Does Upgrading the Rom mean that I have to reinstall all my programs again? from scratch.?
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You have to back up all your data before doing a ROM update. Thereafter restore your previous apps.
Answer to your question, yes all data is wiped out during flashing of new ROM.
Then does Restoring..restore all my previous installed program?
No... after upgrading you cannot restore to a backup made before upgrading...sorry! :roll:
Is it possible to make a program which will collect all the programs' data, files & registry entries and save them, so later on, you can revert these programs to what they were before upgrading ROM?
I was thinking about a big CAB file which embeds sub CAB files (those will be the CAB files for all programs you want to install). This big CAB will install all the programs automatically without interference from user.
Any suggestions??
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I am considering upgrading my ROM for the first time.
If I do this do I loose all program installs and any registry changes I have made?
If I use Sprite Backup to back all to the storage card will this allow me to revert to the original ROM or am i just backing up programs?
To do the ROM upgrade do i just download the ROM and run the CAB file?
Sorry for the simplistic questions. I can find answers for complicated issues I've run into just not the basics
Yes,Upgrading to a new ROM will erase all settings on your PPC,generally it is not recommended to restore a backup from a previous versions,it may cause lock-ups,hard resets.
No Backup software is capable to save a ROM version,but you can use SD Method,try to search more on the Forum.
Good Luck!
for example from 1.52 to 1.56 rom..
will the rom upgrade option really preserve everything FLAWLESSLY ? and still not mess up the upgrade?
anyone tried? thanks!!
anyone please?
I tried it and it worked but with disabled overwrite system files function
so the new rom works and your programs? any failed?
Yes, i had only to reinstall the colored topbar.
walkergeri said:
Yes, i had only to reinstall the colored topbar.
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sorry what is the colored topbar
how about settings? are they restored? like cache size , backlight level, no start up animation.. stuff like that,,,
leobox1 said:
sorry what is the colored topbar
how about settings? are they restored? like cache size , backlight level, no start up animation.. stuff like that,,,
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not all, but this are little things to do again, more important for me was that i didnt need to reinstall all programs.
Problem is that on cooked ROMs always some system files are updated or replaced by better performing ones. If you restore your old files there is always a risk overwriting the newer files. It is recommended therefore to only back up personal data, and re-install programs used. You decide.
Lucas0511 said:
Problem is that on cooked ROMs always some system files are updated or replaced by better performing ones. If you restore your old files there is always a risk overwriting the newer files. It is recommended therefore to only back up personal data, and re-install programs used. You decide.
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i second this. even if your new rom runs after restoring your backup you have lost your registry data or overwritten newer system files.
so it is recommened to restore only your personal data an reinstall all those applications you want to use.
when you like to flash several roms to test your favourite one you should think about using sashimi. it´s a tool to autoconfigure your system after flashing.
leobox1 said:
for example from 1.52 to 1.56 rom..
will the rom upgrade option really preserve everything FLAWLESSLY ? and still not mess up the upgrade?
anyone tried? thanks!!
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I've tried this and it causes problems with new roms and softwares operation. If your restoring just restore PIM Backup i.e. emails, contacts etc and don't restore software, apps, registry settings.
In effect your puttings a better rom on with new registry settings when you upgrade from 1.52 to 1.56. But if your restore registry settings from 1.52 your overwriting these newer files which corrupts new rom
Fallen Spartan said:
I've tried this and it causes problems with new roms and softwares operation. If your restoring just restore PIM Backup i.e. emails, contacts etc and don't restore software, apps, registry settings.
In effect your puttings a better rom on with new registry settings when you upgrade from 1.52 to 1.56. But if your restore registry settings from 1.52 your overwriting these newer files which corrupts new rom
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but there is a function not to overwrite system files while backup.
walkergeri said:
but there is a function not to overwrite system files while backup.
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Exactly you don't override these. You just backup & restore PIM info, emails and possible some documents.
Leave System data unticked unless you know what your doing in the registry & databases
I would use a custom backup and just check the first 2 options PIM & email if your restoring betweening 2 different rom versions as you stated
arrghhh so this is not for me.. i wanted a solution in between upgrades.. i dont want to reinstall apps!
Don't get Lazy!
I think it would be unwise to take this sort of "Lazy" option for all the reasons mentioned previously. I have a stack of programs on mine and yet it only takes an hour or so to install these programs and then perhaps a day or 2 to setup and optimise the settings. Each of these programs may associate itself in a totally different manner from one ROM to the next....in short:
LAZY option: risky, might glitch up your operating systems
Re-install option: gives you the chance to setup and optimise to the new ROM
....know where I always start.....
Fallen Spartan said:
I've tried this and it causes problems with new roms and softwares operation. If your restoring just restore PIM Backup i.e. emails, contacts etc and don't restore software, apps, registry settings.
In effect your puttings a better rom on with new registry settings when you upgrade from 1.52 to 1.56. But if your restore registry settings from 1.52 your overwriting these newer files which corrupts new rom
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i completely agree with that!
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Does anyone know if it is possible to somehow save CoPilot and F-Secure which came preloaded in my device and I have since activated the subscriptions.
I thought about copying the program files, but im worried that I wont be able to revalidate the software after the handset has been flashed with a different ROM than of T-Mobiles.
Has anyone ever faced this before?
If you install another rom, cooked or backed you will loose all programs and data on your phone memory.
Just copying the program files folder won't do the job for saving the programs, you will need the registry settings also.
You can install the programs you need afterwards or try to find a cooked rom with those program pre-installed.
Hello Forum!
I would like to update Leo's ROM (HTC, German Stock-ROM) from 1.43.407.1 to 1.48.407.1. BUT, I don't want to install all programs and tweak my baby again (not to forget all the emails and outlook settings, SMS etc.). Is there a way of doing a backup, which can effectively "survive" a ROM update, or is this simply not possible without coruption? Normally I use Sprite Backup 6.5.5 for my phone backup, but it does not tell me to many things about what will happen if a backup would be applied to the phone after ROM update. By the way. I don't think Sprite Backup will backup the ROM itself but just the other data on the internal memory, does it?
Thank you in advance folks!
Studebaker
hi,
spritebackup is trying to be smart on restore, so you can chose how it should behaive on restoring after romupdate. when i remember it rigth there are 3 or 4 options to choose from when you start a restore, they are listed at there website and in the manual/helpfile.
Hello madbird,
Yes, I noticed that. I just want to make sure that it really does work even after ROM update. What I do not want is problems afterwards. Anybody tried already?
Thanks guys!
Studebaker
I have been using SPB Backup's ROM upgrade mode on my Polaris for restoring of my settings & applications over sequential ROM upgrades.
Apart from some minor issues it really saved me a lot of reconfiguring time.
Naturally I haven't been able to try it on Leo, since custom ROMs can't be flashed yet.
Studebaker72 said:
Hello Forum!
I would like to update Leo's ROM (HTC, German Stock-ROM) from 1.43.407.1 to 1.48.407.1. BUT, I don't want to install all programs and tweak my baby again (not to forget all the emails and outlook settings, SMS etc.). Is there a way of doing a backup, which can effectively "survive" a ROM update, or is this simply not possible without coruption? Normally I use Sprite Backup 6.5.5 for my phone backup, but it does not tell me to many things about what will happen if a backup would be applied to the phone after ROM update. By the way. I don't think Sprite Backup will backup the ROM itself but just the other data on the internal memory, does it?
Thank you in advance folks!
Studebaker
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In order to restore and at the same time 100% incorporate all changes introduced by the rom upgrade you need 2 additional procedures (apart from a backup software).
1) Overwrite the new registry over the old registry
2) Overwrite the new double copy files over the old double copy files.
The first Step can be easily done in the following way
After upgrading you install Resco Registry.
You export the entire registry.
You restore the old backup image
Finally you re-import the previously exported reg file.
This will overwrite all keys that were changed during the rom upgrade.
Regarding the second step, let me quickly explain to you what I mean with double copy files.
After hard resetting your device and during the first boot, a customization tool is running in the background that copies some files from the rom (and the windows folder) to the storage memory (and different folders).
If you restore the previous rom image, these files will be overwritten with old versions. You can partially overcome this issue if the double copy files are both found in the same directory (f.e. Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe in Windows folder).
In this case you delete the duplicated file in storage and apart from releasing some mbs of free space you also use the latest version, which always resides in rom. This procedure can not be followed with files and folders that are copied during the customization process from Windows folder to other folders.
In order to overcome this issue and to be able to restore a previous image incorporating at the same time all the changes introduced by the upgrade, we have to find a way and activate the customization tool after completing the restore process. In this way the double copy files will be re-overwritten with the newer ones.
Check also this thread.
Finally another way to rebuild your system without much effort is to setup Sashimi once and then use it to quickly reinstall everything.
Hello Step2p!
Thank you so much for taking some time for that really interesting answer. The registry, yes, I guesses that could be a problem. Please let me comment to your points, because I'm in no way an expert in that:
The first Step can be easily done in the following way:
-After upgrading you install Resco Registry. => OK
-You export the entire registry. => Ahm, OK...
-You restore the old backup image => Yes, because I want to have my tweaked registry from the "old" ROM back.
-Finally you re-import the previously exported reg file. => Ouch. Than my tweaked and modified entries will all be gone. Right?
This will overwrite all keys that were changed during the rom upgrade. => And also all the former ones will be overwriten by new ones??
Did I get that right? After your procedure my old tweaks will be history, just because the new registry that we will have remaining at last will be pure as snow. New and unmodified.
Thanks again,
Studebaker
Studebaker72 said:
Hello Step2p!
Thank you so much for taking some time for that really interesting answer. The registry, yes, I guesses that could be a problem. Please let me comment to your points, because I'm in no way an expert in that:
The first Step can be easily done in the following way:
-After upgrading you install Resco Registry. => OK
-You export the entire registry. => Ahm, OK...
-You restore the old backup image => Yes, because I want to have my tweaked registry from the "old" ROM back.
-Finally you re-import the previously exported reg file. => Ouch. Than my tweaked and modified entries will all be gone. Right?
This will overwrite all keys that were changed during the rom upgrade. => And also all the former ones will be overwriten by new ones??
Did I get that right? After your procedure my old tweaks will be history, just because the new registry that we will have remaining at last will be pure as snow. New and unmodified.
Thanks again,
Studebaker
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Yes, you will lose all system registry tweaks (but not 3rd party tweaks). Unfortunately it is almost impossible to have the latest registry without losing these tweaks.
But updating the registry is an important step, because many of the bug fixes are actually registry tweaks that we never find.
In order to overcome this issue you have 2 options
1) Use an application like BsB tweaks which allows you to quickly setup the main registry tweaks
2) Create a reg file (or better a cab file) with all the tweaks that you are doing. After importing the registry you can run it in order to re-overwrite the tweaks.
Oh yes, a cab file sounds great to restore my tweaks! I just have no idea how to do that. How to convert my registry tweaks into a cab file, is there some software available to do the trick? Sorry for my stupid questions, that's like rocket science for me....
WinCe CabManager is very easy to use.
If you find it difficult you can export your keys using Resco Registry and then join the individual keys using a text editor.
Yes! said:
I have been using SPB Backup's ROM upgrade mode on my Polaris for restoring of my settings & applications over sequential ROM upgrades.
Apart from some minor issues it really saved me a lot of reconfiguring time.
Naturally I haven't been able to try it on Leo, since custom ROMs can't be flashed yet.
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Hello Yes!
May I ask what kind of "minor issues" you are refering to?
Thank you!
Studebaker
Studebaker72 said:
Hello Yes!
May I ask what kind of "minor issues" you are refering to?
Thank you!
Studebaker
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Well, firstly i had some issues with the mail accounts.
After restoring in ROM upgrade mode all mail accounts were available and working. However it seemed like their configuration had not been fully restored.
When i wanted to modify an account (i.e. synch frequency) i had to completely reconfigure the accont, since its configuration wasn't there.
The issue only became noticeable when the account option need to be adjusted.
Secondly i also had the feeling (might be subjective) that the cycle of backing up, upgrading, restoring (in ROM upgrade mode), backing up (from previously restored rom), upgrading, restoring (in ROM upgrade mode) etc....pollutes the image somehow.
I have gone through the cycle for 5 or 6 upgrades without noticeable problems, but i'm not sure how it will behave after more cycles or after a major upgrade.
For so far i've only used ROM upgrade restores on my Polaris but i will try it on my Leo tonight.
I will post my findings here after upgrading.
Thank you, that is very interresting! Sprite Backup is a very powerful tool, no doubt! But to recover every little detail after a ROM update seems too good to be true. The registry scares me, the registry from the 1.48 might not be identical to the 1.43. But the backup will plaster all the old settings over it, can that be OK?? Who knows...
I am currently running the Elegancia 2.5 ROM, but I thought this might be a more general question about ROM's so I wanted to post it here.
I started with the Elegancia 2.0 and upon upgrading to the 2.5, I had to reinstall all my cabs (I save them to a specific folder on my SD card thankfully) and redo all my settings over again. Now that there is a 3.0 version out, I would like to upgrade that as well. However since there are so many settings and cabs that I have now changed and installed, I'd prefer not to go through and do it all again.
Is this possible or is it just the nature of the upgrades that require you to change and redo it all again?
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its my understanding that flashing erases everything except for the occasional system file left over from the previous ROM... my guess would be no... backup everything and reinstall... at max it'll only take a half hour to reinstall everything..
No way to change ROM's without losing all data...best thing for you to do is use an autoinstall program to resetup your device after a new flash....
mgioia2 said:
No way to change ROM's without losing all data...best thing for you to do is use an autoinstall program to resetup your device after a new flash....
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Hi, could you explain little bit more about the autoinstall program ? how does it work?
try xda_uc, google it. basically, you create a folder called xda_uc on your storage card, and when you first bootup, all the .cabs you add to the folder are installed in the background, and require no input from you. however, you need to find a rom that supports xda_uc. I use energyrom.
Isn't there any program like itunes for example for iPhone which backups and restores every setting. Any thought friends
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try spb backup...but it wont auto install everything back, but you do get to do some set up if you want as to what to restore.