I was informed of a little meeting between some corporate IT folks and some T-Mobile national reps. They informed them that the MDA 2 will probably not be sold in the US via T-Mobile because of some problems they are seeing with the unit operating on US Networks.
Ouch!, if this is true, this sucks!
Thought you'd might like to know..
I'd love to hear what the problems were, as i'm using an imate in the US on t-mobile with no problem.
What's the deal?
I am using the T-Mobile MDA II (german ROM) here in the US with no problems. Both the GSM and GPRS work fine.
Fernando
Agreed... it works great on T-Mobile USA. The only problem is that I can send MMS messages, but when recieving they turn into regular SMS messages.
Well, I am not suprised. It will be probably another 6 months until they willa adopt this thing.
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It has been a while since I have read the boards and so I am having a problem finding any information on whether or not I can purchase a MDA II and use it with my T-Mobile service in the USA. I currently have the older version of the T-Mobile Pocket PC phone and would like to upgrade to a new phone. Can anyone help me with my question about the MDA II in the USA or is there another PocketPC phone you would recommend?
I think the MDA II/XDA II only works on 900MHz which is used on European networks. I'm not sure if it works in America or if it works well in America.
Actually, T-Mobile USA does 900MHz don't they?
T-mobile in the USA use 1900.
As far as I know the MDA II is triband so it will work with T-Mobile USA
It will NOT work with cingular
tobelieve said:
It has been a while since I have read the boards and so I am having a problem finding any information on whether or not I can purchase a MDA II and use it with my T-Mobile service in the USA. I currently have the older version of the T-Mobile Pocket PC phone and would like to upgrade to a new phone. Can anyone help me with my question about the MDA II in the USA or is there another PocketPC phone you would recommend?
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Any phone that uses 1900MHz will be fine for you then.
I have an O2 Xda II bought in Singapore last Summer and I use it in NY on T-Mobile. It works great.
I have just upgraded my ROM using the latest UK patch 1.72.187 (radio 1.17.00) and it works fine.
Hi everybody
Compliments for an extremely informative and active forum. 8)
I would like to ask if the JASJAR/XDA Exec functions in Japan - I have gathered that it is W-CDMA (UMTS) compatible and subsequently has the ability to do so. :? Although I am not clear
GSM does generally not function in Japan i.e. even my XDA IIs quad band cannot function proficiently in Japan. Moreover, UMTS does function in Japan- does this permit solely video calls (and not standard voice calls)?
The reason for taking one to Japan - The US/EURO PDA phones are generally more visually desirable/advanced than their Japanese counterparts, unlike standard handsets.
Any information/assistance would be much appreciated.
JASJAR+VODAFONE-JP/Docomo
Hi belloragazzo,
Some of japanese have got jasjar and used VODAFONE-JP USIM(W-CDMA (UMTS)) / Docomo in Japan. Also I have got Jasjar and tested VODAFONE-JP SIM in UK for few days.
I hope this helps you.
tom_hiro225 arigatougozaimas!
A dowmo & thank you for your kind reply; it is extremely helpful.
I will buy the JASJAR before I go to Japan and then obtain a Vodafone JP sim if possible.
Once again thank you for your help.
Matane:O)
Yep, Japan use WCDMA (UMTS 2100) that's used in the JasJar. Can't say I've been to Japan since I got my JasJar, but my old 3G phone worked well over there (same principle, at least!)...
JasJar in Japan
I bought the JasJar in England, and was surprised when landed in Japan to have my mobile connected to Vodaphone system in Tokyo. I have used it few days in Tokyo, quality was very good - and I enjoyed connection also in Kashiwa...
Hope it is helpful for you.
Regards
Yes it works, japan Vodafone and Docomo Foma are operation 3G.
You can use those Operatores SIM.
Thats why many japanese guys are buying and bought Universal!
Also some of 3G supported GSM SIMs from out side Japan, can use those operators services as a GSM loaming!
Thank everybody for your kind advice
I will certainly get JasJar before going to live in Japan on 18th October - I understand that I will have to buy a J phone in order to obtain a SIM card to use in Japan.
Can anybody please suggest which is the most suitable contract/prepaid phone to buy with the sole intention of using the SIM card rather than the phone?
Hi belloragazzo,
Here are some information of VODAFONE-JP.
[Price plans]
http://www.vodafone.jp/english/pricelist/index.html
[Basic and Voice charge]
http://www.vodafone.jp/english/pricelist/package/index.html?clickcount_0315
[Mobile Data Communications]
http://www.vodafone.jp/english/pricelist/data/index.html
[Discount services]
http://www.vodafone.jp/english/pricelist/discount/index.html
Some of retailer has offered free (or discount) 3G phone.
ex. YODOBASHI CAMERA, BIG CAMERA...
Also you can contract SIM only at local VODAFONE shop.
You might be required some proof when you contract. (ID/Address/Payment ID,Bank acount,Driving license, Credit card, Public bills) same like other countries.
cheers
Thank you for both the links and information, I am much obliged.
I will indeed buy the Vodafone JP SIM 8)
The response on this forum is wonderful; it is an excellent source of information for worldwide travellers.
This thread was just what I needed! I'm going on a two week trip to Tokyo and Fukuoka in March and I'm definitely dependant on my jasjar.
thanks a lot!
-M
What the heck!!! 300 Yen a month for unlimited voice calls and mail!!! That translates to around $2 a month. Is that correct or am i wayyyyy off-track?!?!
universaldoc said:
What the heck!!! 300 Yen a month for unlimited voice calls and mail!!! That translates to around $2 a month. Is that correct or am i wayyyyy off-track?!?!
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Japan/Korea are indeed very far ahead of the west on telecoms pricing.
RyanZA said:
universaldoc said:
What the heck!!! 300 Yen a month for unlimited voice calls and mail!!! That translates to around $2 a month. Is that correct or am i wayyyyy off-track?!?!
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Japan/Korea are indeed very far ahead of the west on telecoms pricing.
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How about roaming? anyone know if it would make sense to pick up a sim and roam it here in europe? I have japanese bank accounts already.
Auto Roaming in Japan with Exec
Hi guys,
Does anyone know whether will my O2 Exec work in Japan? I just have a basic GSM mobile plan with Telstra (Australia). No 3G nor GPRS services. They cost too much in Australia! I have auto roaming in my mobile plan but when I brought my Exec to Singapore 3 weeks ago, the auto roaming didn't work. I rang Telstra and they told me that they have already activate my auto-roaming.
Anyway, is there something I'm missing out? Do I need to change any settings on the Exec? I'm going to Japan soon and really wanna to be able to receive calls from Australia. Does anyone know whether is there any setting I need to change in order to activate auto roaming on my Exec?
Thank you!
Regards,
Johnnie
Re: Auto Roaming in Japan with Exec
johnnie82 said:
Hi guys,
Does anyone know whether will my O2 Exec work in Japan? I just have a basic GSM mobile plan with Telstra (Australia). No 3G nor GPRS services. They cost too much in Australia! I have auto roaming in my mobile plan but when I brought my Exec to Singapore 3 weeks ago, the auto roaming didn't work. I rang Telstra and they told me that they have already activate my auto-roaming.
Anyway, is there something I'm missing out? Do I need to change any settings on the Exec? I'm going to Japan soon and really wanna to be able to receive calls from Australia. Does anyone know whether is there any setting I need to change in order to activate auto roaming on my Exec?
Thank you!
Regards,
Johnnie
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You should be able to roam on vodafone jp 3G's network. Whether you have a "3G" plan at home or not, remember 3G or umts is really just a different band, vodafone and most telco's will let you connect to umts where ever possable, you only need upgraded accounts and price plans when you want things like video calling. So in short if you home network will let you roam on vodafone jp then yep you can use your universal.
Guys, don't forget that to be able to use your 3G phone in 3G ONLY network you also need to have a 3G simcard.
Johnnie82, that may be the problem with your EXEC, maybe when you decided not to use 3G in Australia you didn't get the new simcard and you are still using old GSM one, which will work fine there, but won't let you to connect in 3G only network.
Hi Ratcom and Rottie,
Thanks for your input! The both of you have made complete sense to me. I think I should contact Telstra and request for a new 3G simcard without the real 3G capabilities. (Telecommunications in Australia are really expensive compare to country like Singapore.) Which mean a new simcard that will allows me to use Vonefone 3G network while I'm in Japan.
Am I right to do that?
Thanks!
Regards,
Johnnie
then it should be fine.
I'm starting a trip round the world tomorrow and I'm gonna check how my Exec is working in Australia and Japan...
Do you think there is a good 3G coverage on Easter Island? :wink: :lol:
Hi Rottie,
Mate, You're lucky that you're going around the world holiday! I envy you! :wink: Anyway, I believe that you will have no problem logging onto 3G network in all major cities in Australia. But I don't think that you will be able to get much 3G reception in the Easter Island. I got a friend staying there and remembered he telling me that they have only normal GSM service last year. Maybe they have upgraded their network now?
Anyway, enjoy your holidays!
Regards,
Johnnie
I was only joking, wasn't expecting even a GSM there. :lol:
Thanks
I have a Hermes and am on AT&T/Cingular mobile in New York and I love my phone. I have a friend in India who would like to buy one and wants to know if it will work in his country. I told him that I thought it would, since it is quad-band.
Does anyone have experience using the Hermes in India. Please let me know. Thanks in advance for any information you have to share.
-Austin
Works just fine in India. Employees from my company go there and use their 8525s all the time.
HTC Hermes in Bangladesh
Works great in Bangladesh as well. Relying on it for my sole internet access from the jungle via Grameen EDGE service (GSM 900/1800).
Hi
I'm off to the US in a month. I've got an unlocked UK M1000 ROM 1.66.00WWE Radio 1.10.00. I've ordered a couple of T-mobile prepaid sims from the US so that my family and I can keep in touch over there without being stung by rediculous roaming charges. I gather the M1000 will work with my own sim over there but will it work if I put the US sim in it? or do I need to start changing the ROM of the phone?
(I've also got an MDA Vario early model(UK) and a couple of Siemens CL75 poppy phones which are also unlocked and should work over there with UK sims)
If there's no joy with my existing phones I'll just get a couple of cheap prepay phones when I'm over there but I'd prefer not to if I don't need to.
Many thanks
Regards
Twojags
it will work unless the network is cdma or 850MhzGsm
Many thanks Rudegar.
Kind regards
Twojags
Update: The three dell reps i talked to (one even being a supervisor) all claimed it would work with 3G, but ajftl on post #19 seems to have finally gotten a rep with a knowledgable responce, and after some research came back with:
12:19:31 AM Agent Donald T
yes we do have the unlocked version.. that can work with T-Mobile
12:20:06 AM Customer Manny
ok. work on t mobile 3g?
12:20:14 AM Customer Manny
or edge only?
12:20:58 AM Agent Donald T
2G with T Mobile.. 3G with AT&T
12:21:15 AM Customer Manny
ok .. thanks thats what i thought ...
SORRY! NOTHING NEW HERE...
Disclaimer: after my initial excitement of using this device contract free on TMobile USA with 3G and discussion in this thread, I have come to the conclusion Dell reps aren't usually the brightest when it comes to what they sell and the info delivered by them should be taken with a grain of salt. Given the fact that no rep would acknowledge the different frequencies used between TMo and ATT and would only refer to a phones "unlocked" status...
I just chatted with a dell rep on their website and they said the new unlocked streak will work on TMobile's 3G, HSPA+ even! Although i am skeptical it will be able to take advantage of the full speed... I tried to be as clear in my questioning as possible.
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10:57:35 AM Mannilene_H Hi Mike!
10:57:44 AM Mike Yes i was wondering if the new "unlocked" dell streak could be used on TMobile's3g
10:58:10 AM Mannilene_H Glad you chatted in today.
10:58:21 AM Mike thanks
10:58:25 AM Mannilene_H Yes. As long as it's unlocked..
10:59:24 AM Mike So you are telling me for a fact that the new unlocked dell streak will work with Tmobile USA 3g network and not just ATT like the previous?
10:59:50 AM Mannilene_H Yes.
11:00:25 AM Mannilene_H Even with the other mobile network provider as well
11:00:26 AM Mike Wow cool I may have to actually get it then! do you know if it works with TMo's HSPA+ network?
11:01:31 AM Mannilene_H Let me check
11:01:34 AM Mike So sorry to keep verifying, but your saying the new unlocked dell streak will work with both TMobile 3G and ATT 3G? Sorry it's just blowing my mind because all the internet news is saying otherwise...
11:02:13 AM Mike and i've wanted this phone for a while but don't like ATT
11:02:26 AM Mannilene_H Oh I see.
11:02:47 AM Mannilene_H Yes, it will work as long as it's unlocked
11:03:02 AM Mannilene_H I've used the dell streak and it's a really great phone
11:03:18 AM Mike Ok! Awesome! I just might get one in the next couple of days then!!!!
11:03:32 AM Mannilene_H That would be great!
11:03:48 AM Mannilene_H You can place the order online..
11:04:02 AM Mannilene_H Or we could call you back once you're ready to purchase
11:04:39 AM Mike Thank you! I guess that is all! oh wait one more thing.. I read a rumore that dell is working on what i'll call the "streak 2" with a dual core processor have you heard anything about that?
11:06:05 AM Mannilene_H Not heard of that exact information yet. However the development team keeps on working on new products so sooner or later we might have that too.
11:06:45 AM Mike ok. Thank you!
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11:07:15 AM Mike Think that's it. Thank you!
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these will be available within the next 2 weeks. nothing new here. its the branded devices that have carrier-lock.
Except it is available to order on the dell website and will work with Tmo USA 3g Everything i have read indicated it would most likely still only get ATT 3G only bonus was factory unlocked for faster updates etc... but if this works on TMo USA 3G its GREAT!!!
Are they refering to the white ones?
No. Black/Carbon
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/23/dell-us-now-offering-streak-unlocked-with-froyo-in-cherry-red/
http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-streak/fs
ATT Ruby Red also available..
Would be nice if true, but there have been no announced hardware changes for the the streak to work on tmobile's hspa+ network. Only a handfull of the 1000 beta streaks have the correct gsm frequency. For hspa+ to work, the streak needs tmobile's 1700/2100 aws band frequency. I think the dell rep is mis-informed.
Yeah, I'm not sure either... I'm definitely stopping by my local TMo (which just so happens to be the only cell phone store that can actually hold a conversation with me regarding cellphones!!!) and ask them if they know anything...
hmm.... I am still skeptical, I want to believe it, but I will have to see it for myself.
A lot of the reps are mis-informed, noticed how she kept saying "as long as it is unlocked" I think this person has no clue about the different frequencies used by Tmo and ATT.
Exactly. I've been using a Beta Streak on TMO but just because it's 'unlocked' doesn't mean I get 3G. Please, original poster, or anyone else.... show us all in writing where the unlocked Streak will work with TMO's 3G.
You guys here in this forum on XDA should be smarter than to believe some random rep. Dell has been screwing us before. I won't believe it even after I see it on an official Dell page... only if I see them for sale and out in the wild!!
Yeah... I didn't manage to get over to my TMo like i wanted... but i just got off the phone with a dell customer support supervisor and he kept insisting the it would work with Tmobiles 3G... But you're right... I probably jumped the gun with this post. I appologize. I am still a little skeptical as well because they don't seem to ever recognize the fact that Tmo and ATT support different frequencies. They just keep saying "as long as it's unlocked"...
got a question for the unlocked streaks, will att know what device you are on...im asking because i have used unlocked devices as the nokia e71, and nexus and att doesnt kmow what device im using..for me thats good cause the imei comes up unknown...i would like to know this before i go ahead and get the unlocked version...also wht are the advantages of the unlocked over the branded ones other then updates faster and no att bloat ware...
mormegil83, just FYI, I talked to a buddy of mine who works at TMO (I worked at corporate store as well for 4 years)... they haven't heard anything about the Streak. The retail reps are usually kept in the dark. They would have only gotten any communication from the company if TMO were launching a Streak. So don't beat yourself up that you didn't make it down to a store today lol.
If anybody ever gets their hands on one in person, you can check the frequencies available by entering the engineering mode unlock code in the dialer, there is a radio band selector app among the engineering mode apps.
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Would be nice if true, but there have been no announced hardware changes for the the streak to work on tmobile's hspa+ network. Only a handfull of the 1000 beta streaks have the correct gsm frequency. For hspa+ to work, the streak needs tmobile's 1700/2100 aws band frequency. I think the dell rep is mis-informed.
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just got off the phone with dell and got the new baseband its going to be the 1100 one so no I dont think it will have t-mobile 3g in the USA this sucks to because art is starting to piss me off with over charges....
wow can someone get the gsm frequency from Dell Iv tried from the Dell mobility people they are so stupid couldn't get to the page they needed....
well .. I just got off the phone with a local guy selling me one of those unlocked streak i asked him if it works on tmo 3g... he says yes.. i asked him r u sure and he says hold on im gonna double check gonna insert my friends tmo sim card...tic tia tic tac he said yes it pick tmo 3g it says 3g on top...i told him ok im willing to meet u but here is the deal im going to insert my tmo sim if it picks tmo 3g u got a deal..he says ok np
Wow how could he have one of the new unlocked ones already they just got put up on the Dell website today I think this might be one of the beta ones Dell gave out... There is only like 1000 of them that Dell put t-mobile 3g gsm frequencys on.... Good buy if it is.... PS is it 2.2
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scaronscar said:
Wow how could he have one of the new unlocked ones already they just got put up on the Dell website today I think this might be one of the beta ones Dell gave out... There is only like 1000 of them that Dell put t-mobile 3g gsm frequencys on.... Good buy if it is.... PS is it 2.2
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he texted me saying not a go.. not picking up tmo 3g ...damn
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12:05:30 AM Customer Manny
hello...
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Glad that you chatted in Manny, I would be happy to assist you with your concern.
12:06:05 AM Customer Manny
on the new dell streak unlocked version can u please verify if it works on the tmobile 3g network?
12:06:48 AM Agent Donald T
no, its exclusively for at&t
12:06:54 AM Customer Manny
or is it only going to pick the AT&T 3g signal
12:07:14 AM Customer Manny
so why does it says unlocked?
12:08:32 AM Agent Donald T
it because, you can buy that without subscribing immediately you AT&T
12:09:14 AM Customer Manny
hmm it shouldn't have the unlocked word there then
12:09:31 AM Customer Manny
thats not unlocked
12:09:48 AM Customer Manny
i can buy the phone full price on best buy same thing
12:10:13 AM Customer Manny
you 100% sure about this?
12:10:29 AM Agent Donald T
let me verify that.. please wait.
12:10:35 AM Customer Manny
ok
12:13:23 AM Agent Donald T
please give me 2 min more..
12:13:29 AM Customer Manny
sure
12:19:31 AM Agent Donald T
yes we do have the unlocked version.. that can work with T-Mobile
12:20:06 AM Customer Manny
ok. work on t mobile 3g?
12:20:14 AM Customer Manny
or edge only?
12:20:58 AM Agent Donald T
2G with T Mobile.. 3G with AT&T
12:21:15 AM Customer Manny
ok .. thanks thats what i thought ...
12:21:29 AM Agent Donald T
anything else?
12:21:34 AM Customer Manny
nope
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Damn! I much more likely to believe your guy than the three i spoke with... I guess it is same ol' story then... just slightly faster updates... that also explains why tethering is "free" With ATT 2GB data cap there is no reason to charge us for tether. We will just continually get hit with overage charges! So the only advantage for paying the xtra $30 is slightly faster updates -probably same updates the Euro version gets- and no ATT bloatware. BOOO!!!