well so much for $20 for unlimited GPRS from t-mobile...
it's now FREE!!
I just found out T-Mobile has free unlimited GPRS.
The thing is, it's limited to webbrowsing and POP email.
If you pay $0, you get access to ports 80, 110, and 25. it's supposed to be wap only but it accesses http sites as well.
downside: cant access ssl, ftp, instant messenger, etc (anything that uses other ports). for that, you have to pay the $20 per month.
i just dumped my $20/month plan this evening cause i can do without those other ports, is it wooth $20/month to use IM? i dont think so. free unlimited gprs webbrowsing owns
oh yeah, and the aim client on the ppc can be set to port 80, so it works.
now i switched from internet2.voicestream.com (which stopped working for me once i called in and cancelled the $20/month data plan) to wap.voicestream.com and i still browse sites, send email, etc.
no bank site access (ssl) but bank access isn't worth $20/month, i'll wait to be on my desktop for that.
-arebelspy
you are a... GENEOUS!! (is that how its spelled? )
now, have u figured out how to get and send MMS from pocket pc, without ordering Tzones? :roll:
MMS is no longer part of the T-Zones. With the same changes for the "Included WAP Access" also came "Unlimited Picture Messaging". They've made it where you don't have to do T-Zones for sending/receiving MMS. HOWEVER, you are charged $0.25/MMS that you send/receive. There is a promotion for $4.99/mo that gives you Unlimited Picture messaging through 12/31/04. After that date it reverts down to 50 for the $4.99.
Hope that sheds some light now on the matter.
Thanks for that info. I'm Looking forward to using it when i get my XDA II in a few days.
They won't list zero cost features on the site. All phone plans come with the free WAP access now. If your phone isn't working with it, contact Customer Care and ask them if it's on your account. They will add it i'm sure.
It was originally setup to allow customers to download ringtones and wallpaper without signing up for the monthly fee. Seems like this is a small little suprise for us tho!
I tried it and is not working for me. Are you sure that I can just call CS and they'll add it to my account?. I don't want to spoil people's luck. Maybe is an oversight from them
Ive used both, and if your not going to use the gprs for anything too overbaring go 4 it, but with the wap access, it limits alot, plus is significantly slower
btw: im sure TMO will charge u for sumthing extra sooner or later
(pps) (i have a feeling there are undercover TMO employees spying) :!:
you need to use the address wap.voicestream.com
it's not slower, it's the same speed.
it is limited in that you only get web browsing and emails (ports 25, 80, 110 and 143 for smtp, http, pop, and imap respectivly), if you want all the ports (for instant messaging, ftp, ssl, etc) you need to get the $20/month data plan.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=237460
-arebelspy
i guess this is all US based stuff. Any ways to get cheaper/free GPRS in UK anyone?
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it's not slower, it's the same speed.
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so then why was it that when i was downloading a 2mb file it would take 15-20 minz....not it takes 5-7 minz :?:
OK, I tried and it keeps not working for me, I called T-mo and they say that that is only for regular handsets, that for us, we would need a data plan, they even xferred me to tier2 people, (which were clueless) and he said that in order for me to take advantage of the internet, I have to pay.
I said for the to reset my settings in their end, but they said that they have nothing to reset, since I don't have any data plan.
I have tried all, changed the internet2.voicestream.com for wap.voicestream.com, try making a new connection, with all those settings, and nothing. Anybody know any clues?
try internet3.voicestream.com
-arebelspy
internet3.voicestream.com is for their VPN option ($19.99/mo)
internet2.voicestream.com is for their non-VPC option ($19.99/mo)
wap.voicestream.com is for their WAP service (all other devices)
I thought I also saw somewhere the address wap.myvoicestream.com. Now I can't remember which one works.
internet3 has worked for some people without data plans (only the free wap service). no idea why.
try them all to try to make it work, lol.
-arebelspy
Arkhangel said:
I thought I also saw somewhere the address wap.myvoicestream.com. Now I can't remember which one works.
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Yea its the T-Zones home page, try it and see ( http://wap.myvoicestream.com ).
Oh yea I forgot to mention that it only works with a WAP browsers.
HTH
what are the instructions for setting this up? I just opened IE and it works but I wonder if im being charged per minute?
Nope, T-Mobile no longer counts MBs, minutes, anything. Every plan has free browsing (free access to ports 25, 80, 110, and 143).
-arebelspy
can't email other than optonline???
i have the imate ... i set up the account with my email as [email protected] using mail.optonline.net incoming /outgoing now i can recieve from everyone ..i can only email out to another @optonline.net account .......no @aol.com or business account [email protected](my business address at work)... so what iam doing wrong....please help
I swear! I didnt think T-mobile could get any ... more ... better than AT&T. I was, once again, wrong.
the pge http://wap.myvoicestream.com does not seem to come up on PocketIE - a post above says that PIE can handle wml pages...
So, is the address incorrect, or is it PIE that cannot handle WAP?
J
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So I have read plenty of times about people access the Tmobile data without having a data package. Currently I do not have a data package, I took it off my plan. I wanted to know if someone could help me out with the connection settings for a Tmobile wing. I keep finding instructions for free internet but its for the dash and i dont have a couple options they are asking for. I have a Wing with touch it 2.3. What do i need to do, delete the old settings and add new connections?? help would be awesome, anybody that is working with the wing or that rom that could help, or point me to a thread, i would appreciate it tremendously. Also, i'm in Orlando and i have seen posts of people here in orlando with the dash getting free internet.
Thanks guys!
I've always had the data plan, so I don't know. But here's a post I found in another forum
qwikndrty said:
I upgraded to WM6 and these are the settings that work for me just fine, now I got to figure out how to get Windows Live to work
T-Mobile GPRS
Connects to: WAP Network
Access Point: wap.voicestream.com
User name: ______
Password: ______
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0 (I used 216.155.165.50)
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP Address: ______
Start>Settings>Connections>Proxy
T-Mobile Proxy
Connects from: WAP Network
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy (nameort): 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP
User name: ______
Password: ______
Start>Messaging>MMS>Menu>Options>Account Options>MMS>Menu>MMSC Settings
T-Mobile MMS
MMSC URL: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
WAP Gateway: 215.155.165.50
Port: 8080
Connect Via: WAP Network
Max Sending Size: 300k
WAP Version: WAP 2.0
Preferences
Retrieve Immediately
Save Sent Messages
Allow Delivery Report
Allow Read Report
No. of Attempts: 3
Photo Resolution: Original Resolution
In addition to above these need to be set:
Start/Connections/Menu/Advanced
All should be set to Automatic
PIE/Menu/Tools/Options/Connections/
Auto Detect should be Checked
Select Network: WAP Network
1. With these setting you can switch automatically from GPRS to WIFI seamlessly.
2. At the Windows Media Mobile site, Windows Media Player will play streaming video.
3. You can also connect to T-Mobile Web (http:/wap.myvoicestream.com
4. You can send MMS or pictures via POP email
These setting will allow virtually everything to work with the $4.99/5.99 T-Mobile Web Plan. Using alternate setting can work for somethings but not all.
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Thats just about correct. I actually just figured it out before you posted. Thank you anyway.
BTW any possibilities of making the homepage google?
Im answering my own question but thought others would find it usefull too.
To do this you have to edit the registry. HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/AboutURLs. Then there is a value for "home" Change it to whatever. You have to put http://
The dataplan is only $20, lol.. I'm gonna laugh when these guys try and get "free" internet then all of sudden end up with a $400 data bill.
For years, I've been paying close to $40 a month for the data plan ... so when they took it down to $19, I'm not complaining.
I had the data plan when it was $9.99 or $11.99 @ month and all the sudden they canceled out the whole data plan and stuck me with t-zones. I got back on the data plan but was bummed they screwed me over. In case anyone doesn't know the t-mobile data package comes with "Hotspots" but you have to configure it on a separate web page. Good Luck getting CS to explain how to do it they will try and sell you another package along with the $19.99 fee. But "Hotspots" is part of the data package already.
Well, I had the data plan for a long while and realized that the amount that i use it, it truely isnt worth the money for the amount that i use it. I am on a flex pay account, prepaid, so i pay for my service a month in advance and I keep no money in my flex account, which is where they deduct charges that i pay for per service (data, minutes after i exceed my total, text messages etc) I dont know how they would charge me if that was the case
I use the data plan like crazy... various of my email accounts come to my phone directly and I use IM and all sorts of craziness on there ... so I would die without it. hah
is it free???
someone plz reply,
i dont have any data plan on my tmob wing,and i did setting in wap according to above and i am able to get internet,
i have question is it free??
i just started using it recently and i have not got any bill yet,do they charge for this???
help plz i am newbie did search but couldnt fine any post which say free...
plz
for someone using open touch 3.0 biggy can they help with the proper settings? i am unable to get this to work. when i have it setup i goto IE and load pages the error i always get is Error not authorized.....
worked flawlessly thx
vr24 said:
The dataplan is only $20, lol.. I'm gonna laugh when these guys try and get "free" internet then all of sudden end up with a $400 data bill.
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yup cuz while we have unlimited they're gonna be charged by their usage and its def not cheaper.
I put together these cabs for T-mobile data plans. I have the $5.99 plan so I haven't tested the other ones, but people have told me they work.
the $5.99 cab automatically sets up the proxy.
All the cabs set up connections so that GPRS is not used unless no other connections (WIFI or Activesync) are available.
MMS (for ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1 but it probably works for other versions) sets size limit to 600k and will not resize pictures (I think T-mobile limits MMS data to 300k).
Cool, members are always looking for tmob setup cab's!
So, gprs internet2.voicestream.com is part of the 29.99 plan cab?
Yes:
29.99 = internet2.voicestream.com
39.99 = internet3.voicestream.com
I think they must've changed prices...
Which one do I use if I have the unlimited data for $20/month?
Thanks
tweker said:
Which one do I use if I have the unlimited data for $20/month? Thanks
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I'm now on that $20 plan and have been using the internet2 connection...
This was the ONLY way I could get the 5.99 t-zones plan to work on my windows mobile 6.1 tilt. Great work man!
Close, but....
joemanb said:
the $5.99 cab automatically sets up the proxy.
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Well, it half works. Before using your CAB, I couldn't get Opera Mobile 8.65 to connect at all through the proxy on my HTC Touch Cruise. Now, I can make normal connections in Opera through the proxy, but still can't get HTTPS to connect. No problems connecting with wifi.
UPDATE 10/29/07: I had occasion to revisit these cabs when my friendly neighborhood IT group screwed up my network connections with some automated script they forced down my phone. After running tmobyjoe599.cab again, things were all fixed. I also had no problems with HTTPS and Opera.
I think t-mobile blocks the port on the $5.99 plan. HTTPS uses port 443. You could try some different ports and if you find one that works, let me know and I'll update the CAB.
The settings for Tmo's proxy are:
HTTP 216.155.165.50:8080
WAP 216.155.165.50:9201
Secure WAP 216.155.165.50:9203
Socks 216.155.165.50:1080216.155.165.50:1080
and this is what my system shows. The Tmo proxy is unauthenticated, so I tried to test against it using my laptop and wifi. Manually setting the FF3 HTTP proxy to 216.155.165.50:8080, and leaving all the other proxy options blank, I had no trouble bringing up HTTPS pages.
maybe it has something to do with the access point (wap.voicestream.com)
joemanb said:
maybe it has something to do with the access point (wap.voicestream.com)
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That's not really an access point. It's a conventional proxy which serves to restrict most anything but web or mail access, but otherwise doesn't restrict traffic.
MDA T-Mobile software questions
joemanb said:
I put together these cabs for T-mobile data plans. I have the $5.99 plan so I haven't tested the other ones, but people have told me they work.
the $5.99 cab automatically sets up the proxy.
All the cabs set up connections so that GPRS is not used unless no other connections (WIFI or Activesync) are available.
MMS (for ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1 but it probably works for other versions) sets size limit to 600k and will not resize pictures (I think T-mobile limits MMS data to 300k).
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Would someone kindly explain what the above cabs are for? I don't want to make any assumptions, but do the cabs provise software to make an unlocked HTC Wizard work as if its a T-Mobile device at the various rate plans - assuming your sim has that plan?
Is the $5.99 the prepaid plan?
I just bought used MDA and am using my prepaid SIM. Having trouble with tzones working - though admittedly it doesn't do much.
Thanks in advance for the help.
tried but didnt seem to work on vs 24 rickywatts 6.1
does this still work?? i have a tmobile wing with touch it rom
The only way to find out if it works for YOU is to try it. Please let us know....
great work!!
Works like a charm! I thought they might have shut down the proxy for the 5.99 plan. Is there a MMS cab that I didn't see? Again thanks alot.
Should I delete all my existing proxies?
I have proxy settings in
settings..Connections....Proxy
should I remove them before applying the tmobyjoe CAB?
what is the "new-inet:1159" proxy server in the Kavana ROM? Is that just rubbish or what?
Also, I don't understand why there are so many proxies and connections. Is there something I can read to understand the relative significance of
"work" "TMobile MMS" "Tmobile Data" "WAP Network" "Secure WAP Network" and "The Internet"
and then the various proxies that route to these various networks?
I don't get why it is so complicated and why I need so many networks and proxies and so on.
i can recieve my yahoo emails giving me cannot connect with this settings?
i can recieve my yahoo emails giving me cannot connect with this settings? i had it working but now its not connecting to recive my emails
Hey everyone. I've added the $5.99 service to my account and I've tried both manually entering the settings and I've tried the CAB for the $5.99 service. No joy...
I can't download email and when trying to browse the web at all GPRS connects, the page tries to load and then I get the following error:
"Error: Requested content
'www.google.com/' cannot be accessed.
You do not have access to the site."
What am I doing wrong?
Also, in the GPRS Settings do I want PAP Auth. or CHAP Auth. selected? It's on PAP Auth.
I live in Denver, CO, if it makes any difference.
Thanks!
EDIT: Interestingly enough it's working now... of course something else had to break, I can't connect to the net via USB now. No biggie, never used that anyway.
I just called T-Mobile to add the $5.99/month T-Zones web plan for my Wing, however the rep told me that this plan is not available for accounts with the wing phone. She then tried to sell me the $19.99 data plan, which I declined.
After paging through MyTMoblie account, I found that nowhere does it even mention the $5.99 plan.
To add the plan, you must click the "Not your phone?" link in the upper right hand corner of your MyTMoblie account after logging in. Change your phone to something which will be compatible with the tzones, I picked the RAZR V3. This doesn't give you an upgrade phone, you're not buying anything, this is just TMobile's way of tracking which phone you are using.
Now under the "My Account" tab, choose "Change serves" and add the $5.99 tzones web plan!
Hope I can help someone else out!
i dont think there the same speed but i could be wrong
morbid said:
i dont think there the same speed but i could be wrong
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What are the same speed? The RAZR and the Wing?
It doesn't matter, the Tzones works for any phone configured with the correct proxy, but some reps want you to go for the $20/month full internet plan. If you heavily use the net on your phone, then maybe the full plan would be best for you, but if you are only a lite user, the 5.99 is much more practical for e-mail, weather, etc.
i have the 5.99 plan and i cannot use email or weather.
how do you use it?
search!
kidnamedAlbert said:
i have the 5.99 plan and i cannot use email or weather.
how do you use it?
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You can use the search button here to look up t-mobile Proxy. There have been numerous threads on how to set up the proxy in Windows Mobile
I have been using this proxy for a long time.. I started with tzones back when it was 4.99... glad I save a whole dollar every month.. gonna be rich soon!
Any way to get the T-zones wap browser back once you've flashed your Wing? T-Mobile has closed the proxy hole, and now I'd like to test out T-MobileWeb and see if I like it or if I should drop the $5.99
yea, my wing wont use t-zones... every website comes back with a can't b displayed or w/e it say's....
any1 with us service that uses it till this very day fine??
cuz i got it taken off my account... wondering if i should give it another try
It's been working for me since November 2007, I am in the Northeast USA.
Other than not being able to access Hotmail/MSN Messenger/HTC Home weather, everything else works.
I have been using the T-zones proxy for over 1 year in MN with no problem. I have flashed numerous roms in that time and have no problem setting it back up each time. I also use internet quite often and don't find it to be much, if any slower than the 20 dollar service.
Also, if you flash Trans Open-Touch V6.5 and use throttle launcher the weather will work properly even with the proxy. I have not been able to get it to work with HTC home though.
how to do that??how to insert diferent data?
Go to Settings
Go to Wireless Controls
Go to Mobile Networks
Then select ACCESS POINT NAMES
From there press MENU
Select NEW APN
From there you can input all the settings, then press Menu to SAVE or DISCARD
thanks but i did that, but can not navegate, i created
name: T-Zone
APN: wap.voicestream.com
Proxy: 216.155.165.50
Port: 8080
APN type: http
for default MCC=310 MNC=260
-question. i need all apn that coming with the phone?
-how the phone select the apn that will use?
thanks
nxt said:
Go to Settings
Go to Wireless Controls
Go to Mobile Networks
Then select ACCESS POINT NAMES
From there press MENU
Select NEW APN
From there you can input all the settings, then press Menu to SAVE or DISCARD
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Dream on 2.99 T-zones data plan partially working
Hello - I was wondering if anyone else there is still on the 2.99 T-zones data plan or 5.99 data plan with the dream. I put in the wap.voicestream.com APN and the proxy so now the browser works but no email or google maps or anythign else.
With epc.tmobile.com I have no data.
Anyone else seeing the same results?
This is weird becuase on my unlocked iphone everything works great with epc.tmobile.com
t-zones on the dream? thats like putting hubcaps on a bently. it just ain't right.
same for me the only email that work with 5.99plan is yahoo, for gmail and for hotmail i use live connection and some time give me fail connection but almost time work
viprvette said:
Hello - I was wondering if anyone else there is still on the 2.99 T-zones with the dream. I put in the wap.voicestream.com APN and the proxy so now the browser works but no email or google maps or anythign else.
With epc.tmobile.com I have no data.
Anyone else seeing the same results?
This is weird becuase on my unlocked iphone everything works great with epc.tmobile.com
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i did , only have to leave in blank (apn type) and worked,
satru said:
thanks but i did that, but can not navegate, i created
name: T-Zone
APN: wap.voicestream.com
Proxy: 216.155.165.50
Port: 8080
APN type: http
for default MCC=310 MNC=260
-question. i need all apn that coming with the phone?
-how the phone select the apn that will use?
thanks
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double thread
I put in the old wap.voicestream.com and the proxy. I am only getting the browser to work and it does work on 3g. Everything else times out...(google maps, email, etc..)
anyone else get it to work?
donutman said:
t-zones on the dream? thats like putting hubcaps on a bently. it just ain't right.
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Nah its just the name of the plan from 6 years ago. Through the proxy it opens up the ports. I use etc.tmobile.com on my unlocked iphone and everything works.....I wonder what is different....
donutman said:
t-zones on the dream? thats like putting hubcaps on a bently. it just ain't right.
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Lol that's the best thing i've heard in a while. Mind if i quote it in my sig and on my website?
tokomoto said:
Lol that's the best thing i've heard in a while. Mind if i quote it in my sig and on my website?
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go ahead I don't mind at all.
I hope T-Mobile shuts off all of these free riders
were not free riders were just people who are smart enough to make the system work for us. If your in an engineering position and your able to get the same effect from a lower costing material, you would be stupid not to, and most likely fired. A person who takes tax breaks when hes paying his taxes is not stupid, but he is essentially doing the same thing we are. dont hate just because we are able to pay less for the same result you are getting. thats just my 2 cents, and im hoping the tzones plan will work on the dream as it has on my wing, 8525 and Dash.
molesaied88 said:
were not free riders were just people who are smart enough to make the system work for us. If your in an engineering position and your able to get the same effect from a lower costing material, you would be stupid not to, and most likely fired. A person who takes tax breaks when hes paying his taxes is not stupid, but he is essentially doing the same thing we are. dont hate just because we are able to pay less for the same result you are getting. thats just my 2 cents, and im hoping the tzones plan will work on the dream as it has on my wing, 8525 and Dash.
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So you're saying T-Zones will be on 3G? Sorry, but I am fully aware on how to do this. Nothing to do with ignorance. The system isn't "working" for you and your analogies are far off.
"If you can steal a big screen TV and pay the employee 100 bucks to look the other way, why pay full price for it" would be a much better analogy.
But either way, it may work for awhile longer at 2G speeds. I am sure that it won't be indefinite though. T-Mobile knows what phone you're using by it's IMEI. They're not stupid and will figure out your "black box" method. Would be awesome if they back-charged you for theft of service.
viprvette said:
I put in the old wap.voicestream.com and the proxy. I am only getting the browser to work and it does work on 3g. Everything else times out...(google maps, email, etc..)
anyone else get it to work?
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Soo you can still use the brower and it will be at 3G speed with the only 5.99 trick ? if i can get this confirmed i may get the G1 =] im on a T-Mo Wing now =]
Edit: My guess is with time there will be a way to use the Maps software as well.. i dont rly care about email, just browser and Maps ( maybe some apps that need internet access but i think that will be the easiest of all to adjust, Maybe a 3rd party maps software will emerge ?)
Edit2: Also since you guys are talking about it i guess you can get the G1 without adding the data plan (i thought it was required) can u activate the device w/o the G1 data plan ( i know it needs to connect to google acct n etc )
Thanks in advance
there are not free rider because are paying 5.99 for tzone.nothing is free in this country. and of course can't run a lot of program that the other plans where you pay more money can do.
momentarylapseofreason said:
I hope T-Mobile shuts off all of these free riders
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about this plan in g1, the new phone can use 3g,edge etc. all depend of you contract with tmobil. if you plan use full internet,mail etc, you phone will have to use 3g for communicate because you are paying for that, they have in you config account that you can use this feature, BUT if you plan is simple for ej tzone the phone will work with edge only because when it try to connect with 3g speed, you plan dont have this activated.
for this 3g speed work you need two part, that the phone have 3g and that tmobil give you acces to 3g in the servers.
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So you're saying T-Zones will be on 3G? Sorry, but I am fully aware on how to do this. Nothing to do with ignorance. The system isn't "working" for you and your analogies are far off.
"If you can steal a big screen TV and pay the employee 100 bucks to look the other way, why pay full price for it" would be a much better analogy.
But either way, it may work for awhile longer at 2G speeds. I am sure that it won't be indefinite though. T-Mobile knows what phone you're using by it's IMEI. They're not stupid and will figure out your "black box" method. Would be awesome if they back-charged you for theft of service.
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Or cancelled the phone service like Sprint. They cancelled the contracts of like 1000 customers last year for "getting the system to work for them", too.
satru said:
there are not free rider because are paying 5.99 for tzone.nothing is free in this country. and of course can't run a lot of program that the other plans where you pay more money can do.
about this plan in g1, the new phone can use 3g,edge etc. all depend of you contract with tmobil. if you plan use full internet,mail etc, you phone will have to use 3g for communicate because you are paying for that, they have in you config account that you can use this feature, BUT if you plan is simple for ej tzone the phone will work with edge only because when it try to connect with 3g speed, you plan dont have this activated.
for this 3g speed work you need two part, that the phone have 3g and that tmobil give you acces to 3g in the servers.
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Learn English and perhaps your arguments will hold water with me.
Using T-Zones will work for basic web browsing, and for gmail, and google chat. T-zone's proxy will actively block the map functions for data etc along with most of the phone features. (The proxy has many closed ports). I am running this way as we speak.
T-Mobile knows about this and they have compensated. They dont mind taking 6 dollars for simple browsing at 3g speeds since you wont barely register on their network. They are already offering such a plan in the UK for a similar price anyways. (yes I am running at 3g speeds for 6 dollars) but my phone is at 30 percent functionality.
If you want to simply browse the web and check your g1 mail then this will work and I am running this way but you will lose out on many of the phone features(actually alot of them) MOST PORTS ARE CLOSED on t-zones.
Anyways have fun.
I bought a sim-free htc touch hd a few weeks ago, bought an o2 pay&go sim, added the unlimited web blot-on, and thought everything would be just fine. But I was wrong.
It worked fine on the small number of occasions I used it before yesterday.
Since I added the web bolt-on, the automatic connection settings no longer work and I get the following message every time I try to set up the data connection:
Dialed:
Cannot connect for an unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your manufacturer's documentation and try again.
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Other than trying the automatic connection setup feature a few times, I've also tried manual settings. Currently my settings are as follows:
Modem selected: Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access point name: mobile.o2.co.uk
User name: O2web
Password: some 16 digit long network automatic password
Domain: no value entered
Advanced settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP address
Servers: Use server-assigned addresses
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I've tried using a different username and password, same the ones listed on most setup guides.
I've tried entering a manual DNS, and Alt DNS server address under advanced settings.
I've tried setting up the connection from scratch.
And I've tried doing a soft reset followed by restoring it to factory settings.
Currently I am using ROM version 1.14.4005.3, and have nothing else installed on the device. I do not currently have access to anything other than a mac, so cannot use any windows-related troubleshooting devices.
Absolutely anything you could suggest would be great. Rang o2, but they were unhelpful. Thanks chaps.
iamelegy said:
I bought a sim-free htc touch hd a few weeks ago, bought an o2 pay&go sim, added the unlimited web blot-on, and thought everything would be just fine. But I was wrong.
It worked fine on the small number of occasions I used it before yesterday.
Since I added the web bolt-on, the automatic connection settings no longer work and I get the following message every time I try to set up the data connection:
Other than trying the automatic connection setup feature a few times, I've also tried manual settings. Currently my settings are as follows:
I've tried using a different username and password, same the ones listed on most setup guides.
I've tried entering a manual DNS, and Alt DNS server address under advanced settings.
I've tried setting up the connection from scratch.
And I've tried doing a soft reset followed by restoring it to factory settings.
Currently I am using ROM version 1.14.4005.3, and have nothing else installed on the device. I do not currently have access to anything other than a mac, so cannot use any windows-related troubleshooting devices.
Absolutely anything you could suggest would be great. Rang o2, but they were unhelpful. Thanks chaps.
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Those are the O2 contract settings. PAYG settings are different and one will not work with the others' settings. You'll have to scoure the O2 website to find the manual settings for PAYG (or PAG as O2 calls it).
A word of warning, however, after just coming off P&G and onto contract, and thus knowing the limitations of both, your mobile web with P&G will be severely crippled.
Unless O2 have changed their settings on the server side, the only web program that will work will be Opera. Email client and youtube won't work as P&G is limited to port 8080 (HTML) only...
This is something that really annoyed me when I was with P&G because I couldn't use my mobile's email client because it just could not connect.
sorry, rant/warning over! Summary: you need P&G specific settings, you can find them (eventually) on the O2 website - keep trying makes and models until you find one that gives you the manual settings (I can't give more help than this as I had to do the exact same thing myself!). HTC auto-connect wizard only has contract settings in it. Also be warned that potentially only Opera will work once you get the settings!
chaosdefinesorder said:
Those are the O2 contract settings. PAYG settings are different and one will not work with the others' settings. You'll have to scoure the O2 website to find the manual settings for PAYG (or PAG as O2 calls it).
A word of warning, however, after just coming off P&G and onto contract, and thus knowing the limitations of both, your mobile web with P&G will be severely crippled.
Unless O2 have changed their settings on the server side, the only web program that will work will be Opera. Email client and youtube won't work as P&G is limited to port 8080 (HTML) only...
This is something that really annoyed me when I was with P&G because I couldn't use my mobile's email client because it just could not connect.
sorry, rant/warning over! Summary: you need P&G specific settings, you can find them (eventually) on the O2 website - keep trying makes and models until you find one that gives you the manual settings (I can't give more help than this as I had to do the exact same thing myself!). HTC auto-connect wizard only has contract settings in it. Also be warned that potentially only Opera will work once you get the settings!
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Thank you so much. I may love you. In a non-gay way. Anywho, I've found out how to do it. It's extremely simple now that you've pointed me toward the problem.
Go to Settings > Connections > Manage existing connections
Then under the 'Modem' tab, edit your connection.
All you have to do is change the access point name from 'mobileweb.o2.co.uk' to 'payango.o2.co.uk'.
Very simple.
And thanks for the warning about the limitations. I might take that up with them, since it is not mentioned when purchasing the web upgrade or sim. I'll test it out first though.
iamelegy said:
Thank you so much. I may love you. In a non-gay way. Anywho, I've found out how to do it. It's extremely simple now that you've pointed me toward the problem.
Go to Settings > Connections > Manage existing connections
Then under the 'Modem' tab, edit your connection.
All you have to do is change the access point name from 'mobileweb.o2.co.uk' to 'payango.o2.co.uk'.
Very simple.
And thanks for the warning about the limitations. I might take that up with them, since it is not mentioned when purchasing the web upgrade or sim. I'll test it out first though.
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It's a general thing with PAYG really, telcos want you to have contracts - make more money from you that way! all PAYG SIMs go through proxies for mobile web connections, and almost all the PAYG proxies are limited to 8080 only.
Then again, it sounds like you didn't use the proxy settings so we'll see what happens w.r.t non html usage!
When you get a chance, could you please have a play with trying to use Gmail on IMAP and/or the YouTube and/or weather panel and report back whether it works or gets timed out? I'd really like to see how you get on!
As I already have many phone contracts in the family (that I'm paying for ), I got one of those o2 simplicity 30 day rolling contract things, the cheapest one for £10, then added £7.50 web bolt on, that lets you do whatever you like (you tube, mail etc all works fine), I thinks its also 150mins and 300txts.
Tmob do one as well that I think £20 for more mins, Unlimited txts and free web (special offer at the moment). It is a better deal than the o2 for only £2.50 more, but I have better o2 reception where I am, and also they use the Edge network.
chaosdefinesorder said:
When you get a chance, could you please have a play with trying to use Gmail on IMAP and/or the YouTube and/or weather panel and report back whether it works or gets timed out? I'd really like to see how you get on!
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OK, I've played about with these a bit, and they seem to be working fine. Weather works perfectly, as does my Gmail account on IMAP.
The youtube application is extremely slow, but I'm assuming that is more general, than a specific PAYG problem.
As I already have many phone contracts in the family (that I'm paying for ), I got one of those o2 simplicity 30 day rolling contract things, the cheapest one for £10, then added £7.50 web bolt on, that lets you do whatever you like (you tube, mail etc all works fine), I thinks its also 150mins and 300txts.
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I've got their 'Your Country' SIM pack, which is purely top-up, but they deduct the 7.50 form my credit each month. It's great for me, since you get free minutes for calls to overseas whenever you top-up - damn useful for an Irishman.
Can't afford 20 pound every single month unfortunately. Student life (ignoring the fact that I managed to get a HD).
Thanks again chaps.