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I heard from O2 today. The latest update (4.20 / 3.16.32) will not be release. This is due to some bugs (a few which I pointed out, and probably some more in beta testing). They are working on a new release, which should be available soon (6 weeks was mentioned).
I'll keep you posted.

so the new customers ARE being used as beta testers....
hmmm now let me see... no wonder the XDA runs an MS operating system, they are SO much like Microsoft as it is !!! lol.
arf arf

Noo, not a beta.
To cut a long story short, my XDA broke at the weekend. Fortunately it was in warranty so O2 sent me a new one. I was delighted to see a new version of software on it. O2 are now (well on mine anyway) shipping...
ROM: 3.16.32 ENG
Radio Ver: 4.20.00
Protocol Ver: 32S54
Well I have not yet revived a call on it. And as for the SMS there is still no contact name (Sigh).
Well if any one here something I should look out for let me know. And if you want to know any of the new bits post back here and I will try to help out.

update
i have had my new 64mb xda for a few weeks and it works much better then my 32 mb i am on 3.16 rom and 4.20 radio it only froze once on me and i have put loads of different stuff on it. its fine at the moment i am playing with some mms software

Re: Noo, not a beta.
Gil said:
Well I have not yet revived a call on it. And as for the SMS there is still no contact name (Sigh).
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There isnt?
you tried this proggy I take it ?
almost as if it is an official update
http://www.penreader.com/PocketPC/SMS_Name.html

sms name
You need to store number in +44 for the SMS fix to work on 31632... just like the Orange SPIV phone.

Not convinced
I'll not be trusting o2 + M$ for a while again.
I'm looking at Orange next...
The XDA works well in principle. But as we can see the bugs are just too many to make people interested. Makes a good toy though!!

IMATE ROM OR O2 ROM

i have o2 latest rom uk version i read all the time about imate rom is it worth upgrading to 1.66 imate rom or stay as i am and what are the differences in both roms.
thanks hobbit

id just stay with o2s rom to be honest mate saves killing your machine if it happens like.
just wait till theres a easy way to change roms like with the xda1

not worried about killing the machine as its insured against anything including spare parts :wink: lol whoops ive lost it :wink: just want to know which one is best and the difference in software if anything

lol all is good then lol , i dunno how you do the s/w updates to other carrier roms ect... and havent a clue about which is best at the mo im using the new o2 rom which i think is alrite but then again i never used the one that was on it 1st as soon as i got my xda 2 i upgraded it lol

Wing = Herald?

Here Wing and Herald seem to be used interchangeably. However, externally, they are not the same I don't think. I have the T-Mobile Wing and went to a web site to try to get a custom case for it. Thinking it was the Herald, I almost bought one, as the case was for the Herald. However, looking at the pictures closely, the cameras on the back are oriented differently, and there ae some other external differences that would make the custom Herald case not work with the Wing. So I am not sure why people are treating the Herald and Wind as the same thing. Maybe internally they are the same but not externally. Am I missing something?
Thanks.

You are correct, internally they're identical. Many of HTC's phones vary on the outside, depending on what the carrier's specific wants and needs are for their own branding.

TaurusBullba said:
You are correct, internally they're identical. Many of HTC's phones vary on the outside, depending on what the carrier's specific wants and needs are for their own branding.
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NOt completely.
They have different Model-ID - so even when it is unlocked you cannot flash any Herlad rom on a WIng because it is not the same Model-ID. Like the XDA Terra is not the same Model-ID as Herald or WIng. You will get "Error" while flashing a herald rom to WIng or Terra.
Believe me - i tried it

papamopps said:
NOt completely.
They have different Model-ID - so even when it is unlocked you cannot flash any Herlad rom on a WIng because it is not the same Model-ID. Like the XDA Terra is not the same Model-ID as Herald or WIng. You will get "Error" while flashing a herald rom to WIng or Terra.
Believe me - i tried it
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I was referring to the internal components being the same across the board.

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I was referring to the internal components being the same across the board.
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And I just wanted to make clear - that there are minimal differences.
I tried to flash a German WM5 with RUU to German XDA Terra and I got the "error" becuase of Model-ID.
They are getting better and better with every release
Hehe

papamopps said:
And I just wanted to make clear - that there are minimal differences.
I tried to flash a German WM5 with RUU to German XDA Terra and I got the "error" becuase of Model-ID.
They are getting better and better with every release
Hehe
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WM5?!?

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WM5?!?
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For unbricking my "stuck-in-bootloader-Terra" Because there is nooooooooo WM6 update for the Terra right now.
BUT NO SUCESS. SO i had to send it to service.
lol

ive bricked my htc4350 as well and sent it back to sweden since in malta we dont have htc support and mobile was bought from there
got it back after 3 weeks hehe
now i got 2 other versions of wm6 but now i'm afraid to give it a try (you dont blame me hehe)

European English ROM 1.48 Available Now at HTC European Home

Go here:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=804
I bought my phone in Belgium, but I assume all your UK S/N's will get you the same download immediately...
FWIW, server "Europe 1" is VERY slow for me -- using Europe 2 and getting 1Mb --

nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??

DAMIEN123_666 said:
nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??
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yes it is

I wondered the same thing about the camera fix - the camera fix is dated by HTC as being released 2 days after the ROM update so hard to know.
And funny what you said: I downloaded the new ROM but haven't installed it as I'm having second thoughts about the hassle of reinstalling and reconfiguring... I'm interested to hear what everyone thinks (i.e., is there some improvement that actually makes it worth the time).

leetenough said:
yes it is
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Genuine curiosity and ignorance here: Why is it worth it?

I would be interested to know if this rom has Copilot8 trial. I would really like to get rid of it.

DAMIEN123_666 said:
nothing really worth flashing for, well i mean flashing then setting up again, tobad. also is the camera fix intrgrated with this rom ??
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iphoneresister said:
Genuine curiosity and ignorance here: Why is it worth it?
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i meant, that the camera-fix is included

Still not listed on HTC UK site.
I get this message when i try on the Europe one.
"The serial number you’ve provided appears to be invalid. Please try again."
I am assume as mines from O2 they wont let me get it direct from the HTC site.

leetenough said:
i meant, that the camera-fix is included
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Surely the fix isn't included? As the camera fix says its from all versions below 1.6?

bzdemes said:
Still not listed on HTC UK site.
I get this message when i try on the Europe one.
"The serial number you’ve provided appears to be invalid. Please try again."
I am assume as mines from O2 they wont let me get it direct from the HTC site.
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Bummer. Sorry for the false alarm. I guess I should have known there would be a difference between European English and UK English. What the difference is, I have no idea... maybe the pound symbol on the main keyboard or something?

Please note mine is an O2 phone so it will probably say no to me on either site. Someone with a UK completely unlocked/unbranded phone should check.

bzdemes said:
Please note mine is an O2 phone so it will probably say no to me on either site. Someone with a UK completely unlocked/unbranded phone should check.
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I have a sim free bought from Handtec with o2 sim in it and my serial allows the update

Stupid branded phones. I have to either wait for ever for O2 to release a version or try out this gold card method of flashing. Fun Fun.

Bought mine via Vodaphone although it appears to be unbranded. I also get the serial number not recognised text.

tho iam undecided on installing it yet ..as I dont have any issues with my phone except the over bright flash

I need the latest just because its the latest lol. Would be nice if there was a full change log though.

bzdemes said:
Would be nice if there was a full change log though.
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Yes, instead of HTC marketing copy about your staying better connected with your "loved ones"

from the updates that seem to be know at the moment im not going to update yet, i feel my device is running great now i have the camera fix and moving from 1.43 to 1.48 seems to much hassle as i have alot of tweaks and apps to install and configure, if i do install the new one,

Hi,
Is there a quick way to save my Orange rom before I flash the HTC rom (in case I need to revert back to the Orange rom).
Thx,
Ben

3.Staying connected to your loved ones is as important to you as it is to us, and we’ve enhanced our voice quality even more in this update. Now updated, we’re delivering crystal clear sound quality, making it even easier to feel close to your loved ones, even when you are on the move.
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Sounds like a good reason to upgrade. besides, I love to stay up to date. It's a must for me.

O2 uk new rom (end of this month)

After weeks of calling O2 and moaning on and on about the locked old 1.43 rom today I have been told by O2 we WILL finaly have a new rom (i guess 1.72) last day of march!

Finally

We were suppose to have it 2 weeks ago...I wont be holding my breath about this...we will see...

Unbelievable how long it's taken o2 to give people an official upgrade. Thank the lord for xda-devs, eh? HSPL & freedom all the way!

i bet its 1.66 rom o2 are really slacking at the moment....

Any clues where it will be available to download?

Really now so what is this the third or fourth date that we have heard. I will believe it when i see it as they say.
and yes I am pessimistic, especially when it comes to O2 and updates...
Also MidnightDraven it will be on the HTC site or may HTC Pedia, if it gets leaked....

Ahh good. thanks for that.
Lets hope it turns up then.

I doubt 1.72 .. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with them. I understand the reasons, but they don't help at all. And after all this waiting, chances are that they have only been looking at 1.48 and 1.66....... O2 suck.

It's about bloody time too - I just hope they actually keep to their word this time
Has anyone else confirmed this? I'll try give 'em a ring after work later.......£10 says they will tell me a different date!

l3mm said:
It's about bloody time too - I just hope they actually keep to their word this time
Has anyone else confirmed this? I'll try give 'em a ring after work later.......£10 says they will tell me a different date!
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At least they might understand you when you mention "ROM" or "Update" as they thought I wanted a new phone, even after explaining it in an email with links to HTC's ROM updates.

Are O2 usually so bad at releasing ROMs? I have personally never flashed one before, but i've waited, as you all have, ages for an official update.

Yeh they are
got the wrong thread a little...

I must be missing something here but.....who cares? I have an O2 Leo and the only time I would consider using an official O2 rom is if I was returning it for repair like I had to recently.

Pagnell said:
I must be missing something here but.....who cares? I have an O2 Leo and the only time I would consider using an official O2 rom is if I was returning it for repair like I had to recently.
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Well I would like to flash my first ROM, and preferably one I know for sure will work. So I am quietly optimistic about the new ROM and the features it will have on it. Otherwise I will probably sit with the one I have for a bit longer before considering using a cooked ROM.

Kalavere said:
Well I would like to flash my first ROM, and preferably one I know for sure will work. So I am quietly optimistic about the new ROM and the features it will have on it. Otherwise I will probably sit with the one I have for a bit longer before considering using a cooked ROM.
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Install HSPL and flash any rom you want. Providing you follow the instructions there is absolutely no need to use a network rom, none of them can hold a candle to a decent cooked rom. You will probably never see WM 6.5.5 on any official network rom yet there are various cooked roms that offer the opportunity to experience Windows Mobile and capacitive screens working reasonably well together for the first time. Xannytech's Evolution 1.4 which I'm using is just one of them.

Pagnell said:
Install HSPL and flash any rom you want. Providing you follow the instructions there is absolutely no need to use a network rom, none of them can hold a candle to a decent cooked rom. You will probably never see WM 6.5.5 on any official network rom yet there are various cooked roms that offer the opportunity to experience Windows Mobile and capacitive screens working reasonably well together for the first time. Xannytech's Evolution 1.4 which I'm using is just one of them.
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I think you have been the catalyst in my trying a new ROM, I have HSPL installed now and I am going to have a look around for a ROM to suit me.
Oh and by the way, loving the avatar, Bill is a legend!

any more news on if this just mightbe genuine?

Good luck, t-mobile promissed us the same thing by the end of this month and we got given the original ROM (1.43) probably because they thought , nobody will know it's not an update
I thought sod it so flashed hardspl and then the official HTC rom (1.66), gone from rebooting the thing 5+ times a day to once every 3 days or so (which I can live with)

I doubt 1.72 .. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with them.
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They already released 1.72 for German O2.