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Almost left Athena for another device...

I'll make this short and sweet since I'm @work and need to well, work...
I was growing tired of the burden of having the Athena with me all the time so I went down to at&t and got a Tilt... Nice phone (except for video issues which will be fixed hopefully) but I simply could not get used to a small screen again, especially for finger typing. Athena's big screen really reduces the need to use a stylus. In fact, I only use it for actually writing notes on the screen.
So, I thought, maybe 2 devices again? I could go to the Moto Q9 Global and the HP iPAQ 210/211 (release iminent if not out already...) But, the lack of wi-fi on the Moto was a deal-breaker for me since I sometimes spend 2 or 3 days at a time in a location with wi-fi only. I had the Q for a week and returned it.
I simply could not adapt to either device; I have adapted to the Athena. It's been covered before how this is not a proper phone and I agree but with my Jabra BT8010 and LG Style-I (I have and use both) it works well enough for me. I'm more of a data user than a talker.
Of course, your mileage may vary...

Yes, it is hard to leave the Athena especially when you are a custom to the screen and other aspects we take for granted. I tried the Tilt as well, and it was no match. In the end, I am still perfectly happy with the Athena until another big screen slimmer device with more capabilities.

Almost same here.
- Had a Universal -> happy;
- Universal dead, replaced with Hermes by operator -> *very* unhappy;
- Hermes eBayed, Athena bought -> happy.
Can't understand how people now how people can browse the web, play video and stuff on smallish QVGA screens.

lpsi2000 said:
Yes, it is hard to leave the Athena especially when you are a custom to the screen and other aspects we take for granted. I tried the Tilt as well, and it was no match. In the end, I am still perfectly happy with the Athena until another big screen slimmer device with more capabilities.
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More capabilities - like being able to fly??
I agree with you and HeartofDarkness - the screen (and built-in GPS) make it invaluable. Now if only they would produce a version that didn't have the microdrive but just had a large solid state drive......

Came from an atom. Did all you mentioned. Damaged my eyes in the process. Fortunately damage was temporary. I'm very happy with my athena. Heavy and big compared to the atom but for now, it works for me and I love it. Until a better PPC comes out, I don't think I will consider replacing it.

Things I would look for in a new device:
thinner but wider display to improve web browsing and enable a 'narrower' device. The only REAL thing I miss about the Athena is the big screen, but with a little design alteration the size could be more-or-less maintained without making the device as bulky as at present.
Slimmer profile, rounded at the edges and no keyboard. I think the look of the device is spoiled by the hardware keyboard and I much preferred to leave it at home and use Fingertouch.
Ability to use as a handset like the Iphone for when needed (bt works but some people don't like using bluetooth/wired headsets all of the time)
Full ATI chip support.
Vueflo improvements such as auto-rotation
FlashLite 3.0 to enable full embedded flash site support!
This is what i'll be looking for. I'm sure if HTC don't release a device like this someone will.

leoni1980 said:
Things I would look for in a new device:
thinner but wider display to improve web browsing and enable a 'narrower' device. The only REAL thing I miss about the Athena is the big screen, but with a little design alteration the size could be more-or-less maintained without making the device as bulky as at present.
Slimmer profile, rounded at the edges and no keyboard. I think the look of the device is spoiled by the hardware keyboard and I much preferred to leave it at home and use Fingertouch.
Ability to use as a handset like the Iphone for when needed (bt works but some people don't like using bluetooth/wired headsets all of the time)
Full ATI chip support.
Vueflo improvements such as auto-rotation
FlashLite 3.0 to enable full embedded flash site support!
This is what i'll be looking for. I'm sure if HTC don't release a device like this someone will.
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Amen to all these.
Would just add what it should still be on winCE platform for the sake of software availability.
Also, camera taking indoor could improve.
Don't forget to replace microdrive with an SSD.
If possible, I prefer regular size SDHC. It's capacity seems to be always ahead of minisdhc and microsdhc.
But for now, Athena is still the only option meeting my needs most closely.

Despite what the cosmic feline has spewed all over xda (I hope he is banned indefinitely), I still consider the Athena a single-device solution since anything as easy to carry as a BT headset or Style-i is not burdensome as separate phone and PDA. I did the 2-device thing awhile back with an iPAQ 4705 and Nokia 6230b and I found myself without the PDA on too many occasions. Future onverged devices will mean fewer compromises than we have to make now but for now the Athena is as good as it gets and that's good enough for me. And as good as it gets has only gotten better with the AP team and xda input and development.

calm down now. let's be nice please, each to their own and all that......i use two devices at the moment as it suits my needs: am i an idiot?

the athena might get even better within a few days/weeks. im seeing if it could be a first device with something.... cant reveal what yet but oh well we'll see if it will be possible.

leoni1980 said:
Things I would look for in a new device:
thinner but wider display to improve web browsing and enable a 'narrower' device.
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Leoni,
I've given more thought to the issue of aspect ratio.
I think that we should not go for a narrower screen. Narrower screen is suitable for portrait use. Also, most applications will not be able to use it properly. Think about the problems square screens are having. Also, think about your wide screen television playing most videos, which requires the image to be flattened in order to cover the entire screen, or having to leave the two sides margin unused.
I think the aspect ratio should just stick to the standard ones because of this.
Am I making sense?

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Leoni,
I've given more thought to the issue of aspect ratio.
I think that we should not go for a narrower screen. Narrower screen is suitable for portrait use. Also, most applications will not be able to use it properly. Think about the problems square screens are having. Also, think about your wide screen television playing most videos, which requires the image to be flattened in order to cover the entire screen, or having to leave the two sides margin unused.
I think the aspect ratio should just stick to the standard ones because of this.
Am I making sense?
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Narrower screen will suit movie playback better as it is more in fitting with the widescreen standards, whereas the Athena's aspect ration necessitates more cropping to fill the screen as it is quite square. 800*480 is becoming more common on pocket pc's and moble devices so I don't think compatibility will be any more of a problem than it is with VGA. Also web browsing will be significantly improved as there will only be a minimal need for horizontal scrolling. This in turn will make remote desktop and things such as Pocket Excel, Pocket Word and any other graphical/chart app look a lot better.
What do you think?

leoni1980 said:
Narrower screen will suit movie playback better as it is more in fitting with the widescreen standards, whereas the Athena's aspect ration necessitates more cropping to fill the screen as it is quite square. 800*480 is becoming more common on pocket pc's and moble devices so I don't think compatibility will be any more of a problem than it is with VGA. Also web browsing will be significantly improved as there will only be a minimal need for horizontal scrolling. This in turn will make remote desktop and things such as Pocket Excel, Pocket Word and any other graphical/chart app look a lot better.
What do you think?
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It would be like what you see on television. Basically the extra space would not be used for many years until all movies are made in the new format. It would only happen if there is widespread adoption of wide screen TV.
Similarly, unless all PDA moves in the same direction, software vendor is not going to start coding their applications for wide screen just for a small market.
A long and narrow screen will also be unsuitable for portrait use.
I think with the 96 dpi, ability to see is not an issue with Athena's size and aspect ratio. With excel, one cannot completely eliminate need for horizontal scrolling. A narrower screen would give less visibility height wise, so I'm not sure that is better or not. But the key issue, as I mentioned, is the availability of software, which is not up to us, or the hardware vendor. To go wide and short screen is going against the de facto standard in the PDA industry, and would have to overcome too much problems to be worth it.

eaglesteve said:
It would be like what you see on television. Basically the extra space would not be used for many years until all movies are made in the new format. It would only happen if there is widespread adoption of wide screen TV.
Similarly, unless all PDA moves in the same direction, software vendor is not going to start coding their applications for wide screen just for a small market.
A long and narrow screen will also be unsuitable for portrait use.
I think with the 96 dpi, ability to see is not an issue with Athena's size and aspect ratio. With excel, one cannot completely eliminate need for horizontal scrolling. A narrower screen would give less visibility height wise, so I'm not sure that is better or not. But the key issue, as I mentioned, is the availability of software, which is not up to us, or the hardware vendor. To go wide and short screen is going against the de facto standard in the PDA industry, and would have to overcome too much problems to be worth it.
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There are already windows mobile devices with 800 by 480 screens. It would be interesting to see if there are any compatibiity issues versus standard VGA, however I doubt there are. The widescreen ratio here in britain is standard in all broadcasts of the last 3 years or so and is certainly standard in Movies, meaning that for movie and tv applications at least some of the Athena's screen height is wasted unless cropping the image. The 800 by 480 ratio is also more in keeping with the typical ratio of photography. Portrait orientation is not really an issue since the .480 resolution is the same as it would be on the Athena, though marginally scalled down in size. Overall there will be an improvement in screen real-estate and a more pocket-able device would be possible

leoni1980 said:
There are already windows mobile devices with 800 by 480 screens. It would be interesting to see if there are any compatibiity issues versus standard VGA, however I doubt there are. The widescreen ratio here in britain is standard in all broadcasts of the last 3 years or so and is certainly standard in Movies, meaning that for movie and tv applications at least some of the Athena's screen height is wasted unless cropping the image. The 800 by 480 ratio is also more in keeping with the typical ratio of photography. Portrait orientation is not really an issue since the .480 resolution is the same as it would be on the Athena, though marginally scalled down in size. Overall there will be an improvement in screen real-estate and a more pocket-able device would be possible
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I'm not the expert on this area. I just know the square screen devices had problem running many normal software, and its just my educated guess, not based on any hard research, that it might encounter similar issues in another aspect ratio.
Someone with more knowledge might want to comment on this, as I feel that I'm begining to comment based on speculations now. I'd rather not do that.
Other than this concern, I think 800x480 would be great.
Cheers.

Its a matter of choosing to stay with the past, or go with the future. In the past the 4:3 ratio was most common both for TV and computer monitor formats. Now with HD getting ready to become mainstream in many countries, the 16:9 ratio is becoming the new TV standard. Computer monitors are also quickly taking on that ratio with all the "widescreen" versions now on the market. I'm betting within 2 years 16:9 will be the definitive standard for TV and computers, especially since 4:3 content on a 16:9 screen is more useable than the reverse (watching a widescreen movie on a 4:3 screen sucks).
Now resolution is another matter, and some seem to be getting that mixed up with the physical dimention ratio. You can squish 800X480 on a 4:3 screen, or a 16:9 screen, you just need elongated pixels. Not that any company would do that, I'm just saying. So after going with 16:9, an appropriate resolution would have to go with it like 960x540.
I think the best form factor for the next version would be a 16:9 screen, which would elongate it somewhat and reduce the height. Not only would this allow for 4:3 and 16:9 content, it would make it easier to hold as a real phone (and then make sure it has a standard private earpiece so it can be used as a phone). By making it a little longer it should be able to be thinned out a little, too, since there would be more internal volume for components. Add vibrate and all the hold-outs will buy it - the ones that love every spec except the fact that its not quite a phone. The mass market won't buy it unless it has vibrate and a private earpiece. Adding the widescreen will appeal to the iphone crowd and many others looking for the next big thing.
Widescreen, a little thinner, a private earpiece and vibrate and HTC will have an instant hit.

techntrek said:
Its a matter of choosing to stay with the past, or go with the future. In the past the 4:3 ratio was most common both for TV and computer monitor formats. Now with HD getting ready to become mainstream in many countries, the 16:9 ratio is becoming the new TV standard. Computer monitors are also quickly taking on that ratio with all the "widescreen" versions now on the market. I'm betting within 2 years 16:9 will be the definitive standard for TV and computers, especially since 4:3 content on a 16:9 screen is more useable than the reverse.
Now resolution is another matter, and some seem to be getting that mixed up with the physical dimention ratio. You can squish 800X480 on a 4:3 screen, or a 16:9 screen, you just need elongated pixels.
I think the best form factor for the next version would be a 16:9 screen, which would elongate it somewhat and thin out the height. Not only would this allow for 4:3 and 16:9 content, it would make it easier to hold as a real phone (and then make sure it has a standard private earpiece so it can be used as a phone). By making it a little longer it should be able to be thinned out a little, too. Add vibrate and all the hold-outs will buy it - the ones that love every spec except the fact that its not quite a phone. The mass market won't buy it unless it has vibrate and a private earpiece. Adding the widescreen will appeal to the iphone crowd and many others looking for the next big thing.
Widescreen, a little thinner, a private earpiece and vibrate and HTC will have an instant hit.
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Yes, indeed the longer but narrower phone will be easier to hold.
Do you reckon there will be problem running existing applications on 800x480 screen?

I doubt it, although if they go 16:9 the resolution would have to be something like 960x540 or some other similar 16:9 format (I edited my post above to include this). Well-written applications like Word or GPS should already be built to handle any resolution. I know on desktop Windows any resolution change triggers a system event, which apps are supposed to monitor and adapt to. I assume since RealVGA requires a reboot Windows Mobile doesn't support resolution changes on the fly, but it should at least have an API to tell apps what the current resolution is when they first run, and most apps should already be built to adjust accordingly - there are just too many different screen sizes on the market for them not to.

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I doubt it, although if they go 16:9 the resolution would have to be something like 960x540 or some other similar 16:9 format (I edited my post above to include this). Well-written applications like Word or GPS should already be built to handle any resolution. I know on desktop Windows any resolution change triggers a system event, which apps are supposed to monitor and adapt to. I assume since RealVGA requires a reboot Windows Mobile doesn't support resolution changes on the fly, but it should at least have an API to tell apps what the current resolution is when they first run, and most apps should already be built to adjust accordingly - there are just too many different screen sizes on the market for them not to.
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True, they cannot afford to not cater to all the different resolutions and aspect ratios. What I'm worried is what in reality many programs are written by lazy programmers who had not made their applications as smart as the likes of microsoft office. Games, for example. But, I'm hopeful that more and more people would become aware of the need to make their applications aspect ratio as wellas resolution aware.
Anyway, by the time we get our next device, wm7 should be out. Then, many developers might need to go through some adaptation. Who knows, wm7 may allows resolution change without the need to reset?

leoni1980 said:
calm down now. let's be nice please, each to their own and all that......i use two devices at the moment as it suits my needs: am i an idiot?
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@me? I am perfectly calm, damnit!!! (just kidding...) Anyone who carries 2 devices is fine with me; to each his or her own, it just didn't work for me. As for spacecat, he was always picking a fight and I grew weary of his drivel cluttering xda. He's entitled to his opinion as well but stepped over the line by attacking others. 'Nuff said.

vga screen vs iphone screen

im waiting for my advantage to come and had a quick question for thoose that have the device already. do images look clear and crisp on the screen while browsing the web? i know its a vga res, but i get confused by the whole dpi thing. will the images look similar to the iphone images. not the browser im talking about the images themself. i read a comment saying that browsing on the advatange was like browsing on four kasier screens will the images not look better on the advantage because of the bigger screen? or will they look alot better than a 2.8 inch screen or 3.6 (i think iphone) screen?

cjmedina said:
im waiting for my advantage to come and had a quick question for thoose that have the device already. do images look clear and crisp on the screen while browsing the web? i know its a vga res, but i get confused by the whole dpi thing. will the images look similar to the iphone images. not the browser im talking about the images themself. i read a comment saying that browsing on the advatange was like browsing on four kasier screens will the images not look better on the advantage because of the bigger screen? or will they look alot better than a 2.8 inch screen or 3.6 (i think iphone) screen?
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Images won't look 'better' as such aside from the increase in size. Fonts and icons however look infinitely better. The kaiser's screen is quarter vga, meaning its resolution (pixel count) is a quarter of the Athena's. The size of the Athena's screen is also bigger but this is not necessarily a given: the toshiba Portege g900 has an even higher resolution screen than the Athena and yet a substancially smaller display.
The iphone display is of a very different aspect ratio to the relatively 'square' athena display, being 1.5:1, so its resolution could never tally with the Athena. The slightly different dimensions work very well for the multimedia functions for which the iphone is optimised, most noticeably widescreen movie playback. Its actual resolution is 480 by 320 pixels, and it is very colourful crisp and sharp as well as transflective (meaning it can easily be seen in daylight: the athenas's display is not) and scratchproof.
The iphone aces the Athena on multimedia performance, given its great mp3, video and browsing capabilities. It does exactly what it supposed to do well. The athena is let down by an unsupported video chip, making it (and most HTC devices) not perform as well as it could with video playback. It also doesn't have as intuitive or attractive a UI as the Iphone. What it DOES have is lots of software, including alternative browsers, better offfice utilities, more potential for personalisation and a replaceable battery. The best screen between the two for me is the Iphone's, though it is 1.5 inches smaller so many would prefer the bigger athena display.
For the difference between qvga and vga though you have to see a kaiser and athena screen side-by-side
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I have included a screen capture for you, the picture is this good on my athena
(personally I think it is very good)

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I have included a screen capture for you, the picture is this good on my athena
(personally I think it is very good)
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im sorry, i just have to ask is that man in the pic hold an old revolver... jesus does the asain women carry a musket and a horn with gun powder in it. lol j/k

irus said:
im sorry, i just have to ask is that man in the pic hold an old revolver... jesus does the asain women carry a musket and a horn with gun powder in it. lol j/k
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LMAO... I was wondering the same thing.

ok thanks guys just wanted to make sure the images dont look all smashed like they do on a 2.8 inch screen.

The screen on the advantage is 3" x 4" @ 480 x 640 which is 160 pixels per inch
the screen on the iPhone is 3" x 2" @ 480 x 320 which is also 160 pixels per inch
the screen on the TytnII (kaiser) is 1.68" x 2.24" @ 240 x 320 which is 142 pixels per inch

A ppi count alone does not give a true reflection of the difference in resolution and size. On the face of it the Tilts ppi statistics seem to bear little difference to the athena's and iphone's. In reality both the Athena and Iphone have clearer, sharper and brighter screens which accomodate web pages and document viewer/editors in a more enjoyable fashion.
Htc's crappy, non-transflective Qvga screens are to me inexcusable on modern windows mobile devices and yet still they insist on shipping out these sub_standard slider devices. i had my Tilt/vario 3 for a week and thought it was cheap, poorly built and that components such as the 3.2mp camera were substandard given the expense of the device.
Anyway. If the next iphone has 3g, a 5mp camera with autofocus and dvd-quality video and a huge wealth of free software (and a group of talented developers constantly working on every programming need) and isn't just on O2 (in the UK) or AT&T (in the U.S.) and doesn't cost the earth....well i might give one a go.....

Is a higher resolution screen possible?

For two years I have loved everything about my Shift but always wished for a higher resolution screen.
This board is full of hardware experts and yet there has been no mention of upgrading the display.
I would have though HTC would have used a COTs display with a standard interface. Surely higher resolution screens of the same size and interface exist, and could replace the existing display?

if you want help in this there was a hack to fool the hardware of the asus eee to whatever resoloution you wanted, was very cool, check out eeeuser website
could prove useful dont know if the prog would need adjusting or anything wortj trying

I don't think it would even be that complicated.
When the windows side is in the virtual resolution of 1024 x 600, performing a print screen yields a bitmap of 1024x600. So as far as the OS is concerned, 1024x600 is the resolution being display and that is the resolution being output by the graphics driver.
So I guess it's the display electronics that reduce this display to the interpollated 1024x600 on the 800x480 display.
A perfect example of this is using the VGA video output to an external monitor, where high resolutions can be used at will.
I'm no expect in this hardware area but I would suspect that it might be possible to use a higher resolution screen with the shift. But I don't know if the shift connects to the screen with a standard interface.
But if it was possible, I would have thought someone would have done it.
Even if it was not possible, here's a thought. Why not use the VGA port to 'double back' into a new high resolution screen fitting into the shift, connected to the VGA, and powered by the Shift. It would be a bit of a bodge, but would give a great display.
Does anyone know if this is possible?

There's any "no fit to screen " option? for the apps that are not QVGA

Hi! i have a question... there is any option/app to, like on PC, when any full screen software do not have your resolution, not resize the app to the screen?
because, i think the worst defect of the wildfire is the non standard resolution, and a lot of apps do not have this resolution... and i think this causes some apps not to work very well, specially games...
i dont know if im explaining myself (my english is not very good)

No, its the app that must support the resolution. You can use apps like LCD Density Changer to give the effect of a higher resolution, but that is hardly optimal.
This is why there are complaints everywhere about Android Fragmentation. There is no standard set of requirements, which leads to issues like these (Only for low end devices though)
Lastly, the games not playing is more because of the grandfather-age hardware and no GPU on the phone. Not the resolution.

Is there a way to lower the screen resolution from 1080p to 720p?

I hear they lower the res from 1440 to 1080 in the G3 so is there a way to lower the screen resolution in the G2 from 1080p to 720p?
I couldn't find anything about it in search.

Screen resolution of an lCD is a physical attribute, it cannot be changed. You can change the software to renderer the image so you would get a lower resolution data to show, and since android source is available, it is technically possible. I doubt anybody tried, because our device has a adequite computing power to generate 1080p images. On the other hand, lg g3 has almost same power, but it displays almost double size image. For g2, it won't worth the lost of quality.
The issue is, since LCD will display it on its physical resolution(there is no other way), your image quality will be far worse than the down sampled version. For example, if you render the sceen at 720p, and show it on a 720p 5.2" display, you will lose ~%55 of your data, but since you render your source on this resolution, will be sharp, just won't have so much detail. If you display this 720p image in 1080p display however, screen resolution cannot be changed, so your screen will try to calculate the missing %55, and then show you the result. Since there is no original data, it assumes the missing pixels were like the ones around them, which means your result will be blurry.
As a side note, old tube displays does not have a resolution, they can support various resolutions. We used to set resolution to our taste between speed and detail back then.

enigmanp covered the technical aspect of it and I'll just follow up with my own personal experience.
I had a chinese android tablet running at 2048x1536 resolution, the same resolution commonly found in iPad tablets.
My Android tablet sometimes perform sluggish because of the high resolution. Even though the CPU was a quad core 1Ghz, it's still chinese and the GPU wasn't great either. So I lowered the resolution and everything was blurred and not sharp at all (due to the reasons enigmamp explained above). I DID notice an improvement in overall speed, but apps started misbehaving and it was all a huge mess.
Now the only reason I did that was because I found my tablet lacking smoothness/performance. I just don't quite see why you'd want to do that on the G2 since the CPU and GPU can clearly handle even the most intensive 3D games on high detail. Could you please explain?

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Could you please explain?
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Mainly to save on battery.
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Screen resolution of an lCD is a physical attribute, it cannot be changed. You can change the software to renderer the image so you would get a lower resolution data to show, and since android source is available, it is technically possible. I doubt anybody tried, because our device has a adequite computing power to generate 1080p images. On the other hand, lg g3 has almost same power, but it displays almost double size image. For g2, it won't worth the lost of quality.
The issue is, since LCD will display it on its physical resolution(there is no other way), your image quality will be far worse than the down sampled version. For example, if you render the sceen at 720p, and show it on a 720p 5.2" display, you will lose ~%55 of your data, but since you render your source on this resolution, will be sharp, just won't have so much detail. If you display this 720p image in 1080p display however, screen resolution cannot be changed, so your screen will try to calculate the missing %55, and then show you the result. Since there is no original data, it assumes the missing pixels were like the ones around them, which means your result will be blurry.
As a side note, old tube displays does not have a resolution, they can support various resolutions. We used to set resolution to our taste between speed and detail back then.
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So why it doesn't get blurry on the G3 then?

If it's to save battery, I doubt you'll see much of a change.
The GPU is working on a smaller load but most of the time it's running at 200 MHz anyway. But I'm no expert, I'm just telling what I know and what I've experienced. I'll head over to the g3 thread to read more!

Reducing the number of pixels would help you to save battery if you are using a phone with AMOLED screen, sadly it is not the case with LG G2. So even by turning the resolution down, you are using pretty much the same amount of battery as you would with full 1080p resolution.
If you want to go ahead with it anyway, there are plenty of apps on the play store which does this. Just search "resolution" in the play store and you'll find them. However I don't think this will help your battery life at all, nor do I recommend it.

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Well, when i found out this was an option i just had to tinker. I have a G2 that is my daily driver and a S6 for back up. I changed it to 900x1600 480dpi and it works just fine. The camera touch focus is a little off, but otherwise it is sooper smooth now. I also throttle the CPU down. So both together I get a good experience and decent battery life. I know this is a late response, but to anyone out there with root and some lackluster performance might want to give this a shot. I needed to reboot once to correct some keyboard skewing. I also adjusted the height of the keyboard to compensate for the change in real estate. Works like a champ, no real noticeable degradation in viewing pics or videos. I'm going to try this on my Nook Hd+. It needs a shot in the arm (no pun intended).

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Well, when i found out this was an option i just had to tinker. I have a G2 that is my daily driver and a S6 for back up. I changed it to 900x1600 480dpi and it works just fine. The camera touch focus is a little off, but otherwise it is sooper smooth now. I also throttle the CPU down. So both together I get a good experience and decent battery life. I know this is a late response, but to anyone out there with root and some lackluster performance might want to give this a shot. I needed to reboot once to correct some keyboard skewing. I also adjusted the height of the keyboard to compensate for the change in real estate. Works like a champ, no real noticeable degradation in viewing pics or videos. I'm going to try this on my Nook Hd+. It needs a shot in the arm (no pun intended).
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it would be nice if you share a "how to" as well
i tried lowering the resolution on my tablet and G2 with some apps from the playstore - but only thing i got was an unstable device(s)...

desertmod1 said:
I hear they lower the res from 1440 to 1080 in the G3 so is there a way to lower the screen resolution in the G2 from 1080p to 720p?
I couldn't find anything about it in search.
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download terminal
write in terminal :
su [ENTER]
wm size 720x1280 && wm density 220 [ENTER]
new density: new resolution * current dpi / old resolution ( for e.g. 720*1280*480/(1080*1920) = 213), altough i tested, and it seems that 240 is the best (for me), but it looks awful, for me, so i will go back to full hd + 410 dpi
ofc root required )
anyway, please share with us if it will be any battery life improvement

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As a side note, old tube displays does not have a resolution, they can support various resolutions. We used to set resolution to our taste between speed and detail back then.
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Now I miss those glory days of correcting CRT display alignment and freedom to changes aspect ratio/resolution beyond the DAC supported rate at the expense of mild irreversible eye's retina damage. Lol. :laugh: