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I'm about to dual boot my box again, since alot of the stuff on the forums is for linux to start with, then works its way to windows. It's been a while since i played with linux, recompiling kernels had me pulling my hair out going f*%$ this MS Dos is more user friendly lols. Just curious which distibution you developers and programmers are useing, if you think one is better than the others for whatever reason.
Thanks in advance,
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Not really a developer but I have a gentoo64 2008.0
Why gentoo?
because you know what stuff you have in since you start with almost nothing. xD
but all other distribution are the same :
-Package manager
-user friendly
-Good autodetection of almost all your devices.
If you're not really familiar with linux I would tell you to go with ubuntu.
The community is really active, and the packages are well maintened.
personally i use Ubuntu 8.10(intrepid) it is very user friendly and i have been using it for a while so i know how to develope my themes and i know a good number of commands that i can use on the comp and on the phone.
Thanks for the suggestions, got ubuntu installed yesterday, been pulling hair out ever since
Ah man... Ubuntu's a breeze. What's making you pull your hair out?
I picked Ubuntu because of its Mac OSXness. Easy to use and very functional. Completely switched all my computers to dual boot now. Windows is for Excel now and that's about it.
lol I use Puppy Linux
Namely because It's even more stripped down then gentoo. The full installer is around 100mb. I have the installer on my MicroSD card as a live distro. Throw the card+MicroSD reader in a USB slot, change bios to boot from usb and whalla! Easiest Dual-Boot ever.
The Installer for Puppy actually installs the OS to my laptop's RAM leaving my hard-drives completely untouched. Full installation takes about 5 minutes.
When I'm done in linux, I just reboot, yank the USB and I'm back in windows. (there's also options to save your settings and things that you have changed to the MicroSD so they'll be there next time you boot from the USB)
sorry to tell you this but in term of installer size you can't do less than gentoo
ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/2008.0/installcd/
xDDD
My bad... "Namely because It's even more stripped down then gentoo. The full installer is around 100mb." thx for correcting me dixxa, 67mb is pretty small
Although you can go a bit smaller http://damnsmalllinux.org/ 50mb
but I've had no luck setting DSL up successfully :/
Check out http://www.ultimateedition.info. It's a modified and improved ubuntu. It's not small but it's very beginner friendly and well supported and full of eyecandy. I use Ultimate Edition 2.1 x64bit.
my 2 cents
If you're new to linux: ubuntu (I started on mandriva, which I think is also really good. Bonus: compiz can be selected as default during install )
If you want to learn the true unix core of linux: slackware
Once you know what you're doing: gentoo
Got all three on my machine right now to play around with, with a shared home partition
I use Ubuntu, which is a knock-off of Debian, and that is a GREAT thing because the "apt-get" tools (like the Synaptic Package Manager) are the best thing going for upgrading and maintaining the Linux system.
Thanks for all the replies, started with ubuntu which has come a long way since the last time i played with linux, that extreme edition is pretty sweet, i have to assume, that all of that can be added to your basic ubuntu install, once i figure out what im doing again
I want to do some Android development and I currently have access to a Vaio running Vista Home Premium and a MacBook Pro running Leopard. I was considering installing Linux or Ubuntu on my Vaio, is this a good idea? What are the perks to an open source OS (I can only imagine after seeing what Linux based Android OS is capable of)
jbraucht said:
I want to do some Android development and I currently have access to a Vaio running Vista Home Premium and a MacBook Pro running Leopard. I was considering installing Linux or Ubuntu on my Vaio, is this a good idea? What are the perks to an open source OS (I can only imagine after seeing what Linux based Android OS is capable of)
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I don't think there's any as far as Android development is concerned. ADB and Eclipse run on Windows just as fine as they do on Linux, and if you need any GNU tools there's always Cygwin.
I develop under Linux myself, but that's just because it's my main OS (after you get around all the problems and learn how to use it basic tasks become quicker by a fair amount). If I were using Windows, I doubt I would bother putting Linux on my machine just for Android development.
Either way, it's up to you to try and see whichever is more comfortable for you.
I like the spirit of Linux. Microsoft is a soul sucking evil, not to mention Vista drains ungodly resources just to idle. If I load Ubuntu will it wipe my hd like any other OS? I don't have an external at the moment, is it possible to make a small storage partition that won't get touched?
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jbraucht said:
I like the spirit of Linux. Microsoft is a soul sucking evil, not to mention Vista drains ungodly resources just to idle. If I load Ubuntu will it wipe my hd like any other OS? I don't have an external at the moment, is it possible to make a small storage partition that won't get touched?
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It all depends on how you partition your HDD. If you have enough free space you can just shrink your Vista partition and install Ubuntu alongside it in a separate partition thus leaving your Windows untouched. Hit Google with something like "installing Ubuntu after Vista" and you'll get many useful guides.
Just note that after installing Ubuntu you might need a lot of coffee, many hours, or days, and lots of head bashing against the table before you will get everything to work as you'd like After that you'll be free again... totally free, until you decide to upgrade to a newer release
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Just note that after installing Ubuntu you might need a lot of coffee, many hours, or days, and lots of head bashing against the table before you will get everything to work as you'd like After that you'll be free again... totally free, until you decide to upgrade to a newer release
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now you're scaring me. i have my vaio open in front of me and all i can think is "remember how much stumbling through freeing the captivate made you a crazy person? just wait."
Now I'm getting tempted to wipe my old XP computer and stick Linux on it. Could be fun to learn.
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You can boot Ubuntu from CD-ROM or USB stick if you want to try it out. Of course it's a lot slower than a full installation but at least it won't touch your harddisc! Check out the Ubuntu site for instructions.
I have two laptops at home and in the meanwhile I'm running Ubuntu on both of them. The first one is dual booting with Windows 7 (in case I want to do some gaming) and on the second one I totally wiped out Windows!!!
I never did any Linux before but so far I didn't run into any problems at all. Ubuntu is working smooth directly after installation. No problem to connect to WLAN (just as easy as on Windows 7) and downloading apps, development tools, and whatever from Ubuntu software store is just as easy as on Android!
For Android app development you don't necessary need any Linux. But if you want to play with the NDK then you might want to know that there's no Google support for Windows, so Linux is recommended here. If you want to compile the Android OS itself then a Linux machine is more suitable as well.
On Windows there's still the possibilty to use some Cygwin emulation or whatever but I never tried it myself, instead I thought for myself: I want to do Linux or I don't want to do Linux?
If you are more comfortable with a Linux PC then you'll also get a better understanding on the way Android is working in case you are interested in the internals, file system, shell, etc.
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now you're scaring me. i have my vaio open in front of me and all i can think is "remember how much stumbling through freeing the captivate made you a crazy person? just wait."
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Haha, well maybe I was a bit too harsh. Really depends how anal you are about things working properly
I have faith in my ability to fix anything. I can't change the boot options on my vaio tho, I can't get to the right menu
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I recommend ubuntu. Compared to earlier years, almost everything just works out of the box, very basic and easy. You can load up a live cd/usb, install along side your current os with a very small partition size [I use about 8g out of my 120g hdd] because ubuntu is smart enough to read ntfs file systems, so it will be able to read anything that is on the windows partition as well. It will automatically install grub, allowing you to pick between os's when you boot, and everything is swell. Though i would upgrade to windows 7 first, as vista = crap
Is it possible to develop a Slax NAND build for HD2?
Everything is possible, but someone needs to do it and this often depends on general or personal interest.. And as we see there isn't much interest even in Ubuntu.. Sadly..
I interested on this...
What's that? Linux? If yes, it should more easier to port it to the HD2...
WAIT! Where is the source code?
hopkinskong said:
I interested on this...
What's that? Linux? If yes, it should more easier to port it to the HD2...
WAIT! Where is the source code?
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It's a tiny linux @ slax.org and
yehoo said:
It's a tiny linux @ slax.org and
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and? and what?
hopkinskong said:
and? and what?
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Oh God the suspense!!!
Looks like a 'normal' Linux distro..
We already have Ubuntu if you want KDE.
Well its small enough to be flashed to NAND.
yeah this would actually be interestingly enough to port its only 200 MBs not bad if only someone started getting interested into building it, does sound like quite a treat
I'd use it. Wish I could build. D:
I interested on this and i want to compile it, just can't find the source...
If i can find the source, i also don't know where to start... This is my first porting!
PS: Only SD Version lol, i don't like flashing HSPL on my phone
I don't know why people seem to think there is no interest in Ubuntu on the HD2 anymore, people have just switched to using the nand version of android so without the magldr version being released people can't use ubuntu on their phones, I personally have been waiting for the last few months for the magldr version to launch but it seems like the project is dead, some users have reported getting it working but no one seems willing to explain in detail how they did it, or upload a working version them selves. Back to the topic, I would love to have slax as well.
great idea
this Slax is actually the best idea i've seen so far, when it comes to linux distro's on our HD2. now i can see why ubuntu is popular for desktops and laptops, and it's nice that it comes with all that bloatware so you can just run it right out of the box. in fact i currently run linux mint on my laptop and desktop at home which is very similar to ubuntu. i enjoy it a lot.
however, when it comes to our phones we dont necessarily need all that extra stuff hogging space, processor etc. if we could get Slax going, then we could choose those programs we want through the repository and who doesn't like to customize?
above all, this would also increase performance, as we've all come to learn that when it comes to computing, less programs = better. if i was in charge of the whole operation, i would suspend all linux projects right now and focus all elements on the Slax project. get this running and then branch from it.
2 big selling points...
1. size, Ubuntu 3+ gigs - Slax 200MB
2. portability. Slax is designed to be a 'pocket operating system' as it says on it's home page.
hope this gets going +1 for bringing it to attention.
Slax - your pocket operating system
I have recently uploaded guides to running Ubuntu, Debian etc at good speed under Nandroid. Check the Ubuntu Dev Forum.
Great, a big bump first
Ok, i just tried, Slackware worked on HD2 via MAGLDR(I didn't get WM6.5, so i didn't test on HaRET)
I have boot into runlevel 3(multiuser mode, hardware btn work)
but when i switch to runlevel 4, i can't start my GDM/KDE,XDE, and i have searched halfday on the web i can't find any solution...
I tried GDM for i486, it returned:
Code:
gdm-binary:cannot execute binary file
And i can't find any GDM for ARM... Hmm Yes, i find a GDM for arm, but it is debian...
So any solution?
Things need to be do more research:
Make GUI back using GDM/KDE/XDE
touchscreen?
3G?
Wifi?
I can't continue if i can't solve the GDM problem!
btw, i know slackware would very fast it was only ~200 MB, it would be faster if i put this on NAND, but how?
have you tried grabing the source for the GDM from wither the backtrack or ubuntu repos? with the source alone, you should be able to compile it into SLAX (if the lack of a custom kernel will let you though, ive been having that problem frequently with the BT im working on.)
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have you tried grabing the source for the GDM from wither the backtrack or ubuntu repos? with the source alone, you should be able to compile it into SLAX (if the lack of a custom kernel will let you though, ive been having that problem frequently with the BT im working on.)
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Will it be great just grab this?
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/
Thanks
I was thinking the easyist way to get it is to boot up bt or Ubuntu, go to synaptic, and find the source in there. I thougt I saw it in bt, but I can't check, all my batteries are dead lol
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z3nful said:
I was thinking the easyist way to get it is to boot up bt or Ubuntu, go to synaptic, and find the source in there. I thougt I saw it in bt, but I can't check, all my batteries are dead lol
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I just clone the git, then i can't continue, i received this error:
Code:
[email protected]:~/Desktop/HD2Slackware/gdm/gdm$ ./autogen.sh
No such schema 'org.gnome.power-manager'
No such schema 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys'
**Error**: Script `./data/make-dconf-override-db.sh' failed
But i have installed Power Manager already
And because i can't find gdm-source/dev in the package manager, so i think the HD2 Ubuntu will have a same result...
So... What should i do?
Thanks
Update:
I just grabbed a tar.gz from their site and it already contains "configure" file, so i don't need to do autogen.sh
And now its the problem, how to cross compile that stuff?
make <-- No error, but where is the product?
make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/path-of-toolchain <--- the result is same as running "make", i think it igroned my cross compile var lol
I felt sleepy, see your reply tomorrow... (Its 4:20 AM lol)
I got no idea, I've mainly just worked with debian/Ubuntu :/ I clouldnt find the right sources either
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I wasn't sure where to put this but oh well, if it shouldn't be here a mod can move it
Anyway I just wanted to say, I managed to install windows 3.1 on my tab through dosbox with the original windows setup files. There isn't much use for it but it works fine and can install old dos games. I am going to try the same process for windows 95, now that would be cool. I read it has been done on android. But will have to see after I extract the win 95 setup files.
Also if anybody asks the question what is the point of doing that?
The answer is because I can and I want to ;-)
Cool. I'd like to see XP installed if at all possible after you attempt 95 (and succeed at it) .
Xp would be impossible really. Not by any meens I am aware of anyway. Pretty sure I can get 95 working. Still trying to find a working win95 image. All the .img files I have tried are missing the boot file. I am about to start looking again Also win 98 may be possible, sombody managed to boot it on another android device (can't remember what it was) but it was so laggy it was un useable but with the tab 10.1's power maybe it could work. Don't know though, it wasn't run through dosbox anyway.
Well done. It would have been slightly more impressive if you managed to install it off original floppies!
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Xp would be impossible really. Not by any meens I am aware of anyway. Pretty sure I can get 95 working. Still trying to find a working win95 image. All the .img files I have tried are missing the boot file. I am about to start looking again Also win 98 may be possible, sombody managed to boot it on another android device (can't remember what it was) but it was so laggy it was un useable but with the tab 10.1's power maybe it could work. Don't know though, it wasn't run through dosbox anyway.
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It was a Samsung Moment, oddly enough, if I remember right.
Not sure. It has been done on nokias n900, psp and ps3. I have managed to get win 95 working on my tab but all from an image and not with dosbox so can't access my own files like I can on win 3.1. I also got windows 3.11 going in dos box wich is a bit better than 3.1 with a few improvements. For 95 I used files for another android phone and it uses libsdl to load the image of 95, but like I say that way I can't access my sd card through 95, but if I get it going in dosbox my sd is mounted as the hdd. I think I can extract the image and add things too it like game files and stuff. If anybody wants to run 3.11 or 95 on there tab I can post links and files but just so you know %95 of it is other people's work, I just got it going on the tab, 3.11 was a bit harder as it wouldnt boot on it's own in dos box so had to merge the 3.11 windows folder with my 3.1 folder and then it worked Installing 3.1 was crazy cos it takes you though the old windows install just like a pc and installs the windows folder on sd then you boot from that in dosbox using the win.com file. Anyway it's just a bit of fun and it's keeping me occupied so if anybody wants to play around I can tell you how. Don't know if I can post windows files here though, anybody know the score on that? I am pretty sure 3.1 and 95 are considderd abandonware as it would be impossible to purchase them from microsoft, I had bough them many years ago so technically I own the license to them so can download them legally
I had Win98 (I think) running on my Nexus One, it's a fun gimick.
Would be better on the GTab.
Yeah 95 and 98 will work fine just dosbox can't mount the sd as a drive when using the boot cmd so nothing can be installed unless I can unpack the .img file and add stuff, still haven't got to my computer yet to try 3.1 is fully functional as it runs inside dos box , the sd is mounted as the file system so you can navigate through windows to install old dos games and 3.1 apps
GalaxyNinja said:
Well done. It would have been slightly more impressive if you managed to install it off original floppies!
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Difficult seeing the lack of a 3.5 floppy drive on the tab!
Anyway the floppies didn't contain windows, just the boot files and drivers to use the cd rom.
Content redacted.
Have a nice day.
BoulderGeek said:
I used to have to install Windows 3.1 and office with a pile of 80 floppy disks.
I think of Win3.1 as only slightly less attractive than those partial birth abortion posters the clinic bombers harass people with. That kruft needs to stay dead and buried.
Kudos for the technical chops, but I want all Windows zombies to die harsh deaths.
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Lol. Nice image. But if you ain't got anything interesting to post then don't bother. So what if 3.1 and 95 are old and crappy. That's not the point. The point is Android lets us do so much stuff and it is always good to find out what our devices can do. *****ing and slagging somthing off is just stupid. The whole idea od these forums is so people can stretch the linits of of there phones and tablets. Yes running 3.1 isn't exactly stretching the 10.1's power but being able to install and run windows on android is pretty crazy. I only started this thread to tell people about it. It was just a little project for me cos wanted to play some of the ganes I did when I was young.
Not interested in starting an argument but nobody wants to see comments like that!
Edited due to an inability to communicate my original intent.
Good for you.
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Edited due to an inability to communicate my original intent.
Good for you.
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No point trying to sound clever after talking about aborted babys like that!
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No point trying to sound clever after talking about aborted babys like that!
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Stfu, troll. You should be aborted. your inability to read disqualifies you.
Eat a bowl of dicks.
Posted from a BAMF 'Bolt running Skyraider Zeus.
Lol
Originally Posted by BoulderGeek
I used to have to install Windows 3.1 and office with a pile of 80 floppy disks.
I think of Win3.1 as only slightly less attractive than those partial birth abortion posters the clinic bombers harass people with. That kruft needs to stay dead and buried.
Kudos for the technical chops, but I want all Windows zombies to die harsh deaths.
Which part of that have I misunderstood?!?!
Okay guys I have been looking around the internet and I am bumbfounded by all of the crap that you have to sift through to get a simple answer.
I am a Student in a Robotics Team at a community college. I am trying to impliment the Kinect and Android powered phones/tablets into our program, but when I try and find the topic I get overwelmed by all of the technical jargin that they have on these sites.
I am a senior in Electrical Engineering Tech. but have little programming skill. If anyone could help me with this robot that I am building I would be extremely greatfull.
I am trying to use these two sites for inspiration and one is even a how to site, but I cannot figure out what it is trying to say.
raymondlo84.blogspot.com/2011/07/howto-using-microsoft-kinect-on-tegra.html
blog.recursivepenguin.com/?p=70
I would like to just get the interface working but I have plans on either controlling a Propeller microcontroler to move forward and reverse and/or just controlling a paint-ball gun so that it can move up and down.
If anyone can help please do so. I know this is, what I believe to be, a hard task to jump into, but know that if you do help you are helping the Robotics Team expand their horizons in a small town in southern West Virginia.
Maybe helpful...
Ubuntu Manual Install
Quick copy-paste instructions to get up-and-running instantly:
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sudo apt-get install git-core cmake libglut3-dev pkg-config build-essential libxmu-dev libxi-dev libusb-1.0-0-dev
git clone git://github.com/OpenKinect/libfreenect.git
cd libfreenect
mkdir build
cd build
cmake ..
make
sudo make install
sudo ldconfig /usr/local/lib64/
sudo glview
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I found this and tried it with a copy of chroot on my Acer Iconia but it doesn't detect that I have a kinect connected via the usb. I believe that the usb is not implemented over the bridge where I am viewing the ubuntu using the VNC viewer.
source: http://openkinect.org/wiki/Getting_Started
Also this will not work with the new Ubuntu 11.10 so I have no idea if this is even a good way of even doing this anymore. I know it worked on 10.10.
I am not sure what help this will be, but you may want to check out the FIRST Robotics competition forums. The task this year is to build a robot that can shoot basketballs from input delivered via Kinect.
http://forums.usfirst.org/forumdisplay.php?f=1537
It may not help you get the kinect stuff running on your A500, but it may be useful in working with it after you get it up and running.
Thank you Psichi for your help in the future. I also see some files that I could use with the windows problems that I have been having with it. lol.
I really only need help with getting the Ubuntu chroot on my Acer Iconia A500 to be able to read something when it is hooked into the USB slot on the side. It is running perfectly but the connection is not there.
You have the power for the kinect unit plugged in as well right? A developer on my team at work mentioned the unit can't do power over usb on anything other than the new xbox.
I know it is a stupid question, but the amount of times I forget to rule out the simple things are more than I would like to admit
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Yes I went out and bought a 30 dollar plug in that separated the USB and the power. I had this working on an older version of Ubuntu but it won't connect via chroot now because the USB functionality doesn't bridge to the emulated Ubuntu...
You should have a look at hirotakaster.com he has connected Kinect to Android using OpenNI 1.5 and 2
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Yes I went out and bought a 30 dollar plug in that separated the USB and the power. I had this working on an older version of Ubuntu but it won't connect via chroot now because the USB functionality doesn't bridge to the emulated Ubuntu...
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NUIDROID/NUITRACK SDK - Android TV
MarkDurbin said:
You should have a look at hirotakaster.com he has connected Kinect to Android using OpenNI 1.5 and 2
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looks like 3divi provides kinect ndk Nuitrack (NUIDROID). I did registration in 3divi.com byt every time i got only welcome message. I am trying to figure out if i can get this SDK and can connect Kinect to my Android Ijealy beaan) TV. If anyone has got this SDK then please share also let me know if this could work out..
http://devpost.com/software/3d-gesture-recognition-middleware-and-sdk