Hey folks,
Is there a utility/hack that allows you to change the GSM band from 900/1800 to just search the 1900 band? Since upping to 1.72 my radio always locks onto the 900 band and stays there for ages before locking onto my operator (on the 1900 band). I have to have at least 80% signal level. I know that 900 generally is a stronger signal (the other operator is always at least 10-20% over my operator), so thats why [note: I cannot roam with the other operator].. I know the new iPaq seems to have a band select, and my Treo 600 does too....
HTC do you have a util?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Art
under my phone settings i can choose network and set pref network and all kind of stuff like that
HTC do you have a util?
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i really doubt that HTC hang around this site you i think that
any questions you want to aim at HTC have to be mailed to them
Try this: go to phone, tools, options, network, network selection and put it in Manual, select your network and OK.
Tell us if it works well thus.
If it dont work, you can install old radio version.
Thanks folks for the replies.. That's actually how I have it set now (manual on my operator), but for some reason when you turn the radio on it locks on to the 900 band and just sits there.. If I walk around until a strong enough signal is obtained from my operator it'll lock on; but as you can imagine this is really annoying.
Thanks again for your pointers. If I find anything out I'll let you know, as I've also shot an e-mail to Carrier Devices; and will shoot something directly at HTC.
I may also drop down to Radio 1.10; but I hate having to re-install all my software again..
You can make backup, install old radio version and make restore.
are the frequencies hardware bound or software bound??
i read that on the typhoon, depending on which rom you flashed, it will change from 900mhz to 850mhz, or vise versa. is this a possibility with the magician platform?
perhaps i should have been clear.
with the magician, we have a tri-band phone. most of them are 900/1800/1900mhz and US models have 850/1800/1900mhz.
with the typhoon, i read that the device is quadband capable, but only three bands are enabled at once. so you can get a audiovox smt5600, which has 850/1800/1900mhz, and flash a c500 rom to it and you will end up with a 900/1800/1900mhz device.
i always thought that the frequencies are dependent on hardware settings, but i guess there is more to it than that.
so what i am asking is, is it possible to get a lets say, qtek s100 and flash it with i-mate jam US version rom, than will it enable the 850mhz band and disable 900mhz band?
i didn't think this was so much a stupid questions....
enlighten me!
I remeber reading a thread on Modaco or Hofo a month ago about this issue. Try to search there and see if you can find the thread. The general result was that you can flash a 850 Rom on a 900 Magician and the 850 will work, the 900 will be disabled. There were a few posts there of members who confirmed it worked. However, because the radio part was designed for the 900 band, the slight change in frequencies can over time damage your radio and make it useless. So be carefull to try this. read the mentioned fora for more info.
As far as I am aware the 850/900 difference is in the radio hardware and cannot be changed in software.
Hi All,
This is the first message forum I have ever used, please be gentle. Yes I have donated, if I was too cheap then say so, I'll give more.
I switched from ATT to T-Mobile last fall with my Siemens SX56. I unlocked it using XDA Unlock program. All worked well at the time. Phone would not work in Europe last week.
I have the following error both in the US and Europe and I would like help with resolving:
"the band switch screen displays "Current: ERROR" when viewed" If I attempt to change band my phone portion turns off then reacquires T-Mobile network and all seems ok. Is this error message accurate? What must I do to correct this problem and ensure my phone will work in Europe?
I would be delighted to work with some one in the Orlando Florida area to perform all the latest updates and resolve this problem.
Thanks, Scott
847-722-9497
us based dualband phones like xda1's will work on 900/1900 in us
eu based dualband ones will work on 900/1800 other places
you cant change that
you can only use a us based phone places where they use 900/1800 if you use an operator that use 900
the bootloader changer dont work
it's a hardware thing
Hi All,
Currently released version of Samsung Omnia i900 does not support UMTS 850/1900, which are north american 3G frequencies, according to official Samsung documentation, as well as FCC approval docs. However it has been recently established the radio chip does support those frequencies, and they are locked in the firmware only. Here is the evidence to support this claim:
This is the official FCC documentation for i900 certification:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...me=N&application_id=476604&fcc_id='A3LSGHI900
On the page 4 of the "Internal Photos" document you can clearly identify the radio chip - it's Qualcomm RTR6285 and according to Qualcomm:
"Support for Eight UMTS Bands, Four EGPRS Bands, Triple-Band Receive Diversity and GPS Integrated into Power-Optimized RTR6285 Device": http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2006/060213_worlds_first_single.html
So, it's only as matter of unlocking those frequencies in the current firmware. Samsung made our job a little easier, by recently making a public release of new ROM with updated firmware, so we won't have to dump it ourselves: http://www.samsungmobile.com/promotion/omnia/sg/sub02_xp.jsp#
I have limited free time and limited experience with reversing PDA firmware, to be able to achieve this by myself - please help.
I just got an Omnia and sometimes it hits the 3g network so i am sure that the firmware is there but it is locked.
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I just got an Omnia and sometimes it hits the 3g network so i am sure that the firmware is there but it is locked.
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more details please - where are you at? what network/carrier do you mean? do you really see 3G icon and experience fast browsing/download? what is the firmware version on your Omnia? (Settings -> System ->Version)
AT&T.I have it from Singapore.PDA:i900DXHH3/DZHH3.As i mentioned it hits 3g for a minute or so and then it goes back to edge
man i sure hope this issue gets fixed!
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a US model for the Samsung Omnia is coming to the US in October via AT&T. Look for the Samsung Mirage.
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AllTheWay I started this thread to solve the problem for people in US,who already have Singapore/European Omnia, the i900. It's a well known fact Mirage hits AT&T on October 21st, but it doesn't help us one bit. Unless of course, you're willing to dump the ROM from i907, reverse it and replace the i900's radio with the one from i907 with all supported UMTS frequencies unlocked
I wish somebody could help us out on this issue, I dont know enough about rom editing to be of use ;(
besides, i think the 907 is already available but not branded to at&t: http://www.celluloco.com/samsung-i907-omnia-8gb-us-3g-support-version-hsdpa850-1900-e-pr-1873.html
any update of this thread?
HTC Diamond users with US 3G - please help
I'm starting to believe it might actually be possible to tweak existing radio firmware to unlock UMTS 850/1900Mhz bands using already embedded secret debug menu from Samsung developers, rather than having to dump it, reverse it, patch and flash back. Here is the secret code to access Root Debug Menu on Omnia: *#197328640#
Option #4 "UMTS rf nv" has sub-option "umts rf nv write", which I think allows to modify the active UMTS bands in the radio. Assuming we have that set correctly, option #9 "Common" from the same Root Debug Menu has sub-option #5 "WCDMA Set Channel", which allows to specify downlink channel range.
Here is my idea: some devices, such as HTC Diamond with US 3G enabled radio, have the same Qualcomm chip as Omnia, and run the same WM 6.1 OS. So,
I'm thinking it's worth a shot if someone with US enabled HTC Diamond provided us with settings from his device for those 2 configurable menus I just mentioned. If you backup your own settings, so you could restore them if it doesn't work - I think trying settings from another device will not fry the radio, worst case scenario transceiver will just shut down and be offline until settings are restored.
This would be great.... Iv'e been dieing to get 3g in the usa with the omnia.... Can anyone help with this?
Any updates on this? Would be nice. Especially now since we know omnia isn't coming to ATT as i907
If possible i will donate to the guy that dicover how to enable!
It may be easier to copy the setting from an I907 Epix. That has almost identical hardware and it is ATT + Samsung + Tri Band UMTS.
When I try writing the WCDMA channel it says "That value is wrong".
Also, I can only set one number, so I assume that they want me to set one in the listed range which is WCDMA2100.
Here are the bands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
Oddly, the Channels currently set stretch a few beyond the range cited on Wiki for WCDMA 2100. They start on the same channel.
Another oddity is that there is no uplink channel. I suppose that people just use Edge for this? Does the I907 do HSUPA?
well...
i'm living in ISRAEL,
and we have GSM network but we also have another cellular company that work with "UMTS 2100/850" band..
i'm working well on 3G with the 2100 band (my onmina have only UMTS/WCDMA 2100 only without 850 also..)
i will be happy to open if it's possible the UMTS/WCDMA 850 also.. so i'll have both 2100 + 850 on WCDM/UMTS (not GSM) freq...
but i'm not shure it's possible to open what ever you like.. anyway i'll try to ask our guys (at my cellular company i'm working at) about this freq stuff...
hope this thread will bring us good information..
also, just know.. my job is with Cellular phones.. and we have "for Testing" Omnia phone with WCDMA/UMTS 2100/850 bands..
but i don't know how i can download the firmware to my pc and try to use it on my omnia back...
if anyone know how i can "take-out" the firmware explane to me and i'll try to do it....
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Someone else has further evidence:
http://www.modaco.com/content/i900-...6374/open-omnia-umts-wcdma-850-900-1900-2100/
OK guys,
i had this omnia in my hands..
the Version says
PDA: i900LJJHK1/JJHK1
PHONE: i900LJJHK1
as i think.. it's diffrent model.. I900L this "L" model.. not like ours phones... (i think, it's looks exactly the same!)
i don't think the ROM will chane the bands anyway..
anyway as you asked me to do.. when i'm doing the *#2263# code
i'm getting diffrent menu then our Omnias..
i'm getting 3 options that one of them it's "WCDMA Band Select" and in there you have ALL the UMTS bands and there is "Automatic" option.. what says this phone open to all kind of UMTS networks............ (including GSM also..)
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jakeordie said:
juvaknin, you posted this on Modaco as "PHONE: i900JJHK1" without the L. Please let us know which one it was. Thanks!
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yes, it was suppose to be with "L" mabe i forgot it on Modaco forum
anyway i hope this is only Rom issue... but anyway i can't "Rip" the rom right now.. because this phone is 24/7 testing time and i can't "make it gone" from the test station to drop the rom to my PC
i hope there are more guys who have this I900L to share the rom with us..
anyway you remmeber the code that you can change the phone settings buy country?
the main code is (type it from the dailer) *#1546792*#
and the password for section "2 - Preconfiguration" is *#81230*#
it's looks like if we will have the code for the "Internal" section, mabe we will find something in there ?!?!
if we will change to another country.. like Austrlia or something.. the bands will change also? what you guys think?
Hi juvaknin I was reading on web that this i900L is for latinamerica and its frequency was
Cellularhone
Cellular_Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Cellular-Data;Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
found this at hxxp://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1446
change the xx for tt. Also wher did you buy this phone this info is real ?
juvaknin said:
OK guys,
i had this omnia in my hands..
the Version says
PDA: i900LJJHK1/JJHK1
PHONE: i900LJJHK1
as i think.. it's diffrent model.. I900L this "L" model.. not like ours phones... (i think, it's looks exactly the same!)
i don't think the ROM will chane the bands anyway..
anyway as you asked me to do.. when i'm doing the *#2263# code
i'm getting diffrent menu then our Omnias..
i'm getting 3 options that one of them it's "WCDMA Band Select" and in there you have ALL the UMTS bands and there is "Automatic" option.. what says this phone open to all kind of UMTS networks............ (including GSM also..)
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I live in southern africa where its still going to be some time before the G1 is launched.
It would be possible for me to order the US G1 from ebay but I am concerned about the network band because firstly I want to know that the phone will at least work on the regular 2G network (1800 in my country) for the usual phone calls and then of course I want to be able use 3G for Internet access. I don't know the 3G frequency in my country but the service has been available for over a year already.
Is it a software restriction which can be resolved by updating the firmware at a later stage or is there actually different hardware for the model being released in the US and those being released in other countries like the UK?
Thanks!
Take a look here to find the UMTS frequency that your carrier uses (of course, call to double check):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks
It hasn't exactly been confirmed yet, but the G1 is supposed to support both 1700+2100 (UMTS IV) and 2100 (UMTS I) networks. Since African carriers are all using 2100, you should have no problems getting a 3G signal without having to worry about hardware/software compatability. You should also confirm that your carrier will provide the approrpiate connection settings in case you need to set it up manually.
The G1 also comes with quad-band GSM/EDGE, so you will certainly be able to receive 2G signals.
However, keep in mind that the first batch of G1s will be locked to T-mobile. You will need to make sure that you get a carrier-unlocked device in order to use your carrier's SIM.
fhsieh said:
Take a look here to find the UMTS frequency that your carrier uses (of course, call to double check):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks
It hasn't exactly been confirmed yet, but the G1 is supposed to support both 1700+2100 (UMTS IV) and 2100 (UMTS I) networks. Since African carriers are all using 2100, you should have no problems getting a 3G signal without having to worry about hardware/software compatability. You should also confirm that your carrier will provide the approrpiate connection settings in case you need to set it up manually.
The G1 also comes with quad-band GSM/EDGE, so you will certainly be able to receive 2G signals.
However, keep in mind that the first batch of G1s will be locked to T-mobile. You will need to make sure that you get a carrier-unlocked device in order to use your carrier's SIM.
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Thanks, that makes me feel more comfortable with ordering a G1 from the US.
I was just concerned because I read somewhere that the US version does not work in AUS so there obviously are problems in some countries with the bands. The UK version will apparently work in Aus.
Again, I want to emphasize that you need to make sure you have an unlocked version. When you first turn on the phone, you are required to log into gmail (or create a new account) over a 2G/3G network. If you are unable to login (because the phone has not been unlocked to work on your carrier's 2G/3G), you will not be able to use the G1 for anything other than emergency calls. You won't even be able to enable WiFi to handle the login.
http://androidcentral.com/g1-wont-work-without-a-data-plan-period/
If at all possible, I would advise waiting at least until some other folks have tried bringing the G1 to other networks so that you know what exactly you will have to do to get one working on your carrier.
Thanks again, I will definitely ensure that I do not purchase a network locked G1.