Activesync via bluetooth problem-Bluetooth OK/ActiveSync NOT - Networking

First off I am using Widcomm version 1.4.3.4 on the PC and the Widcomm bluetooth manager for the pocketpc on my I-mate Pocket PC (Newest I-Mate official ROM 1.52WWE)
I followed directions according to:
http://home.comcast.net/~spam-target/activesyncz.html
Pairing, connecting, everything goes perfectly.
However, when activesync starts "Connecting..." it never connects and instead says Microsoft ActiveSync cannot recognize this device for one of two reasons:
The device was not connected properly... blah blah blah
This device is not a Smartphone or Pocket PC.
I have even tried all the other COM ports in the Connection Settings for ActiveSync. I have also tried the default bluetooth stack built in to Pocket PC 2003 instead of the widcomm one and the Connect via Bluetooth... option in the Pocket PC ActiveSync. I have also tried installing the Pocket Bluetooth Tools and nothing works.
Everything else I have tried on bluetooth works (network play of mp3/avi/ogg - Network Access, sending/receiving files - Browse files on a remote device, etc.)

I had similar issues (but wasn't following any instructions )
This fixed it for me:
On XDA II, start ActiveSync, click on tools, then on options, then on options (on options screen), check "Enable PC Sync using this connection", and select 'Bluetooth is box below. (I also select "maintain connection" radio button.)
I know this page says "When cradled", but these settings were required to get uncradled bluetooth to work on my i-mate.
ll&p

dkillk said:
I had similar issues (but wasn't following any instructions )
This fixed it for me:
On XDA II, start ActiveSync, click on tools, then on options, then on options (on options screen), check "Enable PC Sync using this connection", and select 'Bluetooth is box below. (I also select "maintain connection" radio button.)
I know this page says "When cradled", but these settings were required to get uncradled bluetooth to work on my i-mate.
ll&p
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I've the same problem, but in the box "Enable pc Sync using this connection" I haven't Bluetooth choice, but only USB and serials speed.
Does Anyone know why?
Thank's..

i had the same problems
I had the same problems with mine, except i had allready tired what dkillk suggested, to no avail. I still got the standard
"cant start comms... port not available...may B in use or invalid...quit any progs useing it & reconnect...try restart..."
error message, evan when soft rebooting the XDA 2 & going straight in2 sync prog.
any1 got any more ideas?
Smiley :-(

Connect to the bluetooth serial port, then try doing activesync

XDA2 Bluetooth and activesync
Oh what a minefield this is. However:
I have just today finally got BT activesync working. I had to upgrade my Acer notebook widcomm stack to 1.4.3.4 courtesy of Jon Scaife and his very helpful site. Then I was able to pair my XDA2 successfully. I had to jerk around with settings to get activesync to launch when connecting from XDA. Firstly it would connect using com5 but activesync did not auto launch despite settings being correct. But after randomly enabling and disabling settings and ending up at square 1 it sparked up??
Anyone getting 'port not available/in use etc' errors must set the bluetooth com port to 'Startup Automatically'. Goto Control Panel/Bluetooth Config/Local Services/Bluetooth Com Port Properties.
Alternatively, you can enable it manually before attempting activesync.

"Anyone getting 'port not available/in use etc' errors must set the bluetooth com port to 'Startup Automatically'. Goto Control Panel/Bluetooth Config/Local Services/Bluetooth Com Port Properties.
Alternatively, you can enable it manually before attempting activesync."
This is a path on your PDA or your computer ?[/code]

And another question : i have downloaded the widcomm stack to 1.4.3.4 but it only install on the computer !
Yet on other website there are some PDA screen captures showing the widcomm stack !
This is such a mess i've spent hours trying to figure out how to make my BT working... once again, as long as you do simple things with the XDA, everything is OK, when you try more features, it does not work. I regret not buying a well known brand like HP where you have all explained and all the appropriate drivers

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Bluetooth activesync - Can it Really be This Difficult????

I'm using - Dell laptop with integrated Dell bluetooth, XDA2 with original 1.03 rom, ActiveSync 3.7.1, Windows XP+SP2. I *AM* able to: synchronize fine with USB cradle, synchronize with IR, and beam files directly to the XDA2 from the laptop via bluetooth.
I have successfully: removed all traces of Widcomm, removed and reinstalled the plain old XP/SP2 BT drivers, have removed the pairings and re-created the device pairings successfully, removed and re-created the incoming COM port, renumbered my incoming COM port to 3, set ActiveSync to 'allow serial connection' to COM3, turned off XDA infrared, tried out "Pocket Bluetooth Tools" too, disabled my firewall. I moved my modem from COM3 to COM13. All the devices are 'working properly' according to control panel. Bluetooth switched to 'On' on XDA, once already paired. Bluetooth Devices/Options/Connections/Allow BT devices to connect is ticked.
Now I have tried to connect as documented in the many webpages on this subject, including GeekZone:
A. On the desktop - ActiveSync/File/Get connected... gives the message 'looking for mobile device on IR and COM3' but then nothing happens. After failing, it shows the list, and COM3 is 'available'.
B. On the XDA2 - Start/Settings/System/Bluetooth settings/Start activesync setup - gives message 'Please bond with device supporting serial port' - then takes me to the bonding screen. But I am already bonded successfully!
C. On the XDA2 - ActiveSync/Tools/Connect via BT with 'Laptop' - gives the message 'Cannot start communications with the desktop computer, critical error 608'.
As the pessimistic bobopopo recommended, I tried doing these last things repeatedly in every possible order!
Possible clues as to the problem:
1. I can't get the bluetooth icon to come up in the system tray. It comes up temporarily if I uninstall and reinstall the XP-SP2 drivers, then goes away next time I reset - even though the item 'Show the BT icon in the notification area' is always checked.
2. The first time I make a pairing, the word 'connected' appears below the icon for my XDA2 in the "Bluetooth Devices" dialog, on XP. Once it goes away, thereafter I am unable to get it to say 'connected' again. How can I get it to connect?
3. First time I bonded I got the Pocket Bluetooth Tools profiles dialog on the XDA2 - and ticked all the boxes, including serial port. Now I can't seem to get that screen back again?
4. On the XP machine, if I go to Control panel/Bluetooth Devices/Devices, select the XDA2 that is paired, then Properties/Services, I get only 'Dial up networking', and no exciting stuff like COM, OBEX, audio, PAN etc. - is this right?
5. If I go to Control Panel/Bluetooth Devices/COM ports/Add/Outgoing, and put Browse.., it searches for a while then says 'Windows cannot find any Bluetooth devices. Make sure it is switched on' etc.. although the device is clearly visible. So I can't create an outgoing COM port.
6. Can't beam files from XDA2 to Laptop: though XDA can see the other machine when you try to pair, it can't see it when you go to File/Send To/Infrared recipient - just empty dialog 'Searching...' forever. ('Accept incoming beams' is on and Bluetooth is on.)
????? Is it me or is it Microsoft ?????
mate,
reading through your post (although don't consider me an expert on this) it appears that you have the same problems i had before. bottomline? i discovered that windows xp service pack 2 screws up installation of bluetooth software. took me ages to figure this out but what i did was uninstall sp2 and went for sp1 instead. i've read several posts here and in other sites that sp2 doesn't really do well for bt apps...not sure if this is the same for the other chaps but it sure was for me. anyway; i uninstalled all bt software, uninstalled sp2; installed sp1 (reboot, etc), and from there proceeded with reinstalling my bt and activesync apps. from there i followed the guide given in geek zone and presto bt activesync.
the items you described in 1-6 definitely remind me of the sp2 trouble i had.
hope that helps.
cheers mate
I found that if I use the cradle to link to activesync this will create the partnership, then use the bluetooth next time and it will work, it seems you cannot get an original partnership over bluetooth.
I don't think its SP2 itself thats the problem. Its the Microsoft bt stack built into SP2.
You can actually run SP2 and the Widcomm bt stack. If you install Widcomm before SP2, then it won't install the Microsoft bt stack. I had the same problem and this resolved it.
The Microsoft bt stack in SP2 is Microsoft's first attempt at bluetooth. Looks like they still have work to do.
JD
Bluetooth activesync is easy IF YOUR NOT in Windows XP SP2!!! best thing to do is to downgrade to SP1.. unfortunately for me im stuck with SP2 in my desktop... but upon discovering this problem i never upgraded my laptop to SP2.. i left it with SP1 nd everything works in harmony...
MORAL LESSON OF THE STORY: NEVER UPDATE TO XP-SP2 if your using bluetooth activesync. :wink:
I've had no problems syncing over BT with SP1, SP2 MS stack and widcomm.
Here's how.
First of all delete any pairings on both PC and XDA.
Sync over USB then on the computer use connection settings to select the correct BT com port.
On the XDA goto Settings->System->Bluetooth->Start
Now repair your device and select ok till you get back to today screen
Goto activesync and then tools->sync over bt
Always has worked for me. If you're still having problems its quite possible that you haven't got the right ports setup on the PC.
YUP! it's all about the COM ports... SP2 gives out extremely high COM ports that activesync doesnt recognize...
Is your PC using...
1. SP2 + MS bluetoooth stack
2. SP2 + Widcomm bluetooth stack
I've followed the method laid out by fruitloaf many times, and only the 2nd combination works for me.
You might also want to consider upgrading from rom 1.03 if you can.
JD
fruitloaf said:
I've had no problems syncing over BT with SP1, SP2 MS stack and widcomm.
Here's how.
First of all delete any pairings on both PC and XDA.
Sync over USB then on the computer use connection settings to select the correct BT com port.
On the XDA goto Settings->System->Bluetooth->Start
Now repair your device and select ok till you get back to today screen
Goto activesync and then tools->sync over bt
Always has worked for me. If you're still having problems its quite possible that you haven't got the right ports setup on the PC.
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Fruitloaf, is yours an original Orange machine? I've heard this works with SP2 + MS stack, but the O2 Xda II doesn't.
JD
I had this problem constantly with my XDA II and a Toshiba Laptop. All routes of advice came to nought.
The answer for me was to install Pocket Bluetooth Tools, a BT connection manager which has a specific Activesync Profile. Using this has enabled me to use BT A/S with my Win XP Tablet SP2 PC without problems. You have to initiate the Activesync process from the XDA though.
Once you have installed BT Tools, and created an A/S profile using the cradle, go back to the XDA and delete all existing BT Pairings. Then go through the "Bluetooth / Paired Devices/ New routine again. After finding your PC, continuing will give a new Dialogue box with available pairing options. Select "Activesync" and finish. Do a soft reset.
From there, go to Start/Activesync, then tap Tools/Connect via Bluetooth and all should work.
I recommend using PBT Tols version 1.0.1.2 not the newer version, as the later version causes some power management problems with the XDA II.
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bluetooth virtual com port too high for activesync
I have a Belkin F8T001 v2 BT USB dongle. BT was working under win xp sp2 and could transfer file etc from PC to XDA IIs and back.
However I tried setting up a BT active sync connection and had the problem that the virtual com port picked by the belkin supplied widcomm BT driver was too high for activesync, it was com20. I followed this thread but could not uninstall the driver and use the driver from SP2 as it doesn't seem to support my belkin USB BT dongle. So I had to go back to the driver supplied by Belkin. I thought I was stuffed until I came across a post that sorted the problem, I'm afraid I dont have it to hand to give author the credit. But here is what he/she said to do.....
1. Disable bluetooth in device manager and remove the high numbered com port from device manager.
2. Then use regedit to change
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\COM name arbiter"
I followed the instructions and changed the first 3 entries in theComDB field to be "0f".
3. Enable Bluetooth in device manager
4. Use bluetooth settings -> local servies to add a new COM port, then set it to autostart in the profiles section.
This time it came up as com5, and bingo activesync could find it and I was off....
Hope this helps others with this problem, usual disclaiamer when fiddling with registry back it up and dont blame me if it doesn't work or your equipment goes up in smoke
Good luck, Wayne
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=3163
this guide works just fine for me
Marc MD said:
YUP! it's all about the COM ports... SP2 gives out extremely high COM ports that activesync doesnt recognize...
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That's is my problem, the high COM ports are not recognised by ActiveSync! I think i have 2 downgrade to SP1 and then upgrade again to SP2, hopefully that will work.
The BT drivers is not my problem but it's impossible to select the com port in activesync (but the com ports are visible in the device manager!).
Thanks to this forum for geving me hope , now i know what the problem is.
If you read my post with the registry change above I think you will find it will solve your problem, as I stated this was the only problem I was having with the BT driver.
This is a lot simpler than downgrading to SP1 etc.
AT last I done with this help and use widcomm Bluetooh Software 1.4.2 bulid 10 now my active snc work great with winxp sp2and wm2003se ..
just flow the thats:.....
This issue may occur because the Bluetooth drivers that are provided by Microsoft support a different set of profiles than the drivers that are provided by some third-party vendors. The Microsoft-provided drivers are also signed and will therefore be installed instead of a third-party driver for supported Bluetooth adapters. The Windows XP SP2 Setup program will try to detect if a third-party driver is present. If the third-party driver is installed, the Microsoft-provided Bluetooth drivers will not install. This action makes sure that an existing configuration is not modified. If both provided drivers were installed, and the Bluetooth Radio were connected to the computer, the Microsoft-provided driver would load because it is signed.
If the missing functionality is critical, you may restore the third-party support. To do this, follow these steps.
Note The following steps assume that the third-party software is installed. If it is not, install the software according to the manufacturer's instructions. Then follow these steps from the point in the installation process where the adapter is connected to the computer.
1. Click Start, and then click Run, type devmgmt.msc, and then click OK.
2. Locate and then expand Bluetooth Radios.
3. Right-click the Bluetooth adapter, and then click Properties.
4. On the Driver tab, click Update Driver.
5. Install the updated driver manually by using the Have disk option in the wizard. Locate the manufacturer's installation files, and then find the .inf file that is required to install the driver.
6. Complete the manufacturer's software installation steps.
At this point, the third-party provided drivers should work. If at any point you re-enumerate the Bluetooth adapter, the Microsoft driver will be reinstalled, and you must repeat the procedure. This issue will occur only if the third-party driver is removed or if another model adapter installed.
thats link is for bluetooth software v 1.4.2.10
http://asia.giga-byte.com/Communication/FileList/Driver/btd01.v.1.4.2.10.zip
i've tried everything but it still gives out high COM ports...
Marc MD said:
i've tried everything but it still gives out high COM ports...
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Go to device Manager, find those high Com Ports, choose Properties - Advanced and at the COM port number choose a low one, Like COM3 etc. Don't bother if it say that it is alreaddy in use...
The go to Active Sync and in the Connection Settings choose from the drop down menu COM 3...
Go to the Activesync in you XDA, in the Options choose connect using Bluetooth and the... click on Connect via Bluetooth from the XDA...
You're done...
I have an O2 Xda II Mini (Magician) and I am using an XMicro Dongle on my laptop (Win XP with SP2) and ActiveSync3.8. Initially syncing with BT was a problem but now its not a problem at all.
To reduce the COM port nos. on your computer try the following website
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315539
Once you can see the hidden devices and ports delete/uninstall all the ports which are not in use.
1 To sync with BT first delete all your pairing with your computer and phone on both devices.
2 Go to BT Manager on your phone and click both check boxes for Inbound and Outbound COM ports and pair the devices.
3 Once they are paired go to BT manager again and click on the start button (for BT activesync setup) and pair the devices again if you have to.
4 Once that is done check on the computer in BT Manager click on the phone device>property>services....the Serial Port Profile (SPP) "Serial Port COM4" will be checked.
5 After that on the computer's BT Manager itself ensure that the COM ports folder shows incoming and outgoing ports with the phone's name in front.
6 On the ActiveSync (on the ocmputer) ensure that the COM port no. is the same as the Incoming COM port no. given in step 5 above and it being shown as available. Sometimes if it is unavailable, the computer needs to be rebooted and then it will be shown as available.
7 Click on ActiveSync thru BT on the phone and it should work.
It has been working for me since the past couple of weeks. Initially it took a lot of time to set up but now even if the pairing gets deleted or something messes up its working fine. One thing to remember is that in case you are using a dongle with a laptop ensure that the dongle is plugged in BEFORE you boot up the laptop. A lot of people plug it in later and then ActiveSync on the computer shows the COM ports as unavailable.
Hope this helps.

M500 / Magician - Cut Down Bluetooth?

Hi,
A few days ago i bought an Orange SPV M2000 (the big PDA sized phone by Orange in the UK). It was £150 ($250) more than the M500 (also know as the Magician), so when i managed to sucessfully create a bluetooth LAN connection on the M2000 and run Skype over it, i decided the extra £150 spent for the Wifi feature was a waste of money so i took it back and got a M500 / Magician instead.
However the M500 doesn't seem to have all the standard bluetooth features. Most noticably the Bluetooth Connection wizard needed to create a bluetooth LAN Connection. The wizard is part of the Bluetooth Manager software.
Does the M500 have a cut down version of the M2000's Windows Mobile software?
Is the M500's bluetooth not capable of a LAN connection?
If I install the latest BigStorage ROM, will it give me the Bluetooth Manager software?
I've attached 2 images of the M2000's Bluetooth Manager software which seems to be missing from my M500.
Any help would be much appreciated?
Neil
the magician uses microsoft's bluetooth stack which is not as good as the widcomm/broadcomm stack found on your other phone, i think there is still a way to connect to a bluetooth lan but you will have to do some searching on the forum.
or
you could by the cheap wifi card from ebuyer like many magician users have and use wifi.
good luck
Rob
Thanks Rob for the suggestion of using Wifi, but if i use the SD slot for a Wifi card, it won't be free for an extra Memory card.
I've had a look around on the forums and haven't been able to find a solution for this yet. Can the widcomm / broadcomm stack be installed into the magician?
If anyone has any other solutions please let me know. Is the M500 / Magician cut down in any other ways? My M500 is still within its 14 day return period so if its not capable of running most Windows Mobile 2003 software i'd rather get my money back.
Bluetooth:
You don't need to create a bluetooth lan connection.
You need to create a virtual serial (com) port with your bluetooth dongle on your PC. Eg Port 7.
Get that set up, then set activesync settings to search the serial port as a connection.
Then on your Magician go to Start > Settings > System > Bluetooth settings.
Click the bottom two boxes, and then click the middle button "start button to setup".
Then this will take you to Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth.
Here click on Turn on blueooth, make device discoverable, then tab "Devices", search for a new device (ie your pc), create a bond, set up a passcode (0000 etc), your pc should then show a balloon to say your phone is trying to make a connection and requires a pin. Set that Pin to 0000. Your phone should now bond with the PC.
Next open up Activesync on your PPC, and click Tools menu, Connect via bluetooth.
Hopefully, all being well, you should now connect to your pc via bluetooth.
You should be able to browse the internet, and if you can do that (if on your PC you've got internet pass thru on your activesync), you can use skype.
WIFI:
Bigstorage rom will not change your PPC stack; its exactly the same rom as your original, but with more "Storage" memory. However, I use this, copy any Net only apps to my "storage" and can then pop out my SD Card, put in my wifi, and still have access to all my net apps + wifi. I don't use storage for anything else. Wifi is faster than Bluetooth, but both methods work.
Options:
Have a look for the Blue Soleil threads - this is the Bluetooth stack i use on my PC, but you don't need it. It doesn't do much more than you can do now, and certainly not to apply the above info.
V
Thanks for the reply vijay555,
i too am using the IVT BlueSoleil bluetooth software. Downloaded the latest eval version from their site.
After following your instructions its still not working, but it appears to be almost there. I'll explain what i've done.
In BlueSoleil bluetooth propertiesi've turned Serial Port A (port 6) off and left SerialPort B (port 7) on. All the other services are on their defaults.
I right click the tray icon and exit it. then restart t make sure the services take on the new settings. (must be an easier way to reset services).
I open ActiveSyncs "Connection Settings" and if i select Com7 the Status reads: Com port is not available.
All your PPC side instructions seem to work, but of course it fails to sync with ActiveSync.
Any idea why the virtual port isn't being seen as working? I'm using Active Sync 3.8 & BlueSoleil 1.6.1.4
Thanks Neil
i have nothing to say that helps you further, but just wanted to say that i've had such a hard time doing anything via bluetooth on this phone that its extremely disappointing. after a slew of ipaqs, this is so counter-intuitive and i can't get nothing working via bluetooth, most notably GPRS with a laptop.
sucks....and i feel for ya
futurity- I think for some reason I decided to use the WIDCOMM bluetooth software on my PC. It was a LOT of work, so many reboots and required a safe-mode hack, but supposedly better. From memory, the bluesoleil looked much nicer. There's no reason why a simple serial port shouldn't work.
Try on your PC checking My computer > (right click) properties > device manager > com ports to ensure either Com port 7 is on, activated, or being used by something else.
Try changing to com port 6?
If you double click on the serial port in bluesoleil I presume you get properties showing it's available and ready for use?
Bluetooth does work, and for me: I live in a block of flats and I've got the wifi card, which is painless (although it had problems, described elsewhere on the board!). However, I've got 3 wifi signals inteferring from neighbours and I can't get online from one room away from my router. But the bluetooth signal works for about 10m, through walls and doors, so for me it's a cheap and easy solution. The hardest bit was setting up WIDCOMM, so I only recommend it if you like going to the dentist.
Reply if you sorted it/having troubles.
V
Got it working using Windows XP im built Bluetooth drivers
Hi chaps,
Got it working using Windows XP im built Bluetooth drivers. My setup procedure is still flaky though so I aim to sort it out on a clean machine until i perfect it. Only draw back is that you have to log into a user accout in order to use the Bluetooth / Activesync internet access option.
I'll most likely make the next postin gon Tuesday.
Regards
Neil
Ok, I've finally had time to get the sequence perfected after setting this up about 10 times (most of them failures).
Here is the working procedure, based heavily on the previous posted procedure with some more detailed instructions that worked for me.
PC Bluetooth:
First off you don't need to create a bluetooth lan connection in order to get LAN or Internet access. We're setting up Internet access via the ActiveSync Proxy.
Install your Bluetooth interface into your PC (for me i just plugged in my Bluetooth USB dongle and it installed using XP drivers, but you may need to install specific software).
On your PC task bar (bottom right next to the time) click on the blue Bluetooth icon (called Bluetooth devices on my PC)
Select "COM Ports", then add, then select "Incoming (device initiates the connection)" then OK. This creates an inbound connection that the Magician can use to talk to the ActiveSync Program.
Note the COM port number of the newly created COM port.
PC ActiveSync:
Open ActiveSync
Select File->Connection Settings
Select the "Allow serial cable or infrared connection to this COM port:" and select the port number that you just created.
Magician Bluetooth:
Select Start > Settings > System > Bluetooth settings.
Select the "Inbound COM port:" box.
Then Select the "Outbound COM port:" box. If it asks you to select a device providing a serial interface, click ok,
Then this will take you to Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth. but for now close this window by clicking the top right "ok" to close the window. i.e. don't select a new device quite yet.
The Bluetooth settings page should now reappear.
Now press the "Start" button in the middle of the page. Press ok to accept the prompt to select a device providing a serial activesync interface.
Then this will take you to Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth again.
Here click on Turn on blueooth, make device discoverable, then tab "Devices", search for a new device (ie your pc), create a bond, set up a passcode (0000 etc), your pc should then show a balloon to say your phone is trying to make a connection and requires a pin. Set that Pin to 0000. Your phone should now bond with the PC.
Magician Active Sync:
Next open up ActiveSync on your PPC, and click Tools menu, Connect via bluetooth.
Hopefully, all being well, you should now connect to your pc via bluetooth.
You should be able to browse the internet, or use MSN Messenger, and if you can do that (if on your PC you've got internet pass thru on your ActiveSync), you can use skype, X-ten Softphone, PocketIRC, etc.
If you have any problems, send me a private message and i'll try and talk you trough it.
Thanks futurity!
It was so satisfying when I got it working finally, and then I still went back to wifi
Very useful info, keep a copy on my PDA.
V
If you have bluetooth LAN connection doesn't that mean you can also access network shares? I don't think that is possible through active sync...
Just curious
Si
Yepp, that's amost the only difference, besides that you need ActiveSync for Internet access and not only a standard bluetooth stack capable of doing it.
One remark on the detailed setup list from futurity: If the device is already paired with the PC you want to sync with, you have to (after pressing the start button in the bluetooth settings) re-pair the devices. I'm also always deleting an existing partnership with the PC but I'm not sure wether this is neccessary or not. This procedure ist very annoying when you often switch between PCs. I was told that the Freeware PocketMultiPartnershipSync helps for that but it didn't quite work for me.
What is concerning using the GPRS modem over the Magician, I was writing some detailed walkthroughs for that in the forum. You basically need to set up AT strings in your Modem settings to set up the APN of your provider. I also experienced that it sometimes didn't work, maybe due to the installed radio version on my device. I was successful with the Radio 1.13 installed, so try that.
Mudstuffin said:
If you have bluetooth LAN connection doesn't that mean you can also access network shares? I don't think that is possible through active sync...
Just curious
Si
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The Orange M500 has the Microsoft (M$) Bluetooth stack so making a LAN connection isn't an option for me.
This is what i did:
If you have any COM port used by your other stuffs, I suggest delete them, and change to other port. Basically, Windows mobile use this port as their default:
Incoming Port : COM4
Outgoing Port: COM5
therefore make this on your computer:
Bluetooth Port COM3
Communication Port COM4
Communication Port COM5
and then set your Activesync to detect COM3
Now you can use Activesync + other thing you may need for LAN
futurity said:
Ok, I've finally had time to get the sequence perfected after setting this up about 10 times (most of them failures).
Here is the working procedure, based heavily on the previous posted procedure with some more detailed instructions that worked for me.
PC Bluetooth:
First off you don't need to create a bluetooth lan connection in order to get LAN or Internet access. We're setting up Internet access via the ActiveSync Proxy.
Install your Bluetooth interface into your PC (for me i just plugged in my Bluetooth USB dongle and it installed using XP drivers, but you may need to install specific software).
On your PC task bar (bottom right next to the time) click on the blue Bluetooth icon (called Bluetooth devices on my PC)
Select "COM Ports", then add, then select "Incoming (device initiates the connection)" then OK. This creates an inbound connection that the Magician can use to talk to the ActiveSync Program.
Note the COM port number of the newly created COM port.
PC ActiveSync:
Open ActiveSync
Select File->Connection Settings
Select the "Allow serial cable or infrared connection to this COM port:" and select the port number that you just created.
Magician Bluetooth:
Select Start > Settings > System > Bluetooth settings.
Select the "Inbound COM port:" box.
Then Select the "Outbound COM port:" box. If it asks you to select a device providing a serial interface, click ok,
Then this will take you to Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth. but for now close this window by clicking the top right "ok" to close the window. i.e. don't select a new device quite yet.
The Bluetooth settings page should now reappear.
Now press the "Start" button in the middle of the page. Press ok to accept the prompt to select a device providing a serial activesync interface.
Then this will take you to Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth again.
Here click on Turn on blueooth, make device discoverable, then tab "Devices", search for a new device (ie your pc), create a bond, set up a passcode (0000 etc), your pc should then show a balloon to say your phone is trying to make a connection and requires a pin. Set that Pin to 0000. Your phone should now bond with the PC.
Magician Active Sync:
Next open up ActiveSync on your PPC, and click Tools menu, Connect via bluetooth.
Hopefully, all being well, you should now connect to your pc via bluetooth.
You should be able to browse the internet, or use MSN Messenger, and if you can do that (if on your PC you've got internet pass thru on your ActiveSync), you can use skype, X-ten Softphone, PocketIRC, etc.
If you have any problems, send me a private message and i'll try and talk you trough it.
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BT Activesync "No Partnership"

Trying to BT AS from my JasJar to my PC.
PC has activesync service setup on COM6
AS is listening on COM6
JasJar has outgoing COM set to 4
When I start a BT sync reports "Cant find existing Bluetooth Partnership that supports activesync." and asks for a search.
Run through the wizard and select my PC and its serial port. After finishing device will not start a connection.
Go back to activesync and try to connect via bluetooth and gives the "cant find partnership error.
Tried two different adapters on the PC and neither get it to work.
Anyone with any ideas?
Thanks!
Remove all the BT setting you have setup. Just follow the Help file on AS4.1 it works, really!
Tried all that and still not working.
Device just doesnt seem to initiate an outgoing connection.
ActSync connection problem!!
Did you fix the connection problem, think we are living the same case.
If you did fix would you please tell me what was the way?
thanks!
@Dave
From the PC AS, select File>Connection Settings and uncheck USB connection and select the BT COM port for Allow Connections. Then select "Connect" and wait till it tries all the connections and fails. Then selec Cancel and then try to connect from your Universal.
PS - I am assuming you have set-up the BT pairing using the Control Panel on the PC and Added the BT COM port from there as well
Hi,
Tried your suggestion. No luck.
PC is setup correctly. AS listening on COM6 (BT AS port as shown in my local services)
Jas doesnt seem top even initiate an outgoing connection. Get no blue indication on my desktop icon or on the port status item in the control panel.
Sorry to keep asking questions, but when you set-up the pairing between the PC and JJ did you get a Wizard on the PC that identified the ActiveSync service? Does the pairing info on the JJ say the PC provides a ActiveSync service?
I've had the same problem with my M5000, just solved it.
I removed the Toshiba bluetooth Drivers from the system and rebooted. WinXP SP2 found new hardware and proceeded to install what I assume to be standard MS Bluetooth stack. (DellHardWare.jpg)
Next, I deleted the bluetooth partnership from the M5000. I created a new partnership with my laptop, but initiated from the M5000. At this point, the M5000 didn't offer any services to use with the partnership. So, back to the laptop, creating a new incoming COM port (COM8),(DellCom8.jpg) and then set Activesync on the laptop to use that newly created port. (DellAS_connect.jpg)
Back to the M5000 bluetooth partnership, select the newly created partnership and click refresh (M5000btooth.jpg) This Time it offers me the activesync service. Tick the activesync service and then save.
Finally, on the M5000, from activesync select bluetooth connection...and that was it. Still working. Once I've disconnected and soft reset I'll try to make the connection again and report back. I'll also try to use the M5000 as a wireless modem and post results here.
FrankyG, great news. But I think the procedure you described is not that different from the AS44.1 Help file I suggested earlier.
i do it, but i doesn´t runs
Delete all your BT COM in control panel/system/device manager (select view and show hidden devices) by going to safe mode. Afterwhich restart your PC and try to pair again....it's always works for me

activesync via bluetooth

Hi all,
I have a toshiba portege r200 and I'm simply not able to set up ActiveSync to work through bluetooth. The darn computer only sees my phone as a modem.
I have no clue how to do this.
I really cant' see why this has to be so hard. Both units are running stupid microsoft software. Whey the can't microsoft think that people migh want to connect their ppc's to their laptops via bt and just make it work easily?
Please, someone help.
thanks
zsizsi said:
Hi all,
I have a toshiba portege r200 and I'm simply not able to set up ActiveSync to work through bluetooth. The darn computer only sees my phone as a modem.
I have no clue how to do this.
I really cant' see why this has to be so hard. Both units are running stupid microsoft software. Whey the can't microsoft think that people migh want to connect their ppc's to their laptops via bt and just make it work easily?
Please, someone help.
thanks
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I agree 100% that this should be easier. But I think ActiveSync is actually a service that the laptop offers, not the phone. So on the phone, go to your BT manager, select your laptop, and then select services. ActiveSync should be one of the choices. After that, you should be able to connect to ActiveSync via BT, but I think you need to initiate the connection from your phone.
Activesync via Bluetooth
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
thank you all for your input.
i tried everything you guys suggested and it's still not working. my comp only offers a serial connection. is that ok? it has this toshiba bluetooth software on it not the original windows kind.
when i choose connect via bluetooth on my ppc's activesync it sais there's no computer that supports bt.
any ideas?
thanks again
I have Toshiba Bluetooth control software as well. I am certain it's the incorrect or incomplete BT COM port setting on your PC. A few findings (on my notebook) to share, hope this helps.
1. I have a "Bluetooth Local COM" applet on Control Panel
2. By opening "Bluetooth Local COM" applet I have a list of PORTS
3. The CORRECT port I HAVE TO use IS
"COM7 Toshiba BT Port (COM7) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)]
NOT
"COM6 Toshiba BT Port (COM6) LocalCOM-Client"
4. If you don't find the Server COM port, do "create a Bluetooth virtual COM port for a Server"
5. Of course enable by checking the "Connection Settings" "allows connections to one of the following COM#" (7 in my case)
After this, try the steps I suggested. Initiate BT Activesyn from your PDA phone.
Good luck.
Hi,
Thanks for all your effort.
I did what you said and it's still not working.
When I'm trying to connect from my phone via bluetooth it satill sais it cannot find existing blueooth partnership with a pc that supports activesync.
what am i doing wrong?
Thanks
IceGoal said:
I have Toshiba Bluetooth control software as well. I am certain it's the incorrect or incomplete BT COM port setting on your PC. A few findings (on my notebook) to share, hope this helps.
1. I have a "Bluetooth Local COM" applet on Control Panel
2. By opening "Bluetooth Local COM" applet I have a list of PORTS
3. The CORRECT port I HAVE TO use IS
"COM7 Toshiba BT Port (COM7) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)]
NOT
"COM6 Toshiba BT Port (COM6) LocalCOM-Client"
4. If you don't find the Server COM port, do "create a Bluetooth virtual COM port for a Server"
5. Of course enable by checking the "Connection Settings" "allows connections to one of the following COM#" (7 in my case)
After this, try the steps I suggested. Initiate BT Activesyn from your PDA phone.
Good luck.
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Phat!! This works for me with my Acer laptop and Bluetooth connection, thanks man!
Sweet, took a few tries, but works like a charm.
Thanks
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I just wanted to bump this to say thanks for posting the bit about using the LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)] port instead of the client port. Trying to get AS working using the Toshiba stack was driving me around the bend!
My pleasure
I've learned a lot from this wonderful board from a lot of wonderful people. Glad to be part of it!
You're the MAN
Thanks. This also worked for my Cingualr 8125. Many hours wasted. Glad I found this post. Thanks for your help.
this worked on my cingular 8125 as well, zsizsi i think you may have to delete all partnerships that were previously created with handheld on your pc and handheld. if that dosent work then in bluetooth settings go to options and under general tab check box "PAN networking service" that is just something i did while creating partnership not sure if it helps
The only thing that worked for me after 4 days of messing with it was to do a cold boot.
The first thing I did after the boot was to follow the instructions. Voila! ActiveSync magically appeared.
Hi all,
I have exactly the same problem with my qtek9100 and my IBM T43 Laptop.
I tried many times but....still not working!
As zsizsi if I try to make a relationship via PDA, it asks me the pairing key, and I'm blocked.
If I go through PC, I can do pairing, in the services I flag activesync, I configure the same com port that I have on AS (com 8) and when I0'm in the bluetooth wizard on the PDA, related to the PC I can only see 3 services:
hands free
remote connection
serial port
no activesync service to flag.
If I try then with the PDA Menu>BT connection it aswer that there is no relationship with PC supporting AS!!!!What the hell!
The only thing I see is that in my BT config in the local server the BT wizard creates a serial port named My activesync......
I have tried also your suggestion but.....
tinman44 said:
this worked on my cingular 8125 as well, zsizsi i think you may have to delete all partnerships that were previously created with handheld on your pc and handheld. if that dosent work then in bluetooth settings go to options and under general tab check box "PAN networking service" that is just something i did while creating partnership not sure if it helps
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thank you soo much for that info...enabling the "PAN networking service" finally allowed me to connect with my toshiba qosmio laptop
If the devices are paired... You have to select a service for the pda BT connection
Only when you manage to select the servive Activesync (a comport has to be valid assingd) then a connectin can be astablished.
In active sync you must assign a com port.
See the manual in activesync BT
Yes, I can guess it.
The rpoblem is that the devices are paired, the activesync service is flagged in the PC (while I do the automatic pairing devices withn a wizard).
But I can't still see the service in my PDA.
I can only find:
Hands free
Serial port
remote connection
No activesync service on the PDA relation wizard...
Any other suggestion?
Another issue.
When I look in my BT services, I can't find an activesync service, but only an icon (com plug) called My activesync.
Look at the properties of this icon I can only flag automatic/manual and Secure/unsecure connection, and there is the window manu to select the com port (that is the same selected in Activesync settings).
Is that correct, or I should find a specific activesync icon (like PIM syncronizing ....)
Blinks....
SKID
Re: Activesync via Bluetooth
IceGoal said:
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
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FOLLOW THIS STEP BY STEP.... I HAVE DONE IT 3 TIMES FOR MYSELF AND FRIENDS ON DIFFERENT LAPTOPS AND IT WORKED FIRST TIME - EVERYTIME!!!
PS. Delete all existing pairings, relationships, COM ports etc, START FRESH!
THANKS MAN!
Re: Activesync via Bluetooth
IceGoal said:
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
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Thanks IceGoal, on my HP laptop it works superb.
But I have to say that those people that work on our mobile network provider company are uncapale, because they said that this is impossible to connect.
Thanks again folks.

Vista + WMDC + bluetooth = no joy

Hi,
I can't get sync over bluetooth to work with the WMDC in Vista.
First I established a partnership with the device using a USB cable. That worked!
Then I paired my toshiba laptop (internal bt radio) with the blueangel (ticked the ActiveSync service checkmark). That almost worked.. I entered the same passkey on both and then vista tried to add a driver for the blueangel, but never found the driver. Goes online, doesn't find it and prompts me for a CD. Does such a driver exist? I just end up with a nonfunctionning "Bluetooth Peripheral Device".
If I press on nevertheless and on the blueangel I "Connect via bluetooth" it authenticates and says "Connected", but on the laptop in WMDC it says "Connecting" for a while, then "Error".
Any help appreciated!
PS: Amazing job on getting WM6 out on this device!!
jamesjay said:
Hi,
I can't get sync over bluetooth to work with the WMDC in Vista.
First I established a partnership with the device using a USB cable. That worked!
Then I paired my toshiba laptop (internal bt radio) with the blueangel (ticked the ActiveSync service checkmark). That almost worked.. I entered the same passkey on both and then vista tried to add a driver for the blueangel, but never found the driver. Goes online, doesn't find it and prompts me for a CD. Does such a driver exist? I just end up with a nonfunctionning "Bluetooth Peripheral Device".
If I press on nevertheless and on the blueangel I "Connect via bluetooth" it authenticates and says "Connected", but on the laptop in WMDC it says "Connecting" for a while, then "Error".
Any help appreciated!
PS: Amazing job on getting WM6 out on this device!!
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Just curious, do you have WMDC 6, or 6.1?
Wmdc 6.1.6965
works fine here with wmdc 6.1. Besure to tick to the box for activesync in bletooth profiles on your device when pairing the first time.
Canaan,
I did tick the box.. which BT stack and monitor are you using on the PC and on the device? Were you prompted to install drivers on vista at any point? Thanks!
No, i wasnt prompted to install any drivers.Never have,not even on xp pro/wm2003-2005. I'm running vista and broadcom stack. Check your in discovery mode and your com ports match on both device and desktop/laptop bluetooth settings.
Here is how it is done under vista
1.go to control panel, bluetooth devices and turn your BT discovery on
2.then turn your devices BT on and search for devices
3.after finding your pc pair it with your BA ( i use passkey 00000)
4.then the wizard will ask you which services you want to use from your pc, select activesync
5.then open activesync on BA and select from the menu "connect via bluetooth"
and thats all
requirements are that you have WMDC 6 or 6,1 with default connection options (by default BT sync is on)
Thanks for you reply. I guess I wasn't clear in my initial problem description.. the steps you outlined are exactly what I'm doing. However, when I get to step 4 and pair the device with the laptop, vista doesn't find the driver for the BA. It looks online for it and doesn't find it, so it prompts me. I don't know where that driver is and so I end up with a non-functionning "Bluetooth peripheral device" in the device manager.
I'm kind of suspecting the Toshiba proprietary bluetooth stack and monitor on the laptop at this point. I had no luck with the MS stack either. I guess I'll try to get the widcomm stack going on the laptop, sounds like it's the only one that works with the BA.
well connect your device to cradle or usb, then run windows update, it will find updates to the windows mobile device driver (here it done it twice) install it reboot and your device will be found
there is no service "activesync" after devices are paired
Hi Xplode,
I did your steps and my BA can find my pc via bluetooth...
However, when you said a list of services comes up, and choose "activesync"... it is not there...
the only 2 sevices I can choose are "wireless stereo" and "serial port".
Also, when I try my PC to find my BA, it says that "it cannot detect remote devices"
Am I doing something wrong here?
do you have WMDC installed and updates installed ?
go to your bluetooth settings of your laptop and delete the serial port created for your phone and delete your partnership. delete partnership from phone too,then re-pair them.You should see your laptop's bluetooth searching for services on your device.It should list dial-up networking,serial,handsfree and activesync.If this fails,i suggest your try and force-install widcomm/broadcom drivers.On www.parrot.fr they have instructions on how to install a microsoft bluetooth stack over the toshiba one's.the toshiba stack doesnt play nice with a lot of devices.
Xplode, yes I installed the updates... as I have read before, connect via usb and run windows update... I found 2 updates, installed them and reboot...
Maybe before I go on, jst a quick question:
is bluetooth activesync faster than usb activesync?
The point of my question would be.. I wouldnt want to go through all these hassles if at the end, bt connection is slower, cause for me it is just a nice add in function, not a requirement.....
Thanks and please answer this question for those who have done it...
Bluetooth activeync is a little slower than usb activesync but for me,its still more convenient than carrying the cradle or cable around.
USE this way.
After having connect your device once over USB to the WMDC in BT device manager in your PC add an incoming port i.e. COM3, now go to the Mobile device, turn on BT, open BT manager and in the setting under Com port tab add the same # COM port, if you can't find under COM scroll to BTS, it doesn't matter where the port number is located. Now go to WMDC click your Device icon go to Connection Setting and instead of leaving the default Bluetooth for others device scroll to the number of Com port you choose before COM3. Try to connect from device et..voila. I really would like to know why u have to guess always everything with Microsoft and paying and never being paid for my long night spent to solve their problems.
..I forgot for the further access you must start from BT manager on device --> acttyvesynch BT and click on your PC icon
to synch. If ever will not work maybe WM6 reset in your device actyvesynch to USB instead leaving BLUETOOTH, just change it.
Hope it helps somebody !
I ran into this same problem with the Toshiba BT stack on an ASUS notebook and an HTC Wizard (WM5). The solution was found in a Toshiba troubleshooting PDF.
From Control Panel, start the Bluetooth Local COM applet (installed by Toshiba BT), find the COM port labeled “LocalCOMServer[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LocalCOM)]”. Usually it's COM7.
After identifying the correct COM port, open WMDC, click “Connection Settings” under “Mobile Device Settings”, ensure "Allow Connections to one of the following:" is checked, then select the COM Port found above (again, usually COM7).
Proceed as usual and "ActiveSync" should appear instead of "Serial Port".
I'll continue the instructions for whoever might benefit:
With the computer's BT in discoverable mode, run ActiveSync on the mobile device, and tap [Menu][Connect via Bluetooth]. If there is no existing partnership, you'll be prompted to create one. Afterward (or otherwise), the computer will be checked for a running ActiveSync/WMDC process, and if all goes well, you'll see "ActiveSync" among the available services, which should obviously be checkmarked, followed by a tap on [Finish].
Now a BT link can be initiated from within ActiveSync on the mobile device, by tapping [Menu][Connect via Bluetooth] as above.
Hope this helps.

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