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Post your user experiences here, what you liked, disliked etc.
I'll start:
Like:
The device feels really solid and well made and has a nice finish
The device is fast, and browsing the web is more comparable to a laptop than a phone (see screenshot). Games look great on it (like Cordy, Dungeon Defenders etc)
I managed to watch iPlayer videos on it via the site in flash, including the live streams - the HD ones don't play at a good framerate though.
Honeycomb is really slick and easy to use
Sound quality is excellent
The built in office suite is great
Gripes:
Absolute fingerprint magnet
Still a few bugs, a handful of FCs, Spanish text in one ASUS tool, Chinese in another!
The bevel when holding it is a bit too wide to make using keyboards like ThumbKeyboard comfortable. With a bit of tweaking it works fine, but its less than ideal.
The weather widget truncates my town name and it looks ugly (Leamington S) an option to tweak the font size would have been nice.
A couple of the default settings provided a less than optimal out-of-box experience, but nothing that can't be fixed by experimentation.
Hate:
Charging cable is ridiculously short and proprietary so you can't replace it! This is my major gripe. When I plug the device in at night to charge on my nightstand I can't use the device in bed - in fact I had to rearrange the stand just to get it long enough to actually let me put the device on top.
Thanks for this. I'm looking forward to picking this up when it launches in Canada. It looks like a really slick device. The price is great. A shame about the bezel, but it's probably something I'll get used to fairly quickly.
I love that all of your issues are either honeycomb related or just tablet related (except the cable, I suppose) everytime I read these good and bad's I recall my Xoom and how I felt the exact same way but I wouldn't consider any of them bad. I kept that screen spotless, even though it was a fingerprint magnet, the FC's and widget issues are normal because HC is new, and when I buy something I always mess around with all of the settings.
I dont think I've read a bad thing about this tablet. There has not been a single dealbreaker!
Thanks for your review As Prof said, I'm also suuuper excited for the Canadian release.
side note: didn't mean for anything I said to sound snappy, I am just overwhelmingly amped for this tablet.
Yeah, the device is great, I suppose my only major problem with this specific device is with the charger - and that will be fixed when the accessories start rolling out. With time greatness can be achieved!
It does seem like the charge/sync cable might be annoyingly short. Why not just use a USB extension though?
bedoig said:
It does seem like the charge/sync cable might be annoyingly short. Why not just use a USB extension though?
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The cable has an extra pin in it which extension cables do not carry. If you try to use one it just doesn't charge...
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The cable has an extra pin in it which extension cables do not carry. If you try to use one it just doesn't charge...
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Oh, that is going to be quite annoying then. Thanks for the info.
icStatic said:
Post your user experiences here, what you liked, disliked etc.
I'll start:
Like:
The device feels really solid and well made and has a nice finish
The device is fast, and browsing the web is more comparable to a laptop than a phone (see screenshot). Games look great on it (like Cordy, Dungeon Defenders etc)
I managed to watch iPlayer videos on it via the site in flash, including the live streams - the HD ones don't play at a good framerate though.
Honeycomb is really slick and easy to use
Sound quality is excellent
The built in office suite is great
Gripes:
Absolute fingerprint magnet
Still a few bugs, a handful of FCs, Spanish text in one ASUS tool, Chinese in another!
The bevel when holding it is a bit too wide to make using keyboards like ThumbKeyboard comfortable. With a bit of tweaking it works fine, but its less than ideal.
The weather widget truncates my town name and it looks ugly (Leamington S) an option to tweak the font size would have been nice.
A couple of the default settings provided a less than optimal out-of-box experience, but nothing that can't be fixed by experimentation.
Hate:
Charging cable is ridiculously short and proprietary so you can't replace it! This is my major gripe. When I plug the device in at night to charge on my nightstand I can't use the device in bed - in fact I had to rearrange the stand just to get it long enough to actually let me put the device on top.
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You're not joking about the speed, it's faster then my dell inspiron 1300 with 1.6ghz and 1gb ram.
Move to Bath, you'll still have that bathing kudos in the title
The lead is short, it won't let me use a usb extention cable either, but i can cure this by buying another extention lead so it's not really a problem.
Will do this when i get keyboard dock.
love
- just the whole Google experience, my phone, desktop PC and tablet feel totally in harmony now. I add a bookmark on my tablet/PC and it's available on the other device. I star a destination on Google maps on the tablet and it's available on my phone when I get in the car
- certain apps optimsed for Honeycomb are awesome, especially Maps, Gmail, Newsr (Google Reader app), I also love some of the widgets, such as Gmail and Pure News.
- in terms of the device itself, find it light, nice colour (copper), excellent battery life, and great that Asus have enabled the micro SD slot. Also appreciate that they have included a screenshot function on the device.
- really like the system of notification, a touch of Android together with a touch of Windows but unobtrusive at the same time.
- overall, like the control I have with this tablet. With the Ipad I was constantly running up against problems as I tried to get pictures/files either on or off the device. With Honeycomb there are so many ways to get your stuff on and off (bluetooth, USB, dropbox, file transfer). I don't mind the steeper learning curve of the OS if it means I decide what I do with my content.
Dislikes
- while I love aspects of the browser, I also find it quite laggy in places. Certain websites seem to bring it to its knees, ironically the worst culprit for me is the homepage of Xda forums! Trying to scroll down that page is an exercise in frustration.
- some of the widgets are a bit flaky (eg Gmail), often failing to refresh and update.
- the tablet Market app is really poor. We don't seem to have the same version as the US, no special section for tablet optimsed apps, no Google books section; I also find that installing new apps can be a bit hit and miss. Sometimes I press 'install and often the process doesn't complete and I have to go back and do it again.
Overall though, the plusses outweigh the minusses and I've got to hand it to Asus for getting this tablet out quickly and at such a reasonable price. I would find it difficult to go back to the Ipad after a taste of what's possible with Honeycomb. Yes, it still is a bit unfinished, a bit buggy in places but it will only get better with updates and it feels like an OS for grown-ups. I know the Ipad is touted as the tablet that young kids and grandmas can pick up and use, but I belong to neither of those groups and I'm willing to put up with some mildly confusing UI elements if it means I have complete control over my content.
Thanks for the reviews guys!, keep em coming.
I am living the experience through you guys
Is it end of april yet?
Can you try this and let me know if it works?
-Try attaching two headphones/earphones in docked mode (1 in dock and 1 in tablet), do they both work simultaneously?
-Is the Mynet application seeing your DLNA device consistently
-Are you able to stream movies (esp. 720p/1080p) off your DLNA device onto your tablet?
-connect to tv via mini HDMI while in docked mode works right?
-pinch and zooming on dock's trackpad works?
-how much memory (not storage) is available to apps? I am reading on certain websites they list 1GB/512MB RAM, is only 512MB available for apps?
Thanks in advance,
KG
kgdg said:
Thanks for the reviews guys!, keep em coming.
I am living the experience through you guys
Is it end of april yet?
Can you try this and let me know if it works?
-Try attaching two headphones/earphones in docked mode (1 in dock and 1 in tablet), do they both work simultaneously?
-Is the Mynet application seeing your DLNA device consistently
-Are you able to stream movies (esp. 720p/1080p) off your DLNA device onto your tablet?
-connect to tv via mini HDMI while in docked mode works right?
-pinch and zooming on dock's trackpad works?
-how much memory (not storage) is available to apps? I am reading on certain websites they list 1GB/512MB RAM, is only 512MB available for apps?
Thanks in advance,
KG
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Unfortunately no one has the dock yet, it seems that Asus are having some supply issues and only the tablet is available to buy at the moment. So, can't really answer most of your questions, sorry.
The only one I can answer is about the apps. You can use all of the internal storage for apps, so in theory you have about 14GB free for apps..so plenty of space
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Unfortunately no one has the dock yet, it seems that Asus are having some supply issues and only the tablet is available to buy at the moment. So, can't really answer most of your questions, sorry.
The only one I can answer is about the apps. You can use all of the internal storage for apps, so in theory you have about 14GB free for apps..so plenty of space
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Right, I keep forgetting the dock isn't out yet...
As for apps, I was asking about memory, not storage..
Some more questions, I read on modaco forums about these issues, did you guys run into these as well:
-It cannot handle an episode of Prison Break in 720p for example, without a lot of stutter and out of sync voice. And when I tried a lower resolution video file, it works but again its not smooth (480p). I tried RockPlayer, mVideoPlayer and QQPlayer (which was the best by far, but still not great). Im really waiting for a decent Video player app to come out, something which will take advantage of the processing power inside these new devices! Hopefully VLC will have it up and running soon smile.gif
-An app will not solve this.
Rockplayer, QQplayer uses the CPU to decode, it will _always_ be slow and jerky on HD content
-The Tegra 2 SOC is capable of playing main profile h.264 at 1080p (with caveats), high profile at 720p.
Froyo running on Tegra2 could handle 1080p in baseline profile under the older harmony drivers, It _seems_ like the Nvidia honeycomb binaries are even less capable and content that plays on my tegra2 Vega now stutters on my transformer. Hopefully this (1080p baseline) will be fixed with a firmware update (The harmony platform has been abandoned by Nvidia, the transformer is based on the newer Ventana platform)
Is the above really true? That kills the whole purpose of a tablet in my mind.
Also, another troubling issue:
-little bit worried about the HDMI out. It appears to only do 720p. Whereas the cheaper Vega did 1080p when playing video. The transformer seems to do 720p by "voiding" the bottom 80 pixels. On the screen they still make up the button bar, it just gets a little taller.
If this is true, it will be the final nail in the coffin, i will wait until Tegra3..
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If this is true, it will be the final nail in the coffin, i will wait until Tegra3..
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Apologize if this is thread-jacking but is there any word on when Tegra3 will be released? At this point the best approximation would probably be in terms of quarters, like Q4 2011. Not sure if I can wait that long.
Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but.......
If the charging cable is that short, and you want to use it while charging in bed.......
What is the problem with using a short extension cord, say a 6 ft..??
I know this isn't optimal, or preferred, for that matter, but that doesn't seem to be THAT big of a deal......a little inconvenient maybe, but not horrible......
Now, I can see where this isn't the best length for being connected to a computer to transfer files, but workable......and from what I am reading, charging from the laptop isn't great to begin with......
Am I under the wrong impression..??
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What is the problem with using a short extension cord, say a 6 ft..??
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I was wondering the same thing myself. As technology progresses, I fear that some folks forget about the simple things--like extending the reach of the AC adapter if one can't extend the reach of the charging cable itself.
Reminds me of a time when I was watching a friend eating cookies and milk. He was eating around the edges of the cookies very meticulously, and I asked him, "Why are you doing that?"
He said, "So that they fit in the glass and I can dip them in the milk."
I thought for a moment and then asked, "Why don't you just break them in half?"
Has anyone noticed that the speaker placement is a bit low on the frame and can be easily covered up with your hands? That is to say if you are gripping the tablet with both hands (tablet in landscape mode) on the bottom do your hands cover the speaker ports/grill? If this is the case, do you find it annoying or a down side?
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Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but.......
If the charging cable is that short, and you want to use it while charging in bed.......
What is the problem with using a short extension cord, say a 6 ft..??
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The main problem is that the charging cable is barely long enough for me to put the device on top of the nightstand and have the extension cord just below out of sight. I could use the extension cord, but I would have to keep moving the extension cord so I don't trip over it etc.
At work I can't even reach the socket from my desk - all the plugs are either behind the monitors or under the desk and the charging cable will reach neither. All it needs is another 60cm or so really and both problems would be solved! What's really irritating is that it's such a simple thing...
While sorting out my keyboard dock I mentioned it to one of the ASUS reps, and my feedback on it has been fed back to the product manager.
Look at it this way, if the only thing I have to gripe about is the charging cable, consider it a good sign.
yoda715 said:
Has anyone noticed that the speaker placement is a bit low on the frame and can be easily covered up with your hands? That is to say if you are gripping the tablet with both hands (tablet in landscape mode) on the bottom do your hands cover the speaker ports/grill? If this is the case, do you find it annoying or a down side?
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Yes you are right, the grilles are exactly where your hands will go, but I don't really think it's a problem. If you grip really tightly around it you lose the high frequency treble a bit, but you'll only get this when you are typing. When you are just holding it I doubt you can tell the difference. And if you do, just flip the device 180 degrees and hold it upside down! (The screen auto rotates)
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Yes you are right, the grilles are exactly where your hands will go, but I don't really think it's a problem. If you grip really tightly around it you lose the high frequency treble a bit, but you'll only get this when you are typing. When you are just holding it I doubt you can tell the difference. And if you do, just flip the device 180 degrees and hold it upside down! (The screen auto rotates)
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True, I realized that the speaker placement may be a problem when I was playing SpeedX on my Xoom, since I play in landscape mode and hold the Xoom at the bottom with both hands.
How long does it take to get it fully charged?
because i tried comparing and this is heavy and screen is not as good as the other 2. Tab is really good. The price though is just off the mark.
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USB port....that was the big reason.
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1. USB without the need to purchase the overpriced dock like the transformer (after all it's just a keyboard with a battery!).
2. Alluminum back - believe me, once you've used a device with alluminum body, plastic feels cheap. I tried them both in the store and it was like trying a SGS and a DHD. One feels light and cheap like a plastic toy, the other - like a real high-end gadget. Also the pattern on the back of the transformer is not my thing - if you have sweaty hands it might help not dropping the tablet but otherwise it's just annoying.
3. Screen difference is not that great compared on full brightness. Surely not enough to compensate for the USB and premium feel.
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...if im not mistaken the a500 uses a little better RAM then the rest. I believe its low power ram that has an edge in performance. I could be off though
I tried 3 different Transformers but couldn't get one without significant light bleed or body build quality issues.
I went for the Iconia as a replacement over the xoom because the larger bezel makes it much easier to hold, and of course the excellent connectivity.
As for the tab 10.1, it wasn't available at the time my 'early adopter' monster screamed 'I NEED A TABLET' in my ear.
I wouldn't change my tablet now, I dont need the keyboard dock from the transformer, and neither it nor the tab has those all important usb ports.
Yes the screen is inferior to the Transformer, but you really have to look hard to tell the difference.
Pretty much the same here
USB port was a big positive for me, I cannot count how many times carrying my tab and a standard USB -> MicroUSB cable in my backpack has saved the day for my cell phone's battery or the battery of friends
Being able to mount a NTFS USB HDD is a *huge* plus for me, I have a 32gb MicroSD in my Iconia and love being able to plug into the external drives of friends to snag a few files from them.
Before purchasing my a500 I went to a local Best Buy and compared it with the Transformer as well as the IPad2, Samsung Galaxy tab and the Asus tab - the a500's screen seemed pretty much the same to me, but that is just my experience.
Had my a500 for a few months now, running the latest Taboonay 3.2 ROM with custom kernel, overclocked to 1.4 - 1.6 depending on useage (also great to be able to switch the CPU to "conservative" mode via SetCPU when battery life is getting low) and I am pretty damn happy with the performance.
My only complaint? The damn screen picks up smudges/fingerprints so easy! I find myself cleaning it quite often.
The Samsung 10.1 tab isn't available in Australia and i wanted a full size USB port and I wanted 3g. The A501 was the only option..
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I chose it over the galaxy because the screens are almost I identical until you get about an inch away from the screen and it does not even have a microsd slot! Its identical to the Ipad and I want funtionality, not looks. Also like the Ipad its expensive for little features.
And for the Asus, its a very nice tablet, but I use USB a lot and I want a Tablet not a netbook. That what makes me mad about reviews and the dock is what always beats the iconia. Once there a keyboard its a net book not a tablet. The dock would be awesome for trips where I could use the extra battery and a stand. But I don't want to carry around a keyboard with me.
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Iconia over the transformer:
1) USB
2) build quality
3) price (it's more expensive than the iconia to start with, and then you add $150 for the keyboard dock??? I paid $35 for a leather portfolio case with integrated keyboard for my iconia, and I love it, I actually think it's a better keyboard than the transformer one, and it doesn't suffer from the "yet another netbook" look that the transformer has)
Iconia over the galaxy tab
1) USB
2) HDMI
3) SD
4) price (you want me to pay MORE for a tablet that does LESS?)
c'mon! it has NO connectivity options and NO expandibility! if I wanted something that ridiculously locked down I'd buy an ipad... ok, maybe not, but I still can't see why anyone would want a device that has no expandable storage and no connectivity options.
As mentioned, the USB port was a very strong deciding factor.
To me, the Acer tab is one of the better all around tabs on the market. I love the portability and asthetics. The Acer looks further from Chinese knock off apple tablets. When people see it, they know it's not an ipad (not that I'm against I pads.) people claim it's one of the heaviest tabets on the market, and that's true in a sense........but it's actually one of the lightest for what comes with it. Sure the Asus is lighter, but add that dock just to gain acesss to a USB port, you have a three pound tablet.
If only the tablet had the ability like the Toshiba thrive to change out batteries would this tablet be supreme in my book. Oh yeah, better update support would be a good thing too.
USB!!! Endless possibilities!
And HDMI and a whooooole lot of other things!
I am VERY happy with the Iconia and have been since day one, I see people bashing it everywhere but the fact is that its one awesome machine for a hell of a good price!
All the same.
USB
Price
Aluminum back
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USB port comes in handy sometimes, but mostly because the transformer wasn't in stock and I needed it for a project that day...
What I don't understand is how all of these "early adaptors" want functionality out of their tablets with USB slots. With Google and apple both moving into cloud storage and wifi file transfer apps isn't USB and micro SD going the way of the dodo?
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
What I don't understand is how all of these "early adaptors" want functionality out of their tablets with USB slots. With Google and apple both moving into cloud storage and wifi file transfer apps isn't USB and micro SD going the way of the dodo?
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For me, I always take my Acer with me when I go out with my telescope at night. The place I set up at is pretty removed from civilization, so no wireless means no cloud storage. I can easily shoot about 2 hours of video which completely fills my cameras internal storage. When it gets full, I just run a USB cable to my tablet, transfer everything over, delete everything off my cam and I'm back in business. Then while my cam continues to shoot more video, I sit down and play Angry Birds.
I dream of the day when I can plug my telescope mount into my tablet and control it through screen swipes. Unless you use Bluetooth I suppose, the USB port would be the only way to do it.
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For me, I always take my Acer with me when I go out with my telescope at night. The place I set up at is pretty removed from civilization, so no wireless means no cloud storage. I can easily shoot about 2 hours of video which completely fills my cameras internal storage. When it gets full, I just run a USB cable to my tablet, transfer everything over
I dream of the day when I can plug my telescope mount into my tablet and control it through screen swipes.
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That's a +1 for me. Think of using the Iconia for control and star guiding
I hate bringing my laptop. Bad battery life and heavy. Weight matters when your telecope assembled weighs 70lbs lol
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For me, I always take my Acer with me when I go out with my telescope at night. The place I set up at is pretty removed from civilization, so no wireless means no cloud storage. I can easily shoot about 2 hours of video which completely fills my cameras internal storage. When it gets full, I just run a USB cable to my tablet, transfer everything over, delete everything off my cam and I'm back in business. Then while my cam continues to shoot more video, I sit down and play Angry Birds.
I dream of the day when I can plug my telescope mount into my tablet and control it through screen swipes. Unless you use Bluetooth I suppose, the USB port would be the only way to do it.
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I am not trying to sound like a mean person here... but I believe your the only person in the world that does this. (Edit- I stand corrected) I personally would just get expanded memory for my camera instead using my tablet as a flash drive.
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For me, I always take my Acer with me when I go out with my telescope at night. The place I set up at is pretty removed from civilization, so no wireless means no cloud storage. I can easily shoot about 2 hours of video which completely fills my cameras internal storage. When it gets full, I just run a USB cable to my tablet, transfer everything over, delete everything off my cam and I'm back in business. Then while my cam continues to shoot more video, I sit down and play Angry Birds.
I dream of the day when I can plug my telescope mount into my tablet and control it through screen swipes. Unless you use Bluetooth I suppose, the USB port would be the only way to do it.
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what video are you taking? besides an usb adaptor from the 10.1 is available. And it doesnt weigh as much.
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I am not trying to sound like a mean person here... but I believe your the only person in the world that does this. I personally would just get expanded memory for my camera instead using my tablet as a flash drive.
I very well could be the only person who does this. But the reason I don't get expanded memory for my camera is that I can't. I took apart a Nikon coolpix camera and turned it into an astronomy only cam. When I did, I lost the ability to expand the memory. Such is life. My point still stands though, a Galaxy Tab or transformer just wouldn't work for me. I used to lug my laptop with me all the time, but the A500 is way more portable. And with the addition of a few apps, I have all my star charts, manuals, etc. right there if I need them.
Beyond my very specialized needs, why wouldn't you choose a tablet that has so many more options connectivity-wise and a much more wallet friendly price tag? The main negative for the Acer is screen quality, but comparing it to the Galaxy tab, its a negligible difference to my eye. Everything else is the same or better. I've never had a hands-on with the Asus, but I'm led to believe that the build quality is questionable on more than a few of them.
Just my opinion, but that is why I chose the Acer, and remain very happy with my decision.
to fenguinpower: I take pictures of planets, galaxies, nebulas, etc. while my telescope tracks the object through the sky. I then take the individual frames and stack them to create a rather detailed picture of whatever I was viewing. It about the only way to get a decent picture of deep space objects without having access to say, the Hubble telescope. While I could get an adapter for the galaxy tab, with the Acer I don't have to.
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I have zero knowledge in camera modification, but how does that render the expandable memory useless?
As far as expandable connectivity is concerned, that was my point about cloud storage. Other than your rare need to use your tablet as a micro SD card most people who buy a wifi tablet will be using it where, you know, they have access to wifi.
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I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
-How is battery?
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
Please help me out. Thanks.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
It works but you may need root for certain things although I don't think a mouse would work as it is a touch device.
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
Love it, far better than any Android tablet at the moment.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
A lot of apps have been improved and look better than before but not all, although I haven't found any apps that look horrendous.
-How is battery?
I find the battery is awesome, also a custom kernel/ROM can have a big impact on it.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
I use the poetic slimline case, there have been some issues with it not fitting properly but mine is fine, not sure about docks/stands
leeznon said:
I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
I use the usb otg cable and a four port usb hub. Keyboard and mouse are just plug and play. Which is the case for all the android devices I've owned. I've been rooted since the moment I bought it so I'm not sure if you need root for thumb drives.
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
I personally love the device. I had a Asus Tf101 before and this is a far better product.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
The apps are improving quite well and even the few non tablet apps that I use don't look horrible. Not sure if you can see the online play store in your location but if you can there is a tablet filter that can give you a better idea of the available apps.
-How is battery?
For the most part I use my at home after work. I find that it can easily last me three days.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
I have the iblason black faux leather case and the brown suede bear motion case off of Amazon. I'm finding now this i prefer the iblason which is about 18.00 on amazon.
Please help me out. Thanks.
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All said, except the case. There are plenty of options, I recommend you the moko.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
Haven`t tried personally yet. My usb OTG is on the way
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
I personally recommend it, based on it`s specs, it`s still the best bang for the buck. But it also greatly depend on your needs from a tablet device.
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
Given the high resolution screen, yes some app do look blurry or pixelated if not optimized for tablet. For me, i can live with it, we will get more and more tablet optimized apps for sure.
-How is battery?
Great battery life although below my expectations. It might be due to the device processing a high resolution panel.
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
unfortunately no stand or dock at the moment from google. but the cases do make it stand. Just get a case that suit your needs.
Thanks for all the answers. Anyone else?
The stock unrooted firmware doesn't mount usb thumb drives when connected with OTG. The "Nexus Media Importer" app from the play store provides a smooth workaround for that, well worth the 3 or 4 USD I paid for it.
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The stock unrooted firmware doesn't mount usb thumb drives when connected with OTG. The "Nexus Media Importer" app from the play store provides a smooth workaround for that, well worth the 3 or 4 USD I paid for it.
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Thanks for the heads up.
If I'm rooted, will work without needing the "Nexus Media Importer" app?
leeznon said:
I'm going to get a Nexus 10 soon but first some questions.
- Does USB OTG work? I want to connect mice, keyboards, USB flash drives, and Xbox 360 controllers. Do all of those work?
- Overall impressions of the device? Recommend it?
- How bad is the app ecosystem? Do phone apps look really ugly on the tablet?
-How is battery?
-Is there a good stand, dock, or case that's recommended?
Please help me out. Thanks.
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You may wish to consider an Asus TF700. For example, I have the integrated keyboard, an USB non-powered hub, a laser printer (hooked to the USB hub), Bluetooth speaker (powered by the hub), multiple USB hard storage devices (for moving large volumes of data such as movies between devices), a microhd 32 GB card (up to 128 GB possible), in addition to a regular SD card. Shortly I will add an USB ethernet adapter for additional speed when using it at my desk. All of this is with the stock configuration and is well integrated into the tablet experience. The TF700 may not be as fast as the Nexus 10- but I have found the speed very good with the optimal mix of apps. My impression is that the TF700 is a more versatile device if you need multiple storage/connectivity options ala a netbook and find the Android OS suitable for your needs.
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leeznon said:
Thanks for the heads up.
If I'm rooted, will work without needing the "Nexus Media Importer" app?
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When rooted, you can use the free StickMount app.
Some custom roms may mount USB sticks for you automatically, but I haven't experimented with this.
Dontvbe worried about software ... There are very inteligent developers outhere that work for this device . eventualy all the software problems will be resolved . be worried about the problematic hardware side and how to be able to return the product more faster process problems free .
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When rooted, you can use the free StickMount app.
Some custom roms may mount USB sticks for you automatically, but I haven't experimented with this.
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I had problems with Stickmount (can't recall what now). I've been using 'USB OTG Helper' which is a great app. As for how phone apps look: it's not that most of them look bad; they're just not optimized to take advantage of the extra screen real estate. But I'm finding more and more of my favorite apps have a separate tablet version, or install a tablet-optimized one if a tablet is detected.
I also recommend the Moko Slim-Fit leather case (Amazon). Very well made.
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ljg600 said:
You may wish to consider an Asus TF700. For example, I have the integrated keyboard, an USB non-powered hub, a laser printer (hooked to the USB hub), Bluetooth speaker (powered by the hub), multiple USB hard storage devices (for moving large volumes of data such as movies between devices), a microhd 32 GB card (up to 128 GB possible), in addition to a regular SD card. Shortly I will add an USB ethernet adapter for additional speed when using it at my desk. All of this is with the stock configuration and is well integrated into the tablet experience. The TF700 may not be as fast as the Nexus 10- but I have found the speed very good with the optimal mix of apps. My impression is that the TF700 is a more versatile device if you need multiple storage/connectivity options ala a netbook and find the Android OS suitable for your needs.
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The reason why I'm not considering the transformer is because it isn't running stock Android. And I'm not sure how the dev community is for it. Plus it's almost a year old and a new ones coming out soon, I don't know if I can wait.
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The reason why I'm not considering the transformer is because it isn't running stock Android. And I'm not sure how the dev community is for it. Plus it's almost a year old and a new ones coming out soon, I don't know if I can wait.
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The Asus Transformer series is comparatively minimalist with regards to Android customization versus other brands- though bloatware is an issue. There is quite a bit of 3rd party developer support. TF Android stock and custom updates have been prompt- though I am encouraged that Asus was cautious with 4.2. Of course, newer models will offer better performance- and where the need is not critical- it might be better to wait. Again, the hybrid market seems to be in rapid transition and the Transformer series is hardly the only option- for example, Windows 8 hybrids from Asus, Lenovo and others. I only made the suggestion because you focused on expandability- not a core strength of the Nexus 10. But the Nexus 10 has a lot of other strengths- though it to will probably have a faster replacement or hardware refresh soon...
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Thanks for the input, but I just ordered the N10.
Sorry for re-opening an old thread, but it seemed relevant to my situation.
Hi guys, finally decided to take the plunge and shell out for a Nexus 10. This will be my first tablet purchase, so naturally I want it to go as smoothly as possible.
Although a lot of what I've read from purchasers here seem to suggest it's anything but a smooth process with Google. I've terrified myself half to death with some of the stories here. I should probably also mention that I've never had to RMA any device before, but I'm almost fully committed to the fact that I'll have to with this, after all I've read about it.
So. What are the main problems are that people have experienced, which required RMAs and are they still present in the newer batches, seeing as it's almost 6mths old now?
I've looked around these forums for the past half week and found what I believe to be a fairly conclusive list and their possible resolutions. Is there anything else beyond this list I should be watching out for?
RMA for sure
- battery issues - less than 6hrs
- faulty usb/hdmi socket
- constant wifi drop
- speakers buzz
- no sound via hdmi
- crap stuck under screen
- loose to touch/clicky camera lens
- light bleeding (only RMA if excessive)
SOFTWARE UPDATE
- constant restarts with stock rom
BEARABLE WITH CASE
- creaky back cover
Also, is it easier to return to Google or Samsung should I need to RMA?
Thanks in advice for any advice guys.
Damn I'm lucky. Not one problem with my nexus 7 well the wife's now that I went and got a 10. And not a problem with my 10. And I picked my 10 up from a guy on craigslist for 375 for a 32gb.
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Thanks for the input, but I just ordered the N10.
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You receive?
Can you tell me the first 3 characters of your serial number please? Trying to see if they are on third batch yet
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You receive?
Can you tell me the first 3 characters of your serial number please? Trying to see if they are on third batch yet
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Well mine just arrived 20 minutes ago. So far none of the issues I've seen around these forums. No creaky back. No creaky camera lens. No crap under the screen. It's on charge at the moment, so I can't check the other things like light bleed etc.
Oh and for reference it's an R32D model if that helps anyone. I'm in the UK too, for anyone questioning if UK is getting new or old stock.
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Well mine just arrived 20 minutes ago. So far none of the issues I've seen around these forums. No creaky back. No creaky camera lens. No crap under the screen. It's on charge at the moment, so I can't check the other things like light bleed etc.
Oh and for reference it's an R32D model if that helps anyone. I'm in the UK too, for anyone questioning if UK is getting new or old stock.
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Thanks for info
Let us know if you have any reboot issues, and if so, check your surface flinger values
I can't believe Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) doesn't have.
-USB 3.0 - but man, am I greatfull we got micro USB!
-Front facing speakers (does anyone no sami logic behind this one)
-Cascade and side by side window mode. (Yes I know the pen window. But is it just me or kinda annoying to bust out the spent everytime- click the button, select pen window mode, draw a square- just to get able to choose what app you want floating.
I really hope a shortcut is created for pen window without spent
-IR Reciever, I know this was never meantion by sammi but would be a pretty sweet additional. To the it blaster
-ROOT!!! Going crazy over here. Lol but at least we will get this. Hopefully sooner than later
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I can't believe Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) doesn't have.
-USB 3.0 - but man, am I greatfull we got micro USB!
-Front facing speakers (does anyone no sami logic behind this one)
-Cascade and side by side window mode. (Yes I know the pen window. But is it just me or kinda annoying to bust out the spent everytime- click the button, select pen window mode, draw a square- just to get able to choose what app you want floating.
I really hope a shortcut is created for pen window without spent
-IR Reciever, I know this was never meantion by sammi but would be a pretty sweet additional. To the it blaster
-ROOT!!! Going crazy over here. Lol but at least we will get this. Hopefully sooner than later
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It has multi window (side by side) long press back button.
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I can't believe Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) doesn't have.
-USB 3.0 - but man, am I greatfull we got micro USB!
-Front facing speakers (does anyone no sami logic behind this one)
-Cascade and side by side window mode. (Yes I know the pen window. But is it just me or kinda annoying to bust out the spent everytime- click the button, select pen window mode, draw a square- just to get able to choose what app you want floating.
I really hope a shortcut is created for pen window without spent
-IR Reciever, I know this was never meantion by sammi but would be a pretty sweet additional. To the it blaster
-ROOT!!! Going crazy over here. Lol but at least we will get this. Hopefully sooner than later
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Are you serious? Multi window is one of the main characteristics of this tablet. And IR is there, with included software.
Sami logic for side speakers was to make bezel smaller.
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Are you serious? Multi window is one of the main characteristics of this tablet. And IR is there, with included software.
Sami logic for side speakers was to make bezel smaller.
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Well, he did specify IR Receiver instead of IR Blaster/Transmitter, so I assume he means to receive IR... dunno why, though.
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Are you serious? Multi window is one of the main characteristics of this tablet. And IR is there, with included software.
Sami logic for side speakers was to make bezel smaller.
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Yes but Multi Window is no where near as functional as on last year's model! Bring in apps from the bottom of the screen on last year's device and scatter them all over the place and even pin one on top!
New and improved you only get 2 apps and no pinning!
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I can't believe Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) doesn't have.
-USB 3.0 - but man, am I greatfull we got micro USB!
-Front facing speakers (does anyone no sami logic behind this one)
-Cascade and side by side window mode. (Yes I know the pen window. But is it just me or kinda annoying to bust out the spent everytime- click the button, select pen window mode, draw a square- just to get able to choose what app you want floating.
I really hope a shortcut is created for pen window without spent
-IR Reciever, I know this was never meantion by sammi but would be a pretty sweet additional. To the it blaster
-ROOT!!! Going crazy over here. Lol but at least we will get this. Hopefully sooner than later
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1 - yeah musb is far better than that damn 30 pin connector
2 - sound is diminished a good bit by the side firing speakers. placing a piece of paper at each side of the tablet boosts it a good bit. i'm sure they did it to make the bezel thinner.
3 - a mini-apps bar at the bottom would be a lot better than having to use the pen every time you want one up.
4- not an issue for me
5 - i'd love root asap. i don't care if i trip the knox.
a few apps should still support floating windows. the built in video player does.
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I can't believe Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) doesn't have.
-USB 3.0 - but man, am I greatfull we got micro USB!
-Front facing speakers (does anyone no sami logic behind this one)
-Cascade and side by side window mode. (Yes I know the pen window. But is it just me or kinda annoying to bust out the spent everytime- click the button, select pen window mode, draw a square- just to get able to choose what app you want floating.
I really hope a shortcut is created for pen window without spent
-IR Reciever, I know this was never meantion by sammi but would be a pretty sweet additional. To the it blaster
-ROOT!!! Going crazy over here. Lol but at least we will get this. Hopefully sooner than later
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1- yeah why would they put usb 3 on the new phone but not on the new tablet. They should have put a full size usb 3.0 connection with separate break away charging port.
2- I agree that eliminating front fire speakers is a let down but the size reduction is a plus.
With the addition of Knox to the new devices you would think that Samsung would have found a way to include backup software. I believe that a good native backup app would eliminate the need for many people to root as backup capabilities are a necessity to the 10 million plus people that have downloaded Titanium backups.
The other stuff is not that much of a big deal to me.
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Yes but Multi Window is no where near as functional as on last year's model! Bring in apps from the bottom of the screen on last year's device and scatter them all over the place and even pin one on top!
New and improved you only get 2 apps and no pinning!
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I meant the multi window that had floating option built in. I no you can do pen window. But I wish the floating option was the same as last model
Notification light
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1- yeah why would they put usb 3 on the new phone but not on the new tablet. They should have put a full size usb 3.0 connection with separate break away charging port.
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you can plug a usb 2.0 micro cable into a usb 3.0 micro port. it'll charge at the same rate but data throughput will be cut to 2.0 speeds.
but i do kinda wish they'd offer a separate option fastcharging ac adapter like they have for the windows tablets.
I missed there is no FFC... That seems nuts, IMO. I thought the lack of a dedicated HDMI out was the big one but trumped by no FFC.
Charging the highest price for non Apple products and not have a FFC seems dope silly. "Same" then as the Nook HD+ that costs 70% less. Sure the Sammy is a lot faster for some 3D games, but the HD+ rocks for 95% of games tested, all emulators, video and comics/reading.
Not having the camera in an odd way nulls the device down to the HD+, since HD+ already has a sweet display.
Looks like I am back to considering the 701 over the Sammy, but the Tegra 4 in the 701 has it's own apparent issues with sleep, heat and throttle problems. Shield and new Toshiba tablets all have the problems.
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I missed there is no FFC... That seems nuts, IMO. I thought the lack of a dedicated HDMI out was the big one but trumped by no FFC.
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If FFC is front facing camera, then you really missed it. This tablet has smart watch and few other motion things based on front camera.
I can see it
USB 3.0 I can see, in today's world speed is a must.
I would add some sort of display output like micro HDMI
Epic fail on my part then. Thought I read in this thread it did not. Weird, but also good. Rather fail and it has one
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I missed there is no FFC... That seems nuts, IMO. I thought the lack of a dedicated HDMI out was the big one but trumped by no FFC.
Charging the highest price for non Apple products and not have a FFC seems dope silly. "Same" then as the Nook HD+ that costs 70% less. Sure the Sammy is a lot faster for some 3D games, but the HD+ rocks for 95% of games tested, all emulators, video and comics/reading.
Not having the camera in an odd way nulls the device down to the HD+, since HD+ already has a sweet display.
Looks like I am back to considering the 701 over the Sammy, but the Tegra 4 in the 701 has it's own apparent issues with sleep, heat and throttle problems. Shield and new Toshiba tablets all have the problems.
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I'm not sure what you mean. The Note 10.1 2014 has a front facing camera.
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we agree
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I meant the multi window that had floating option built in. I no you can do pen window. But I wish the floating option was the same as last model
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Dude, we're saying the same thing!
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I'm not sure what you mean. The Note 10.1 2014 has a front facing camera.
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Somehow the front facing speaker comment got truncated and I took for camera. In this case, I would rather look stupid and be wrong. Still seems priced too high and better suited for 32gb/64gb models range rather than 16gb/32gb.
Then again, my 32gb S4 cost $650, so there you go!
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Somehow the front facing speaker comment got truncated and I took for camera. In this case, I would rather look stupid and be wrong. Still seems priced too high and better suited for 32gb/64gb models range rather than 16gb/32gb.
Then again, my 32gb S4 cost $650, so there you go!
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I'm with you on the cost. I wish it had come in a little cheaper, but I took advantage of the gift card offer from Amazon so I got the 16gb for $500. I really wanted the 32gb version, but I couldn't justify it for $100 more.
-Multi user support
-NFC
-S Beam
-USB 3.0
-Notification light
So much missing that Note 3 has.
APTx suuport?
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-Multi user support
-NFC
-S Beam
-USB 3.0
-Notification light
So much missing that Note 3 has.
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I couldnt find aptx codec anywhere in the specs, thats downgrading even from the original GN 10.1
Hello guys,
I have a dilemma. I have a pretty strong PC, which I use for work and gaming. I also have an e-book reader - for reading long texts.
Until now, it seemed to me that the combination of strong PC and phablet is a good solution. However, a problem arose:
a) I don't have a mobile device to take notes at the university.
b) From time to time I have to come forward with a presentation (powerpoint or prezi) and I have to borrow equipment or use a shared one.
For these reasons I decided to buy a hybrid tablet (because they are now on top) with Windows 8. It should provide comfortable keyboard and a long time battery life (sometimes I have to spend a few hours at the university, not everywhere I have access to electricity). It turns out that this mobile "typewriter" would cost me about 500 euros/$ or more.
500 euros for the possibility of note taking and occasional viewing a presentation - expensive, right?
I'm going to buy a Note 4... and now a question for you. Have you tried to use the phone (or earlier versions / or other models) in the situations I mentioned?
I think some mhl adapter -> VGA + cover and convenient bt keyboard (USB) should be sufficient to accommodate Note 4 to these tasks. It seems that the price of such additives would not be too high - especially when it compares to laptop's price.
I will be very grateful to you for any advice and suggestions.
Thank you!
I guess this is not the answer you wish to read, but...
I'd stick with a regular notebook.
It's an all-in-one solution, it's just one single device to carry.
You'll also have full MS software support to make sure your PowerPoint presentations will work the way intended. All regular Windows software will work, you don't need to struggle with lots of peripheral devices and their various incompatibilities.
Sure there are some makeshift Android solutions for working with Office documents.
But it's nothing more than makeshift. Just a few weeks ago I had to use exactly that combination because my main PC system broke down over New Year, all shops closed.
It's been a HORROR. You'll find yourself swearing and shouting if you try to replace a working Windows system with Android substitutes.
I use several PCs, a small Eee PC for rooting purposes, a Sony Z2 Tablet, a Note 4 and more.
I do blogging on vacations. Guess what I use ? Not the Note. It's too small, I just don't wish to schlepp around masses of peripheral devices. Period.
I'll take the Note as a general purpose device with me, especially for taking photos as it's camera is just great.
But for blogging, I use the 10.1 inch Sony Tablet plus an external Bluetooth keyboard - you just cannot write longer text using the screen keyboard if you're not into Sado/Maso stuff. The tablet is still too small, but a working compromise because I am travelling with just a single backpack for utmost flexibility.
I tried 7 inch tablets, too small. I tried smartphones, far too small. 10 inches are tolerable. But not more.
A combination of an Android tablet and an external keyboard is a makeshift solution, something you can use in an emergency or for a very limited time.
But for your purposes, I would always prefer a "real" solution without messing around with masses of external peripherals which will never work as you wished they would.
@Galuszka
i had note1 and now i have note 4...
you cant use a phone as tablet pc
i strongly recommend you to buy a Windows 8.1 hybrid tablet
cause note 4 has samll screen for creating and writing .
and mhl adapters have lots of problems now like battery darinage on note 4 and ....
a hybrid win 8 tablet has Full mictosoft office and all professional applications of a desktop computer
like many scientific apps and they are not available in android
how can you imagine of creating an presentation file (like microsoft power point or similars ) on note 4 ?!
or a presentation with a note 4 and mhl adapter !
i recommend Surface pro 64Gb for your case ... yes its expensive but it worth it with its power and beauty
Guys,
in most cases I would use Note 4 with a external keyboard (eg. Logitech K400) just for notes taking. There is a lot of protective covers that allows to set the device in landscape mode + Logitech K400 + Note's S-pen (instead of mouse) and I think it would be good solution for classes. Do I really need a tablet pc for notes?
In terms of presentation - generally I do it on my PC. I just wanted to SHOW them via projector on Note 4. On the market you could find mhl adapters (to VGA - used by lot of projectors).
My main device is PC, I just can't take it anywhere because of size.
@Galuszka
dude i know you want to show them not creating them but trust me
with NOTE 4 you CANT do note taking even with keyboard , for 1 or 2 days yes you will do that but you will leave that soon cause of many problems....
and dont forget about very fast battery drainage during peresentation with note 4 + mhl + mhl to vga converter
note 4 battery cant handle that ...
and by the way the choice is yours
so think and choose carefully
and have good luck
I have a surface pro 3 i use as a desktop. i also have some of the same problems you do. When i need to present i use my note 4 with a netgear PTV3000 adapter. I keep the surface pro 3 connected to my monitor (2560x1600 ZR30W). When i want to present i use a VNC viewer on the note 4 to connect to my surface. The note 4 is the exact same resolution so its just like presenting with a bluetooth mouse connected to the surface. I can run full powerpoint and office and switch back to the note 4 for handwriting notes.
I think it depends on your exact needs. I'm still waiting for my Note 4 to arrive, but I currently use my Note 3 with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and an MHL to HDMI adapter. Most new projectors have HDMI inputs, so as long as you're using one of those you should be fine. If you actually need to use VGA, that's a bit tougher.
I replaced my laptop with an Acer Iconia 10" tablet, and then I replaced that tablet with a Note 2, then Note 3, and soon Note 4. With the right accessories, and the right setup, it replaces a laptop pretty well on the go. That said, I still have a desktop at home and at my office, but I don't need to take those anywhere.
Just a quick note on the suggested Microsoft Surface Pro: Better stay away from it.
I had one (a Surface Pro 3) for testing purposes on my desk last week. It's an all-weak PC except the CPU.
1) More than 10 (TEN !) severe display defects (light bleeding).
2) Touchscreen does not recognize fast typing with your fingertips (I made a video if you like to see).
3) One (ONE !!!) single USB port, which I regard as a bad joke as you need additional hardware for connecting a usable mouse and keyboard (the Type Cover is far away from being usable).
4) NO SIM card slot; so a "mobile device" which cannot be used in a mobile way. Next bad joke with a device worth (or NOT worth) 1000 Euros.
I liked the Surface Pro 3 till I got my hands on it, even considered buying one, got misled by that typical "proud owners".
After checking, nothing of my positive attitude towards that piece of Microsoft failware remained. :/
You still could use old smart dock designed for Note 2. It has 3 usb ports (keyboard, mouse, external hd and more), hdmi out and audio out. In order to work it needs to be connected to power source. I believe that ms office for android is available if you subscribe to office 360.
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dont listen to Chieftroll.
An "all-weak" PC does not have a half terabyte of SSD, 8GB of RAM and a core i7. Amazing screen with no light bleeding, touchscreen is decent (with pen!), type cover is almost like a regular keyboard and it has a dock for more USB ports. SIM card slot is unnecessary - it will do wifi and connect to your note 4 hotspot.
i am 100% agree with @zurkx
Surface is amazing !!!!!
i have one 64 gb myself and its great .... without any major problem
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Ah, my personal stalker. Seeks threads I post in, then starts a fight - always losing.
Obviously, you overlooked my "offer" to you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/how-charger-pins-t3002862/page2
NO reaction ? - Come on, wise man, don't be a quitter.
An "all-weak" PC does not have a half terabyte of SSD, 8GB of RAM and a core i7. Amazing screen with no light bleeding
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So here's the next task for you: Take your highly capable Surface, boot it up. While booting, there's a boot screen: All black, with the term "Surface" big and white in the middle.
Take a photo of this boot screen, NO FLASH, place a lighter or a matchbox on the screen right next to the "Surface" logo. This is to make sure you do a real photo instead of fetching a perfect picture from the net. And it must be the boot screen, because brightness is high at that time, so you don't get the idea of disguising the light bleed with a low brightness setting.
Post it.
Then we well see if your "amazing screen with NO LIGHT BLEEDING" is for real.
If you don't post that photo, we all know there's something wrong with your statement.
touchscreen is decent (with pen!)
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With that big, ugly, unpleasant pen. And WITHOUT ? - A bad touchscreen not recognizing fast typing with your fingertips. Try typing using 10 fingers with a pen.
Now say I am wrong - then I'll post the video evidence.
type cover is almost like a regular keyboard and it has a dock for more USB ports.
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It is not. It's a bad, expensive thing made of wrong materials. It's outside is made of a kind of cloth, wobbly, getting extremely dirty in no time. And it's just a cover, it does not protect the sensitive lower side of the tablet.
And there's no alternatives. Eat Microsoft or die.
SIM card slot is unnecessary - it will do wifi and connect to your note 4 hotspot.
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Same logic: Cars are unnecessary; I prefer hitchhiking.
So, my friend - we're waiting for your photo, proving that your Surface has a flawless screen.
Edit, one day later: You still did not figure out how to use PhotoShop for disguising the light bleed ?
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Ah, my personal stalker. Seeks threads I post in, then starts a fight - always losing.
Obviously, you overlooked my "offer" to you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/how-charger-pins-t3002862/page2
NO reaction ? - Come on, wise man, don't be a quitter.
So here's the next task for you: Take your highly capable Surface, boot it up. While booting, there's a boot screen: All black, with the term "Surface" big and white in the middle.
Take a photo of this boot screen, NO FLASH, place a lighter or a matchbox on the screen right next to the "Surface" logo. This is to make sure you do a real photo instead of fetching a perfect picture from the net. And it must be the boot screen, because brightness is high at that time, so you don't get the idea of disguising the light bleed with a low brightness setting.
Post it.
Then we well see if your "amazing screen with NO LIGHT BLEEDING" is for real.
If you don't post that photo, we all know there's something wrong with your statement.
With that big, ugly, unpleasant pen. And WITHOUT ? - A bad touchscreen not recognizing fast typing with your fingertips. Try typing using 10 fingers with a pen.
Now say I am wrong - then I'll post the video evidence.
It is not. It's a bad, expensive thing made of wrong materials. It's outside is made of a kind of cloth, wobbly, getting extremely dirty in no time. And it's just a cover, it does not protect the sensitive lower side of the tablet.
And there's no alternatives. Eat Microsoft or die.
Same logic: Cars are unnecessary; I prefer hitchhiking.
So, my friend - we're waiting for your photo, proving that your Surface has a flawless screen.
Edit, one day later: You still did not figure out how to use PhotoShop for disguising the light bleed ?
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I wouldn't use the Note 4 for anything barring watching youtube lol. It's far too slow. I wouldn't take notes on it or write out anything more than a text or short email.
As for Surface tablets, they're awesome. Maybe not laptop level, but pretty close. Light bleed is a none issue, zero. I have seen top of the range phones, tv's monitors all with light bleed. It's overrated.
I'm sure it's possible if you can get a smart dock (and Samsung should totally release an updated one with MHL 3.0), but the screen size is a bit cramped for taking college/university course notes. You'd probably be scrolling around in OneNote or any other app of your choice all the time.
While I'm not sure if the European eBay prices are anywhere near as good as they are here in the States, you should be able to get an older Tablet PC like an HP 2730p/2740p or Fujitsu T5010/T900 for a pretty low price and have the convenience of both a physical keyboard and on-screen pen input for note-taking. They're not even US$300 here on most listings!