Will a 5.0v @3.0A = 15W Hurt My Battery? Or Will the Phone Throttle It? - Asus ZenFone 3 Zoom Questions & Answers

The Factory charger is 5.0v @2.0A = 10W. I have a Google Nexus 5X Rapid Charger rated for 15W and would like to use it.
Will the phone allow the extra 5W or throttle it down to 10w?
Thanks

georgiapi said:
The Factory charger is 5.0v @2.0A = 10W. I have a Google Nexus 5X Rapid Charger rated for 15W and would like to use it.
Will the phone allow the extra 5W or throttle it down to 10w?
Thanks
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The voltage is what has to match-- the phone will only draw the number of amps that it can from a power supply, so you will be fine. However, it might not fast charge unless the phone decides it "likes" the charger on the other end of it

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[Q] Charger.

Hello.
I lost my Nexus 4's charger, Is it okay for the battery to charge it (for a whole night) with iPhone 6's adapter?
Wassupdog said:
Hello.
I lost my Nexus 4's charger, Is it okay for the battery to charge it (for a whole night) with iPhone 6's adapter?
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If the voltage difference is not high u can charge
slogger001 said:
If the voltage difference is not high u can charge
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Nexus 4's (from Google):
The input voltage range between the wall outlet and this travel adapter is AC 100V– 240V, and the travel adapter’s output voltage is DC 5V, 1.2A.
And I have another charger that says 5V2A, is it too much or can I charge with it?
How can I know what is the voltage of the iPhone's charger?
Thanks .
Wassupdog said:
Nexus 4's (from Google):
The input voltage range between the wall outlet and this travel adapter is AC 100V– 240V, and the travel adapter’s output voltage is DC 5V, 1.2A.
And I have another charger that says 5V2A, is it too much or can I charge with it?
How can I know what is the voltage of the iPhone's charger?
Thanks .
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It's 5V. Anything USB will be 5V. Don't worry about too much amperage. The phone's internal circuitry will limit/regulate how much juice actually reaches the battery. I use a 2A charger on my Nexus 4 all the time.
Planterz said:
It's 5V. Anything USB will be 5V. Don't worry about too much amperage. The phone's internal circuitry will limit/regulate how much juice actually reaches the battery. I use a 2A charger on my Nexus 4 all the time.
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Thanks .
So if I will charger my Nexus with the iPhone charger and it is 2A it won't charger my phone faster?
The phone will allow only 1.2A?
Wassupdog said:
Thanks .
So if I will charger my Nexus with the iPhone charger and it is 2A it won't charger my phone faster?
The phone will allow only 1.2A?
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It might charge faster. I honestly don't know, nor do I know what the max amperage/speed the Nexus 4 charges with. Heck, I don't even know what the stock Nexus 4 charger was, since I got my N4 second-hand. Come to think of it, I should do some tests, just for future reference. I think I only have .7A, 1.8A, and 2A chargers though (the latter 2 being for tablets).

Turbo?

In a review site someone claiming confidently that the G4P does support turbo charging despite no mention of this in specs. Does anyone have the G4P and a turbo charger can do a test?
nigelhealy said:
...despite no mention of this in specs....
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Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Moto G Play works with the 10W rapid charger (charger in-box), which gives you 5 hours of battery life in just 15 minutes of charging.
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Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
carefully said:
Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
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So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
nigelhealy said:
So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
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My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
It does not support quickcharger, that works with 9v and 12v i already tried, but the supplied charger charges at 2.0 A. which is fast.
carefully said:
My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
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I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
nigelhealy said:
I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
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Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
hooverbw said:
Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
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The fact they package with a low spec charger in a $150 box is not a concern. I own dual and quad chargers I carry for phone tablet BT etc.
The question is a specific charger able to charge faster? I looked at the one supplied and it seemed to imply a 5V input then as much Amp as phone can take, which is usually about 1-1.5A til 85%.
Turbo, is I think like QC, it increases the voltage at low battery charge, such a charger would show say 12V or 9V output.
Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
hooverbw said:
Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
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The way I find best is to not use the phone and use a stopwatch and measure at 15m intervals.
It does take days to be ready with a low charge condition.
App I have used is Ampere but I find it unreliable as the act of using the phone means heat throttling down the charging speed, if you don't use the phone then Ampere sleeps and doesn't monitor.
From what I understand, it does support it but you have to buy an additional charger.
It definitely does some kind of fast charging because my Anker Powercore+ 10,050mAh power block charges it incredibly fast. I don't know what other charging methods the Anker does beyond qc2.0 since I have had the Anker less than 12 hours.
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If this behaves like osprey (which I expect - I haven't yet examined the kernel), the hardware doesn't support the Qualcomm high voltage quick charging, but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA. The weak 550 mA charger bundled with the North American variants will not make the most of it, but a 1A charger or better should get full charging performance.
squid2 said:
...but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA...
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So does this mean the 2.0 A bundled chargers are bottlenecked, like they support 2.0 A and the phone supports only till 800 mA...am I thinking correct?
My XT1607 US unlocked retail version came with a 5V 550mA labeled charge plug. I used a cable and power plug from another device that rated at 5.2V and 1.35A and it drew about 1.4A from it. Then I dug out another USB adapter rated 5.3V, 2A . It consumed 1.78A and it was 80% charged at the time. That would make for some much faster charging than the original plug. Wouldn't matter much if you just plug it in overnight to charge.
Anyone confirm if the it supports QC 2.0? Only thing wrong e phone is slow charge from supplied.
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I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
MaanasDwivedi said:
I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
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Logic fail. The supplied charge is feeble like 0.5A so anything like 1A or 2A is better.
That does NOT mean turbo is supported.
When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
brian10161 said:
When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
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Regular USB is 2A 5V 10W.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
Standard USB 2.0 is 500mA
USB 3.0 is 900mA
There is a new subset standard called USB power delivery, it's used for newer devices.
Quick charge 1.0 was 2 amp at 5v.
There's a little more info here. https://www.easyacc.com/media-center/quick-charge-3-0-vs-2-0-vs-1-0/
These phones charging at 2 amps is technically quick charge, whether it's the 1.0 revision or not is really down to licensing and stuff. They don't charge at 2.0 speeds unfortunately. Even though the chipset supports it.

How much mA is reported by Ampere app when charging with OEM charger and cable?

I bought my phone used and never had the original charger.
Can somebody measure the maximum charging current reported by Ampere app when using OEM adapter and cable?
I recently purchased a PD capable 45w power bank and the max I see is 2590 mA, which translates into 10.6W (~=4.1V x 2.6A). (Ampere measures the current drawn on the battery, not the charging circuit)
I wonder if the original 27w charger also charges at the same rate. If so, then I would conclude that it works with less than 50% efficiency.
Am I missing sth?
kolpa06 said:
Can somebody measure the maximum charging current reported by Ampere app when using OEM adapter and cable?
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Using Ampere app:
2450mA charging
+480mA phone consumption
Equals
2930mA (right at the 3A output spec of stock charger)
Stock Brick Spec 5v/3A or 9v/3A
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I've been doing tests over the last couple weeks with an external voltage/amp tester. When using a PD charger it actually is pulling 9V 2A but the phone displays it as 5V 3A. Those are not the exact numbers because it varies as it charges from empty to full but the point is the phone cannot display 9V because it is converted from 9V to 5V inside the phone. I have never got it to reach a full 27 watt charge using many different chargers including stock the most i got was close to 18 watts. I also have 2 essential phones I have been testing and getting the same results.
jdogg4000 said:
I've been doing tests over the last couple weeks with an external voltage/amp tester. When using a PD charger it actually is pulling 9V 2A but the phone displays it as 5V 3A. Those are not the exact numbers because it varies as it charges from empty to full but the point is the phone cannot display 9V because it is converted from 9V to 5V inside the phone. I have never got it to reach a full 27 watt charge using many different chargers including stock the most i got was close to 18 watts. I also have 2 essential phones I have been testing and getting the same results.
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Hey saw your post here, sorry for necro-ing, but my phone also shows 5v 3.41A on a 18W charger. I was worried that something was wrong but it seems that its normal.

Fast charging power banks?

Hey there, i'm, trying to find any power banks compatible with samsung's adaptive fast charging to use with my S9+. Are there any available? If so, are they worth it?
Thanks
I bought this directly from Samsung for $16 and it does fast charge on my S9+ but it is now out of stock: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...-10ah-with-usb-c-cable-silver-eb-p1100csegus/
bads3ctor said:
I bought this directly from Samsung for $16 and it does fast charge on my S9+ but it is now out of stock: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...-10ah-with-usb-c-cable-silver-eb-p1100csegus/
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Shame, that's exactly what I needed. Can't find it anywhere sadly.
Any power bank that offer either Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 or USB Power Delivery through USB Type C should work. The S9/S9+ will draw 1.67A @ 9V over QC and 3A @ 5V over USB-PD via Type C and therefore fast charge at 15W (which is its limit).
These should work, though I've not tried these myself.
Anker PowerCore Speed 20000mAh offers USB-PD but not QC, though the standard USB port offers 2A @ 5V, so while not fast charging it charges at 10W from the standard port (15W from the USB-PD port for the S9+).
Charmast 10400mAh Powr Bank offers both QC3 and USB-PD.
I have an Anker power bank (non-PD), and an Aukey wall charger so can recommend those brands in general terms from my personal experience.
Xiaomi 20,000 power bank supports fast charging as well on S9 plus.
This is available now: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...-10ah-with-usb-c-cable-silver-eb-p1100csegus/
aouni_tahech said:
Xiaomi 20,000 power bank supports fast charging as well on S9 plus.
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I have the same powerbank and it works like a charm.
One note: you can charge the phone using quickcharge from the powerbank but you can also use the phone's charger to quickcharge the powerbank
Incarniac said:
Any power bank that offer either Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 or USB Power Delivery through USB Type C should work. The S9/S9+ will draw 1.67A @ 9V over QC and 3A @ 5V over USB-PD via Type C and therefore fast charge at 15W (which is its limit).
These should work, though I've not tried these myself.
Anker PowerCore Speed 20000mAh offers USB-PD but not QC, though the standard USB port offers 2A @ 5V, so while not fast charging it charges at 10W from the standard port (15W from the USB-PD port for the S9+).
Charmast 10400mAh Powr Bank offers both QC3 and USB-PD.
I have an Anker power bank (non-PD), and an Aukey wall charger so can recommend those brands in general terms from my personal experience.
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This
Can't get Fast Charge to work with Power Banks
I've bought 2 different QC power banks:
AIDEAZ Power Bank 20000mAh Portable Charger
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07GJHNRK9/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_8697Cb90CYK1E
iWALK Wireless Portable Charger 10000mah Power Bank
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07FMVRD6K/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_E897CbKW2P4PD
I also own
Anker Powercore Speed 10000 QC, Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 Portable Charger
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01JIYWUBA/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Q997Cb1HQ367J
NONE of them fast charge my S9+ even though when I use the wall charger it fast charges. I even have a USB power meter to confirm that these power banks are only inputting 5V 1A.
SO FRUSTRATING!
Al3xxxinho said:
I have the same powerbank and it works like a charm.
One note: you can charge the phone using quickcharge from the powerbank but you can also use the phone's charger to quickcharge the powerbank
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And you can simultaneously charge your phone from the powerbank AND charge the powerbank from the phone's charger
pirellip said:
I've bought 2 different QC power banks:
AIDEAZ Power Bank 20000mAh Portable Charger
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07GJHNRK9/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_8697Cb90CYK1E
iWALK Wireless Portable Charger 10000mah Power Bank
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07FMVRD6K/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_E897CbKW2P4PD
I also own
Anker Powercore Speed 10000 QC, Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 Portable Charger
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01JIYWUBA/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Q997Cb1HQ367J
NONE of them fast charge my S9+ even though when I use the wall charger it fast charges. I even have a USB power meter to confirm that these power banks are only inputting 5V 1A.
SO FRUSTRATING!
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Hey that is very weird especially since you say that your dev iui ce fast charges when it is plugged into a wall adapter. I have 2 powerbanks, one Mi Powerbank 2i 10000 mAh and the other is a Samsung Fast Wireless Charger 10000 mAh and both are capable of charging my S9+ at 15W

Aukey USB PD with PPS

Will this charger charge our device st 45w?
http://www.gadgetexplained.com/2018/09/aukey-pa-y12-fast-charging-72w-pps-usb.html?m=1
Machine_Head said:
Will this charger charge our device st 45w?
http://www.gadgetexplained.com/2018/09/aukey-pa-y12-fast-charging-72w-pps-usb.html?m=1
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I got one and it seems to work. Usually original would show about 60 minutes to completely charge where this one charges in 44 minutes.
This is at 48%.
When started I've had phone to 20% and has charged up to 60% within 20 minutes or so. So it seems to be but don't know how to exactly check or likely don't have the tools to see if it is going at 45w or less.
But this has worked for me quite well. As rather have multiple when traveling.
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The variable voltage and current via the Power Delivery port of the AUKEY charging station means voltage and current varies according to the device between 5V 3A, 9V 3A, 12V 3A, 15V 3A and 20V 3A.
No it won't deliver 45w to the Note 10+
DaPoets said:
The variable voltage and current via the Power Delivery port of the AUKEY charging station means voltage and current varies according to the device between 5V 3A, 9V 3A, 12V 3A, 15V 3A and 20V 3A.
No it won't deliver 45w to the Note 10+
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Good to know thanks. It is still quicker than most chargers I've gotten. So I'm good with it as it is more than enough for what I'll likely use and charge. But with this info it will then all depend on others. I'll likely later check the 45w official to see if it is really much if a difference but this works better for me and gives good battery for the charge time than I'm used to.
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DaPoets said:
The variable voltage and current via the Power Delivery port of the AUKEY charging station means voltage and current varies according to the device between 5V 3A, 9V 3A, 12V 3A, 15V 3A and 20V 3A.
No it won't deliver 45w to the Note 10+
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The above statement isn't entirely accurate.
In basic DC electrical circuits the following formula applies:
P = V x I where:
P = Power of the circuit
V = Voltage applied to the circuit
I = Amount of current flowing in the circuit
Following this formula, this power supply can deliver 45 w at the 15 volt and 20 volt levels.
More importantly though is the fact that this power supply is of PPS variant. Meaning that it can listen to and adjust the voltage and current to the device it is charging, provided a specific cable is also used. (I will provide a link below).
So how does this new charging standard for cell phones work?
When the phone is first connected, it checks that the cable and power are capable of PPS type charging. If they aren't, it will charge the older way of just accepting a constant voltage to charge.
If it is the proper "faster" charging PPS type, then it looks at the current battery charge level and then "instructs" the power supply to provide a certain voltage level. The closer the current battery charge is to 0, the higher the voltage it will tell the power supply to deliver. So, if the battery is near 0, it will ask up to 20 volts from the power supply. So, at 20 volts and at a maximum of 3 Amps, that is how this power supply can provide 60 watts. (See above formula). Our phone can only accept 2.25 Amps at 20 volts, hence 45 Watt charging.
So, the closer the battery level was closer to 0, the fast this charger will charge..... for a time.
Once the battery gets closer to a full charge or the battery temperature is too high. Yes they monitor battery temp, this came out of the Note 7 debacle. It will tell the power supply to reduce the voltage, hence reducing the power (wattage) level to the battery and slowing the charging rate. This typically happens between 70-80% of full charge.
Sorry if this was sooo long.
This is the US version of the above power supply.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HJWMYH5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-BgFDbP18G9WV
This is the required cable to go with it.
Anker Powerline II USB C to USB C 2.0 Cable (6ft) USB-IF Certified, Power Delivery PD Charging Cable
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WNXY1R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5DgFDb6V78HJY
Remember all of this just happens when connected to the USB-C port of the charger. The other ports do not support the new charging standard.
Yes it’s too long of a post for this type of forum. We all get it you have some knowledge in electrical theory and its quite notable.
Still, @DaPoets post is accurate in this case because samsung have certain requirements to get a charge to output exactly that unique charging state the phones circuitry will accept. This is used by handshaking betwixt the Emarker chips on the cable and the battery controller in the phone.
Although the charger in question maybe able to output the current as its listed on the charger itself, there still needs to be certain protocols in place that only samsung know to make a charger output that unique voltage.
Of course in time 3rd party chargers will eventually appear but its highly unlikely any 3rd party charger at this point can output that exact spec.
This whole Samsung charger tech has everyone confused and like the following article states they want to sell you there Branded chargers. That's fine, but these style chargers need to be paired with a specific "IF- certified" cable, which has chips in both ends and aids in the handshaking between phone and charger.
So, based on this article, a power supply that utilizes the PD 3.0 standard with PPS ability should fit the bill. Therefore the power supply that the original poster asked about DOES fit that bill, provided it is paired with the correct cable.
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/...le-to-find-a-45w-fast-charger-for-the-note-10
Here is a good Reddit thread on the subject.
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote10/comments/cws50p/
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One more post and I'll let this go.
Here is a review of an Aukey third party 45w charger. He got the same results as the OEM 45w charger.
So, to out this to bed, there are chargers available, but you really have to pay attention to the charging specs.
USB-IF are e marker cables. same thing I said.
there is no hype in what the sammy 45 W can do. there are 3rd party chargers that can output many watts/amperage of power, but if they don't have the right handshake that the sammy battery controller is looking for, the phone wont do 45W at the unique voltage the note 10 is looking for.
lmanlo said:
I got one and it seems to work. Usually original would show about 60 minutes to completely charge where this one charges in 44 minutes.
This is at 48%.
When started I've had phone to 20% and has charged up to 60% within 20 minutes or so. So it seems to be but don't know how to exactly check or likely don't have the tools to see if it is going at 45w or less.
But this has worked for me quite well. As rather have multiple when traveling.
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What cable did you use?
ronjr123 said:
The above statement isn't entirely accurate.
In basic DC electrical circuits the following formula applies:
P = V x I where:
P = Power of the circuit
V = Voltage applied to the circuit
I = Amount of current flowing in the circuit
Following this formula, this power supply can deliver 45 w at the 15 volt and 20 volt levels.
More importantly though is the fact that this power supply is of PPS variant. Meaning that it can listen to and adjust the voltage and current to the device it is charging, provided a specific cable is also used. (I will provide a link below).
So how does this new charging standard for cell phones work?
When the phone is first connected, it checks that the cable and power are capable of PPS type charging. If they aren't, it will charge the older way of just accepting a constant voltage to charge.
If it is the proper "faster" charging PPS type, then it looks at the current battery charge level and then "instructs" the power supply to provide a certain voltage level. The closer the current battery charge is to 0, the higher the voltage it will tell the power supply to deliver. So, if the battery is near 0, it will ask up to 20 volts from the power supply. So, at 20 volts and at a maximum of 3 Amps, that is how this power supply can provide 60 watts. (See above formula). Our phone can only accept 2.25 Amps at 20 volts, hence 45 Watt charging.
So, the closer the battery level was closer to 0, the fast this charger will charge..... for a time.
Once the battery gets closer to a full charge or the battery temperature is too high. Yes they monitor battery temp, this came out of the Note 7 debacle. It will tell the power supply to reduce the voltage, hence reducing the power (wattage) level to the battery and slowing the charging rate. This typically happens between 70-80% of full charge.
Sorry if this was sooo long.
This is the US version of the above power supply.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HJWMYH5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-BgFDbP18G9WV
This is the required cable to go with it.
Anker Powerline II USB C to USB C 2.0 Cable (6ft) USB-IF Certified, Power Delivery PD Charging Cable
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WNXY1R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5DgFDb6V78HJY
Remember all of this just happens when connected to the USB-C port of the charger. The other ports do not support the new charging standard.
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A very good read. Thank you for you and everybody else's input.
Any cable that are e-marked should work, right?
Will get this charger just to satisfy my curiosity. ?
You lost me at P =
ronjr123 said:
The above statement isn't entirely accurate.
In basic DC electrical circuits the following formula applies:
P = V x I where:
P = Power of the circuit
V = Voltage applied to the circuit
I = Amount of current flowing in the circuit
Following this formula, this power supply can deliver 45 w at the 15 volt and 20 volt levels.
More importantly though is the fact that this power supply is of PPS variant. Meaning that it can listen to and adjust the voltage and current to the device it is charging, provided a specific cable is also used. (I will provide a link below).
So how does this new charging standard for cell phones work?
When the phone is first connected, it checks that the cable and power are capable of PPS type charging. If they aren't, it will charge the older way of just accepting a constant voltage to charge.
If it is the proper "faster" charging PPS type, then it looks at the current battery charge level and then "instructs" the power supply to provide a certain voltage level. The closer the current battery charge is to 0, the higher the voltage it will tell the power supply to deliver. So, if the battery is near 0, it will ask up to 20 volts from the power supply. So, at 20 volts and at a maximum of 3 Amps, that is how this power supply can provide 60 watts. (See above formula). Our phone can only accept 2.25 Amps at 20 volts, hence 45 Watt charging.
So, the closer the battery level was closer to 0, the fast this charger will charge..... for a time.
Once the battery gets closer to a full charge or the battery temperature is too high. Yes they monitor battery temp, this came out of the Note 7 debacle. It will tell the power supply to reduce the voltage, hence reducing the power (wattage) level to the battery and slowing the charging rate. This typically happens between 70-80% of full charge.
Sorry if this was sooo long.
This is the US version of the above power supply.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HJWMYH5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-BgFDbP18G9WV
This is the required cable to go with it.
Anker Powerline II USB C to USB C 2.0 Cable (6ft) USB-IF Certified, Power Delivery PD Charging Cable
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WNXY1R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5DgFDb6V78HJY
Remember all of this just happens when connected to the USB-C port of the charger. The other ports do not support the new charging standard.
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Machine_Head said:
A very good read. Thank you for you and everybody else's input.
Any cable that are e-marked should work, right?
Will get this charger just to satisfy my curiosity. ?
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This is the 6.6 ft cable I ordered. I use this only for my charging needs, so didn't I care about video support.
What I did want was an IF-Certified 100w cable.
Works good.
Cable Matters USB-IF Certified USB C to USB C Cable 100W Power Delivery in Black 6.6 Feet (USB 2.0 Speed, No Video Support) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756QGTVQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_J4bGDb9SM15WH
Bumping an old thread...
I see this and the reddit post saying the aukey charger works. But the Amazon listing for the charger specifically says it cannot fast charge the note 10.
I'm confused.
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10V - 4.5A is what the Note 10 plus takes for 45w charging and that one doesn't seem to do that but Samsungs own 45w charger is dropping in price, I got mine for 37 quid a few weeks ago and there's also the Elecjet PowerPie 45 PPS powerbank you can get for between 50 and 60 quid
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELECJET-Po...owerpie&qid=1584195250&sprefix=Elecjet&sr=8-1
https://elecjet.co.uk

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