I am a little confused on the various types of updates that are avaible.
Does the Rom update contain a Radio Update??
IS the GSM update the same as a Radio Update...is the ROM update include the OS???
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The Radio unit Update (RUU or Program A) is the OS ( PPC2002)
The radio stack upgrade (RSU or Program B) updates the phone part.
Be very careful with the RSU upgrade. Only do it if you have problems.
regards,
silver
and to confuse matters, RUUv1.09_CEv4.00.05wwe_o2_Ozone.exe contains a rsu-4.21 update
another way to distinguish them:
- wince os updates are usually about 15M
- radio stack updates are usually about 2M
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I have a Qtek 1010 with ROM version 3.16.13 ENG and Radio version 3.19.01. The phone part of my device is very unstable, so I want to upgrade the radio stack and see if that helps. But I am a little confused about the ROM and radio stack versions and hope someone can answer these questions:
-What is the latest radio stack version?
-Where I can get it?
-Are the radio stacks country specific or provider specific?
-Do I need to upgrade the ROM before I can upgrade to the latest radio stack?
I hope someone can help me with this.
I apologize if I'm asking stupid questions, but I would be very grateful if somone could help me with this. I've seen that there are many different radio stack versions. I would like to know if there is a newer version than 3.19.01 that will work with my Qtek 1010 in Norway.
I called my local dealer who told me that 3.19.01 is the newest upgrade available (but it didn't sound like he knew much about it). Does anyone know if this is correct? And if it is, are there any other radio upgrades that will work with my device? Can I e.g. use O2's upgrade for the XDA?
Once again, I apologize if my questions are foolish or have been answered before.
gu said:
I would like to know if there is a newer version than 3.19.01 that will work with my Qtek 1010 in Norway.
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3.19.01 you said... Hmmmm, we have not studied that particular version yet. Please extract it and FTP it to xda-developers.com user 'xdaftp' password 'xdaftp' if you could.
I called my local dealer who told me that 3.19.01 is the newest upgrade available (but it didn't sound like he knew much about it). Does anyone know if this is correct? And if it is, are there any other radio upgrades that will work with my device? Can I e.g. use O2's upgrade for the XDA?
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You can use anyone's upgrade, really. There a few T-mobile American ROM upgrades which also upgrade the (separate) phone ROM when you install them (which is bad, because the phone software is different between 900/1800 and 900/1900), but otherwise you can play to you heart's content.
Until recently, the coolest thing to run was probably the xda-developer Special Edition ROM v1.2. It was based on the O2 3.17.03 ROM, but had lots of features added. Earlier this week, we released ROMkitchen (click here for more information). Setting up your own kitchen is fairly involved, but people have set up publically accessible kitchens you can use. One example is Jeff's kitchen, but others are bound to pop up all over the place.
In the ROMkitchen, you have a choice of basing your new ROM on the O2 3.17.03 ROM, or on the 4.00.05 Windows Mobile 2003 test ROM that's floating out there, and then you can add the freeware of your choice. Installation is a breeze since the kitchen will produce self-extracting compressed .exe files which you just need to execute to install the new ROM.
Read many other messages here to get a feel for things. There's a number of reasons to still use the 3.17.03 (or 3.19.01...) over the WM2003 thing, but for a lot of others it's already cooler than the 3.xx ROMs.
Once again, I apologize if my questions are foolish or have been answered before.
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Well, to be honest we've been lazy, and we haven't spent enough time on writing really good FAQs that represent the current situation. A case of being too busy building the stuff to actually document it all right. And this forum is so busy that I can well imagine people being overwhelmed by it all. I know I am sometimes...
Good luck... (and please don't forget to extract and FTP the 3.19.01. There's documentation on how to extract and backup your old ROM here..)
Thank you very much for your reply. Are you saying that I can use any radio upgrade with my Qtek, or are you talking about operating system upgrades?
To avoid any possible misunderstanding: My current Radio Version is 3.19.01. I'm having a lot of problems with the phone part of my device, so I'm hoping that there is a newer and more stable radio stack version available.
If you're still interested in my 3.19.01 radio stack, I'll try to ftp it to you, but I'm currently getting a permission denied message from your server. I'll try to access it again later. Or you can download the radio stack from this location.
BTW: The ROMkitchen looks excellent. I'll probably do some cooking there soon.
Have been to the kitchen and done some cooking the last night.
Facts:Using SD card for all upgrades
Never cook anything but the Base ROM itself (e.g. no extras)
The upgrade works perfect every time, meaning it ends successfully so that I can do a cold boot to start the "new" ROM image.
ROM version org: 3.16
Current ROM: 3.20.06 ENG
Radio version: 3.19.01
Protocol version: 32S54
Model No: PW10A1
RAM: 32MB
Flash size: 32MB
SD Card size: 64MB
I have been able to switch back and forth between different 2002 ROM's
but every time I upgrade to 2003 ROM the unit hangs on the introductions screen. I see the splash for instans 4.01.19: s "Welcome to T-Mobile"
In the bottom right corner I can see the Protocol version, ROM version and Radio version numbers. BUT there it is and it does not respond to any buttons or even magic words like pretty please with suger on top.
I have tried the following versions:
4.00.33 GER, 4.01.00 ENG, 4.01.16 ENG and A.30.09 ENG
I have no problem getting back to a working unit with almost any 2002 ROM but hey I wanna try it out with a 2003 ROM.
Any ideas anyone? I have been looking around quit a bit but cant see that anyone posted something that helps me out here.
Thanks to everyone who contributes to this great forum!
Jonas
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not sure but maybe the 32MB ram is too little for 2003
these devices are pretty rare i think
maybe you should try doing a search for people with 32MB devices
and their exp with 2003 ?
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not sure but maybe the 32MB ram is too little for 2003
these devices are pretty rare i think
maybe you should try doing a search for people with 32MB devices
and their exp with 2003 ?
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The 32 MB shouldn't be the problem. Using myself a device with only 32 MB without any problems with WM2003 .....
Maybe it's a problem with the Radio Stack...
Nearly all the providers of a WM2003 Release included a Radio Stack Update. Myself i've tested it with the 4.21 and the 3.23. Maybe yours 3.19. is just too old.....
Stefan
Ok, here we go again,
found the Radio Stack Upgrade from O2 uk (V421)
and upgraded witout problem to this one.
No I tried to upgrade with 2003 ROM 4.01.16 ENG but still same thing.
It hangs on boot screen even though it now in the lower right corner says:
G32S54
R4.21.00
4.01.16
I will try to load ROM A.30.09 ENG now.
I let you know how it goes.
/Jonas
Still no luck
Ok I have now tried will all known 2003 ROMs from the kitchen with the same sad result. (hang on boot screen as before)
I now downloaded the official O2 uk release of upgrade for XDAII (Xda_II_Upgrade_v16050.exe) when I unpack this one I find the following files that might be useful ms_.nbf, NK.nbf, Radio_.nbf.
When I try to write the NK.nbf to my SD card XDATools tells me that it does not recognize the file format.
I think I have seen something about this error but I cant find it now.
Im not even sure if this ROM will work. I can not see that this ROM is uploaded in the kitchen either but perhaps it will be?
So Im still stuck so any tips would be great and I keep testing new ways ahead.
/Jonas
hi. as LumpiStefan commended, you need to upgrade the latest radio stack. I think the radio stack 6.24 will work for you. check my posted for the radio stack.
Secondly, the radio stack will work it its specific OS rom image. for example, the radio stack for Tmoble , must match the Tmobile OS. you can not use radio stack built for O2 for Tmobile OS.
Therefore, try to upgrade with matching OS and its Radio Stack. I tried one night with all OS from Tmobile, ATT and OS to come with these solutions.
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you need to upgrade the latest radio stack. I think the radio stack 6.24 will work for you. check my posted for the radio stack.
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That´s wrong. 6.24 is for PW10B Models with 900/1900 MHz GSM. Do not use it on your device
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Secondly, the radio stack will work it its specific OS rom image. for example, the radio stack for Tmoble , must match the Tmobile OS. you can not use radio stack built for O2 for Tmobile OS.
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That´s wrong too. Already used some T-Mobile ROMS with O2 Radiostack....
Stefan
hi LumpiStefan,
Okay. I am wrong. this radio stack use in USA.
Also, I don't know but I had tried to swap the radio stack O2 to run on Tmobile or ATT, the radio stack never turn On.
Also can you help me to have a radio stack version 4.20 or lower. ther repair.zip contain version 4.21. Thanks for correcting me.
Why and when one should upgrade radio stack?
aamer
If your radio is working fine then leave it alone, radio stack upgrades are the reason for many phones becoming useless. Service providers often release an upgrade that contains both rom and radio, I would assume this is to fix bugs and to complement the new rom.
Hey guys,
Newbie here
I have a himalya(XDAII)
Rom Vers. 1.66.00 WWE
Radio 1.10.00
I want 2 know whether i should upgrade to WM5 or not
I mean is it really worth it or not
Can any one help and guide me step by step
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Yes you can. Read on http://buzzdev.net more about. But the upgrade to WM5 is quiet difficult to a newbie. Read carefuly about DOC_Tools,RAMdisk,Memory organisation etc. While in 2003(se)ROM image is everything already prepared,in WM5 you need to install some features additionaly. I am ready to help you with upgrade. Just ask.
I'm about to do the same thing. I have two units to try it on. One is 1.66wwe, 1.10 radio and the other 1.72wwe and 1.14 radio. Should I use one of these units for WM2005 over the other or does it matter?
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You can use the Radio stack with WM5. But if you've got a Wallaby device(is in your profile Rustyrake),that is no WM5 ROM released. 1.66wwe and 1.72wwe are WM2003 ROMs. The latest ROM release of WM5 is 1.60c(and its RAMdisk variations). Most recommended radio for this ROM is 1.08.
I need to warn of few problems in this upgrade:
1. Activesync must be at least v4.0 and for USB connection is needed SP2(for XP).
2. I have still problems with radio and phone. (But other people didn't complain).
3. The speed of this system is a little bit lower than 2003(se).
4. Some of the software must be in latest version for WM5 support.
5. IA Camera interface is a history(pity). It is available only built-in Microsoft camera interface without any adjustments and functions.
6.
I've downloaded 2 official updates from t-mobile.co.uk site for my Compact 3, the latest WM5 ROM and radio fix. Can you tell me if it's worth going ahead and installing them to the phone and doing the upgrades? My phone is working fine, although the battery drains very fast (may not be the rom) and gps fix is always about 2 minutes, sometimes longer.
The T-Mobile WM6 upgrade has expired on their site, so that's a no go anyway.
Obviously I don't want to upgrade unless it's absolutely necessary or unless I'll greatly benefit from it. Since this is just an upgrade rom to the existing WM5 O/S and not WM6, does this mean it will still hard reset the device and erase all data? I'd obviously back everything up first just in case.
Here's the link I downloaded from:
http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/sd_compact3.html
The ROM update file is called: ART_TMOUK_11311001_024990_WWE_Ship_R3.exe
The Radio fix file is called: ARTEIMG_TMO_UK_4.1.13.251_02.92.90_RadioOnly.exe
I presume I don't need to do a Cid unlock as there's nothing on t-mobiles pdf instructions about that. http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/files/install.pdf
My ROM version is 1.13.110.1 WWE
ROM date 22/9/06
Radio version 02.49.90
ExtROM version 1.13.110.101