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Got my G2 on Wednesday and managed to throw it on concrete on Saturday. Scratched the crap out of the screen and case, thought this can't get any worse and then the screen cracked when I touched it. The screen still works but the outer casing is messed up. Sent it off to T-Mobile so hopefully it won't cost too much to fix.
I am pretty p*ssed off at how easily this phone broke. I have subjected my Vario III to some fairly serious abuse over the last 18 months and it still works fine. This phone on the other hand is wrecked after one measly drop.
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Got my G2 on Wednesday and managed to throw it on concrete on Saturday. Scratched the crap out of the screen and case, thought this can't get any worse and then the screen cracked when I touched it. The screen still works but the outer casing is messed up. Sent it off to T-Mobile so hopefully it won't cost too much to fix.
I am pretty p*ssed off at how easily this phone broke. I have subjected my Vario III to some fairly serious abuse over the last 18 months and it still works fine. This phone on the other hand is wrecked after one measly drop.
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Ouch man that sucks, to be fair tho there not really designed to take that kind of abuse, also the Vario III is a brick compared to the hero lol, you could probabyl drive a car over it.
i gess its the price we pay for lighter thinner more streamlined phones.
I'll have to be careful then I threw my magic across the road. - It skidded across before I could stop it. It ended up with a few small circular cracks where I could see that the material under the plastic coating is deffo metal. Not a mark on the screen, because the curves at the top and bottom of the magic protected it.
Reckon its worth condsidering a magic handset when the price comes down a bit. Lots of folks slagged it off for looking plasticky but its a tank of a handset underneath.
I'm passing mine on to my brutish boyfriend, cos I know it can take some knocks. Then again maybe it just fell right? and yours just fell exactly
wrong. Certainly wouldnt be dropping it again to check if it is robust LOL
But you have my every sympathy - I'd be gutted
Some might have took out insurance as I think you can for 7 days after you bought it. Glad to see your honest
I found the Touch HD really solid and resistant I'll be carrefull with my Hero witch is coming soon
YOu threw it on concrete, what do you expect? Simple physics, concrete is harder than the material the Hero is made from, so when the two meet with force the Hero will lose, no matter how hard the plastic its made from. It's not diamond coated.
It was very tempting to take out the insurance but I was already covered on my home insurance so I thought I'd rather take a bigger excess hit than go along the fraud route.
RichDog, I'm afraid collisions between complex objects are never simple physics. Concrete is hard but the phone will have many different properties such as the elasticity of the plastic casing and maleability of the metal casing. Both of these act as shock obsorbers to disipate the energy of the impact, hence why almost all mobiles would have survived wih minor scratches. Mobile phone designers should incorporate a certain amount of impact tolerance into their products as almost all will be dropped at some point in their expected life. Mine only dropped from a height of three feet, a fall which almost all mobiles will have survived with minor scratches.
I remember dashing my Trinity across the Office some time ago after finishing a phone call to my provider about something, (never down anything like that before in frustration) what a very robust phone indeed
My HTC Diamond was submerged in some puddle outside while it was raining, didn't realise until I couldn't find the phone in my pocket, and even then it was still working.
Your just a bit unlucky.
Hopefully it was just bad luck but I would not be surprised to see a lot more of these phones break pretty easily. The problem is the large screen which isn't sunk in, makes it very vulnerable when dropped.
Mines in a rubber case already - I'm learning from scraping my Google IOn.
Daisy
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Mines in a rubber case already - I'm learning from scraping my Google IOn.
Daisy
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Hi daisy did you get a black or white one in the end im still waiting on mine. Its at the post office as i wasn't in today?
Sorry for off topic
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YOu threw it on concrete, what do you expect? Simple physics, concrete is harder than the material the Hero is made from, so when the two meet with force the Hero will lose, no matter how hard the plastic its made from. It's not diamond coated.
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My thoughts exactly. Also note that capacitative touch screens are made of glass, not plastic, so they are not as crack-resistant as resistive touch screens, which only have a vulnerable glass layer UNDER the plastic later.
So it's really not fair to criticize the durability of the device when you're the one who was careless. Remind me to try that line at the chinaware shop next time I'm in it -- drop a couple of expensive dinnerware, then blame the shop and manufacturer for making plates that are not as tough as the plastic ones I have at home!
I can't wait till I can throw my diamond of a roof when I get the Hero
The normal speaker has broke, but the loudspeaker still works I mean What the F is that
I'm not trying to say it wasn't my fault, all I was saying is that it unreasonable to expect a phone not to have some form of impact in it's life. Maybe I was unlucky and it landed badly but if they are truly this fragile then I can guarantee that there are going to be a heck of a lot of disappointed people with broken Hero's.
Just an update in case this happens to anyone else. It cost £96 to get it fixed through T-Mobile. Took over a week and a half before I got the quote but once agreed the phone was back at the store within a few days. The £96 was for the replacement glass window and casing.
Hello everyone.
I got my HD2 a couple of weeks ago and as usual with new toys, am still taking some extra care with it. I had a Touch HD before that withstood quite a few bumps and two small drops. I saw people carying iPhones in pants pockets, back and front. Given that HD2 screen is significantly larger, how fragile is it, really? I usually carry my phones in jacket pocket, screen towards the body, without any case or sleeve. Do I need to take so much care for it or is it actually more resilient than it seems? Yes, I've seen the threads with broken screens. Anything can break, given enough force.
Any serious feedback is welcomed. Thanks.
Cheers, R
Well I have had mine since it was released in the UK and have had it in my right hand side front pocket in my jeans/trousers etc, sat on floors etc and all sorts and nothing has ever happened to it at all. Its a pretty tough screen I think, as long as when its in you pocket its not at an odd angle, I cant see any problems keeping it in there. I certainly have no problems.
Scratch test
There is a YouTube video of a scratch test of the screen of an HD2, its in foreign but gives a good idea of its screen tolerances (those of a nervous disposition may wish to look away towards the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s
Hmm I can only speak for myself and my HD2... but my screen has 2 (really small) scratches..
I think these are from a keychain or maybe a lighter in my pocket. I don't really know where the came from - but not from dropping it.
I would recommend to use a (thin - not that thick vikuti) foil to protect it against scratches.
--> Question: What would you recomment regarding a foil to cover the screen? I bought 1 Vikuti foil and really disliked it - it is sooo thick
Edit: I think the knife in the video would be able to scratch the screen... only a matter of right angle an pressure
I dropped mine on new years eve - drunk and the only thing i noticed the following day was that i had lost the backplate lol
Someone on here very kindly gave me a replacement.
Other than that - no scratches so far
Had mine three weeks, using front trouser pocket though I am very conscious of checking the pocket for keys etc first.
I have a full body invisibleSHIELD skin, and i'm extremely happy with it.
I've knocked it a few times on the edge of tables and chairs, once on the metal hand grip on a bus seat, and theres not a mark on it anywhere.
I have a screen protector that covers the entire screen, and carry the phone in my pants pocket in the leather case that came with the phone (I'm waiting on a holster from eBay).
The screen is in perfect condition, however, I did scuff the corner of the HD2 by dropping it (in its leather case) as I went to put it in my pocket coming out of a movie theatre...dropped onto cement.
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I use a screen protector and have a very nice silicone case for it that fits very snug, but I'm just being careful.
I believe that common sense is enough to keep this device from being damaged. As you can see from the linked video above, the screen is very resiliant, but it's not scratchproof. Also, why on earth anyone would put it in the back pocket of their trousers and sit down is totally beyone me, but people have done it (and probably still do), but they end up on here asking how to fix their damaged screen. (My advice to them is to hook up a flex capacitor to their car, drive at 88mph, go back in time to before they broke it and slap themselves round the face and say "STOP BEING SILLY!!!")
It's tough, but not unbreakable. Just treat it with respect, look after it sensibly, and DO NOT PUT IT IN YOUR BACK TROUSER POCKET OR FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
As the meerkats say... simples
(I hate those adverts, but I do like Back To The Future )
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FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
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Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?
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Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?
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lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>
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lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>
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Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.
Spike15 said:
Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.
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Yes, and even moreso if you have a hernia! Good to see that xda is also responsible for good health advice too
I can't wait for mine to arrive next week. I can tell you from experience that the IPHONE has cracked 3 times in pocket when I put too much pressure. Apple does replace them on a regular basis. They allow for what they call a hairline. If it spiders they won't replace it but a hairline is within their tolerance and is common enough for them to replace it without question. That is how I ended up with a new replacement recently. I wasn't using the phone much but my HD battery died on site so I put the time into the IPHONE to use it. I squatted with the IPHONE in backpocket and CRACK. I probably should check my beltline while I am at it..
They replaced it and that worked out anyways as I am going to sell it. Keep my HD and Bold as backup.
The glass looks pretty solid and as many people reported it a good solid piece of hardware.
i keep mine in the case it comes with when i am carrying it around... any pocket really.
i just make sure i dont sit on it! lol
the screen itself is extremely resilient when it is out and in use.
I leave mine lying around all of the time out of the case and it still looks brand new.
I dont use any screen protector.
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being a kapasitive screen it uses a propper glass cover instead of ****ty plexi glass or resistive glass as most phones use, this naturally gives it a more scratch proof serface but makes it less resilient to actually breaking. like one guy said it all has to do with angle and preshure.. and abit of bad luck when it comes to screen protection i recomend invisiShield. they are nice and thin, VERY clear plastic so it doesnt disturb teh screen quality. and last but not least, the fabric its made of is teh same as teh stuff that they use to cover helicopter rotor blades with, so it comes with a 30 year waranty.
Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R
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Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R
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I had the same fear with its screen .. i posted a poll on the screen
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618978
I've heard of this problem happening on other devices (see here, here, here, and although not what mine looks like, here), but I was wondering what I can do about this problem. This is called Newton's Rings, I believe, and there's a nice wikipedia article about it. Apparently it's a problem under the screen.
It's an oily smudge. It appears to be made up of asymmetric rainbow-colored rings and is apparently under the screen. It is only visible in indoor lighting in certain angles, and is less visible when the screen is on. When pressure is applied around this spot, it appears to shift slightly. It's been present for over a week on my device without much change.
The HD2 has a capacitive screen, so the method to correct these spots (the "duct tape method") is said not to work. How can I fix this problem? I'm pretty sure I didn't cause it since I was careful with my device--it could have been there (most likely) from the time of purchase.
Should I ask for an exchange at my local T mobile store? Should I try duct tape or a vacuum cleaner to suck the screen forward, or should I try to open the device up and detach the screen, or should I beg for a return?
Help!
PS: You might want to check your HD2's as well...
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I think you would have to have a resistive screen to even have this problem. A capacitive screen doesn't have these "layers." And, it requires a curvature to induce the inference rings which a hard glass screen with no layers doesn't have.
I followed a couple of them threads some time ago, and if I remember correctly some users which had this problem you're postin' about have had their hd2 replaced by htc cause it should fall under warranty terms. Return it to your local t-mo store and ask for a replacement. Should they deny that, try calling htc customer care and see if you can send it in to corporate for repair/exchange. I'd recommend that you try official ways first before attempting to disassemble it or to fix it by yourself as you may end up voiding your warranty..
Since you have a US T-Mobile HD2, and it has been less than 14 days and within the return period, you should be able to get it replaced at the store.
This is obviously a problem with the screen and you shouldnt try to fix it in any way. If you have installed or modded it in any way then return it to stock condition and take it back to your store. They are obliged to give you a replacement as it is a faulty unit. do not accept anything less.
Mark.
First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
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First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
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I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
chrys9989 said:
I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
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LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
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Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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Alright. Well, my apologies for the "disrespect".
I'm merely saying that a screen sleeve, protector, or WHATEVER is how someone could go about preventing the oil corrosion that occurs from natural skin oils on the screen.
This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
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This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
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I had exactly the same situation with my old Hermes (going back quite a few years). I got it through the post from Tmobile and was playing happily with it for about half an hour until I noticed an oily patch exactly as you describe. Rang up Customer Support and they asked me if I had sat on the phone or knocked it in any way.. And this was after having the phone in my possession for 30 minutes HAHA in the end they told me to take the phone to the nearest store to confirm the problem and I got a straight replacement.
I think its caused by a leak in the LCD. You can try, as sugested on other threads to get some tape and try to pull the glass away from the liquid but this would only really be worth trying if your phone was out of manufacturers warranty. Since you have not had your phone long at all you are entitled to a direct replacement under the Sale of Goods Act.
Going back to earlier posts, too much pressure could cause this sort of problem but as stated with a good quality glass which the HD2 has this is very unlikely unless you had an elephant sit on it
More likely the LCD is defective and if the oily patch is noticeble to you then the seller has no other recourse. If I was you I would deal with this matter as soon as possible though so that you get a stisfactory result.
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Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
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Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
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All touchscreens suffer from defects (yes even ipdods and iphones lol). The trick is to send it back the moment you spot it and not sit on it and wait, hoping it will go away. It wont. You can use the tape method to pull the screen away from the bleed but the liquid will still be there and sooner or later it will just come back.
I noticed a bleed on my OLD hermes the day I got it from brand new, rang up the shop (tmobile uk) and they tried to tell me that I must have sat on it or dropped it. Everyone who purchases a device has a right that it will work for a 'reasonable' amount of time without defects appearing so you have to push your rights and get it changed (not fixed) for a new device.
If your device is out of warranty and you have a bleed on the screen the only thing you can really do is change the screen. These can be found on ebay and not that hard to do. For your Touch HD you can get one *HERE* but you have to weigh up whether its cheaper to just buy a new device or fix the one you have.
And I dont really think atmospheric pressure between different places would have any affect as lcd screens are built to work pretty much anywhere and if that was the case every time someone got on a plane their device would go capput.
Mark.
i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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Mark.
A few days ago, I managed to drop my HD2. This would normally be a bad situation at the best of times, but this was from the top of my stairs at home. The phone fell through a gap in the bannisters and fell SCREEN DOWN on a stack of CAST IRON weights that were stacked on the floor below! I would've bet a lot of money that the phone would've been very badly damaged and was FULLY expecting to find the screen totally smashed with tiny splinters of glass everywhere. I trudged downstairs and, fearing the worst, picked the phone up and turned it over........ the screen wasn't smashed... it wasn't even cracked. I put the battery back in (which had been fired across the room from the impact) and turned it on... PERFECT. The case wasn't even marked or scratched.
Don't get me wrong, I count myself freakishly lucky, but I was truly staggered the phone survived that fall in the WORST of circumstances and didn't even get a scratch.
Just thought I'd share!
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No case. Phone was naked.
astonishing..
I am amazed as well at the durability of the hd2. Dropped a 3 month old iphone about 15cm off the ground and shattered the screen. Annoying cause of the $ but was an iphone so didn't really concern me greatly. Someone got a used ipod as the phone part died. Anyway so when i was putting stuff in a cupboard with the hd2 in hand inside the stock leather pouch, i tipped the phone upside down by accident trying to keep the pile of junk in the cupboard from crashing down and out of the pouch she slid. This dropped almost 2 metres onto concrete tiled flooring on the top right corner of the phone in what i can describe as an almost vertical fall. I was thinking that the screen was long gone too but to my amazement she was still running fine with only a very slight warping of the hard plastic shell in the corner from where it hit. You have to be looking for it to see the warp that is how minute the damage is but i think i tempted fate once too much also. But hey... a really good phone that has survived a bit already. The only downfall so far is it turns on easily when in your pocket on the plane.
it is tough. accidentally dropped mine from the dressing table to the hard woord floor. did not find a scratch
you guys are lucky, back in february when I'd only had mine for 5 days I dropped it taking it from my pocket, just over a metre, shattered the whole screen to pieces, still used it for a week or so before the touchscreen failed to, god bless insurance!
i felt it 4 or 5 times on the floor witbout one scratch, to be honest only few ones barely visible on the battery cover like 1 or 2 mm long. probably lucky too.
now ... i use my fixed on my motorcycle (gps), went for a 7 days trip with you can guess, a lot of vibrations and sun heat. nothing
I read on here somewhere that the screens most likely to break if the first contact between the phone and the floor is the bottom corner near the hardware buttons because of the gap for the buttons which makes sense........
I would have just sat at the top of my stairs crying if I was the OP.....
Lucky lucky lucky.....
The center of the screen is the place for it to be hit. It's the strongest part of the display, the further out from the center you go, i.e. the edges, the weaker the display gets.
Try smashing a window hitting it in the center with a bat, it will just bounce right back at you with considerable force, hit the corners and you'll get a lot less recoil and you have a much higher chance of shattering the glass. Of course this is just a very crude example of what I mean.
id say you just got lucky
I wish the crap LCD panels HTC use for the HD2 were tough. I have had to return mine twice since I got the phone in November due to developing white patches on the display.
Strange that my 3 year old 2G iPhone doesn't have the same issue.....
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I wish the crap LCD panels HTC use for the HD2 were tough. I have had to return mine twice since I got the phone in November due to developing white patches on the display.
Strange that my 3 year old 2G iPhone doesn't have the same issue.....
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And I am sure that someone with an iPhone is saying the same about HTC phones. It swings in roundabouts, no manufacturing process is perfect.
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Try smashing a window hitting it in the center with a bat, it will just bounce right back at you with considerable force, hit the corners and you'll get a lot less recoil and you have a much higher chance of shattering the glass. Of course this is just a very crude example of what I mean.
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You owe me a new kitchen window.
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And I am sure that someone with an iPhone is saying the same about HTC phones. It swings in roundabouts, no manufacturing process is perfect.
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I must know about twenty people with iPhones and can't think of one who has had a single hardware issues with them. A couple of them dropped their's which resulted in cracked screens but that applies to any device with capacitive displays. I'm not an iPhone fanboy here, I love my HD2. But despite Crapple being **** when it comes to their obsessive control of what the end user can do (which renders their phones unusable without a jailbreak in my view), they are renowned for the quality of their hardware and for good reason.
I just find it annoying that I have had to return my Leo twice for exactly the same issue without treating it any different to my numerous other phones, and I have no doubt the same thing will happen again within 3-5 months. This points to shoddy materials.
Wish I could say the same for my HD2. Slipped out of my hand the other night and onto concrete from about 4 and a half foot up. Screen is cracked all over, gutted. I've dropped it before but its just scuffed the rubberised edges, made a right meal of it this time.
Pagnell said:
I wish the crap LCD panels HTC use for the HD2 were tough. I have had to return mine twice since I got the phone in November due to developing white patches on the display.
Strange that my 3 year old 2G iPhone doesn't have the same issue.....
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sorry for possible hijack, but were those patches that bad? I have some, but I am not bothered bout them as I can only see them browsing xda developers. (whiteish background )
Kalavere said:
The center of the screen is the place for it to be hit. It's the strongest part of the display, the further out from the center you go, i.e. the edges, the weaker the display gets.
Try smashing a window hitting it in the center with a bat, it will just bounce right back at you with considerable force, hit the corners and you'll get a lot less recoil and you have a much higher chance of shattering the glass. Of course this is just a very crude example of what I mean.
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Good to know even the common house thief has knowledge to share with the community
bronx said:
sorry for possible hijack, but were those patches that bad? I have some, but I am not bothered bout them as I can only see them browsing xda developers. (whiteish background )
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It doesn't stop the phone being usable, but why should I put up with a defective screen on a phone that costs this much?
Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!
Hey, i droped it many times and nothing happens.
Sometimes from 150 cm and a bit more and less.
I have thrown my Diamond down the street many times on a night out, but I would never want to drop my HD2 outside of a case, the entire front of the phone is glass, so you may get lucky a couple of times you may not. I wouldn't want to take the chance, it's expensive to replace.
I've dropped my HD2 a few times, most recent was when my mate rugby tackled me on a night out and broke my hand in the process, the HD2 survived almost unscathed due to it being in its case, although there is now a tiny chip on the front-facing bezel above the headphone socket where it meets the glass.
I never bothered with a screen protector and the screen looks as good as new and I've had mine since Nov2009. It's a tough little phone. As long as you keep it in its case when its not being used you will be fine.
hardik119 said:
Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!
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If you're that clumsy, I'd suggest you keep it in it's case Hardik119 as Murphys law says you'll drop it as soon as you take that cover off?
Hulmeman said:
If you're that clumsy, I'd suggest you keep it in it's case Hardik119 as Murphys law says you'll drop it as soon as you take that cover off?
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hehe, i can see tomorrows post already
'so last night i fumbled whilst taking the case off and the phone exploded into 900 pieces'
hardik119 said:
Hi,
Got my HD2 couple months back and using it with silicon cover since beginning but now I want to take the cover off and show the real beauty of the phone to everyone but I am too scared to take the silicon cover off because I am clumsy and I drop my phone way too frequently.
I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it??? can people share some experiences like oh I dropped it from 5ft and it was intact or oh I dropped it from 2ft and the screen broke etc etc.
I used to have HTC Kaiser/tilt and I dropped it way too my times without any covers but it never gave up on me.
PS: I know there is no real way to define durability of a cellphone but u know there are some cellphones which are really delicate and u have to handle them with extra extra care. While there are some like the kaiser who are made for rough use. Just want to know which category our HD2 belongs to?
Sorry for the double post, by mistake i posted it in accessories section!
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It's great, I dropped it several times from 0.5m-1.0m and it's working perfectly ATM.
Had mine for 9 months now, never put a silicon case or it or screen protector. Only use the leather-ish case that came with it, have dropped my HD2 loads of times. I am litterally the worst person with phones, i had four new phones in a 2 year contract before this because i am so clumbsy, including the kaiser and tp2. HD2 is far more resilient and mine has not noticable marks on it.
Maybe i'm lucky with this phone, but i have seen videos of hd2 and iphone being pushed together screen to screen and the iphone breaks way earlier and considering the screen is that much smaller more pressure would be technically be being applied to the HD2.
Dust in your HD2's USB port is more likely to break your phone than dropping it.
The screen is gorilla glass, check out youtube for some videos of guys trying to break or scratch it, not easy! As for the case, I dropped it a couple of times on asphalt, and while the case looked fine, there is a rubbery edging around the screen that did get gouged. You can't really tell by looking, but you can feel it.
Such a classy device needs to be treated elegantly!!
A screen protector is a must have.
And to show off with ur sexy phone use a OEM leather pouch (slim and rich looking) that can be bought from ebay with a reasonable price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Leather-pou...389855?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item415267839f
for such a big screen with lots of glass, its pretty tough, im a bit clumsy with phones, like some, i dropped by LG BL40, good job, it was ****e, but screen shatterd, chucked it in the bin and got this...always used the pouch, but had it out playing music, a broom(yes a broom) fell over and i have a c shaped scratch, drives me mad...but did scratch easier i thought..the case marks pretty easy to. But for such a large phone, thumbs up.
sevoflurane said:
Such a classy device needs to be treated elegantly!!
A screen protector is a must have.
And to show off with ur sexy phone use a OEM leather pouch (slim and rich looking) that can be bought from ebay with a reasonable price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Leather-pou...389855?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item415267839f
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not sure I agree with the screen protector. I can never keep one on the phone, it will be on for a couple of months, then start annoying me and I take it off. The screen is very scratch resistant and I don't tend to drop phones. It stays in it's bodyglove kickstand case (which adds a little lip to the edges) and goes in a leather beltclip case.
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I know the phone looks very durable but exactly how durable is it???
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The screen is very durable. Over the 9 months I've owned my HD2 the screen hasn't had one scratch on it despite no screen protector.
Drop it and one of two things will happen: nothing or total destruction of the screen.
Unfortunately, after 9 months of being careful I recently dropped my phone onto concrete from about 2 feet and the screen is totalled
The problem lies with the thinness of the bezel where it meets the screen (it deforms easily) and the tight tolerances of the join between the bezel and glass.
The combination is deadly and any design engineer ought to have noticed that at pre-production.
Someone at HTC sacrificed how the phone felt in the hand to how the glass screen reacts to side on pressure as a result of the bezel deforming on impact.
I'd be happy to have a chunkier bezel with just a few more mm of metal on the bezel if it prevents deformation on impact.
The phone is insured but I'll probably get reamed at policy renewal time next year.
the hd2 is durable as far as drops go (i don't use a case) - i've dropped mine twice, once on a wooden floor from about 5 ft up,no damage, and once onto concrete from the same height,only damage a very tiny dent/scratch on the corner of the case where it hit the street.
however, do NOT believe the bull**** about the screen being super scratch resistant !! after only two weeks of GENTLE use,and only being kept in my back pocket with nothing else,there was a one inch scratch across the front. i know,i saw the videos as well, but the fact remains. it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
GET A SCREEN PROTECTOR IMMEDIATELY !!!!
Neither case nor screen protector has (or will) ever touched the perfect curves of my hd2. Furthermore, it has seen a heavy ammount of abuse.
As far as dropping it goes... I wouldn't reccomend it. Mine has survived chest high (I'm 6'4") drops on to concrete (landing screen first) and not broken. However, many a sad story has been told by users with falls from lesser heights. The unlucky folks notwithstanding, I have to say that the screen is certainly well-made. In the 6+ months I've owned it, the screen remains conspicuously scratch-free. It should be noted that I often take out my car keys and and aggressively assault the screen with them (to the horror of onlookers). I also regularly lay my device down face-first. Still can't seem to find a single scratch.
As previously mentioned, I do not have or use a case of any kind. I keep my phone on me at all times in my front pocket (screen facing my leg). This includes when I am at work. I work... at a warehouse. Which means my hd2 gets to enjoy pallets, boxes, and various other blunt-force trauma slamming against it in my pocket. Here's what I have found.
The parts that are NOT so tough:
1) Battery cover.
I have noticeable scratches and marks on the battery cover. There is a thin coating on it that will flake off after a certain ammount of abuse.
2) The flash.
My led flash was dislodged slightly (some time while at work) and pressed up against the vibration motor. Although it was easy enough to fix by popping the phone open and remounting it.
The parts that ARE tough:
So far... everything else.
jamima69 said:
it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
GET A SCREEN PROTECTOR IMMEDIATELY !!!!
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No. It really doesn't. Whatever happend to your phone to cause a scratch is unfortunate... but it is the exception, not the rule. When I am unable to INTENTIONALLY scratch something, aforementioned "thing" can not be considered "easily scratchable".
I dropped mine from 4-5 feet high a few times (a couple onto concrete) and it was fine.
Then yesterday I dropped it from 2 feet high onto a wood floor and the screen was totally destroyed. Must have just hit at the right (wrong) angle...
Also, my screen has several scratches on it, so saying it is EXTREMELY scratch resistant is BS. However, now that my screen is destroyed anyway, I tried scratching it with a key, and knife, a pushpin, and a couple other things (haven't tried my wife's diamond ring, heh) and cannot for the life of me scratch it. But it DID get scratched somehow... and one of them was there after only a few days of use.
jamima69 said:
however, do NOT believe the bull**** about the screen being super scratch resistant !! after only two weeks of GENTLE use,and only being kept in my back pocket with nothing else,there was a one inch scratch across the front. i know,i saw the videos as well, but the fact remains. it scratches,and it scratches pretty damn easy.
GET A SCREEN PROTECTOR IMMEDIATELY !!!!
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the one inch scratch on your HD2 is very unfortunate, but does not mean at all that it scratches "pretty damn easy". At this point I totally disagree. I have my HD2 now for more than 1 year and I'm a heavy user, but after all this time there is not one single scratch to detect on the screen. I must say though, that I always have my HD2 in a leather belt case when not in use, but never used a screen protector on my HD2.
So in conclusion: the HD2 does not scratch easlly at all, but you have just been unfortunate and very unlucky.
regards, Kuzibri
I've recently replaced the screen in my HD2 because the old one had sustained some serious damage through an unfortunate encounter with asphalt. The device can handle some serious punishment, but the screen can crack quite easily when dropped just the wrong way. I've heard the screen can handle 400 newton of force which is quite a lot, but a 1 meter drop and slide across asphalt was too much.
Also, the screen is almost scratch-free except for sand! Sand can scratch the screen easily (had it in my pocket when working on the beach) so use a screenprotector when in a sandy environment.
While the phone is durable, it is always a good idea to to have the phone in a gell case to keep it from getting mangled when dropped. having owned several touch phones I have not found a need for a screen protector as I do not put my phone face down or in a pocket with other things...