hi,
does anyone know if there is anyone else other then pc mobile that sells the mp3 player earphone adapters for the xda2?
i am on my 2nd adapter from pc mobile and its already broken after 3 weeks of moderate use. the 1st adapter broke in the same way. the connection just breaks inside the wire. at the moment you can still move the wire around so you get sound out of both earphones but its only a matter of time before the one channel dies completely. im going to email pc mobile and see what they can offer me for 3rd adapter. or i may just buy it from someone else if i can find another one.
its been really disapointing with pc mobile so far. i bought the mini sync cable and the earphone adapter from them not too long ago. of course the mini sync cable didnt work and the earphone adapter went a couple weeks later. they sent me a replacement and now my 2nd adapter is dying
any suggestions?
As a soon to be XDA2 user who wants to play MP3s with it, may I ask you to elaborate on this earphone adapter thing? Do I need to buy an adapter before I can use my XDA as a music player? Or is that just if you want to use normal earphones? I know that most mobile devices use the handsfree headset socket for listening to music
What he means is that for some (incredibly stupid, imho) reason HTC decided to use a 2.5mm audio socket on the Xda II when every pair of half decent earphones you buy all have 3.5mm jacks. I know they probably did this to save some space inside the unit but im sure they could have managed 3.5mm socket.
Anyway this means if you want to use decent phones instead of the crap that comes with the device you will have to shell out for an adapter to go from a 3.5mm jack to a 2.5mm jack. But remember in doing this you will lose the headset function of the default phones.
not with this one
http://pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
but the buttons dont work with xda2
Ah that's okay then, coz my P800 is already like that. You just have to use a handsfree kit instead of normal headphones.
Would Maplin sell them?
if you mean a 2.5mm to 3.55mm converter ?
http://www.google.dk/search?q=2.5mm+to+3.5mm+jack+converter&ie=UTF-8&hl=da&btnG=Google-søgning
have no idea who or what Maplin is though
2.5 mm jack
hi guys
would it not be easyer to just cut the end off your headphones and soilder a 2.5mm jack on it?
http://www.maplin.co.uk/
maplin do them 56p :?
sorry 84p
Exactly my idea... Or buy a handfull of regular black Nokia 8110 headsets, cut off the jack and solder a 3,5 mm bus on it !
You need <Blanc> for Ground, and Red and Blue wire for audio...
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Sorry, my mistake !!
If you cut the nokia plug of a headset you get:
<Blanc> = Ground
RED = Mic
Green = Audio-R
Blue = Audio-L
For who's interested, the wireing on the mic+earpiece-end you are left with :
<Blanc> = Ground Mic
RED = Ground Audio
Green = Mic
Blue = Audio
so if you want to re-wire a Nokia (compatible) Headset ; swap red to green on the headset-side, and connect the leftover RED from the headset-side to the <blanc> on the plugside.
I paid £3 for a mini converter cable off ebay and it does exactly as described, use it in the car with tape adaptor
I have opened up the mic/switch unit to solder on my Sony headphones in place of the original XDA II ones.
It's a fairly simple process and will be a nice job when it's done.
The problem is the Sony wires are varnished so I can't get the solder to 'stick'.
Does anyone have any idea how to remove the varnish?
Heat doesn't do it and scraping it off is not really an option as the wires are too fragile.
Thanks in anticipation.
I was considering doing the same thing with my foldable Sony's, but have been chicken to do so, so far...
Have you considered nail polish remover or paint thinner to take off the varnish?
Yes, just after I hit the submit button the idea of nail polish remover hit me. I'll try it as soon as I get back to the UK. I'm in LA at the moment.
I'd recommend it. It makes for a really neat solution and, apart from removing the varnish, is really easy to do.
When I'm done I'll post some pictures.
Sorry, my mistake !!
If you cut the nokia plug of a headset you get:
<Blanc> = Ground
RED = Mic
Green = Audio-R
Blue = Audio-L
For who's interested, the wireing on the mic+earpiece-end you are left with :
<Blanc> = Ground Mic
RED = Ground Audio
Green = Mic
Blue = Audio
so if you want to re-wire a Nokia (compatible) Headset ; swap red to green on the headset-side, and connect the leftover RED from the headset-side to the <blanc> on the plugside
Related
I would like to use my Sony headset on my XDA II, but a normal adapter 2,5 => 3,5 mm does not work.
Could someone help me to joy of my mp3 albums :wink:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382404166&category=14419&rd=1
try your local electronics shop, radioshack, tandys, maplins or whatever there is out there in italy.
just get a stereo 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter
maplins sell them for 75p each
this is the site i ordered my headset adaptor from; a little pricey but services are tops. http://pc-mobile.net/xda.htm
i use the retractable adaptor with the removable headphone; from there you can plug in any headset with a 3.5 jack. it already comes with a microphone so no worries about answering a call while listening to the tunes.
cheers
robson
http://www.expansys.de/product.asp?code=105812&asource=106055
I bought this one about 1mnth ago, works perfect with my B&O headset
do all 2.5 stereo converters work as in do all 2.5 stereo adaptors have the mic part too ?
not all 2.5 - 3.5 mm jack converters have the mic; before i purhcased mine from the website i mentioned i saw a converter selling rather cheaply here in thailand. it was a very simple converter; plug the 2.5 jack to the xda's port and then plug in your headphones with the 3.5 jack. no mic; so if you received a call you could hear the person on the other end but not necessarity talk to him. you'd have to remove the jacks and answer the phone.
that's why i like the one i bought; the wire is retractable and thus avoids tangles. i can unplug the single headphone and put in my sony or b&o headset. if i receive a call i simly pull on the mic (extend the wire) and answer the call. as long as your headphone as a 3.5 mm jack it'll work with the converter.
2 cents worth
cheers mate
robson
Robson,
You use XDA I or XDA II? Are the plugs for two version same?
I bought a converter for xda which allows stereo speakers/headset use however when I saw it I realised it is a very cheap adaptor that can be got for pennies, the reason I sent for it was because when I tried a standard 2.5 to 3.5 stereo adaptor it appeared reluctant to go into the socket, when the expensive adaptor came it said "this adaptor may appear reluctant to go in the socket, give it a push", so I spent enough to buy halfo a dozen and still got the same item
I just went back to the ebay sale that I got that adaptor from, even though it is being sold as xda/xda2 compatable, he has now put an addition to his ad saying that it dont work with xda2, doesnt make sense to me because the old xda1 headset seems to work ok as far as I know on xda2.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382404166&category=14419&rd=1
hey sohand,
re: Robson,
You use XDA I or XDA II? Are the plugs for two version same?"
i use the xda2; but the converter i bought from the hk site i also used it for my xda1. when i bought the converter for the xda1; no problems with the plugs into the units port. when i then switched to xda2; i WAS worried that the plug of my converter wouldn't go in. it seemed kinda tight and snug; thus it did crossed my mind that i wasted money on the convereter. i studied it for quite a while and found out that it does work with the xda2 as well. i was a little reluctant about it at first; the customer service guy from the site said that the plug is used for both the xda1 and xda2. so i went ahead (and crossed my fingers) and pushed the plug inside the xda2's port. it went all the way in; and it works quite well. the present port of the xda2 is a little more pushed inside having the rubber cover and all. for the xda1 the port / plug was more exposed. but essentially they are the same and thus both work work with the same converter.
cheers
robson
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32242&item=3384042365
The standard 2.5 to 3.5 plug adaptor does not work with xda2, the size of the moulding and the rubber bung on the xda2 will not allow insertion, I have ordered one of the flying lead type, "link above", I will let you know if that works when it arrives.
Not yet a perfect one for XDA2
I have just received my pc-mobile.net retractable one. It fits the XDA2 socket nicely, no problem, and I can talk thro' the mic, I can plug in my favourite headphones, the volume control works....
The only problem is, the "Pickup" button on the Mic does not work on XDA2....
I bought the flying lead type of converter and although the end looks exactly like the end on the xda2 headphones and the moulding is small, it still does not work, it has to be pulled slighly out to work, I am giving up on this because I have a feeling that the socket will eventually end up banjaxed from all the insertions and withdrawals.
XDA2 to amplifier
Do you think it is safe to hook up XDA2 to amplifier and thus play MP3 music on big speakers ?
Petr V.
Hey,
I have a question regarding the XDA II.
When I'm getting the device I would like to get it connected in my car.
Is it possible to connect the XDA II to an amplifier and play my mp3's?
I know there are a few amplifiers out there that can be connected with a "walkman" jack.
If is possible could you put some pics online where I can check it out?
Thanks a lot!
Cheers
Panja
if you dont want to get a car tuner which neat jackconnectors
and you have a tape player in the car then
http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_accessories.asp?model=69&cat=16
this one or one like it would work if you made or got a xda 2.5 to 3.5 converter
First of all: thanks for the amazing fast reply!! :-D
I don't have a tape player in my car... So this is not an option for me...
I can buy an amplifier that can be connected with a "walkman" jack.
I had one a long time ago, I connected my walkman to the amplifier.
So is there a cable that can be connected to the XDA II and the other side that has a "walkman" jack? (So I can put this in the amplifier)?
And will this work for the XDA II?
Cheers
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT01
xda1 and 2 have compatible connectors apart from the pickup phone buttons
w00t!!
That's what I'm looking for man!
Thanks again, going to order that one as soon as my XDA II is in my hands :-D
Does anyone in here own such a cable?
Just want to know if the quality is any good...
If it's worth the money.
The cable itself is not that expensive but I would have to buy an amplifier too.
Don't care about the money as long as it works great :-D
Cheers
Also I would like to know when connected with the cable does the microfone still work? (so when the cable is inserted)
Because I will be using MS Voice software...
Thanks
if it does disable the mic in the xda then this
http://pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
would work it have a mic aswell and a 3.5mm connector
of cause then you would have to place it in a place where
it can recieve your voice
about sound quality then should not be much worse then the headset
it's just another connector with the jack 3.5mm
it's just analog you can compare it with how much the quality loss would be if a walkmen were connected the same way compared to connected to a headset
Thanks man!!
Just a question regarding the cable with mic.
If I will use it in the car with the sound (mp3) over my speakers won't that interfere with my microphone (with ms voice software)...?
Hi just thought this idea might help:
if you have a look around the net (i think Expansys.co.uk also do one) you can get a little radio module that plugs into a standard stereo jack, it transmits your audio to a special frequency that can be picked up by any FM radio nearby. Like you car radio if you have one.
I use my XDA II as an MP3 player in my car via Seidio's iSound wireless FM transmitter. The transmitter input plugs into the XDA2's headphone jack (I have a 2.5 to 3.5 mm adaptor) and then I tune my car stereo into the user definable frequency of the iSound transmitter. Works very well.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SFTF1
This sounds very very interesting guys!!
Thanks a lot.
This is a lot more userfriendly than putting an amplifer and stuff in.
I have a nice car audio so this is very neat!!
How is the sound quality?!
Cheers
So how is the sound quality?
Before I'm buying this one I would like to know if the sound quality is good.
I got the expansys adapter but it works very poorly for the XDAII dues to the unusual shape of the 2.5 socket on the XDAII. I have to fiddle with the plug to get it to work... very annoying.
Anyone found an adapter without this problem?
josephwaller said:
I got the expansys adapter but it works very poorly for the XDAII dues to the unusual shape of the 2.5 socket on the XDAII. I have to fiddle with the plug to get it to work... very annoying.
Anyone found an adapter without this problem?
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Yes, with another adapter i had the same problem.
Buy on old Nokia 8110 headet, cut it below the mic and use the wires to solder a 3,5mm connector to it, On the nokia wire :
blue = Audio-L
Green = Audio-R
Red = Mic
Blanc = Ground
Good luck !
I started to work on my 2.5mm-to-3.5mm adaptor.
It is a reduction between four-pin 2.5mm jack male connector (on XDA2's side) and two 3.5mm female connectors - first for stereo headphones and second for the microphone.
It's done and it works perfectly. I've got a high quality big headphones with built in microphone so listening to WMA music is near-HiFi and even telephone calls are much better for both sides.
But the problem is : buttons. The original headphones supplied with the XDA2 have two buttons: red and green. XDA1 had only one button and that button was just interconnecting two wires. But with XDA2 I've tried all combinations of interconnecting all of those four wires and nothing happened.
I didn't dare to open the original XDA2 headset, but I'm curious, what would I find.
Is there something more complicated in XDA2 headphones? Aren't they just interconnecting two wires but rather sending back to XDA2 some complicated signal?
XDA2 connected to Car HiFi
I already tested to use the XDA2 as a source of audio signal for :
1) HiFi aplifier at home
2) InCarAudio
It works perfectly and the sound is great.
I also tried to use a better external microphone connected to XDA2 - and results are great also.
So my adaptor 2.5mmJack-to-Two3.5mmJacks is really usefull for me.
But I really can't determine, how those two buttons on original headset do work!
my headphones are broken so I dont mind taking mine apart - want a photo of the interior?
Take a good look at the 2.5mm connector on the XDA2 handsfree. You will notice that it actually has 5 pin connectors. The fifth pin connector is actually the metal placed on the inside of the black cylinder or tube where the 2.5mm plug's base is located.
Ok guys.. what i would like to do is get the sound of the himalaya on my car stereo so i can watch a movie with perfect car sound instead of the internal speaker of the himalaya.
1st option: An FM Modulator that wil be connected through the 2,5mm jack but the problem here is i have to modify the cradle so the 2,5mm jack will fit.
2nd option: maybe a bluetoothdevice that is connected to the car stereo??
any other option??
i would like some opinions on how to deal with this one..
what i did was used a 2.5 to 3.5 jack converter (got it from hk but should be available elsewhere). then i used a an audio in-out jack (with a 3.5mm jack); plugged it into the now converted 3.5mm xda jack, then plugged the output into the audio input jack of my car stereo and there you go. almost similar to the system used for plugging in your ipod to the car's sound system. i use a bt headset so that takes of the calls. when the phone rings the music stops and the call comes in. butttttt....sometimes the media player doesn't come back on and i have to hit the play button. sure the unit is mounted but it can be a drag sometimes...
do u have some pics?
how did u solve the cradle problem blocking the 2,5mm jack input?
i am so curious!!
i'll have to take pics then. but the car mount i use is not officially for an xda unit; i just went and bought one when i was in hk for a business trip. the cradle is basic; clamps on the unit from the sides using those spring-action arms with anti-slip rubber-like material (?). the underside is supported by two stems...giving it the appearance of being a 2-legged fork. the supports are small enough so that they don't block the slot for plugging in the car charger and the microphone jack. the cradle is then supported from the back; which leads to the arm connected to the windshield via a heavy duty suction cup....well so far it hasn't fallen off... from there the 2.5 to 3.5 plug converter is around...an inch and half long maybe...the "male" 2.5 end plugs into the xda's "female" jack and at the other end is the "female" plug. the audio input/output connectors are basically similar to your vcr to tv connection; one plugs into the female 3.5 plug (connected to the xda) and the other simply plugs into the car stereo. not complicated at all if you ask me...and you don't really need to have the cradle / holder since you can just leave your unit on one of the shelves under the dash. again, similar to how the ipods are plugged into the car stereo...
ok i have a pretty good idea what it looks like but the problem i have is that my carholder/cradle is blocking the female jack connector so i think im gonna drill out a hole.
i bought me a 2,5 mm jack that i have to solder but the jack itself is too big so now i need an L shaped 2,5mm jack similar to the headphones of the himalaya...
thx for the input m8 (lol) stil a pic would be nice
Does anybody know the wiring diagram for the supplied headset?
Wolfgang
Sorry wolfgang, this is just a bump and not an answer. I'd also like to know if anyone's investigated the headset. What I'd like to be able to do (and I've never even *seen* the headset yet, still stuck in the hell of trying to obtain an Exec, see other threads) is use the microphone / button from the headset with a different pair of headphones.
I assume you mean the plug wiring? I've not had time to double-check this yet, but I believe it's the same as my Jornada 928 mic/stereo-headset.
Reading from the tip of the plug:
Plug tip: Left ear piece (short cable on the Jornada)
1st ring: Right ear piece (long cable on the Jornada)
2nd ring: Microphone
Top ring: Ground
When it arrived, I briefly tried the Jornada headset in the O2 Exec, and it worked in both ears, but I didn't check the left/right orientation. Until my Jabra BT500 bluetooth headset arrived, I was also using a self-modified (re-plugged) Plantronics single-ear headset with the tip and 1st ring linked to give mono, and that works without problems.
I suspect the standard headset shorts one of the signal lines to ground to give the answer/end function, but don't know which one.
HTH
Hey Astage can you tell me the Headset you using with single headset?
I am not heavy music listener, and I want a wired headset with single speaker ...
I will check plantronics sites also...
Please update me with the model which works fine with Wired Single Headset.
dont forget that you can use completely normal headphones in the Jasjar, this means (as posted Astage) meaning the ring that is the odd one out, compared to normal headphones, is used for both the Mic and the button. If nokia's are anything to go by the button will switch in a resistance of a certain value to indicate it has been pressed (this is because if the Mic is a coil mic it will already read as 0 ohms, a straight short to ground)
Mniko: Unfortunately this will not help you - I have the Plantronics M130 - however, as I said, I had to wire a different plug onto it.
The problem is that most single-ear headsets come fitted with a 3-ring 2.5mm diameter plug, wired as:
Plug tip: Microphone
1st ring: Ear-piece
Top ring: Ground
The Exec/Universal and other microphone+stereo headsets seem to use a larger 4-ring 3.5mm plug wired as per my earlier message. Because of the different wiring for the microphone signal you cannot just use a 2.5 to 3.5mm converter - even if you can find one. The situation is made worse if the headset (e.g. Plantronics) has a microphone sensitivity switch built into the plug, as you may need to also transfer this into the new plug.
Ice_coffee: Thanks for the update - saved me having to cut mine open.
yes I understand.... the prob is 2.5 & 3.5mm... I dont think any headset available around 3.5mm with mic and single headset, that made me to cut off the second speaker, which I already did...
I found one on http://pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
But they dont seems to have it anymore... I really wonder how come HTC didnt thought of it... after all universal is a phone to rite?
Ok well, using my multimeter and some maths I figured out that
1) Under normal circumstances the jasjar sees the mic as a 1000 ohm load
2) It knows when you have pressed the button because the load drops from 1000 ohms to a mere 45 ohms
3) you could acheive this by putting an 47ish ohm resistor on a switch in parallel with the mic, using this info you can construct a working headset from almost any headset on the market, most notably the many many headset/mic combos available for PC's