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Anybody interested in an XDA as infrared datamodem?

Is anybody interested in this?
If there are some votes I could build an application which provides a infrared to datamodem proxy.
UnKnOwN

This feature is already part of the new 3.16 ROMs currently under test.

Thx for the info.
UnKnOwN

If you are looking for a project, would you consider this?
I have a tracking unit in my car. I can send it an SMS message from my XDA and it will return a full GPS NMEA string with a header. Can anyone tell me the feasability of writing an application that could post this incoming data directly to the TomTom maps program and display the vehicles exact position at street level.
The GPS application supplied with TomTom maps can obviously do this with streaming NMEA strings through the serial port.
If this application is possible I think there is a lot of potential. I am in the telematics business and I know that the majority of tracking devices work the same way.
John Bateman
[email protected]globalnet.co.uk

I think it's possible to write this application. All you have to do is to build a virtual serial port driver in Platform Builder and to check incoming SMS messages in a user level application.
If you are interested in a real bussiness project just let me know.
John

hi @all
a REALY GOOD project would be to use the WM as GSM Gateway. that would be the HIT
best regards
noway

vehicle fleet managment application

I am looking for an adviser/consultant to develop an aplication to pass data from a pc to pda (XDA IIi or cross-platform) and vice versa via gprs (not sms). The application should also be able to integrate with TomTom for navigation and tracking on the base station. The application is intended to be used in vehicle fleet management. Ready to pay for the right service - pls email [email protected] if interested. UK-based developers preferred.
ajanaman

have look at roadtech www.roadtech.co.uk there roadrunner system sounds like it could be for you

vehicle fleet managment system
quote ..... 'have look at roadtech www.roadtech.co.uk there roadrunner system sounds like it could be for you'
I am not looking for someone that could advise and/or help write the source code for the system. the source is needed for integration into another application.

vehicle fleet management system
Dear all
correction!!
my last post should read:
I am looking for someone that could advise and/or help write the source code for the system. the source is needed for integration into another application.
thanks

You just need to transfer data between PC and PDA via GPRS? That's easy enough isn't it?
Integrating into GPS etc should also be fine, sending packets of locator info from PDA's GPS to cross reference with POI in PC based navigator programs...
V

vijay555 said:
You just need to transfer data between PC and PDA via GPRS? That's easy enough isn't it?
Integrating into GPS etc should also be fine, sending packets of locator info from PDA's GPS to cross reference with POI in PC based navigator programs...
V
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Can you please point me in the direction of some sample code or text books on this. thanks.

i'm away from any desk right now but you're just after tcp connections and/or rapi i think...check pocketpcdn for a start...we can chat when i get back from holiday next week.
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How does google know that I surfed in from a pda

Hello
The other day i surfed to google from my XDA exec.
mobile internet rocks!!
i was wondering how does google know that i surfed in from a pda, cause i think it sent me to
www.google.co.uk/pda

the web page probably detected your screen size and redirected you to a page that was more friendly to you PDA browser. i wish more sites would do this.
www.google.com/pda for us US residents.

LOL
Not the screen size but the type of your internet browser, in this case Pocket IE.

Correct--it's not the screen size.
Although a LOT of your information is sent over the wire, much more than most of us realize, your resolution information is unknown to most websites, unless you explicitly allow it to be given via some kind of an executable that transmits such information. An example would be an embedded ActiveX object in IE for Windows.
Back on topic, yes, your browser information is known, not only to Google, but to every other website you visit. Not only that, the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy) and where you went when you left it. There's a whole bunch of information deemed to be private that we would rather keep to ourselves (such as our surfing habits) that's known to any website that installs a cookie (a common thing nowadays) on your computer.
This is also how Google knows where you are. For example, when I log on, Google send me to the local Saudi page at http://www.google.com.sa/ It knows this information by doing a reverse lookup on your IP address, and comparing it against known databases of geographically assigned IPs. Since IP addresses are assigned and tied to geographical locations, it's easy enough to do, although it's still very disconcerting to see.
Be careful folks, even your searching habits are being tracked by Google. I have nothing to hide, so I don't care, but many folks do. Witness the recent Federal inquiry into the searching habits of the users of major search engines. Yahoo and MSN gave up that information quickly enough but Google is resisting. I don't think it will be able to hold out for very long though.
Imagine...now the fact that you searched for p0rn on the 'net is well known to anyone in the know. Scary, isn't it?
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thanks monakh
so google can detect both my mobile ip address (is there such a thing?) and my browser, correct?

monakh said:
the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy)
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Correct, through the referrer...
monakh said:
and where you went when you left it.
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Only if you click a link on the site itself, -and- it is handled via a special handler.
No information is sent to a website when you leave it through e.g. a bookmark in your browser, or by typing in a new URL.
Please correct me if I'm wrong

You are correct.

hey i mailed myself (google account) using my adsl modem and using the gprs/3g connection to check the header to see if i could spot an originating ip address
i found one common ip address
Received: by 10.xy.za.b with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:34:45 -0800 (PST)
i guess this is the google server, correct?
is there any way to prise the originating ip address from an email

That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.

Tuningszocske said:
That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
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Not entirely... I mean, you could - of course. But it also means that many sites will fail to send you PDA-specific content - which, with most plans/top-ups, means heavy costs.
Identifying PIE as IE6 is more used for stupid websites who check whether the browser is IE6 or above, regardless of whether that is actually required by the site.
There's three parts, the compatibility bit ('(Default) = Mozilla/4.0'), the browser string ('Version = MSIE 6.0') and the platform ('Platform = Windows NT 5.0'). If you leave the last bit intact ('Platform = Windows CE'), then you should still be able to get into stupid sites, while having PDA-friendly sites send you the PDA content.

oh i had not thought about the popups
i guess we wont get(suffer) popups with mobile ie5?
i just posted to this bulletin board to check my ip address
from the pc it looks like this 82.1a.bcd.efg
and fro my cda it looks like 193.abc.def.ghi

That's fine because presumably your mobile device and your home PC are on different networks so they sport different IPs.
IPs are a dead giveaway. In many cases, your position can be 'somewhat' and primitively triangulated to within 5 square miles of where you are. This may not be necessarily true for mobile networks, but those networks know where you are at all times anyway. In fact, there is now regulation in the US that mandates all handset makers to manufacture hardware with GPS functionality built-in. Between the two and a half dozen GPS satellites and your cellular network, you can run but you can't hide
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
Of course...

monakh said:
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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off-topic...
Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
Being able to find you at any time is an added perk but it needs court orders even if you have been reported and officially designated a "missing person". Getting such a court order can take many hours, being declared a missing person can take 24 hours up to 48 hours (depends on the country and exactly what reasons you have to believe the person in question is truely missing).

ZeBoxx said:
monakh said:
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
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Ahh yes, I stand corrected.
It's so we CAN make the call and are unable to state the location. That WOULD make sense. However, like you said, there are legal hurdles, although at least in the U.S., they are fewer and far between.

is there any ip address list out there which tells me which ip addresses are allocated to which country?
are ip addresses bunched like telephone numbers
e.g. +1 is north america
+3 and +4 is europe
+96 & +97 middle east

nope, that's not how they work
organisations can get an IP from their service provider, who get blocks from their service providers, who get bigger blocks from places like RIPE, who in turn get huge blocks from ARIN.
But if it's a specific IP you're interested in, try VisualRoute

Personal GPS tracking solution needed

Hello,
First, thank you in advance for any help that you may give. I am looking for a developer to write me a bit of software for personal use.
Basically, I would like an application that when it launches, it starts the GPS, gets the current location, and then sends this info via GPRS to a back end server. The server then sends back a list of html links that have been geocoded. The links are pushed back to the windows mobile device based on a pre-configured (and user definable) radius from the current location.
If anybody is interested in building this for me, I am willing to pay a reasonable fee. Please let me know.

A company I work for has such a solution just now in Beta Test. They will have a final version working within the next 2 weeks.
The Software should be free, but the service they include not (Map and Call Center).

"My location" - how exactly does it work?

Hi everyone!
You know everyone's worrying about privacy these days and I was just thinking about the "my location" service on our mobiles.
Does anyone know for sure how it works? As far as I know it seems to take the Cell ID and get the name and weather through an Internet connection. Is that right?
Which database is it connecting to? I know for sure that the place I live at isn't on accuweather, where the weather on Sense is usually taken from and the weather displayed under "my location" is different from the weather for the nearest place that's on accuweather.
Moreover is it possible to find out which data exactly is sent to that database (which seems to be something "Google" because you have to accept some terms initially)?

The phone masts send out a cellID which is passed to google and it triangulates you based on your nearest towers.
Rmour has it google has a huge database of tower names and locations, so once it has a location it can pull up a post code and pass that to accuweather to get back the weather for that area.
It seems that google dont have a complete list of cell id's, and some towers dont transmit their cellid, hence some areas giving my location problems.

google also uses the info for traffic updates and traffic congestion calculations

Is there a way to disable the my location?, i sort of found it in the tweaks thread but i dont understand how to do it.

gamecore said:
Is there a way to disable the my location?, i sort of found it in the tweaks thread but i dont understand how to do it.
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Just go to settings/location and you can disable it there.

you can do it in regstry.... current user/software/htc/manila.... enablecurrentlocation set to 0 (zero)

The database is by Google. It is supposed to be anonymous, as long as you don't turn Latitude on in Google maps. You can even store history of your location, but that is turned of by default, and can be controlled via web interface of your Google account.
Also note that your service provider can detect your location independently. In some countries this location can, or even must, be archived for some time.

Furthermore if you have Wifi enabled My Location will sniff for wireless packets and depending on the APs MAC addresses will be able to detemine a more accurate location as the Street View vans sniffed packets and uploaded MAC adresses along with GPS co-ordinates to aid their service.

since we're onto wifi sniffing etc for location finding, heres an off topic but interesting proof of concept page that can pin your home pc down to a pretty narrow area just from your home ip address, and which works using googles location service.
Its not nearly as acurate as the real location service, but still got my house to within 500 yards, using my virginmedia ip address.
http://samy.pl/mapxss/
Note test page is for firefox, but the exploit if done for real would work on all browsers.