Ok so I trashed my ppc doing the radio update. Since I did the exact thing that Freshster did here is a cut and paste of my problem
" So, I tried running this TMO 4.00.10 upgrade in order to upgrade the radio stack to 6.24.00. While it was doing the radio stack upgrade, it failed at 13% complete. The error told me to "reset the device normally, wait for the radio stack to repair itself, reset the device again normally, then try to run the upgrade again."
After I did the normal reset that it told me to do, my screen got stuck on the ROM Kitchen boot screen and only showed a G, R, and 4.00.05 at the bottom corner, without showing a radio version or protocol version number. The led would not light up anymore. It did not flash green to show that it had signal, and it would not even show orange when it was connected to a charger. "
At this point Im SOL until tomorrow b/c I dont have a SD reader, my question is, can I upgrade the radio via the SD and hopefully get things going again? Or do I just attempt to reload a whole new rom and rsu via the SD card tomorrow. Thanks in advance for your help.
This is just a suggestion, I don't know if it will work.
1. Bootup in the Wallaby Boot Loader (hold power button while soft reset)
2. Press Calender button to bring up radio stack selections
3. Select turn off GSM
4. Reset and see if it will boot up when it doesn't have radio turned on
5. If it will, then set in active sync in guest mode
6. copy the RSUpgrade files to your window directory on the device using the explorer option in active sync
7. copy the two monitor files monitor_ul_bs.map and .m0 to the windows directory
8. reomove the device from the active sync
9. using the explorer on the device find the RSUpgrade executable in the windows directory and double click
10. this should start the radio upgrade going again
GOOD LUCK!
Thanks for the suggestion, I tried it but now luck. The pda stays stuck on the rom kitchen boot up screen. Thanks again.
OK, I had the exact same problem. You have to be patient, when you reset the device you'll get the R blank / G blank because the existing radio stack has now been trashed. eventually the PPC OS will boot. At this point reset again, wait for CE to boot & then reset again, The point is keep resetting the PPC every time you get the R Blank & G blank screen and wait for CE to boot. ON each reset the radio stack upgrade is working in the back ground. After 4 or 5 resets mine came up with R 6.24. at this point I connected the PPC back to Activesync & reran the upgrade & it went through just fine & installed the T-Mobile WM2003 ROM
Pdageek1 is right on the money! But I'll add one more step, remove your SIM card. HTH
I will try this on my way to work. I have another question, is the unit still charging when its on the base even though the charge light is not on? Thanks
I had same problem, if you flash with old t-mo rom it boots up everytime and will allow you to reflash radio stack.
http://www.t-mobile.com/pocketpcupgrade
hello pdageek and thanks for the suggestions. I have left my unit on at the splash screen with the blank g and r for about 5 2 minute sessions with no luck. Im hesitant to leave it on too long and have it eat up my battery. How long in total did it take your pda to boot up with the corrupt radio upgrade?
Sirseymore, the problem I have right now is that I cant even get it past the splash screen, since the OS is not booting up I cant see the unti via active sync.
You can't just it leave setting there with the blank screen you have to keep
doing the soft resets, until it boots!
Also to speed things up a bit during some of your soft resets try holding the volume control button, it similar to holding the hand of a sick person.
I know it sounds funny but hey what the hell, I did it! :wink:
One last note it also might help if you do a hard reset while holding the volume conrol buttom. I know that also sounds funny but hey I did that too! :wink:
HTH
Thanks for all your suggestions everyone. I ended up loade the latest tmobile rom via the loader, I let the pda sit at the Tmobile splash screen for 15 minutes until it booted into CE. Next I copied the necessary files for the RSU into the windows folder, ran the executable and all is working now.
Once again thanks for all the great people in this forum.
bimmer10 said:
Thanks for all your suggestions everyone. I ended up loade the latest tmobile rom via the loader, I let the pda sit at the Tmobile splash screen for 15 minutes until it booted into CE. Next I copied the necessary files for the RSU into the windows folder, ran the executable and all is working now.
Once again thanks for all the great people in this forum.
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When you say Latest tmobile rom do you mean the 4.00.10 or the latest rom off of Tmobile's Website?
I got the same problem as you did blank g and r
Let me know Thanks, Allen
I'm in the same boat. I was running 4.00.05/stock 6.18 RS on T-Mobile USA.
I decided to try to do the Radio Stack upgrade by copying the extracted rsupgrade and monitor files to the device, and running them. It hung at 13%, so I soft-reset, and it hung at the blank G, blank R, 4.00.05 screen.
I tried turning GSM off in the bootloader, and have removed my SIM card. No luck.
Then, I flashed to the 4.00.10 ROM via bootloader, and I'm still sitting at the G/R screen. I have soft reset a few times, but that hasn't gotten me anywhere. I haven't left it for longer than 3 minutes or so before I get so anxious that I try another soft reset.
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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I'm in the same boat. I was running 4.00.05/stock 6.18 RS on T-Mobile USA.
I decided to try to do the Radio Stack upgrade by copying the extracted rsupgrade and monitor files to the device, and running them. It hung at 13%, so I soft-reset, and it hung at the blank G, blank R, 4.00.05 screen.
I tried turning GSM off in the bootloader, and have removed my SIM card. No luck.
Then, I flashed to the 4.00.10 ROM via bootloader, and I'm still sitting at the G/R screen. I have soft reset a few times, but that hasn't gotten me anywhere. I haven't left it for longer than 3 minutes or so before I get so anxious that I try another soft reset.
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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Well i just got mine working FINALLY, what i did was flashed the rom to 4.00.10 and then did a soft reset let it sit for 15 minutes and then it came to the Align screen blah blah blah So just be patient and let the device sit for 15 minutes or so
Good Luck
Reflect said:
Well i just got mine working FINALLY, what i did was flashed the rom to 4.00.10 and then did a soft reset let it sit for 15 minutes and then it came to the Align screen blah blah blah So just be patient and let the device sit for 15 minutes or so
Good Luck
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I let mine sit, and after about 15 minutes, it did finally come back up. I was able to copy the files and manually run the 6.24 RS upgrade, and I think everything is going to be OK now.. *crosses fingers*
I let mine sit, and after about 15 minutes, it did finally come back up. I was able to copy the files and manually run the 6.24 RS upgrade, and I think everything is going to be OK now.. *crosses fingers*
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Well mine is working very good i havent came acoss any errors yet All i did was do the regular upgrade to 4.00.10 and got to 13% on Radio Stack Upgrade when it errored so i took it out did a few Soft Reset's no luck so i flashed the 4.00.10 Rom through the wallaby bootloader got it up waited patiently for CE to load... loaded after about 15 minutes at that time it was running terribly slow and when i got it up i had no service because i had no Radio Stack so i then loaded up this old radio stack well not so old but it was version 4.21 i then soft reset the device started the 4.00.10 install it went through the Radio Stack then the Rom update with absolutley NO errors or conflicts so everything is working great..
Heres something to keep in mind DONT Upgrade To Tmobile Rom 4.00.10 With the radio stack version A.20.10 Or you will be doing what i had to do!
i want to say thanks to all the great people out there posting
Thanks, Allen
JoshB said:
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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My suggestion is this when you're in deep dodo, try it all! :wink:
Because as your seeing what works for some doesn't always
work for others.
Reflect, sorry I wasnt able to answer the specifics of the rom earlier, I was talking about th 4.00.10 version. Im glad you were able to fix the problem. :wink:
After waiting the 15 minutes to recover from the blank G/R screen, and successfully upgrading the Radio Stack to 6.24 and the ROM to 4.00.10, I've been using it for a day or so now, and I am pleased with the new ROM and radio stack.
Biggest plus for me is that GPRS now stays "always-on", even when the unit is turned off/suspended. I also like the fact that AIM 2.0, and PDF/PowerPoint viewers are included in the ROM.
As far as stability, I have had a couple of lockups (cleared by soft resets), and one spontaneous soft reset, but these could have been caused by software that I have installed (SpB GPRS Monitor, StocksAndWeatherToday, Journal Bar, Battery Bar, PocketNav, AE Uptime, Fonix VoiceDial Premium, Resco Explorer 2003).
I have had a couple of instances where the GPRS connection stops transferring any data, but still shows as connected. Since there's no way to turn off GPRS (SpB GPRS Monitor has a Disconnect button, but it doesn't seem to work), I can clear this condition by turning the phone off (not the unit, but the phone/radio) then turning it back on and reconnecting GPRS.
Thanks to everyone on this forum for your help, support, and ideas! This is a great amateur developer community.
JoshB
P.S. - Reflect, sorry I didn't answer your IM. I was in bed...
OK, I am going to try this once more since I can't stand having a useless phone...lol
I *had* the 4.00.05 ROM and the newest at&t radio stack on my T-Mobile phone (with TM service).
Attempted to install the T-Mobile 4.00.10 rom and associated radio stack via the .exe method over that, and it failed.
After that, I tried reverting back to the old T-Mobile 3.14 rom, via the sd card method. That seems to have loaded, but the GSM is still screwed.
Currently, when I start up the phone, I get the Welcome to T-Mobile startup screen, with 3.14 in the bottom corner. After a minute the G with no number after it is there, and below that, instead of an R is a U? (Maybe because I don't have the sim card in?) With no number. Then I get the "bing" sound, and it goes to a blank screen.
Reading through the posts here, it sounds like I should write the 4.00.10 ROM to the unit with the SD card, then wait for it to start up?
Should I have the sim card in?
When should I try the soft-resetting?
Just as an update, so far so good. I wrote the 4.00.10 rom to the unit with the sd card. Did a hard reset like it told me to. Now starts up with the T-Mobile Test only Not for sale screen. Shows 4.00.10, G with nothing after it, and R with nothing after it. It now stays at this screen though, instead of going to the blank screen. I guess this is a good sign, I am in a position others have been in. Yay! Waiting on it now to do something...anything, and I will attempt the radio fix.
Before anyone ask's I have read all the posts regarding installing the Hard SPL but still have the same problem.
When I connect through Vista 32 via WMDC it recognizes my device fine, I then follow the steps in the tutorials but as soon as I press the button to update the ROM image it goes into the 3 colour screen and then into the updating ROM progress bar were it sits at 0% for ever.
My WMDC has disconnected at this stage and then I get a screen saying communication error which is obvious as WMDC has disconnected.
Is this a WMDC issue/ Vista or am I missing something
I then have to soft reset and it just re boots into my standard ROM.
Any advice woiuld be greatly appreciated
hello
1) connect your polaris to PC
2) run update utility
3) when you see 3 color screen unplug USB and replug it immediately
4) your SPL flash may start
5) when flash end correctely your polaris reboot
6) Flash any ROM you want
Thanks for the quick reply.
Tried doing exactly as you have stated.
Unplug and reconnect in the 3 colour bar screen, after which it goes into the updating screen and sits at 0% for ages until communication error comes up.
My WMDC has disconnected and does not reconnect.
I'm at my wits end!!
Do it from MicroSD, before format it in FAT 32, after rename the file .nbh in POLAIMG.nbh e copy in your microSD, put microSD in Polaris e put it in bootloader ( photo + softreset ) you will see something like IPL, bootloader, SPLASH1, SPLASH2, gsm & OS, press POWER button and wait, it might be long,
never put off microSD, when it finishes soft reset, in the same way you can flash any ROM, always format microSD before.
Do it from MicroSD, before format it in FAT 32, after rename the file .nbh in POLAIMG.nbh e copy in your microSD, put microSD in Polaris e put it in bootloader ( photo + softreset ) you will see something like IPL, bootloader, SPLASH1, SPLASH2, gsm & OS, press POWER button and wait, it might be long,
never put off microSD, when it finishes soft reset, in the same way you can flash any ROM, always format microSD before.
I think hard-spl can not be installed with sdcard method!
Why not ??? With Trinity you can do it.
cheers guy's for the feedback ,but not sure about the SD method unless someone can confirm it works for Orbit 2/ Cruise.
Somebody out there must have had the same issue as me regards this....what did you do to resolve.
Cheers
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Why not ??? With Trinity you can do it.
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But this is not Trinity...Try it...
I know You can flash polaris if you use jumpspl (this is used by hard-spl flash) or hard-spl (this is used by os and radio flash).
But if you have original spl on you pda, and you want to flash with sd card, you will not use nor jumpspl neither hard-spl.
mikee5402 said:
cheers guy's for the feedback ,but not sure about the SD method unless someone can confirm it works for Orbit 2/ Cruise.
Somebody out there must have had the same issue as me regards this....what did you do to resolve.
Cheers
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hi there.
try to hard spl with your sd card not in the device.
go in to bootloader mode (BL mode - by pressing down the Camera button, then using the stylus, press and hold the RESET button at the bottom of the phone and release when tricolor screen appears),
now connect the device to your pc (it should show usb in the white part)
flash what you may... hard spl first, oli's recomended by me.
ItayE,
Did you try the hard-spl flash with sd method? Does it work?
I didn't read it was Vista compliant so I ran it from a windows XP SP2 machine with Active Sync 4.5.
I did mine by taking out the SIM card and the SD Card then resettting and running the HardSPL.
HTH
Leon
Cheers for the advice guys I have managed to do it.
I used the Hard-SPL-V2 first which worked fine then I flashed to one of A.Serg roms, very nice and quick it is too.
However my reception bars are down to 2 from 4 that I previously had, although the reception seems ok.
Sim: O2 UK
Rom: 1.52.ASerg.4 WWE
The radio version I have is: 1.58.25.14
Now this is were I am confused.
Can I flash the radio Rom without affecting the o/s Rom, I have downloaded a couple of radio rom versions but not sure if you do it the same way as I am scared of over writing something.
Also could anybody advise if they are in UK on O2 which version gives best reception.
Any further advice much appreciated.