did have a problem with pushing in the headphones in all the way, & when they weren't in all the way they couldn't hear me so make sure it is fully contacted with the jack.
Well it definitely looks like this is a proprietary issue. I took my phone back to verizon to check whether or not the phone was defective. Brought my handsfree (both Ifrogz and V-moda) to test on in-store fascinate. Made a phone call and the sales guy couldn't hear me. Put it in his storm2 and it worked just fine.
Went back and used a co-workers samsung's handsfree, and it worked perfectly. I wish they would've included the handsfree in verizon package. Unless somebody has tested out another handsfree brand to let us know, I'm thinking the 3.5mm jack is customized to samsung accessories only.
Interesting find!
Keep in mind I'm not trying to use a handsfree headset - I'm attempting to use my Bose In-Ear headphones.
I used to be able to take calls on my Incredible (and other phones) with them if I was out trail running, walking, just listening to music, etc.
You have an excellent good point with regards to a proprietary 3.5 mm port due to the fact that it also supports video out.
get a cheap nokia headset controller ad-54 on ebay.. the changes the wiring so calls can work through headphones.. ie one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com/AD-54-HS-45-Han...464602?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a0a6bd19a
I also can confirm that this doesn't work with the Fascinate. On numerous occasions, I have been walking to class on campus while listening to music. I assumed I could just answer the call and speak, because I could do that on my Droid X, but the caller wasn't able to hear me.
I'm assuming Bose headphones do not have a microphone, so how do you plan on using those for calls?
You need to use headphones with a 4 prong jack, which has a mic, such as the OEM ones
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I'm assuming Bose headphones do not have a microphone, so how do you plan on using those for calls?
You need to use headphones with a 4 prong jack, which has a mic, such as the OEM ones
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Plugging in the headphones disables the main microphone on the phone though, even if there is not a mic on the headset. Normally on other phones I've had, I could answer while on the headphones and just speak into the phone's mic, but that us not possible with this phone. I don't know if there is a remedy for this that doesn't involve using a special set of headphones...
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I have confirmed with Blackberry, HTC HD2, & Mytouch Headphones that you can indeed talk to the person. I did have a problem with pushing in the headphones in all the way, & when they weren't in all the way they couldn't hear me so make sure it is fully contacted with the jack.
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I used my old blackberry headphones from my Storm and doesn't work but I noticed my friend had a spare headphones for his HD2. I should asks him for them.i doubt he needs a spare since he rarely uses a headphone.
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So I figyred how to use my blackberry headset on my Fascinate. I had to unplug after making a call and then plug it back in.
Why does every cell phone with top notch hardware specs get released with all these tiny little software glitches.
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I'm not sure if it was just me but I also had something odd happen. I used to use my iPhone for navigation and music in my car so, naturally, I use my new Fascinate the same way. I received a call while using my bluetooth headset and the phone routed audio to the car stereo instead of the bluetooth headset. I could hear the caller but they (obviously) couldn't hear me. The audio source on the screen was set to bluetooth too. Fairly annoying.
Anyone able to solve this?
Are you on a stock rom or a custom one? I believe this has been fixed with the Super Clean rom.
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Are you on a stock rom or a custom one? I believe this has been fixed with the Super Clean rom.
Sent from XDA Premium on my Super Clean Fascinate
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I'm using SC 2.9.2 and the receiving end couldn't hear anything.
I've run into this same issue. My wife's car has a bluetooth phone connection, so when in her car, I have my phone plugged into her stereo for music. When a phone call comes through, the call is picked up through the bluetooth, but the other end can't hear me unless I unplug the cable from the headphone jack.
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Anyone able to solve this?
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Samsung fixed it last fall (DJ05 and everything after). This thread necro is waaaaay misleading.
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Samsung fixed it last fall (DJ05 and everything after). This thread necro is waaaaay misleading.
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Well it wasn't working on the updates stock 2.1 nor SC 2.9.2 still.
solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23533875#post23533875
i fixed no problem at all
Ok, so I've searched the s4 threads for a while now and haven't seen anyone post about this issue, but I've found several threads related to older samsung hardware with the same issue and no real definitive solutions.
In my car I have bluetooth calling but not ad2p. If I plug my phone into the aux jack for my stereo it appears that it disables bluetooth audio, so if someone calls me, my car recognizes there's a call and plays its ring thru the stereo, the audio from Aux stops and it displays the call info on screen, but they can't hear me and I can't hear them. In other threads I've noted that sometimes people can still hear the other caller, but not them. I'm pretty sure this is related to the specific make/model of vehicle.
So I'm curious what workarounds do you guys have?
I'm trying to do this in a 2011 Nissan Rogue BTW.
I'm stock not rooted ATM.
And Thanks as always for any responses. You guys are awesome.
Same thing for me in an 06 Infiniti g35 coupe. I think it has to do with the phone and being plugged in via aux and conflicting with all audio being exported to the aux jack and pretty much disabling the Bluetooth (it certainly blows) hopefully there will be a fix soon.
I am pretty sire all of my phones do this. Note 2 one and the S4
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Bump, no workarounds?
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that really annoys me also, having to unplug the AUX every time a call comes in while on my Bluetooth.