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My company is still using the dying Nextel, and phone they issued is an ancient Motorola. I know Nextel is part of Sprint now. Does it mean I can use any sprint phone in Nextel network? I'm thinking to get an used Sprint Touch for this. Any suggestions? Thanks!
I don't live in USA, but if I recall right Sprint is a CDMA carrier, therefore you have a Vogue not an Elf, Nextel uses GSM phones (ELF) which is a different technology to CDMA making them incompatible.
My Nextel phone does have a SIM card. I put into a unlocked GSM world phone, but it doesn't seem to work.
Does CDMA phone also have a SIM card?
CDMA does not use SIM cards
I'm just curious if there's anyone out there with an HD2 on Verizon? If not, is it possible to do it? The HD2 is a quad band device, so doesn't it have the hardware capable to be on a CDMA network? I was thinking that if I bought an unlocked HD2, I would be able to put it on my account with Verizon. I guess I would have to be running a different radio in order to do that though.
Anyone have any thoughts, comments, suggestions? I really want one of these phones, but I can't switch from Verizon because no other provider gives me 3g in my area. Plus, my Touch Pro 2 is getting dated compared to that 1gz Snapdragon!
HD2 is a GSM phone. Pretty sure it can't be made to work on a CDMA network.
Technology
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
Taken from the HD2 tech specs on HTC's website.
If it has a CDMA radio, why couldn't it work if it were unlocked?
Does Verizon have a sim card to put in the phone? If not, how can they make it work on their network.
Verizon does have sim cards, they use them in the Blackberry Storm, which is both GSM/CDMA ...
But It may be like the storm if it is activated via the IMEI that it may not require a sim card ...
rly? i never thought verizon would use sim cards...can we bring non verizon phones them from lets say ATT to their network?
Verizon has SIM cards for their GSM/CDMA world phones. Sprint also has world edition blackberries with a SIM card. The SIM card is there so the phone is able to roam onto a GSM network outside of the USA. As far as I know this SIM card will not allow it to roam onto a USA GSM network, since there are no roaming agreements in place between VZ and ATT/TMO
The WCDMA on the HD2 is not the same as CDMA that VZ/Sprint use.
WCDMA is the 3G standard that GSM providers use. CDMA is well as far as i know the same old CDMA network that VZ/Sprint have used for ages with whatever "bolt on" enables 3G on their network. I dont follow the CDMA standard so i dont know all the specifics about the tech.
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I just did a small amount of wikipedia research. What Verizon/Sprint use is CDMA2000/EV-DO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDMA2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-Data_Optimized
This is not compatible with WCDMA,
Even though they both use "CDMA" family of technology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_division_multiple_access
WCDMA is a wideband version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCDMA
Thanks for the replies guys. This is a bummer though. I was really hoping to be able to get an HD2 to use with Verizon. Oh well, guess I'll wait for the Droid X to release, even though I'd like to stick with WiMo.
Hi Guys, dose anyone have any idea if the samsung Epic 4G for sprint supports GSM networks??
as I know it's 4G phone for sprint, works on Wimax networks, and I heard that it's GSM capable as well, is that true?
Thx
I hope that's true... but I think It hasn't a sim slot
Isn't sprint a cdma Telco? Otherwise you'll be hearing ppl like me buying the epic and using it I'm aus. I would love a gsm sgs with kb
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I'm pretty sure it's not. Sprint are CDMA (and their "4G" is WiMax). Their phones do not normally have any GSM capabilities.
Epic 4G General Forum
No, it does not have GSM. It's CDMA only and specifically (at least currently) U.S. only.
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No, it does not have GSM. It's CDMA only and specifically (at least currently) U.S. only.
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Actually, the Epic 4G is CDMA/WCDMA capable. WCDMA being a hybrid of different GSM technologies. If you go into the Phone Info Test Mode (*#4636*1111#) > Phone Information, you can see how to change how the phone's radio interacts with different cell towers in the area. While in the US, there's no point in having WCDMA on because there are no WCDMA service providers here. However, when you go overseas... well, you get the picture.
The only reason this phone really isn't strictly GSM capable is because the radio isn't compatible, and there's no room for a SIM card to contain GSM network subscriber data.
"W-CDMA (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access), UMTS-FDD, UTRA-FDD, or IMT-2000 CDMA Direct Spread is an air interface standard found in 3G mobile telecommunications networks. It is the basis of Japan's NTT DoCoMo's FOMA service and the most-commonly used member of the UMTS family and sometimes used as a synonym for UMTS.[1] It utilizes the DS-CDMA channel access method and the FDD duplexing method to achieve higher speeds and support more users compared to most time division multiple access (TDMA) schemes used today.
While not an evolutionary upgrade on the airside, it uses the same core network as the 2G GSM networks deployed worldwide, allowing dual-mode operation along with GSM/EDGE; a feat it shares with other members of the UMTS family."
--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W-CDMA_(UMTS)
Hey guys, I saw this Global edition is coming out, anyone know if it would work straight up on a GSM network? I'm on Rogers in Canada, same netwrok as AT&T and unfortunately GSM android phone selection blows and I've wanted a Droid for ever. Does the Global have a SIM card slot, would it work as a GSM phone or is it strictly designed to work on CDMA and work on GSM from time to time?
Please for the love of god someone tell me it will work as a normal GSM phone, I want a good android phone
Well here in america I know they have the black berrys such as the storm 1 that are gsm and also have verizon "sim cards" in them (yeah, weird I know..) so I want to assume that the phone will be coming with a sim card slot somewhere but honestly I haven't heard much either about the droid 2 we..when I first saw it I had no idea what a "we" droid 2 was lol...neither did google ...hahah
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Well here in america I know they have the black berrys such as the storm 1 that are gsm and also have verizon "sim cards" in them (yeah, weird I know..) so I want to assume that the phone will be coming with a sim card slot somewhere but honestly I haven't hear much either about the droid 2 we..when I first saw it I had no idea what a "we" droid 2 was lol...neither did google ...hahah
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Hahaha thanks man, I'm going to wait till thing gets pushed out finally hopefully someone will tear it apart.
But if anyone else knows anything else please chime in. This could be sweet if it works
Like the global phones of yesteryear (Blackberry devices, a few Windows mobile ones and some feature phones), they come with a VodaFone SIM for use with global roaming. It is SIM-locked (subsidy locked) however and you'll need to unlock it. Verizon routinely does this for regular customers on contract but if you buy the Pro or D2 Global unsubsidized they generally won't and you'll have to unlock it via a third party.
Once it's unlocked: It's tri-band UMTS. I'm not an expert on UMTS frequencies around the globe. I know it'll work in a couple hundred countries outside North America but I have no idea if it'll work at 3G speeds on US or Canadian GSM networks. It'll definitely work for phone calls and 2G data on AT&T, T-Mobile, Rogers, etc since it's quad-band GSM - this is how the global BlackBerry devices work. My old Storm 1 is still in use by someone on AT&T and I intend to sell my current unlocked Storm 2 when I finally break down and pick up one of the new global Droids.
Just got a Droid 2 Global. It has a VZW/Vodafone sim in it, no idea if it's SIM Locked(I'm sure it is). Once you get it unlocked, it shouldent be hard to get working with a rogers sim.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/droid-2-global-motorola-nbsp.shtml
states:
# All–Digital, 800/1900, CDMA EVDO rev A
# Quad Band GSM – 850/900/1800/1900MHz
# Tri–Band UMTS/HSPA – 850 /1900/2100MHz
So according to this, if its unlocked, it should work for Rogers or AT&T 3G
Any ideas on how to get it unlocked ?
i'm sure a third party company can unlock it like how the storm 1s were unlocked, just have to wait and see since it was barely released from vzw.
I got my D2 Global SIM unlocked yesterday. Called VZW Global Support (1-800-711-8300) and they gave me the code (once you put in a non-VZW SIM, it will automatically ask you for the code.) As long as your line has been active for at least 6 months with no late payments, they will hook you up.
HOWEVER, it appears there may be more to the unlocking process. When I did a GSM network scan, no networks showed up. Others on various forums have been reporting the same issue in the last day or so. Normally when you put in a SIM into an unlocked GSM phone, you will see the roaming network options.
It's possible that they have blocked US GSM networks and foreign networks will work fine, but I'm hoping others can shed some light on the issue.
ArizonaGuy said:
It'll definitely work for phone calls and 2G data on AT&T, T-Mobile, Rogers, etc since it's quad-band GSM
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xryousukex said:
# All–Digital, 800/1900, CDMA EVDO rev A
# Quad Band GSM – 850/900/1800/1900MHz
# Tri–Band UMTS/HSPA – 850 /1900/2100MHz
So according to this, if its unlocked, it should work for Rogers or AT&T 3G
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Not quite. If you look at the D2G user guide on the Motorola website, it says on page 12: "DROID2 Global by Motorola switches effortlessly between CDMA, GSM 900, GSM 1800, and UMTS 2100 networks, so you can make calls in over 200 countries worldwide."
So it seems that VZW has restricted use of the 850/1900 MHz GSM/UMTS bands, even though the device has the hardware to support them. Most foreign networks use 900/1800 GSM and 2100 UMTS but AT&T/T-Mobile use 850/1900, which is why no one has had any success with them yet.
Hopefully someone can figure out a workaround.
Yes - hopefully someone can find a workaround for this. The same is true for the Droid Pro in that even once the phone is unlocked it will not work on ATT networks.
Hi Folks,
I am looking for a Z5 Dual user who has 2 SIM cards inserted that both have active data connections available with their carriers e.g. AT&T and T-Mobile in the USA or Telstra & Optus in Australia etc, etc.
I am trying to work out if the phone will support dual active 3G or 4G or LTE? The reason why is the 2G network where I am will shut down soon so the frequencies on the 2G network will stop working.
The model I am considering for purchase is E6683 (http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/xperia-z5-dual-e6633-and-e6683-white-paper/)
– E6683 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz
: GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
: LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 38, 39, 40, 41)
I keep hearing that there is no phone that is capable of dual LTE as the battery drain will be huge but with 3G maybe possibility?
Thanks
I'm using a Z5 Dual (E6683) which I bought from Hong Kong. It is a Dual Standby but not Dual LTE. You can select either SIM 1 or SIM 2 to have LTE.
One SIM will be on LTE and the other on 2G.
You can only use data connection on one sim card, the other one is gsm. If it is dual lte or 3g, how would the phone or the apps know which card's data to use? It will be too complicated.
Thanks for your replies, it seems the MotoG is able to maintain 2 data connections, this was reported by another user in XDA forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/moto-g-2015-t3169116/page7
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Originally Posted by Promythyus
To those of you with the dual sim model, do you know what capability the second sim has? I currently have a moto g 2014 dual sim, but the second sim is 2G only and I don't have 2G reception at my house. If the 2015 model has 3G on the second sim I'll be buying it ASAP.
Dual 4g I've picked up lte/4g on both sims and in settings it gives you the option highest 4g when you've got data enabled on second sim"
You would think that the Z5 could do the same ?
Hi Guys, just an important question: the device has two slot for the SIM cards and one slot for the SD (3 slots) or just two slot for a sim and and SD or 2 sim ? Thank you
@tasmaniandevil could u help me?
I have 2 SIMs with Bell Mobility here in Canada. Bell doesn't have a 2G network. Would this phone (or any other) be capable of having LTE on SIM 1 for voice and data and 3G on the second one for voice only?
Shikaiya said:
Hi Guys, just an important question: the device has two slot for the SIM cards and one slot for the SD (3 slots) or just two slot for a sim and and SD or 2 sim ? Thank you
@tasmaniandevil could u help me?
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2 SIM slots + SD slot. I only use the 2nd SIM while travelling, so I can't say how they would work atm. But typically on other dual SIM phones, any SIM used for voice-only in slot 2 is okay. At least I haven't run into an issue, but YMMV.
defender007 said:
I have 2 SIMs with Bell Mobility here in Canada. Bell doesn't have a 2G network. Would this phone (or any other) be capable of having LTE on SIM 1 for voice and data and 3G on the second one for voice only?
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You can choose which sim card you want to be used for data and the other is only 2G. If your BELL card doesn't have 2G network, you have to set it up for data and set the other sim card to 2g only. In that case, you won't be able to use the data on your 2nd sim card.
jackijumbo90 said:
You can choose which sim card you want to be used for data and the other is only 2G. If your BELL card doesn't have 2G network, you have to set it up for data and set the other sim card to 2g only. In that case, you won't be able to use the data on your 2nd sim card.
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It only allows 2G (GSM) for the voice SIM? God thing I don't need the dual SIM abilities in Japan. The cell companies don't have GSM aymore,only W CDMA (3G/HSPDA).
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_Dennis_ said:
It only allows 2G (GSM) for the voice SIM? God thing I don't need the dual SIM abilities in Japan. The cell companies don't have GSM aymore,only W CDMA (3G/HSPDA).
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Here are the settings from mine.
http://hpics.li/d7a64d7
http://hpics.li/40b0318
http://hpics.li/9cb7e5d
My xperia z5 dual sim is E6683 not E6633
jackijumbo90 said:
Here are the settings from mine.
http://hpics.li/d7a64d7
http://hpics.li/40b0318
http://hpics.li/9cb7e5d
My xperia z5 dual sim is E6683 not E6633
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Sane model as the one I ordered. Thanks for the screen shots (glad I took French in high school lol)
Somewhat disappointing, but like I said don't really have a use for dual sim, especially while in Japan. Mostly bought it because the regular Z5 was out of stock.
Thanks again.
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Can someone share a pic of the SIM slots and MicroSD slot?
xtacy! said:
Can someone share a pic of the SIM slots and MicroSD slot?
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they are side by side under the flap: the dual has a tray which is kind of annoying to get out and the SD is a push in/out affair
I only know some Chinese phone vendors producing dual-sim-dual-LTE phones, which is achieved via putting an extra baseband chip or something in the phone.
jackijumbo90 said:
You can choose which sim card you want to be used for data and the other is only 2G. If your BELL card doesn't have 2G network, you have to set it up for data and set the other sim card to 2g only. In that case, you won't be able to use the data on your 2nd sim card.
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I have 2 SIMs from Bell, with 2 different phone numbers. I don't need data on both because they both share the data but I do need 3G voice on both to be live. One will be LTE data+voice and the second 3G but no data. Anything like that exist?
defender007 said:
I have 2 SIMs from Bell, with 2 different phone numbers. I don't need data on both because they both share the data but I do need 3G voice on both to be live. One will be LTE data+voice and the second 3G but no data. Anything like that exist?
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No, as stated before, you can't have both SIMs connected on 3G. One can be connected to LTE/3G for data and voice but the other is only GSM.
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Here are the settings from mine.
http://hpics.li/d7a64d7
http://hpics.li/40b0318
http://hpics.li/9cb7e5d
jackijumbo90 said:
No, as stated before, you can't have both SIMs connected on 3G. One can be connected to LTE/3G for data and voice but the other is only GSM.
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Here are the settings from mine.
http://hpics.li/d7a64d7
http://hpics.li/40b0318
http://hpics.li/9cb7e5d
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What about if you select one to 3G preferred? Can the other be changed to 3G as well?
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What about if you select one to 3G preferred? Can the other be changed to 3G as well?
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No you can't. One of the sim HAS to be set to GSM. If you set it to 3g of 4g, it automatically set the other back to GSM.
does this phone actually work with WIND Mobile (E6883)
i was looking at the white paper in hk for the device at the Sony store and it doesnt' say support for AWS1700
however, GSM Arena says otherwise
maybe a stupid question, but why do you need data on 2 sim cards? Are you paying for data on 2 sim cards? Because you can switch easily between one sim or the other according to which plan you wanna use.