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Who know what is the icon "G" for ? next to the signal icon & speaker
GPRS network detected!!
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GPRS network detected!!
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even I do not have GPRS setup on my XDA2?
Apart from the setup, the network is all around you. So: YES, the Radio detects it and then shows this 'G'. Maybe it even stands for 'Gee look what I found: GPRS availability' :wink:
On my MDAI & II this Icon is shown when i connect to a GPRS Network, not when it is found.
The G appears when a GPRS network is detected as being available for connection, regardless of whether you are connected or not.
Patrick, this sounds different for you, maybe your ROM/Carrier has something we don't.
cheers,
Alex.
I also tried my XDA3 and it is the same. When i boot th device and it is logged on to the network i just get the signal strength.
When i then start a connection(over the ConnectionManager or the RasApi, same behavior) the G Icon is shown when connection starts.
Weird, my G always appears just after I switch the phone on when I wake up in the morning. I never connect my GPRS unless I need it - worried about frying my nuts when the xda is in my pocket (you never know, I might need them again one day).
rgds,
Alex.
Hi,
On my device and all our local phone network here. You will only get the "G" icon only if you have subcribe to the service. The general observation is that the icon will stay for about 5 to 10 second after the phone radio is switched on and disappear afterwards. You can also check it by clicking the signal strength icon.
The correct term should be "attached".
By default, your phone will search for GPRS on radio start, and when it finds the one you belong to, it attaches to the GPRS network -- thus the symbol "G".
But this doesn't mean you're connected, only that you're ready. You are only connected to the GPRS when you click Connect ...etc, when a username & password is verified.
So, generally speaking, you'll need to see the "G" before you can go online on GPRS.
basically it just tells you that GPRS is available.... if your connected you'll see the two arrows above the signal icon in the taskbar instead of the antenna shaped one...
Anyone know how I can force my mini s to disconnect from GPRS after it has checked my email?
Si.
press and hold the red phone button (hang up) for about 5 seconds - you should see it switch from GPRS (small [G] icon) to 'GPRS Available' (large [G] icon)
I'd rather it did it automatically - so I can leave it alone all day and it will connect to check now and again then disconnect.
same problem here. is there a fix?
also when i have forgot to disconnect am i paying for gprs? or is it just any content i download?
cheers.
GPRS is paid for by data usage, not connection... so you can leave it connected (so long as nothing is downloading in the background!)
V
cheers vijay, but have you got a workaround for original question?
on my old c500 when i had finished getting mail it automatically switched itself off.are we missing something?
vijay... unfortunately, at least on my Qtek 9100, there's always some data sent.. very infrequently, but over a day of no activity, the GPRS Monitor application that came with it reported 200KB traffic. So I always make sure to disconnect regardless
ZeBoxx: it doesn't surprise me. At least in theory, you only pay for data transfer on GPRS, not time connected like on dialup. However, I think activesync is an unpredictable beast at bet. I never use GPRS - so for me, to ensure I'm completely disconnected I use a dummy grps account.
futuresbright: I'm working on a set of such tools, but I believe there's already a command line tool to disconnect GPRS. I haven't made one yet that will automatically disconnect after checking email. I have to work on a related app, so I will try to look into the question, but I can't promise any time frame I'm afraid
V
Yeah, the monitor comes with a little icon on the Today Screen with which you can explicitly enable/disable GPRS as well. So obviously it can be done by external software
GPRS disconnect on O2 XDA mini S
If I tap the GPRS icon on the top bar when I have a GPRS connection up, I get an option to disconnect it (and it works!). I too don't like the thought of racking up data calls even though it is supposed to be packets switched not circuit switched.
no worries vijay,thanks for your time.
will just have to remember to switch off manually for now.
Hey,
I'm experiencing a strange problem with my hermes.
The device wakes up often without a reason. The effect is the following:
. device wakes up
. the connectivity icon changes from 3G to H, means HSDPA connection built up
. spb gprs monitor shows different amount of data transfers
If I close the data connection manually with the red hook on button, the effect doesnt appear any more. So I guess this in an inbound connection made to my device. But how can that be???
Does WM wakes up on inbound connections? How can I find out, which data is being transfered? Are there any network monitoring tools for WM?
Is it right, that to wake up the device from a program that makes an outbound connection an entry in the notification list has to exist? There is nothing. No notification that could wake up the device.
Need help!
Device seeks automatically the strongest signal around. If you stay in an area with both types of signal you will find frquent flipping in and out of 3g UMTS. You may not have experienced this but it can also lead to the dropping of calls also.
You can use Danielherrerro's bandswitch application aka commmgrpro that allows you to easily choose which bands to turn on off.
Mike
I think you misunderstood.
Chaning the band doesnt normaly lead to download traffic.
Btw. I selected gsm instead of gms & umts in the phone options, so the device cant switch. Still waking up and producing some traffic. This effect wasnt there til last week.
Mine does this because it checks for mail every 15 minutes, do you have mail scheduled???
good luck.
Oggy.
LaroCroft said:
I think you misunderstood.
Chaning the band doesnt normaly lead to download traffic.
Btw. I selected gsm instead of gms & umts in the phone options, so the device cant switch. Still waking up and producing some traffic. This effect wasnt there til last week.
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My bad. Ogier is right, it must be an app. that's connecting - possibles include:
Mail
Weather apps
Sync apps - time sync etc
Mike
Gprs Today Plugin
<seems like an 'in-topic' post>
anyone have any good suggestions on a today-plugin that shows wifi/gprs connection? My theme does not show the connection icon (3g,g,e,etc.), so I was looking for somethig that would show with conenction I was using as a today plugin. Something like the one shoen here in custels rom.
I would use spb gprs monitor, but for some reason all spb applications show this really annoying this line at the top of my screen, so I have given up on spb. any other ideas short of dumping custels ROM? thanks
Definitly dont think thats an application
Problem occurs only if a data connection is still active. If I disconnect manually no wake up occurs.
Seems device is waken up from an external source?!
In the Comm Manager, I try to switch Data Connection (HSDPA for me on Orange UK) off, but it keeps coming on.
I don't want it on!
Is there a better way to keep it switched off until I request it to be re-enabled?
Should only come on when an app requests data access. Have you got something running in the background? Quickgps perhaps?
i can't turn mine off via the Comm Manager unless i put the phone in GSM only. fyi, the HD 3G bands don't work in the US.
Windows Live Messenger is running in the background but that should be sorted by the WiFi which is on.
I go into the Proxy Settings for Orange Internet and untick the box that says that "this connects to the internet". But then it automatically ticks itself again and connects!
Perhaps it's an Orange problem?
Don't think so - I'm on Orange too and it doesn't happen. Anyway, it's the phone's choice to connect to HSDPA, it has to actively make the connection.
My best guess is your phone is losing connection with your wifi for short periods, and thus resorting to the backup hsdpa.
I think I've found a solution:
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/11...nternet-hspda-gprs-3g-edge-off.html#more-1863
Download here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
EDIT or here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/34306709/f45622d6/NoData.html?start=
Aren't you confusing 2 icons ?
The big plain H only means that SSDPA is available on the network. This doesn't mean you arer *using* HSDPA at this time.
The icon to look at is the one just on the right of the big H. When you are using HSDPA, it shows a little H with 2 arrows below. If it shows an antenna with the signal level bar below, you are not using HSDPA, but only GSM.
At least it's the way it works on mine. As soon as I need data transmission (like for weather forecast), it uses HSDPA since it is available. Otherwise, it uses GSM. Therefore,
mine turns itself on when i recieve a mms....could you be recieving one?
Close all applications using it!
Sometimes I forget to close Opera after using it, and it happens to me too!
hey do you all know top right normally show 3g right? But when it shows a big "E" or big "G", what's the Meaning of that??
I have tried to disable data connection for auto connect, so sometimes i see this 2 big letters appear. Can anyone explain to me pls?
Is it still connected? Really thanks for your advise.
it is still connected however it is on a 2g (slower) connection
oh man.... last month it cost me a bomb with auto internet connection! Then i install BSB Tweaks to disable it. If as you said, "E" or "G" is still connected, do you have any idea how to manually turn off the auto connect function?
Please kindly advise. Appreciate your time...
G is afaik for GSM..the standard connection, but the slowest.
E is for EDGE...its a faster gsm afaik.
3G stands for UMTS and
H is for HSDPA...the fastest available speed for the HD2.
use google or wikipedia for further information.
DN41
edit: its only connected, when the little letter is over the little signal strength.
if there's only the big letter, your phone isnt running a data connection.
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oh man.... last month it cost me a bomb with auto internet connection! Then i install BSB Tweaks to disable it. If as you said, "E" or "G" is still connected, do you have any idea how to manually turn off the auto connect function?
Please kindly advise. Appreciate your time...
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Do a search on here for 'nodata'. It totally stopped Internet connection for me, except when I wanted it.
or go to settings/connections/connections "programs automatically connects with"...set "firma", because that means w-lan (sorry, thats german ) and not your internet, i.e. "E-Plus Internet"
DN41
DN41 said:
G is afaik for GSM..the standard connection, but the slowest.
E is for EDGE...its a faster gsm afaik.
3G stands for UMTS and
H is for HSDPA...the fastest available speed for the HD2.
use google or wikipedia for further information.
DN41
edit: its only connected, when the little letter is over the little signal strength.
if there's only the big letter, your phone isnt running a data connection.
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Are you saying that if there is only the big letter, even the data connection is up, but i wont get to pay any internet charges since there is nothing to connect?
If use nodata.cab, does it mean i also cannot connect to WIFI? or just cut off the data connection only?
I think this problems is frustrating all the HTC HD2 newbies out there~~
whizzkid_cool said:
Are you saying that if there is only the big letter, even the data connection is up, but i wont get to pay any internet charges since there is nothing to connect?
If use nodata.cab, does it mean i also cannot connect to WIFI? or just cut off the data connection only?
I think this problems is frustrating all the HTC HD2 newbies out there~~
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Nodata only effects telephone data connections, it does not effect WiFi, Bluetooth or GPS.
If you see JUST the big letter G, 3G, E or H then it means that service is available but not being used. If you see the big letter AND the same letter, only smaller, in the telephone signal strength icon, then you are connected to your telephone operator's data and you will be charged (unless you have a data plan).
Just for clarity, G is for GPRS (The slowest data), not GSM
Most data plans bill you by ammount of data transferred, not time connected, so just being connected isn't in itself gonna cost you. There are plans that bill by the minute, but not many.
Also, as fred said above, in your bar along teh top there are two icons, a large one to the left, which shows G E H, whatever, this one is only showing you what connection is on offer from your network, not what you are connected to. To the right of that is your signal icon, and that too shows G E H etc. It is the one on the right that shows how you are actualy connected.
you want an explanation of all the top-bar connection related icons? see my reply in this thread (its the first post after the OP):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679280
hopefully you'll have no further doubts after reading that.
thank you all for explaining for me! You guys are great! I truly appreciate your helps with the precious answer.
But after i disabled the data connection, weather cant be updated anymore. How can i update it using wifi? ?