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Pocket Plus and Xda II Lockups (1.66 ROM)

We have noted some strange locking up of our Xda II's over on the MTekk forums requiring a hard reset. We have a number of threads running at the moment but the main one is here.
I have been in touch with Spb about this and they inform me it is actually an HTC and MS issue. Below is their email response.
Hello David,
We do our best to fix this problem ASAP. We work hard with HTC and
Microsoft now on this problem.
But this problem occurs not only with Spb Pocket Plus but with other
programs too.
We have feedback from HTC and Microsoft about that (sorry, I cannot
disclosure more
details since it is information obtained from our partners).
So I am not sure we will be able to fix it in Spb Pocket Plus - probably
HTC will fix it in their ROM.
Spb Pocket Plus does not use any undocumented functions that can cause
such behavior.
Probably we will disable running Spb Pocket Plus on these devices at all
until HTC fixes this bug in ROM
Pocket Plus 1.x is not available online now but I can send it to you if you want via e-mail.
If you bought Pocket Plus 2.x and can't use it, you can always ask for refund.
If you have any questions, please, don't hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Margarita Bochkova
Customer Support Team
Spb Software House
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
Phone: +7 812 324 49 44
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It appears as though this issue could also be happening with version 1 of Pocket Plus on the 1.66 ROM (and some 1.72 ROM's too).
Thought you guys might like to know. Generally I find Spb products to be good, but it appears as though Spb are being blamed for this issue. I think this email help point the finger in the right direction.
Dave

Hi djwhyte
This is some strange stuff as I've been running Pocket Plus 2.0 for a few months and have recently installed 2.1 (just for the hell of it I think its only a VGA update from what I can see)... but have not had any problems on my XDA II before, hear are my details of my device if this helps:
ROM Version: 1.66.00WWE
ROM Date: 02/20/04
Radio Version: 1.08.00
Protocol Version: 1337.18
ExtROM Version: 1.66.165
The only thing I could think that I MIGHT be doing diferent is that I do not use the today screen pluging (I use all other features like repeating allarms and task mannager!) At the begining I did use the today screen and do not recall any problems as well I've taken it off because my today screen was getting to cluttered with other software I am running.
Not sure if this is going to help you but have to tired installing Pocket Plus with NO other applications installed after a hard reset? It might be a conflict with other software or even a totaly other product causing the problem? Not sure hope this can help you!
Regards
Fudge!

Pocket Plus 2 is installed in my wife's XDA2 with 1.66rom. its almost 3 weeks now and so far no problem. my XDA2's rom is only 1.60.

Hey thanks for info guys.
I will have to try without the today screen pluggin and see if makes any difference.
Boybi, your wifes Xda II which is on the 1.66 ROM, does it have the today screen plugin enabled?
Dave

is the Today Plugin the one where you can put battery and memory bars, and put some icons? if yes, then its enabled.

i too am having problems with the spb pocket plus v2.1 using xda2 with 1.66WWE ROM version. i get hang ups and the unit would do a hard reset. good thing i always do a backup of the contacts and appointments!

aside from Pocket Plus, what other Today Plugins can you guys recommend?

I was wondering what was the lockup caused by. I uninstalled the SPB GPRS and SPB Pocket Plus and now it's ok. No more lockup. I had to hard reset, but couldn't initial find the problem until the trial expired, weird. I guess that's why I bought it.

I find GPRS monitor is OK!!
I have a feeling the Today plugin is the cause as I have had no such crashes since I installed it again with the today screen disabled. What part of it I don't know though.
Boybi, which icons, sliders does your wife have enabled on the plugin?

One thing to note on this, is that SPB update their software silently and don't tell ya about it.
So get the latest build of PocketPlus and try again.
Cheers

my wife's XDA2 just locked-up today! can't turn it on even using soft reset. so i think its really the Pocket Plus! now i disabled the today plugin.

Ooooh Sorry Boybi, I hope I didn't curse you but that sounds like the lockup.
I have been running sweetly for three days without the Today screen plugin for PP2. How long did your wife have the Today screen showing before it locked up? Days? Weeks?
Cheers,
Dave

Possible LOCKUP?
DJWHYTE,
im using pocket plus ver 2.1 on a 1.66 ROM XDA II, just installed it 24 hours ago, no problems so far.
All featured ITEMS enabled, Today Plug-in, File Explorer enhancements, Pocket IE enhancement, Looping Alarm, etc..
Im very disturbed by what I just read in this thread, although I have experienced 1 LOCKUP, it happened while SPB Pocket Plus was NOT YET installed.
Can anyone please advise HOW LONG was the average time FROM installation of pocket plus DID the LOCKUP occur? and what your POCKET PLUS version and ROM versions are?
Certainly would put most of us at ease.
Cheers

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chameleon said:
DJWHYTE,
Can anyone please advise HOW LONG was the average time FROM installation of pocket plus DID the LOCKUP occur? and what your POCKET PLUS version and ROM versions are?
Certainly would put most of us at ease.
Cheers
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With my previous 1.66ITA it worked for about 3 months without troubles (PP 2.0 first and 2.1 later) .
After the upgrade to 1.72.04ITA no chance to install it anymore; it freezes and the only way out is hard resetting. :evil:
Spb team says that they are working on it... hope so, otherwise I will claim for my money back. :evil: :evil:
My experience up to now is that PP is white or black: it works or not, at all. In your case it works, so I would not worry too much... :roll:

Re: Possible LOCKUP?
dave said:
My experience up to now is that PP is white or black: it works or not, at all. In your case it works, so I would not worry too much... :roll:
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Good, now I can sleep better knowing my XDA 2 will still turn on tomorrow when I wake up. Thanks DAVE.
Any other observations out there?
I may DREAM better if there are, hehehe.

my wife's 1.66rom XDA2 runs with PP2.1 for 2 weeks without any problems until yesterday.

maybe other apps?
boybi,
pre,
maybe another app caused the lockup? you havent installed anything new in those two weeks? may i please know what your apps are?
mine are:
1. pocket plus 2.1
2. my calendar
3. pocket zen
4. flash player activeX
5. morphgear
6. calendar plus
7. pocket translator
8. pencil box
9. calc98 and aidem calc
10. betaplayer
11. SB check notifications.
12. vbirthday
just want to know for comparison AND app finger-pointing.
thanks.

I too have had the problem
Ever since I installed the Spb PocketPlus ver 1.x and onward I have had that problem. It occurs rarely but often enough to annoy me (1-2 times/month). It seems to make no difference if I disable the Today screen. I have removed it now. I don't have much other software on it, except for Destinator 3 and a painting program. I won't return to PocketPlus until the issue is solved.
Johan

sbp
The italian localized 2.1 will not work on the 1.72 ROM, to make it works you need to install the 2.0 and after it the 2.1.
No problems at all

Re: maybe other apps?
chameleon said:
boybi,
pre,
maybe another app caused the lockup? you havent installed anything new in those two weeks? may i please know what your apps are?
mine are:
1. pocket plus 2.1
2. my calendar
3. pocket zen
4. flash player activeX
5. morphgear
6. calendar plus
7. pocket translator
8. pencil box
9. calc98 and aidem calc
10. betaplayer
11. SB check notifications.
12. vbirthday
just want to know for comparison AND app finger-pointing.
thanks.
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ito lang mga nakainstall:
1. spb pocket plus 2.1
2. pocketzenphone
3. sprite backup 3.0
4. sprite pocketmon (today plugin disabled)
5. uBook
the memory card i have ordered for my wife's XDA2 just arrived that's why i haven't installed a lot of programs in her unit.

Warning about Wisbar Advance

Just a warning for anybody with a Jam or any mobile PDA..
Do NOT install wisbar advance, it's one of the most popular pocket PC programs, but it actually stops the phone from ringing after a few minutes and you cannot receive incoming calls.
They are currently developing a new version especially for mobile PDA's.
Just thought id let you know as it caused me a lot of problems until I found it was wisbar causing the problem.

Only the phone edition of wisbar, in alpha stage, has this problem. :wink:

Hi Jacoch, that is incorrect.
The mobile edition is being developed because of the problem with wisbar advance on mobile PDA devices.
Wisbar advance was meant for PDA not PDA running windows mobile.
I purchased wisbar 2 and it had that problem.
Wisbar mobile edition has lots of problems too as its in alpha.
If you have a jam, feel free to install wisbar advance 2 and open then phone app, and make a call, then try to receive one your phone simply wont ring.

it not happen with standard Phone program & happen with some Phone Extra program (like Intelli Dialer....)

I noticed the same.. I've tried Wisbar Advance 2.0.1.9 on my T-Mobile MDA Compact (without any of the extended rom stuff like intellidialer installed) and it won't ring while running wisbar.. The phone will turn itself on upon receiving a call but there is no ringtone and the phone application doesn't show..

I noticed the same.. I've tried Wisbar Advance 2.0.1.9 on my T-Mobile MDA Compact (without any of the extended rom stuff like intellidialer installed) and it won't ring while running wisbar.. The phone will turn itself on upon receiving a call but there is no ringtone and the phone application doesn't show..
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Exactly the same with mine.
The creator of the wisbar 2 is aware of the problem and thus created the mobile edition.
Its obvious really that it would cause problems, because it wasnt created with phone calls in mind.
It will run perfectly on a normal pocket pc

hey guys i am usin xda II installed wisbar advance only caz i wanted to use the aqua mac theme ne ways...was very disappointed to find out that it doesnt ring and blah blah.....but last nite what happed was i left my xda II running in wisbar mode and the phone was locked and guess what in the morning it started ringing it self when i got up it was askin me for a password as it gets locked after 5 mins and by the time i unlocked it call was cancelled and i could see the miss call on top.... and the thing was actually ringing for a surprise.... !!
regards
jeetz

I use IcBar (it is based on wisbar api). I think it creats some of delay when someone calls me.
am I wrong??

UPDATE:
Chris over at wisbar has now released a beta version that is very stable and the phone rings, you must download the beta version from the forums. Make sure you choose the WM2003 SE download.
Along with Pocket Plus it's the best program for pocket PC. I love it.
I purchased SWdeluxe theme, expensive but wow my phone looks simply amazing!!

ok its just damn great...... !! awesome news.... !! buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut... it has some minor graphic issues....BUTTTTTTT i dont mind that as long as i can use my aqua mac theme along with my xda II RINGING !!!

zairyaab said:
ok its just damn great...... !! awesome news.... !! buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut... it has some minor graphic issues....BUTTTTTTT i dont mind that as long as i can use my aqua mac theme along with my xda II RINGING !!!
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i change ma words.......would rather wait for a official release this one has loaaaaaaddddddddz of BUGGGGGSS !! majorly GRAPHICS

maverick_uk said:
UPDATE:
Chris over at wisbar has now released a beta version that is very stable and the phone rings, you must download the beta version from the forums. Make sure you choose the WM2003 SE download.
Along with Pocket Plus it's the best program for pocket PC. I love it.
I purchased SWdeluxe theme, expensive but wow my phone looks simply amazing!!
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Hi Maverick!
About the download of the stabil beta, where do you find that one?
Got a link?
I tried the "phone edition alpha", but those were VERY instable on my S100.
Thanks, Hejko
Edit: Or, were your copy the same one as I tested?

Hejko, go to http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1425 and download the version for wm2003se its very stable.

maverick_uk said:
Hejko, go to http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1425 and download the version for wm2003se its very stable.
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is it the phone version does the phone ring and notify in this version ?? and is this compatible with xda II ?? i tried phone edtion alpha v.4 i guess and had major graphics problem
regards
jeetz

The latest beta version solve this problem ..
Get it there ] http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1425
works perfectlly !!

Ok I'm fairly confused about what Wibar Advance Software I should be downloading.
When on the Lakeridge Website there is a section for Wisbar PPC Phone Edition, but the product listed there is relatively ol, 12-04, and is called an alpha.
Minotavrs,
The Beta you provide the link for does not indicate that this Wisbar Advance is applicable to the Phone Edition, however, I took your advice and I have installed it on my JAM. So far no big issues. I called myself and the phone rang. I noticed when in the Phone Pad Program that you cannot exit from the phone-pad unless you hit the end-call button.
Besides that, at least thus far, this Wisbar Avance (isbaradv2.20112.xscale), appears to work great with my JAM.
So far I'm very impressed. I have never used wisbar, because I have always had a PPC-PE devices and Wisbar would never work with these types of devices.
So-is the Wisbar Advance 2 that I list above made for PPC-PE devices or is the new Advanced 2 Wisbar application just providing extra support for PPC-PE devices?

Minotavrs said:
The latest beta version solve this problem ..
Get it there ] http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1425
works perfectlly !!
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does this work as a phone edition and does the phone ring if yes then please can someone post the cab file here as the link is broken here http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1425
thanks
jeetz

I just tried the link and it works.
It does work on the Phone Edition.
Some of the phone profiles are missing still.
Signal strength and others.
Still very nice app.

coooool this version works......phone rings too.....notification comes too.....only prob as stated above.....ICONS !!
please keep this thread updated when ever theres any news about wisbar advance phone edition.
thanks
regards
jeetz

wisbar advance does ring!!!
everybody i have instaled wisbar advannced on my pda 02 xda minni and it dose ring i tryed it lots of times and it worked all times so i don't know it might be just your version of wisbar you guys have because my version works awsame

no sound by incomin calls after setup wisbar advanced 2

hi all,
i've got the problem that my jam doesn't ring the bell by incoming calls. After incoming call ends, i can see on my jam unsanswered call sign.
After unsinstall wisbar advanced 2, the ring bells by incoming calls. Can anbody help?

wis BAR!!!
so... here is the solution! REMOVE THIS PROGRAM.. this program is designed for standar pocket pc's and PDA's. Not for ppc Phone editions!!! i had the same problem with my O2 xda 2 mini

I'm not sure how relevant this is but I use the XDaIIi which I think is the same model as yours, if so you need to get the beta version of WA2. I would suggest 2.0.1.17 beta, this is because it was designed to work with this generation of PPC/phones. There are other versions available but I,m not sure of their stability. I have tried the very latest and it kept losing my today screen shortcuts SPB etc..
Anyway hope this wasn't too long a ramble. WA is an excellent piece of software highly recommended.
Pete

i use wisbar advanced 2.2017 version. so i'm wondering why the new version doesn't work. ok i will look for the 2.0.1.17 beta. i hope it will work. thx.

Re: wis BAR!!!
vaggelis said:
so... here is the solution! REMOVE THIS PROGRAM.. this program is designed for standar pocket pc's and PDA's. Not for ppc Phone editions!!! i had the same problem with my O2 xda 2 mini
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I have it on my Imate Jam and it works fine. You have to use the latest version which can be found at Lakeridge Software Forums.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3077
@ vaggelis:
It seems you are not up to date with Wisbar Advanced 2 so i think you shouldn't say such things, when you don't have full information, cause this is misleading for others.

same problem with 2.0.17 beta version. now i will look for the newest version in the link that xcilion gave. thx. xcilion.

heureka ,it works.
thanks xcilion

serhataga said:
heureka ,it works.
thanks xcilion
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Glad to hear that . Your welcome.

No One Has This!!! - Do not afraid of HardReset after this..

Hi friends, i am looking for a complete cloning solution for my Atom.
I found SBP Clone 1.5 and Sprite Clone 5 that works WM5.
Has anyone got that programs? If someone uploads one of them i will be very very happy...
Backup programs are not enough for me. I only need cloning the device.
Pls help guys...

Cheap Guy!
If you know the names you must surely know where to buy them :twisted:

http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=16490
http://www.spritesoftware.com/clone.php

is it possible to install windows mobile 5?

Hi,
sorry if this has been asked before, i searched but found nothing specific so here goes.
i have been asked by my bro-in-law to downgrade his t-mobile mda compact v to wm5 so he can use the apps he needs to use for his job as a sky satellite engineer.
apart from ruining a perfectly good phone, i'm afraid that it will run like poo and crash often.
so, is there a way to install a wm5 rom to this handset and where do i find a compatible rom?
any help is greatly appreciated
thanks
ave'

i dont think thats possible, but the apps he use should work in wm6 too.
i use apps from wm2003 and wm5 in wm6 so that wouldn't be a problem i think

cheers mate,
i will try that route and see how it goes.

ever tried looking for an old phone that still running wm5 at ebay?