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Hello all, first post here.
I upgraded my T-Mobile to 4.00.10 'internal test only' Tmobile rom.
I am getting a replacement phone from TMobile and I need to send this one back (Has a bad screen, warranty replacement).
Problem is, the one I am returning has the 4.00.10 ROM loaded... Do you think that the T-Mobile folks will care? I dont want to 'get in trouble'...
or charged for the replacement...
So, here is the question... Should I try to downgrade the ROM and the Radio Stack to its original before I return it?
How will I do that, I haven't seen anyone that has dont this yet, in a consistent way.
Also, is the Radio Stack upgrade included in the NK.NBF file in the RUUxx.exe from T-Mobile?
Thanks in advance for any help you can give!
J
You should definitely put the phone back into the "saleable" condition in which you purchased it. Get an extra sd card, a card reader, or the new xdatools posted here and flash the ROM back to the original Tmobile ROM you bought it with. If you didn't back up your ROM prior to flashing, which unfortunately is typical, you can download it here somewhere, flash it, and no one should be the wiser. By the way, why are you returning it?
I am returning the phone because the screen is messed up... It seem that the protective cover has separated from the 'screen', it is loose, so when you use your stylus, you have to really press down hard before it registers... also, it is extremely inaccurate when using the stylus even after numerous re-alignments.
Is there any way to reflash using SD Card if you dont have an SDCard reader? Can I copy the required files via ActiveSync to the SDCard while it is in the phone, then do a reset to bootloader to reflash via SDCArd?
If so, what files are needed on the sd card?
Another question along the same line... is there a special format for the files used to re-flash rom from the SD card (i.e. directory structure, file is a specific memory space, etc.) that is required when flashing using the BootLoader method?
I think that I can get an SD Card reader, but I am not sure yet...
Also, do you think that I can leave the Radio Stack at 6.24 instead of the orig 6.18?
Thanks, all.
J
I'm thinking of upgrading my o2 XDA to WM2003, it is currently unlocked and I am using the Orange network (UK)
My current Radio Version is : 4.21.00, with 3.17.03 ROM.
Is it possible to just upgrade the ROM and not the radio stack?
If I do this am I definatley still going to be able to make phone calls once upgraded?
I have NO SD Card at present, but am I right in thinking there is a method of upgrading without an SD card?
And one last thing, if it all goes t1ts up I assume I would be able to downgrade back to my current rom.
Many Thanks
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You can upgrade without the sd card. Just download from jeffs kitchen the .exe and it will upgrade while synched to the pc, it will not affect your radio stack. I would suggest getting an sd card, I backed up my original rom to sd and it has got me out of problems. Scan the rom upgrade pages for all the advice you will ever need on the subject.
Hi,
I have a TMobile pocket pc, Rom version: 3.08.10 and Radio Version: 6.02, I want to upgrade it to WM2003, the problem is that I don't have a tmobile phone number, I saved my ROM on a sd card with the Wallaby Bootloader, I downloaded the "XDA OS Image Tool", could I put the "T-mobile ROM Windows Mobile 2003 upgrade 4.00.21" from Yorch and if it doesn't work just reload the old version with Wallaby?
Could I cook a Rom in the Kitchen and install it or I need PHP support?
Thanks
Yes to all, also you'll need to upgrade your radio stack to get the always on GPRS.
BTW where are you located?
HTH
How do I upgrade my radio? I'm in NY but I need the phone also in Europe.
when you said yes you mean also for the kitchen I need PHP support, does that mean a server like Apache installed on my computer?
btw in Wallaby I saved with the first option to the Sd, I think it was CE ROM TO SD, is that ok or I need to do something else?
mml770 said:
How do I upgrade my radio? I'm in NY but I need the phone also in Europe.
when you said yes you mean also for the kitchen I need PHP support, does that mean a server like Apache installed on my computer?
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Yes on the kitchen!
The best way to upgrade the radio stack is to copy the needed files to
your devices Windows folder and install it from there. If you send me a PM with your email address I'll send you the needed files.
You lost me on the needing PHP support, why do you need that?
HTH
what are all these instructions at http://xda-developers.com/ROMkitchen/, is it for someone that wants to run the kitchen on his computer?
should I use the kitchen version .16 or it's more secure the .21 from yorch with XDA OS Image Tool?
mml770 said:
what are all these instructions at http://xda-developers.com/ROMkitchen/, is it for someone that wants to run the kitchen on his computer?
should I use the kitchen version .16 or it's more secure the .21 from yorch with XDA OS Image Tool?
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Yes those instructions are for setting up your own kitchen.
I'd go with .21 cause thats what I'm using.
BTW you can also get ROM version 4.0021 from http://www.yorch.net
under Software.
HTH
I have the 4.00.21 version from Yorch my last question is what I need to select in Wallaby?
1. CE ROM TO SD
2. BOOT TO SD
3. CE+BOOT TO SD
4. GSM ROM TO SD (I guess not)
5. CE + GSM TO SD (also probably not)
Thanks...
Pick door number three and make sure that you have loaded onto the sd card only the nbf file from Yorch's site.
valheru said:
Pick door number three and make sure that you have loaded onto the sd card only the nbf file from Yorch's site.
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you got my a little confused... I thought of backing up to the sd the actual rom and then writing the nbf file to the device, but now you said to load the nbf file to the sd... could please explain...Thanks
Okay, get the os toolset, an sd card reader/writer, an sd card of at least 64mb and do the following:
-install the os toolset
-put device in cradle
-run ostoolset and backup your ROM to your hard drive. Name it something like ppc2002-10-13-03 or something similar. This will backup your ROM only, not any installed programs
-remove your device
-insert the sd card into the reader/writer
-open os toolset again and select the new rom you downloaded from the internet
-select the sd card as the installation drive
-once its done copying put the sd card into your device
-run the wallaby bootloader and have it install the os to your device.
-hard reset when done as directed and BINGO
*** I will point out that it seems you have not read very many of the posts here. DO THIS BEFORE YOU DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ***
I'm actually going through this forum for a week till I decided to ask, since nobody wrote clearly how to do it, Thanks!
Now since I don't have a sd card reader, before I get it, is it possible to upgrade directly without having to do it with the sd card?
Another question, with which extension do I save the backup of my ROM, nb1, img, bin.
Thanks again
what's the difference if I copy the .nbf file to the SD reader or if I just copy it to the sd through the device?
Once again, please read the posts. You can't copy the file to the sd card while in the device for it will only copy the file as a file instead of copying it as a bootable interface. If you don't understand this then you should definitely read more posts. No offense.
You can, if you wish, just us the OS toolset to overwrite your device ROM with any ROM you choose. Just go to the ROM TOOLSET forum to download and follow the instructions there. It is very easy but be careful. I just believe in the aforementioned method for it forces you to take steps to prevent a total loss. I wish you the best of luck.
Oh, if you really want to update your ROM, etc., invest in a card reader. It'll cost you less than $30 which is less than 6% of what you paid for your device most likely.
No matter what you do make a backup of your current ROM!
valheru, thank you very much for taking your time, belive me that I really read allot of posts, if you could direct me in a thread that speaks about this I'll be very happy instead of using your time!
Now I just copied the nbf file to the sd card with OSImage Tool, and when I went in Wallaby it gave me the option to upgrade the ROM, is that ok? or I still need a sd reader,
Thanks again for all your help!
That sounds alright but make sure you make a backup of your current ROM first!
Great!!! It works, now one last question the Radio Version is 6.02, Qman what version did you send me and how do I upgrade?
ok here are the istructions to upgrade to ROM 4.00.21 for a TMobile Pocket Pc Phone Edition.
You just need a sd card of at least 64MB (maybe 32Mb will also work).
Download the OSImage Tool from http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools/ and install it.
Download the Upgrade to 4.00.21 from Yorch.net http://www.yorch.net/downloads/ROMS/T-mobileROM40021.rar.
-put device in cradle
-run osImage Tool and backup your ROM to your hard drive. Name it something like ppc2002-10-13-03 or something similar. This will backup your ROM only, not any installed programs
-open osImage Tool again and select the new rom you downloaded from the internet
-select the sd card as the installation drive
-run the wallaby bootloader and have it install the os to your device.
-hard reset when done as directed and BINGO
(as you could notice some lines where copied from a previous post of valheru, sorry for not giving credit in the begining... :wink: )
@ mml770
When cutting and pasting someone else's post it is polite to quote them or at least give credit to them....hint hint 8)
mml770 said:
Great!!! It works, now one last question the Radio Version is 6.02, Qman what version did you send me and how do I upgrade?
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Boy you guys sure have been having fun, I see! 8)
Its radio stack 6.24.
To upgrade just unzip then copy the four files to your devices Windows folder then run RSUpgrade.exe from there.
I am wanting to upgrade my xda1 to ppc2003. I do not want to change the RSU.
Has anyone done this with their xda1, on O2 in the UK?
If so, which ROM version is best to use. I have been to
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/ but as an amature at this and seen so many saying they have fried their machines I am dubious on a hit and miss approach. I did apply the upgrade on the O2 site for both the ROM and RSU, but I did have instructions to follow.
Which is also the best way of installing. If an SD card, can this have other things on it or does it have to be blank?
A step by step guide would be much appreciated.
Thanks
if it comes as an exe file then change the extention to zip and copy the nbf file out and use xdatools to flash it to a empty sd card after you've don that the sdcard reader should not be able to read the sdcard any more then you put the sdcard in the xda and enter the bootloader and it's pretty much automatic from there
So, ive read post after post on performing this task and it is still beyond my capabilities. My wallaby is running ppc2002, rom version is 3.20.06, radio version 4.21.01 protocol version 32s54. It's running bootloader 6.22, i havent got active sync, xdatools wont run due to missing dll's or some such thing. Have a 1gig sd and a 512mb mmc,,,,
How can i upgrade with this setup? visited rom kitchen (awesome site) and cooked up a rom, extracted NK.nbf,
Need help! Surely i can upgrade with this equipment,
http://www.romkitchen.de/ make an exe then
Rudegar said:
http://www.romkitchen.de/ make an exe then
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So is the exe executable from an sd card?
no the exe is only for activesync upgrades
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
how to flash using sd
if the tool is missing dll's then type in the name of the dll in google and find a place to get the dll and it will work
Rudegar said:
no the exe is only for activesync upgrades
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
how to flash using sd
if the tool is missing dll's then type in the name of the dll in google and find a place to get the dll and it will work
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Right, well got active sync which meens the dll's i needed are in system 32 or whatever. But,,, Does bootloader 6.22 cause problems?? Thanks for all the help,, sure this fone is a bit old but who cares. Massive screen, runs office, windows media, touch screen, great fone
Any suggestions? I cant be the only one without a data cable or cradle. At the end of the day i want the fone to run best as possible. I am thinking there is alot more compatable software for wm2003 then ppc2002? @ the moment im running mame and pacman,,,,,,,, Speaking of software, is the media player in 2002 meant to be slow? As far as video go's ive given up there.
what is your problem?
Problem is i dont seem to be able to downgrade from bootloader 6.22 to 5.15 so i can update the rom to 2003. doing ll this without a data cable or cradle.
Bootloader should not cause any problems.
Missing Dll´s for XDATools came as you have ssen correctly form ActiveSync. So you need to install this programm on your PC to use XDATools. Afterwards you will be able to wirte the ROM on your SD-Card and then flash the new ROM on your device.
So if you don´t have any cradle or cable, and don´t sync with ActiveSync, how did you manage your conacts,install software, exchange files, ....?
Stefan
I see the confusion
I have card reader's on the front panel of my pc. So i am using xardit to transfer the bootloader images onto either an sd or an MMC card. So i transfer the patch with the NB2 extension on to the card. Cold reboot xda and it gets to the normal screen telling me i need the keycard.
I can use either xdarit or isoimagetool to transfer the .NB1 file on to an SD.
I have no data cable, so these are the only methods i can use. Just pc with multi card card, sd car, mmc card.
LumpiStefan, the rom kitchen is a damn fine peice of work!
when i had a wallaby i only ever flashed it using a sdcard reader
was pretty easy used ositool put the nbf / nb1 on the sdcard
after which the cardreader could no longer read the sdcard(that mean it's successfully planted)
then i put in the sdcard and entered the bootloader and it autostart upgrading
and when it's don i hardreset and thats it
Hi And thanks
I have tried this with a 1g toshiba sd and a 512 sandisk mmc, neither seem to auto start an update. I have browsed the web a bit and have found different theories on bootloader being a problem. My card reader is a panel on the front of my pc, or using my ngage. tried formatting fat16 or fat32. Im sure it's currently ppc2002 as this is the first screen after the o2 water screen
I think your problems come from your card reader. Many people have reported, that the internal card reader causes problems in writing the ROMs in correct way on the cards. I would s uggest to use an external card reader/writer.....
Stefan
and those are only 10£$€'ish
Thanks guys for your help, all up and running now. I appreciate the advise. Rudegar, my problem was getting the wrong info from elsewhere, the solution was the card reader, Cost me $9.00 au to buy one. I thank you both