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Hey,
I've noticed many universals, whose face plates (the one on the outside, which is the metal plate) have got dented over time. Coincidentally, it gets dented right below the speaker holes running horizontally (along the width of the device). I have been using my device with utmost care, and i really dont see how this could have happened :-(
A couple of my friends who have Jasjars have their metal plates dented too...wondering if its some screwed up manufacturing issue which causes this...
Do any of you seem to be having the same problem??
I wonder if this could be the weak point, hence causing the display to crack too..
San
I have a small, almost unnoticable dent about midway down the hinge on that plate. Then again, my brother did yank my jajsar off a bookshelf that was about 7 feet up... but still, I have no idea how it got there. My aluminum case seems to have stopped any further scratch/denting, however.
Possibly when you place the Universal in your trouser's pocket with the metal side facing outside it may inadvertently get bumped around with furniture and other things around the office or home room.
As soon as I got my Jasjar about 6 months back I realized that this hitting around may cause the metal plate to dent. I therefore developed the habit of always placing my Jasjar in my trouser pockets with the metal plate facing towards the leg. To date I do not see a single dent on the face plate.
Regards
Someone I know with a JJ had hus screen crack because he kept his JJ in his trouser pocket - so be aware
I never put it in any of my pockets. Never did that with any of my previous PDAs, with the exception of the very first Palm III I had. What a BIG mistake that was, somehow the screen took a nice crack along its’ face.
Morale of the story, never put a PDA in any pocket, always carry it in hand.
I found that walking into some scaffolding on site at work creates a dent in the case.
Moral of the story dont walk into things and you wont dent it.
Aluminium case for work now.
Anything will dent, crack or break if you hit it hard enough.
Regardless of how carefull you think you are being you will always get scuffs, scratches etc.
ninja12innotts said:
I found that walking into some scaffolding on site at work creates a dent in the case.
Moral of the story dont walk into things and you wont dent it.
Aluminium case for work now.
Anything will dent, crack or break if you hit it hard enough.
Regardless of how carefull you think you are being you will always get scuffs, scratches etc.
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hehe
well, i guess i'm pretty anal about my device.....especially because i have an OCD to see my device spotless...
its a dent at the same damn location on many devices i've seen so far.....
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ninja12innotts said:
I found that walking into some scaffolding on site at work creates a dent in the case.
Moral of the story dont walk into things and you wont dent it.
Anything will dent, crack or break if you hit it hard enough.
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I think the point the OP is trying to make is that he HASN'T "hit it hard enough".
I've dents in mine also, and there's NO WAY I've hit it with anything. I don't walk into scaffolding for instance.
I actually agree.
I didnt hit the scaffolding that hard and was surprised by how easily it did put a dent in it.
I made up an excuse to O2 about something not working and sent it back under warranty. Now I am extra carefull hence the Aluminium case for when I am out and about.
let's admit it: it's not very comfortable in the pocket. i was wondering how are you carring it? in the pocket? with a clip-on case attached to your belt (pls share which case)? in your briefcase?
i'm still looking for the most comfortable way...
I can not carry it any place but in the trouser pocket. I have broken many belt cases or holsters.
Gramicci, a company that makes clothing for rock climbing made a pair of trousers with a pocket sewn on the right thigh for carrying GPS or cell phone and it fits the Wizard nicely. I do not know if they still make these trousers but they are my favorite....
I'm just using the clip-on case that came with my T-Mobile (US) MDA. Its plain, but does the job.
Eventually, I play to get a better case, debating between a good metal case like
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/Me...gory_Code=mda_iv_accessories&Product_Count=10
or
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/Me...gory_Code=mda_iv_accessories&Product_Count=12
The latter is most likely what I'll get, as it looks like its fast to pull out, and provides adequate production, but I like the durability of the metal case.
I switch back and forth between the default Cingular 8125 belt-clip case and a PDair Aluminum case. When I use the aluminum, I carry it in my pocket. It's quite a brick with the case.
The PDair case can be seen at
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_200&products_id=2377
Honestly, both cases have their virtues. The aluminum case undeniably provides better protection. However, it also severely degrades signal quality. In order to have a conversation, I have to actually remove the the phone from the aluminum case or else the call quality is abysmal. The aluminum case also ruins the EDGE/GPRS connection. All of that said, sometimes I prefer the aluminum when I want to be sure that the phone is safe.
The belt-clip case keeps the wizard out of my pocket, but keeps me more protective of the phone while it's on my belt.
I use the case that came with my 8125. It works great, I have not had any problems with it.
Just in the pocket of my trousers. I'm not fat, so it's fit just right.
Should not be a millimiter thicker, then I got a problem.
Only problem is to get it, sometimes it's not so easy and sometimes I hit the Red (end call) button when I reach for it
Fits in my pants pocket just fine, even with the BIG extended battery. I just make sure the display is in (against my leg) which is a good idea anyway.
I also carry it in my pocket. It's not as big as I thought it would be. It's certainly bigger than a regular phone, but for a PDA phone it's not too bad. I also always make sure the screen is facing my leg, just in case something hits my leg, at least it hits the back and not the screen.
I carry it in the front left pocket of whatever pants I happen to be wearing (be it jeans at home, or khakis/dress pants at work), usually in its PDAir aluminum case. I have the same signal quality issue as everybody else, but as I barely ever talk on the phone I can keep it in the case all day long.
The only issue I have is when I'm wearing dress pants, as they're of thinner and tighter material. I've been carrying the phone w/out a case as of late (I have a screen protector on it and the housing is already beat up, so I'm not too worried), but I just ordered a leather belt clip on eBay today for when I'm at work. I'm not too worried about looking like an idiot, as pretty much anyone working here (I work for IBM) has their cell on a belt clip.
I bought this case on Ebay to use with my Cingular 8125.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-Fit-Delu...5QQihZ013QQcategoryZ15036QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
When I'm at work, I use the beltclip and wear it on my belt. Other places, I throw it in my purse -- with the case MINUS the belt clip. Since I have individual ringtones assigned to certain contacts, I don't need to flip it open to see who's calling. I can just hit the answer button and start talking.
i want a case that provide full protection not just the screen and not the buttons as well i prefer it to allow the keyboard access while in case
the krussels are almost up to the job but havent yet found the perfect case as i did for my 6620
In my front pocket - but this caused a broken screen.
Yup, watch out all you pants pocket carriers. Not exactly sure how it happened. It was only in there for a few mintues (pants pocket in my jeans) and when I pulled it out it was shattered.
A bit of a pain to get it fixed too, these are the options I've come up with:
$169 USD - http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...pairs-Full+Service+Repairs~item~IMT-LCD03.htm
Over $300 USD - http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/
Luckily I bought it on good old VISA so will be calling in the 90 day buyer protection feature. You gotta love how our society protects us from our own stupidity.
Cheers.
Looks like I'll stay with the trouser pocket for awhile. They should design clothing with a pocket for these things, they ain't going away....
And thanks for the tip on the Aluminum cases. I'm not pleased with the signal strength on my 8125 as is so the AL case won't help.
And hello to all, I'm totally new to these devices but I like my 8125 so far.
Trouser pocket usually when I'm wearing shorts (bigger pockets, not in the aluminum case). When I'm wearing jeans, it's almost always in its aluminum case hanging from my pocket if I'm not wearing a belt, belt if I am wearing a belt. Sitting at my desk at work, it's usually out of the aluminum case unless I'm wandering over to the other building. Then it winds up in either my back pocket, or the aluminum case. And no, I don't forget that it's there when it is in my back pocket.
After my first 8125 went overboard, I ditched the stock case that came with it and purchased a Sedio holster. This thing is indestructable. I caught my 8125 on the boat's lifeline the other day and I damn near went overboard..... :roll:
In a zipped front pocket of my bag (over the shoulder rucksack-y thing)
Not enough space in the pockets of women's jeans!
I use a small (ripstop nylon) digital camera belt case from Tamrac that I got from Circuit City. The case that comes with it is okay for dress, but I don't like the way it leaves the corners of the devise exposed.
I bought the case from Krusell. Everything matches great, I can use all Buttons, there's a little pocket for another MiniSD-Card and the clip-system allows more ways to fix it somewhere. Usually I wear it on my belt.
But it matches only with the standard back (not with extended battery).
I am currently using the magnetic clasped case that came with the device and that has seen me to Japan and then to Scotland, so it seems to work. It has spent most of its time in my trouser pocket and occasionaly in my bag. The only problem is that it's not particulalry easy to use it from inside the case - it takes time to get it out. Also, I didnt use the belt clasp on the side of the case which generally makes the whole thing too bulky. If that was not on there it might be a worthwhile case.
I have also carried it around for short periods with no case on it (which makes it easy to get out, use and then put away), but I was worried of breaking the screen (which has a screen protector to stop me from worrying about getting it scratched).
I did order an aluminium case which was meant to arrive before my trip to Japan, but it didn't. Should finally get to pick it up in August and I am hoping it will be sufficiently small (ie, with no "useless" clasp on the back) for me to use it instead of this leather thing.
Am also planning on getting my old phone unlocked so I can use it as a temporary phone when I need to go somewhere where there is a greater risk of me damaging the phone or greater need for it to be smaller (like black tie events).
I didn't use to use anything. Just carried it in my pocket but after going from a Razr to the Vario, it was strange having something so comparatively bulky.
Since my screen broke and I had to pay to have it fixed, I've been using the magnetic case with belt clip the phone came with. A shirt of t-shirt generally falls loosely over it so it doesn't stand out much.
Would only beinterested in a different case if it were thinner than the standard case.
Anyone else buy and have problems with it? I searched around after thinking I saw a complaint on it like I've got but couldn't find.
Basicly, I put it on started noticing the top was putting pressure onto the screen I think. THe touch screen got extremely laggy, unresponsivess, and just seemed to go crazy. I'm going to try sanding it down on the inside but I think that just sucks.
On top of that the phone fell out of the back/belt clip half one night and caused a nice freakin dent in my phone and allowed the battery to flip out almost down a sewer.
Anyone care to give me a positive review so I don't just throw this thing out?
Also - is it possible to buy a new physical case to replace a scratched/dented case? Not the body glove I mean the actual phone casing.
chibahawk said:
Anyone else buy and have problems with it? I searched around after thinking I saw a complaint on it like I've got but couldn't find.
Basicly, I put it on started noticing the top was putting pressure onto the screen I think. THe touch screen got extremely laggy, unresponsivess, and just seemed to go crazy. I'm going to try sanding it down on the inside but I think that just sucks.
On top of that the phone fell out of the back/belt clip half one night and caused a nice freakin dent in my phone and allowed the battery to flip out almost down a sewer.
Anyone care to give me a positive review so I don't just throw this thing out?
Also - is it possible to buy a new physical case to replace a scratched/dented case? Not the body glove I mean the actual phone casing.
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I have this case and had the same problem. I have read that many others have had it too. Honestly I dont know why a company would put out a product like this. They all should be recalled, however me being me decided to just fix it by Taking a dremel tool and shaving some of the inside part of the screen protector off, making it put less pressure on the screen. It fixed it immediately. The case does a great job in protecting the phone, just a major flaw that can be fixed if you have the time and tools. If you dont, ***** to the company and get your money back and try something else.
Praygo said:
I have this case and had the same problem. I have read that many others have had it too. Honestly I dont know why a company would put out a product like this. They all should be recalled, however me being me decided to just fix it by Taking a dremel tool and shaving some of the inside part of the screen protector off, making it put less pressure on the screen. It fixed it immediately. The case does a great job in protecting the phone, just a major flaw that can be fixed if you have the time and tools. If you dont, ***** to the company and get your money back and try something else.
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Yes I could see that the inside casing was a bit rough so sanding should stop the problem - but seriously that's a major issue.
Have you found that it holds the phone well though? Because I'm very upset that my phone fell out of it once already but maybe it was an error on my part and it wasn't secure enough...
I've never had the phone fall out of the body glove case.
i mangled my body glove case.
someone bumped into me and the phone fell out of the case AGAIN.
i ripped it to shreds and left it on the side of the road to rot into plastic hell.
i dont recommend this product.
I returned mine. I had the exact same issues (screen and phone falling out). It also didn't attach properly on the top left corner, it was always bowed out. I don't recommend it either.
Anyone got any else to share?
I was THIS CLOSE ( || ) to buying it. lol
Is there anything out there that's similar to it in design, but better?
returned
When all the way snapped on, mine pushed the top left corner so hard the entire screen would not respond to touch. Returned it.
My friend and i had the same issue. We just took it off messed around with it and put it back and it works fine, SOMETIMES it happens again but we just take it off and put it on.
Since there is not any other case that provides this type of protection we are keeping it. I rather my phone be safe than anything else.
I just ordered mine yesterday so I'm anxiously awaiting its arrival.
What exactly did you have to mod to get it to work? According to my readings, you just need to sand down the edges that connect with the screen right?
I may just buy the case and sand down what was mentioned. I like the design of the case..only one so far I really like.
I've been using one for about two weeks and am very happy with it. Had read about the screen pressure issue on other posts (searching helps folks), and scraped down the top corners before I put it on. Don't need a dremel tool or sandpaper. No problems, fits perfectly. The only warning is that it's a little dicey to take off once it's on -- it really fits snugly.
Yout're talking about the "sand texture" clip-on case, right? If so, yes, I bought the case too. The top cover was too tight and caused the screen issue people are mentioning. That was an easy fix by shaving down the edges that were pressing too hard (actually, I just cleaned off the coating from the plastic that was causing it... The bottom of the case however wouldn't fit at all. no matter what I tried, I couldn't get all of the clips to lock over the edges of the phone. I removed the felt lining and still had issues. I got around it by using thin double sided tape (for a temporary fix until I got a new case). I wouldn't trust the belt clip with the double stick tape though. I ordered the rubberized case on ebay and the fit is perfect. Just get that one. I sent an e-mail in to Body Glove and have had no response yet. We should all get our money back on these cases, or at least a redesigned bottom case that fits correctly. Right now it was just a complete waste of money. It's a shame, because I really liked the feel of the case.
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Yout're talking about the "sand texture" clip-on case, right? If so, yes, I bought the case too. The top cover was too tight and caused the screen issue people are mentioning. That was an easy fix by shaving down the edges that were pressing too hard (actually, I just cleaned off the coating from the plastic that was causing it... The bottom of the case however wouldn't fit at all. no matter what I tried, I couldn't get all of the clips to lock over the edges of the phone. I removed the felt lining and still had issues. I got around it by using thin double sided tape (for a temporary fix until I got a new case). I wouldn't trust the belt clip with the double stick tape though. I ordered the rubberized case on ebay and the fit is perfect. Just get that one. I sent an e-mail in to Body Glove and have had no response yet. We should all get our money back on these cases, or at least a redesigned bottom case that fits correctly. Right now it was just a complete waste of money. It's a shame, because I really liked the feel of the case.
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Could you give us the link for the ebay one please!
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-RUBBERIZED-...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
That is the one I ordered, and the fit is perfect. The only thing I wish it had was the belt clip insert for the case included. I don't know where to find one, but I mostly keep it in my pocket anyway.
you guys want a good case that protects? check out the monaco aluminum case, it comes with a clear lens on it which I haven't removed but you could if you wanted quick access to the touchscreen. I work in the construction field and have yet to have it fall off my clip. I also dropped my tilt (when I used it) from about 8" off a ladder and it was perfectly fine. The aluminum case for the fuze isn't any more bulky than the body glove case either.
bilbobrian said:
check out the monaco aluminum case
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I've got one of these as well...and while it does protect the phone very well it will also lower your signal strength. I've had these type cases for the Wizard and Tilt and now the Fuze...whenever I'm in an area where the signal was a little iffy to begin with I WILL either drop the call or be unable to answer with the metal case. So, stay away from the aluminum ones if you go into lower coverage areas (and no...the slots they cut in the back to help improve the signal don't actually help.)
Something I always liked about my Kaiser was having a lanyard attached to it. I did this after dropping it a couple of times due to it slipping out of my hand.
As the HD2 is even more slippery in my fingers and probably more likely to shatter or break on dropping, I was disappointed that there was no lanyard hole.
I contemplated drilling a hole in battery cover but didn't have a drill. So I've duct taped a lanyard onto the back, a la the attached pic.
First I lay the lanyard ring on the back and threaded duct tape through it, locking the lanyard ring to the phone. Then I layered a bit more duct tape on top to give it some strength.
It may look a bit messy and I could have done it neater. At the end of the day it will (hopefully) stop me dropping and breaking a £500 phone which I'm happy about. It's also surprisingly strong and will give an indication before it eventually gives way. Takes about 2 minutes.
Edit: Ugly duct tape method replaced by neater black tape version.
Edit2: Video howto added: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL3owsWT3E4
Disclaimer: If you try this and end up dropping your HD2 anyway, I accept no responsibility!
That could be the worst monstrosity to a HD2 Ive ever seen.
Haha, you may be right. But I don't have a mobile phone to look pretty, I have it to use it and rely on it to be working when I need it, not broken into 100 pieces on the floor.
Here's a neater black tape version. Not sure it will be as strong as the first though.
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Here's a neater black tape version. Not sure it will be as strong as the first though.
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looks sooo fragile , also u should try take it to a gravire-er if u dont have a drill and make a hole suitable
Job done no messing!
I can't understand why HC didnt add a lanyard bar and at the end of the day your solution will work and probably save your phone one day.
Nice graduated background on your photo and good image quality, what camera did you use?
It's the Panasonic FT1. A little waterproof compact.
Combining duct tape as the first layer and then black tape over for neatness is the best solution so far.
I've also considered super gluing the lanyard into the 3.5mm jack, but know I'd regret doing it straight after!
well, you guys aint the first to do this.
i invented a similar design a few weeks ago, mine used a 1" belt, meaning it can be strapped to your waist any time you like, safe as houses and pretty cool aesthetically
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After a bit of testing, this is the final method I will use.
Some folded black tape under the battery cover. The battery cover adds extra strength to the tape and it looks so much neater than the Duct tape.
to be honest, that is just ugly. sorry.
I also missed such a whole for it, as I also did that with my Kaiser.
Now I sticked to a Silicon/Plastic Combi Case
why dont you get a jelly case or something like that and you can make hole in it. tape will hold fora few days only
I'm going to get a case as well I think. But the tape solution outlined which is partly under the battery case will last a lot longer than a few days.
The tape should only be under any pressure if you're about to drop your HD2, which won't be that often and then the weight isn't that great.
I think it's a great idea, and the 'under battery cover' mod (V 1.3? ) looks fine. I'm going to try copying it so I can clip it to my handbag, but with fishing line for the loop.
Mariad said:
I think it's a great idea, and the 'under battery cover' mod (V 1.3? ) looks fine. I'm going to try copying it so I can clip it to my handbag, but with fishing line for the loop.
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Yeah, I agree. The third version looks nice and clean! The only question is: What did you attach the tape to? To the cover itself? Because I wonder how much strength it requires to pull off the cover and if that wouldn't happen if the device falls...
EDIT: I love how you labeled this a "hack"!
I attached the tape to the plastic under the cover, where the sim card is. I'll put a quick video together to illustrate.
I left it hanging by the lanyard last night, for about 7 hours, 7 feet in the air, no probs. It's not intended to be pulled as hard as a regular lanyard loop may be, but for a precaution if the phone slips from your hands. And then it will be fine.
And here's the not very good howto video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL3owsWT3E4
I dont mean to jinx you or anything, but the piece of string from the lanyard could easily split the single layer of duct tape where it's folded.. that's going to be where the weak point is....especially considering the weight of the HD2. It's not going to matter how many pieces of tape you've got under the batter cover.
Now if you were to have your HD2 on a desk or in your pocket, the temptation of grabbing it by the lanyard will be there... or if someone else decided to yank the lanyard.....
I'd suggest trying that method of attachment on something of a similar weight and shaking it around for a bit to see how the duct tape handles.
Remember... the HD2 screen is thin glass... One drop on a hard surface or if it lands at the wrong angle, it'll be time to order a new one!
I've tested it by pulling far more strongly on the lanyard than it ever would be subjected to in real use. I was able to pull it hard about 20 times before the tape started to give way. By then it was visibly starting to tear away, so you should have a good warning before it breaks. It will perfectly suit my needs anyway and I might try doubling the tape up for more strength next. Also, I think this could be improved by using even stronger tape.
Very good on the last release.
Great idea, man.
I'm going to try, but I've only two left hands....
Pink strap should be nice too ;-)
Ok I'm sure you all like to keep your HD2's looking as clean and shiny as i do, however I've noticed a bit of fluff and dust collecting in the earpiece speaker grill. I was just womdering if anyone had found a quick and simple way of cleaning it? I've tried cotton buds, sellotape and air dusters but it wont shift!
Before you suggest it I've already considered shrinking myself down to microscopic size (like that 80's movie with Dennis Quaid) and removing it by hand but thats not very practical.
Cheers.
150 psi out of my air compressor works well
Il remember that next time Im putting some air in my tyres. Cheers.
I use one of the girlfriends unused blusher brushes, and I keep it in the case all the time. A thick brush works best, you can grip the tip and give the grill a brisk brush.
Try one of those little usb vaccum cleaners. They're only a few bucks on ebay and should do the trick.
Yes, very annoying with all the crap that collects in the ear piece speaker grill...
Thanks guys...... gonna go and raid the missus' make up bag for a little brush.....
USB vacuum cleaners......lol thats a new one....
usb vacuum cleaners are just a geek collectable (I would know, I have one sitting on my desk anc passively collecting dust since at least 3 years ago as it is useless for any other use )... anyway, @you who suggested pressurized airflow... don't you worry that it will somehow damage the speaker membrane?
I'd rather go for a very delicate brush
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you who suggested pressurized airflow... don't you worry that it will somehow damage the speaker membrane?
I'd rather go for a very delicate brush
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I EXACTLY thought the same thing...
Paintbrush! Little one.
A quick blow job works for me
lakeland said:
A quick blow job works for me
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A 'blowjob' will work for me as well
Im using small paiting brush
Also while I think of it, I use one of those super-duper 'Xlerator' hand dryers at work on occasion to blow some of the dirt out of it.
Dont use a Dyson vaccum cleaner tho I sucked 4 keys off my laptop and what a pain replacing those
Thanks again folks, some strange and ingenious solutions indeed. The small brush is doing the trick but theres still some crap actually lodged in the grill I can't shift. Oh well..... at least I haven't smashed the screen or anything serious ....
This cyber clean gel works well for picking dust out of the ear slot and the USB socket.
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/pc-accessories/cyber-clean/1348285/
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150 psi out of my air compressor works well
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I wouldn't use that!
I did this once at work on an old phone, and as you know, water likes to form in the pipes when it's not been used in a while in compressors, also you get tiny bits of dirt in the pipes which you're blasting out and through the grill like a soft sand blaster!
Anyway, didn't even notice the small amount of water blasting out until the phone stopped working and i took it apart again to see the whole board was rusty.
Wondering if it was the air line that did it I fired it at a wall for about 30 seconds and saw it forming on the wall and running down.
A quick empty of the compressors drain valve did the trick to stop the water, but I still wouldn't trust it now.
I use a sort bristled (unused) tooth brush on my HD2 now.
Try good old blu-tack.
That or use something like a pin to dislodge the bits then the brush to clear them.
A soft tooth brush may work.