Can I copy radio version from 1 XDA to another? - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

I have in my possession 2 XDA's at the moment. 1 with a USA T-Mobile radio version 6.18 and another with a UK O2 4.21 radio version. I'd like both to have the USA T-Mobile radio version 6.18.
Can someone explain or point me to how to copy the radio from 1 to another with an SD card?
Thanks in advance.

I know about the SD backup and restore through the bootloader. I have version 5.15 btw.
When I try to backup the GSM, and I assume this is the radio, it says "Please connect RS232 and run PC Monitor."
I don't know what this means and havn't found a reference to it yet on this site.

Just get the update from tmobile, and take the radio files out of the english directory and put them in /windows on your device, and flash the radio that way.

The TMobile update has 1 NBF file - NK.nbf The radio and the OS files aren't separated.
Once the T-Mobile OS update is finished, it launches the TMUpdate program that then tries to updates the Radio, but since the radio is at 4.21, it won't update the radio to 6.18 because of some internal version check.

johnp263
I have a similar problem with an O2 XDA.
OS update works fine. During GSM update the connection dropped.
After reboot I have a blank screen.
When I try to backup the GSM, and this is the radio, it says "Please connect RS232 and run PC Monitor."
I also don't know what this means.
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please help with radio stack

I upgraded to 4.005
it was OK, everything worked
then I upgraded to the radio stack 4.21 from RSU4.15 O2
it was done OK, but my PPC do NOT see the network!
I tried to use bootloader (right button) to change the GSM band
from 900 to 1900 to 900/1800 and then I made soft-reset each time
but it was nothing.
network is unrecognized.
I'm ask for help in European network bands.
Can I degraded radio stack?
or can I find correctly radio stack for European networks?
backup do not work too
I have the backup of my previous PPC2002PC
I made via booloader to SD card
I tried to reinstall from the backup
everything was ok,
but after the reset the old OS try to upgrade the system
(I think it try to upgrade the radio stack, because the old OS I see)
then it display "Flash Failed" and going to the reset and again again again...
so, this way is not working.....
where to find a correct radio stack for European networks?
solution is here!!!!!!!
SOLUTION IS:
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2038&start=75
(page 4)
"For all of you having the same problem I have been having after upgrading to the O2 4.21 RSU here is what I have found makes the loading of the RSUpgrade files into the \windows directory work. You need to also copy the monitor_ul_bs.m0 and monitor_ul_bs.map files to the windows directory. Then when you execute the RSUpgrade.exe it works.
I posted this on another thread but thought it might help someone else here."
it made me 6.24 version! and it works now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks barjohn, so many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
where to find these two files?
Thanking you all

How do I upgrade from Special Edition ROM v1.2 to PPC2003?

Hi,
I installed XDA-developers Special Edition ROM v1.2 to unlock my SX56, but I really need PPC2003 on my device.
How do I go about installing the new PPC2003 Rom? Will my device still unlocked if I do this?
Thanks for your help,
Therese
Re: How do I upgrade from Special Edition ROM v1.2 to PPC200
tperri said:
Hi,
I installed XDA-developers Special Edition ROM v1.2 to unlock my SX56, but I really need PPC2003 on my device.
How do I go about installing the new PPC2003 Rom? Will my device still unlocked if I do this?
Thanks for your help,
Therese
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You can install it like aou install any other ROM.
Your device will be still unlocked...
HTH
Stefan
thank you!
I'll try that right away, then!
-Therese
I tried to run the instsall from Siemens and got an error me
I attached a gif oh the error
Re: I tried to run the instsall from Siemens and got an erro
the only way is to extract the nbf from the upgrade package and use sd-flash upgrade method. the original at&r siemens installer will always verify your xda rom b4 proceeding. another way would be flash back to at&t ppc2003 rom and the installer will work.
tperri said:
I attached a gif oh the error
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I don't know how to what you suggested ...
Are there any detailed documents I can read about doing this?
Thanks!
Re: I don't know how to what you suggested ...
tperri said:
Are there any detailed documents I can read about doing this?
Thanks!
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thats my question, anyone have some clues for a not-so savvy person to go from xda's rom to wm2003?
Thanks
hope this will help:
1. cook any wm2003 ROM from the kitchen at www.yorch.net and select the .nbf file type and download the resulted file which should be of 32 MB in size.
2. insert a 64 MB or higher SD card in your xda and use the OSImage tool in the XDAtools application to move this file to the SD card using the PC and the cradle.
3. go to the bootloader screen (power + soft reset). the xda will recognize the card content and it will be flashed.
4. do hard reset and you should get a new wm 2003 ROM by now
good luck
try this upgrade procedure
I got the same error ERROR 012: CHECK ERROR when running the PPC2003 upgrade from Siemens. So here what I did to get around this.
1. Download and install XDATools-Jeff. http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDAtools-Jeff.exe
2. To upgrade the ROM to A.30.09 ENG:
a. When install the upgrade package from Siemens, the install process created a folder named SX56 upgrade utility in your PC's Program Files folder.
b. You will find the ROM image in file NK.NBF in this path C:\Program Files\SX56 upgrade utility\english\NK.NBF
c. Use the OSImageTool from the XDAtools installed in step 1.
d. Specify Source: C:\Program Files\SX56 upgrade utility\english\NK.NBF
e. You will have 2 options for the Destination. The safest option will be download the image to the SD Memory Card, then install from the card. Or you can download the image directly to the XDA's internal ROM.
f. Folow the instruction on the screens. Should take about 5 minutes to download the image.
g. Cold boot after install is completed. Check your ROM version to make sure it is A.30.09 ENG
Note that the above procedure will only upgrade the ROM and not the Radio Stack. If you want to upgrade the Radio Stack, here is the procedure:
3. Upgrade to Radio Stack version A.33.02:
a. In the folder C:\Program Files\SX56 upgrade utility\english, you will find the following 4 files:
monitor_ul_bs.m0
monitor_ul_bs.map
RSUpgrade.cp64
RSUpgrade.exe
b. Use ActiveSync to copy these 4 files to your Pocket_PC's Windows directory.
c. You will then run the RSUpgrade on your Pocket PC. This will install the RS upgrade. Use the File Explorer to locate the RSUpgrade.exe and then click on this object to execute.
d. When the upgrade is completed, cold boot, then check for the Radio Version to make sure it is A.33.02.
Good luck and hope this help!
di we have to upgrade to the n radio lavel ?
I have an unlocked [email protected] Sx56 that i got form rogers.com an AT&T canada company... I personally use the unit with a Fido (microcell) plan
i did upgrade it using the instructions you posted here and it was a success...
Do i have to upgrade to the latest Radio level... now iam at A.20.10 or i would lose my GSM capabily as they say here at the forum..
thanks in advance
Ps. I noticed that my sesitivity bar grapg is allways at bar one i used to have 2 to 3 bars or is just the new graphices for ppc2003.
Thanks for the mini guide. I do have a n00b question though. What is the purpose of upgrading the Radio Stack?
Also, I'm here in the US with a T-Mobile PPC phone which I am selling (just didn't get that much use out of it). As incentive to buyers, I offered to unlock it, originally thinking that I could just use the XDAunlock.exe to do it, but it turns out the phone is a 3.14.40, I have no serial cable (only the usb cradle), and no SD card (though it would hurt to pick up one).
So is it still possible for me to unlock this phone, I guess using the XDA Special Edition ROM, without having a SD card? From reading some stuff on here, I think that's right, but if I ever need to go back to the original ROM, or upgrade to one of the WM2003 ROM, I need an SD card to use with the XDAtools?
If anyone can PM me with some general info on this stuff I would greatly appreciate it, as I really don't have time right now to scour the forums as much as I'd like to. Basically, you can see my device info in my profile, so if you can give tips on how to unlock, backup original ROM, and what I can/cannot do without a SD card, that would be wonderful. XDAUSER's post gives a good guide on upgrading to the WM2003 so I guess that's covered. Thanks in advance for helping out a n00b.
Diggin the help!
Followed the instructions from XDAUSER...works great! Thank you!
Acutally, I performed the proceedure using the Seimens 2002 update first. When I reset the device, it booted up fine...it didn't update the radio stack during the install, however.... I reset the device, it came up and created an active sync - then just ran the 2003 update utility. Worked GREAT, and updated the radio stack automagically.
p.s. I don't have a memory card, so just did it right to the device! (I was chewing my nails!)
I really appreciate this site, and the users who give great advice... :wink:
Thanks again!
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XDAUser, when I cold booted, my ROM version said 30.05 - is that ok?
How do I look at my radio stack version? Can I only see that when I cold boot?
Thanks for all your help!
Therese
XDAUSER said:
I got the same error ERROR 012: CHECK ERROR when running the PPC2003 upgrade from Siemens. So here what I did to get around this.
1. Download and install XDATools-Jeff. http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDAtools-Jeff.exe
2. To upgrade the ROM to A.30.09 ENG:
a. When install the upgrade package from Siemens, the install process created a folder named SX56 upgrade utility in your PC's Program Files folder.
b. You will find the ROM image in file NK.NBF in this path C:\Program Files\SX56 upgrade utility\english\NK.NBF
c. Use the OSImageTool from the XDAtools installed in step 1.
d. Specify Source: C:\Program Files\SX56 upgrade utility\english\NK.NBF
e. You will have 2 options for the Destination. The safest option will be download the image to the SD Memory Card, then install from the card. Or you can download the image directly to the XDA's internal ROM.
f. Folow the instruction on the screens. Should take about 5 minutes to download the image.
g. Cold boot after install is completed. Check your ROM version to make sure it is A.30.09 ENG
Note that the above procedure will only upgrade the ROM and not the Radio Stack. If you want to upgrade the Radio Stack, here is the procedure:
3. Upgrade to Radio Stack version A.33.02:
a. In the folder C:\Program Files\SX56 upgrade utility\english, you will find the following 4 files:
monitor_ul_bs.m0
monitor_ul_bs.map
RSUpgrade.cp64
RSUpgrade.exe
b. Use ActiveSync to copy these 4 files to your Pocket_PC's Windows directory.
c. You will then run the RSUpgrade on your Pocket PC. This will install the RS upgrade. Use the File Explorer to locate the RSUpgrade.exe and then click on this object to execute.
d. When the upgrade is completed, cold boot, then check for the Radio Version to make sure it is A.33.02.
Good luck and hope this help!
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Upgrading Radio Stack
I'm new to the Pocket PC Phone device so not quite sure what all the enhancements goes into RS A.33.02. I heard that there is some GPRS enhancements for continous data connection. This is great if you use the XDA for data such as internet access. So far, I cannot find any official documentation from neither Siemens nor AT&T about this new RS???
My RS was at version A.20.10 and it was working fine with Cingular SIM while roaming on other networks such as T-Mobile or ATT. But as soon as I'm returning to the local service area, I got no signal on my XDA. I guess it is because I'm in a small town and their cellular network has not yet been upgraded. I contacted Cingular Technical Support but they refused to help me since I don't use their equipment. This is kindda sad because I'm working in this small town 80% of my time.
I then try to upgrade RS to the newest version A.33.02 from Siemens in hoping that it will fix the problem, but still no signal. I read somewhere in this forum that I should try to upgrad to T-Mobile RS, but when I try to download the T-Mobile upgrade file from Yorch.net, I cannot unzip the file because of its password protection. I tried to download the RS upgrade directly from T-Mobile, but I need to have a valid T-Mobile phone number (which I don't have) in order to download.
So for now, I have to use a Cingular cell phone while I'm in this small town and carry both a cell phone and my XDA. When I'm travelling outside of this local service area (roaming), I switch the SIM card. It such a pain and I hope I don't wear out the SIM card from switching it back/forth.
If the current RS is working for you, then don't upgrade it. Unless you know the new RS will give you the functionality that you will need. If you decided to upgrade, make sure you save a copy of the previous RS version in case you need to go back. Use the RS upgrade procedure as a guide.
Good Luck.
Re: Upgrading Radio Stack
I have Cingular and can't get their SIM card to work in my device - how did you do that? I was going to go out and get a T Mobile SIM instead but if I can get the Cingular to work, I won't.
Is it the radio stack version that makes using the Cingular SIM possible? If so, that is the radio stack I need to get.
Can you help me with getting that one?
TY!!!
XDAUSER said:
I'm new to the Pocket PC Phone device so not quite sure what all the enhancements goes into RS A.33.02. I heard that there is some GPRS enhancements for continous data connection. This is great if you use the XDA for data such as internet access. So far, I cannot find any official documentation from neither Siemens nor AT&T about this new RS???
My RS was at version A.20.10 and it was working fine with Cingular SIM while roaming on other networks such as T-Mobile or ATT. But as soon as I'm returning to the local service area, I got no signal on my XDA. I guess it is because I'm in a small town and their cellular network has not yet been upgraded. I contacted Cingular Technical Support but they refused to help me since I don't use their equipment. This is kindda sad because I'm working in this small town 80% of my time.
I then try to upgrade RS to the newest version A.33.02 from Siemens in hoping that it will fix the problem, but still no signal. I read somewhere in this forum that I should try to upgrad to T-Mobile RS, but when I try to download the T-Mobile upgrade file from Yorch.net, I cannot unzip the file because of its password protection. I tried to download the RS upgrade directly from T-Mobile, but I need to have a valid T-Mobile phone number (which I don't have) in order to download.
So for now, I have to use a Cingular cell phone while I'm in this small town and carry both a cell phone and my XDA. When I'm travelling outside of this local service area (roaming), I switch the SIM card. It such a pain and I hope I don't wear out the SIM card from switching it back/forth.
If the current RS is working for you, then don't upgrade it. Unless you know the new RS will give you the functionality that you will need. If you decided to upgrade, make sure you save a copy of the previous RS version in case you need to go back. Use the RS upgrade procedure as a guide.
Good Luck.
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quick side question: where can I find the T-mobie final beta of WM2003? Did a search of the forum and can't find any info.
Also, if I use the Siemens WM2003 upgrade, then is there info I have to enter in by hand to get the phone to continue to connect to the T-mobile network? Would it just be the same values that were programmed in my phone prior to upgrading? Thx.
Re: try this upgrade procedure
tperri said:
XDAUser, when I cold booted, my ROM version said 30.05 - is that ok?
How do I look at my radio stack version? Can I only see that when I cold boot?
Thanks for all your help!
Therese
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If you downloaded and install the upgrade from Siemens, then you should get the ROM A.30.09 ENG image. I downloaded the english version here:
http://www.my-siemens.com/MySiemens...D%2FHD%2FSX56POCKETPCPHONE%2Fdanda%2F,00.html
To check your current ROM/RS version:
Start>Settings, select System tab, click Device Information.
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Ok here is what I have in my system settings:
ROM version A.30.05 ENG
ROM date 11/17/03
Radio version 6.12
Protocol Version 324e4
I didn't get version 30.09 when I installed from this link below, I got the 30.05.
What is the radio stack you are on that allows you to use Cingular? Do you know how I can upgrade to that radio stack?
XDAUSER said:
tperri said:
XDAUser, when I cold booted, my ROM version said 30.05 - is that ok?
How do I look at my radio stack version? Can I only see that when I cold boot?
Thanks for all your help!
Therese
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If you downloaded and install the upgrade from Siemens, then you should get the ROM A.30.09 ENG image. I downloaded the english version here:
http://www.my-siemens.com/MySiemens...D%2FHD%2FSX56POCKETPCPHONE%2Fdanda%2F,00.html
To check your current ROM/RS version:
Start>Settings, select System tab, click Device Information.
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Re: try this upgrade procedure
I don't understand why your current ROM is not at A.30.09. Did you try to run any others ROM upgrade beside the one from Siemens? My thinking is that if you run another ROM upgrade, the file NK.NBF may got replaced. Did you try manual upgrade procedure immediately after running the Siemens' upgrade?
I knew the RS version A.20.10 will work with Cingular in roaming mode. I tried this RS version while I'm in Houston Texas, and also in Indianapolis Indiana. But when I arrived at my office in a small town 60 miles from Indianapolis, which is the Cingular local service where I got my cell phone, my XDA stopped working. I then upgrade RS to A.33.02 and still no luck.
I will be back to Houston in Feb 19, then will test the XDA with RS A.33.02.
To get the the RS A.20.10, go to www.yorch.net, click Upgrades, then select A.20.10 to download.
Regards
tperri said:
Ok here is what I have in my system settings:
ROM version A.30.05 ENG
ROM date 11/17/03
Radio version 6.12
Protocol Version 324e4
I didn't get version 30.09 when I installed from this link below, I got the 30.05.
What is the radio stack you are on that allows you to use Cingular? Do you know how I can upgrade to that radio stack?
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What I did was download from Siemens and it wouldn't let me install because I was using the XDA Special Edition ROM, so I installed that OSIMage tool and let that upgrade my XDA. That is all I did. Was I supposed to run another ROM upgrade besides that?
I'll wait on getting that new radio stack until I hear back from you about the other part
Thanks so much!!! You are great.
XDAUSER said:
I don't understand why your current ROM is not at A.30.09. Did you try to run any others ROM upgrade beside the one from Siemens? My thinking is that if you run another ROM upgrade, the file NK.NBF may got replaced. Did you try manual upgrade procedure immediately after running the Siemens' upgrade?
I knew the RS version A.20.10 will work with Cingular in roaming mode. I tried this RS version while I'm in Houston Texas, and also in Indianapolis Indiana. But when I arrived at my office in a small town 60 miles from Indianapolis, which is the Cingular local service where I got my cell phone, my XDA stopped working. I then upgrade RS to A.33.02 and still no luck.
I will be back to Houston in Feb 19, then will test the XDA with RS A.33.02.
To get the the RS A.20.10, go to www.yorch.net, click Upgrades, then select A.20.10 to download.
Regards
tperri said:
Ok here is what I have in my system settings:
ROM version A.30.05 ENG
ROM date 11/17/03
Radio version 6.12
Protocol Version 324e4
I didn't get version 30.09 when I installed from this link below, I got the 30.05.
What is the radio stack you are on that allows you to use Cingular? Do you know how I can upgrade to that radio stack?
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Please help, sx56 not responing

tryed to install XDA-Developers Special Edition Rom v1.2 on my sx56 PW10B1 , and now it froze on the screen
Upgrading.....
It will take about 5 minutes.
Warning: Do not Remove the
USB/Serial connection or power
adapter for the Pocket PC.
What do i do now. Please Help....... i have not removed it from the cradle.
I suggest you get yourself a PC SD card reader and do the upgrade
via the SD card boot loader method if its anyway possible!
HTH
i do have a sd card and card reader. its 256mb, what is the best programe to use. i have cingular service and live in so cal. before this i was using the O2 I think ROM Version: 3.17.03 ENG, ROM Date:5/15/03, Radio version: A.20.10, Protocal version: 32e4. what is the latest software i can use to get a better signal, when it hade the original att software, i hade always a full strenght even iside my home, no im having trouble getting signal anywhere.
Jose said:
i do have a sd card and card reader. its 256MB, what is the best programe to use. i have Cingular service and live in so cal. before this i was using the O2 I think ROM Version: 3.17.03 ENG, ROM Date:5/15/03, Radio version: A.20.10, Protocol version: 32e4. what is the latest software i can use to get a better signal, when it had the original att software, i had always a full strength even inside my home, no I'm having trouble getting signal anywhere.
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Since the AT&T ROM has worked so well for you I suggest you use
the MPx200.org alternate Siemens SX56 ROM. The download link is located on this forums front page under the heading:
"MPx200.org distributes alternate Siemens SX56 ROM".
After you have downloaded the upgrade run it, once it has finished unpacking its files cancel out of it. It should leave everything in place in C:\Program Files\SX56 upgrade utility folder (or you could use WinZip to extract it) then XDATools to load the ROM image to SD.
Info. on XDATools can be found at:
http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2189
Download from:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/OsImageTool.html
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDAtools-Jeff.exe
HTH
thank you very much, now my phone works.....im at home and can surf the net, recive and make calls, thank you.

Flashing RSU PW10B1 need assistance

I received a Tmobile PW10B1 Flashed with Radio version 3.25.00 which this radio version is made for 1800/1900 Mhz anyway I have GSM OK.
I downloaded Radio version 6.25.02, which is made for this unit and copied the 4 files into the \WINDOWS\STARTUP I pressed on the RSUpgrade.exe and I had the RSU installation menu but it stopped on 1% showing "Retry again..."
What do you suggest?
I'm going through the Original Tmobile Rom,Rsu upgrade.
What do you say?
No need for your replies the device is back to business :lol: I wanna add something this device used to have a GSM ERROR :twisted: AND NOW IS ALIVE.

wallaby radio stack update

I have a sx56 and I recently updated the rom to 2003 via the kitchen. I now would like to update my radio stack. I don't have an active sync cable so i need to do it through my sd card. Is this possible? Can someone tell me the best RS to use. I also need directions on how to go about downloading and installing the new radio stack. Also is there any way to upgrade to 2003se without active sync. My phone info is as follows:
unlocked AT&T sx 56 used on t-mobile
pw10b1
ROM 4.01.16 ENG
Radio version A.33.02
protocal version 1.3.3
thanks
Why do you want to upgrade your RadioStack? If it´s all working, i would stay....
Anyway, on the FTP are some RadioStacks, that are designed to run directly on your device.
# Extract the downloaded ZIP-File and copy all files to the /Windows directory of your device.
# Copy the RSUpgrade.exe additional to the /windows/startup directory.
# Make an soft reset of your device.
Without ActiveSync, there is no possibility to upgrade to WM2003SE....
Stefan
Thanks for the quick reply. I don't get great signal strength on my phone and figured a new radiostack might help. But before I take chances upgrading, will a new radiostack help with signal strength?
It may help, but it must not.
You have to choose one of the 6.xx Radio Stacks.
If the upgrade fails, your phone might end as paper weight. That's the risc you have to handle with....
Stefan
DON'T TRY TO UPGRADE RADIO STACKS!!! DANGEROUS!!!
Guys, don't even think of it. Today I killed my wallaby. I had a radio 6.24.00 and I wasn't glad because of poor signal strength in places where other phones work great. I downloaded from xda ftp a radio stack upgrade soft to a version 6.25. Followed the instructions and started the procedure. On 60% it said do try again. I tryed and second time it stopped the procedure of upgrade at the very beginning. So, my phone doesn't work any more. I dont know what is that soft for if it kills the wallby phones. I wish I didn't do that.

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