custom ROM that is ultra ultra minimal... is it possible? - Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers

I am a noob to rooting, and flashing custom roms. However, I'm very computer literate.
I bought the Xperia X compact because it appeared flashing roms would be very possible.
I have a simply idea, I want to make a rom that is so ultra minimal many of you might think I'm crazy.
All I want it a phone with a black screen, one icon of each: phone, contacts, txt, calculator.
that is it. I don't want internet, I don't want GPS.. nothing. I don't want any trace of any company on my phone.
Think of it this way, I want a blank slate, like a new fresh computer, and I want to install the OS of my choice, with only the things I want. I can't seem to find anything like this(it may exist, but my searching of the web returns nothing close) Can someone please help me with this?
Thanks in advance.
Mike

matridium said:
I am a noob to rooting, and flashing custom roms. However, I'm very computer literate.
I bought the Xperia X compact because it appeared flashing roms would be very possible.
I have a simply idea, I want to make a rom that is so ultra minimal many of you might think I'm crazy.
All I want it a phone with a black screen, one icon of each: phone, contacts, txt, calculator.
that is it. I don't want internet, I don't want GPS.. nothing. I don't want any trace of any company on my phone.
Think of it this way, I want a blank slate, like a new fresh computer, and I want to install the OS of my choice, with only the things I want. I can't seem to find anything like this(it may exist, but my searching of the web returns nothing close) Can someone please help me with this?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
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install any OS you want, root, and delete system folders of whatever you don't want. Then, you can end up with a black screen and 4 apps and nothing else. However, there will never be 'no trace of any company' unless you build your own components and design your own os. Even the 4 apps you want are developed and installed by the os maker, and they run how they want tjem to, (including collecting data, etc). Also, removing apps is removing a small part of the system that runs the phone. There is the kernel, system processes, and more that are required to use the phone at all, (or even turn it on), and all of these things are designed to operate a certain way, and contain many traces of various companies. You can't remove those things.
But, if what you want is the appearance of such a thing, you can easily attain that.

levone1 said:
install any OS you want, root, and delete system folders of whatever you don't want. Then, you can end up with a black screen and 4 apps and nothing else. However, there will never be 'no trace of any company' unless you build your own components and design your own os. Even the 4 apps you want are developed and installed by the os maker, and they run how they want tjem to, (including collecting data, etc). Also, removing apps is removing a small part of the system that runs the phone. There is the kernel, system processes, and more that are required to use the phone at all, (or even turn it on), and all of these things are designed to operate a certain way, and contain many traces of various companies. You can't remove those things.
But, if what you want is the appearance of such a thing, you can easily attain that.
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Thanks for the reply,
I guess, what I'm asking, (maybe your answered this) is it possible to install the OS, and not install drivers to run things like WIFI, GPS. I simply have no use for them. I currently turn them off on my X compact. I can get two solid days without charging my phone with just these two things turned off. Second, I use nothing on the phone, but placing calls, occasional TXT, and simple calculations. IMO there's absolutely no reason to have anything else on a phone. so in your reply you say install the OS I want, root it, and delete anything I want. So, since I don't know much about this and I'm still learning, what are the most one can delete from the system and still have a functioning phone? Does Sony publish a list what's on the Mother board, and what drivers run them? If there is it would be a great starting point for me to get an idea of what can absolutely not be deleted.
Thanks again!

matridium said:
Thanks for the reply,
I guess, what I'm asking, (maybe your answered this) is it possible to install the OS, and not install drivers to run things like WIFI, GPS. I simply have no use for them. I currently turn them off on my X compact. I can get two solid days without charging my phone with just these two things turned off. Second, I use nothing on the phone, but placing calls, occasional TXT, and simple calculations. IMO there's absolutely no reason to have anything else on a phone. so in your reply you say install the OS I want, root it, and delete anything I want. So, since I don't know much about this and I'm still learning, what are the most one can delete from the system and still have a functioning phone? Does Sony publish a list what's on the Mother board, and what drivers run them? If there is it would be a great starting point for me to get an idea of what can absolutely not be deleted.
Thanks again!
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May be a list compiled somewhere, but I can't say I know enough about it to give you direction. I think it would definitely be a chore to figure out, since modern roms can have over 100 system apps installed, (between /system/app and /system/priv-app), plus all of the other stuff. As far as Sony publishing info, they have an 'open' program for developers, but it's not entirely open source. You can find all of the sources they do make available on Sony developer site.
Personally, I usually just use the built-in app disabler and disable anything I don't want, and it hides the icon. Some things you can't officially disable, but you can use a third-party app, or delete app folders, but you want to be careful and make a backup. Maybe just move folders to a temp folder somewhere, in recovery file manager, and see if it reboots. Then, if not, you can go back to recovery and put it back...

levone1 said:
May be a list compiled somewhere, but I can't say I know enough about it to give you direction. I think it would definitely be a chore to figure out, since modern roms can have over 100 system apps installed, (between /system/app and /system/priv-app), plus all of the other stuff. As far as Sony publishing info, they have an 'open' program for developers, but it's not entirely open source. You can find all of the sources they do make available on Sony developer site.
Personally, I usually just use the built-in app disabler and disable anything I don't want, and it hides the icon. Some things you can't officially disable, but you can use a third-party app, or delete app folders, but you want to be careful and make a backup. Maybe just move folders to a temp folder somewhere, in recovery file manager, and see if it reboots. Then, if not, you can go back to recovery and put it back...
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I know that Sony has their open environment for developers. I like that they do this, its a good thing. I think there is a forum on their, I might be able to get some answers. I thought that on XDA, someone would actually know what you can and can't delete since it appears to me, making a custom rom would require deleting and removing things or adding things. Someone probably knows... From my perspective, I have found that most things that reference custom ROMs (here on XDA, or YouTube) seem to revolve around, either tricking out a phone, or "I did it! because I can"... "this does not work, I'm going to figure this out" and all of that is very cool. but I have not seen much in regards to hacks that make phones more useful, like a tool instead of the toys they are.
when I find out anything from Sony or on my own about doing what I propose, I will post back here. If anyone has any ideas or resources just let me know.
Thanks!

I think you could probably do better with some classic phone (not smartphone) with requirements like this.

A Sonim XP5 would come closest to fitting your requirements right out of the box. You start hacking on a smartphone too much and you'll end up with a paper weight.

The sonim xp5 looks promising.
I ordered a used from ebay I'm going to give it a try.
I still think phones should be sold with an option to Install anything you want just like computers. In fact the Industry would be even better if they followed what computers did. Allow people to purchase their own Mother boards, enclosures, batteries, and components, and let users build their own phones. just think it would a much better market.
Thanks for the help

got the XP5 but its not what I want either
The XP5 is ok.... If I want to survive a nuclear holocaust! That thing is thick as brick. Its a neat idea, but a little to limited.
OK, so I'm thinking has anyone installed a straight Linux OS on the Compact.
any thoughts?

matridium said:
The XP5 is ok.... If I want to survive a nuclear holocaust! That thing is thick as brick. Its a neat idea, but a little to limited.
OK, so I'm thinking has anyone installed a straight Linux OS on the Compact.
any thoughts?
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yes. Linux deploy works great. I had Ubuntu and Kali running smoothly. Look up a tutorial, but know that there are a few ways to do it. I used boot-from-sdcard method . Basically partition sdcard, using 8gb or so of ext4 for Linux, then open Linux deploy app, and set preferences for environment, then install os, (takes a while and you need a strong internet connection), then use vnc app to connect to the Linux desktop. Almost everything works well, but sound is tricky. I got it partially working with media server app. Also, the file system is set up slightly different than on a Linux computer, so i had a little trouble with apktool... Another nice thing about it is that you can easily mount your android storage to the Linux desktop in terminal, and the Linux os runs basically as an app, so you can just go back and forth on the fly, and transfer files easily.

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Personal warning I'll also include AppsPlanet into those list if I were you.
Any views as to whether installing Norton, MacAfee or similar would have picked these up?
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Thanks for the great post / update!!!
Just wondering how much you are selling your Galaxy S for? Please PM me and let me know.
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In case you have installed them.
Google spikes 21 malicious apps with big download counts from the Market
Google just removed some 21 apps from the Market in the last day from a publisher going by Myournet for doing all sorts of naughty things to your device. Offenses include attempting to root your phone, uploading phone information (including IMEI) to who-knows-where, and -- most egregiously -- adding a backdoor that allows additional code to be pulled down and executed.
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List of his apps (may not be all)
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_developer/myournet_thqw.html
Auzy said:
The source appears to be: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/google-spikes-21-malicious-apps-from-the-market-with-big-downloa/
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And Mashable
http://mashable.com/2011/03/01/android-malware-apps/
You should ALWAYS read the forum before posting
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Any views as to whether installing Norton, MacAfee or similar would have picked these up?
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Any of the well known Antivirus app for android should have picked it up.
I used to think we'll never need an AntiVirus app for Android... well think again.
after reading the article i downloaded all of them to run a full scan and the results are good
I scanned my phone and it's all clean
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Should one of these apps had been installed already (Photo Editor), is there something else I can do ... other than flashing ?
Thx
AvalonGamer said:
Should one of these apps had been installed already (Photo Editor), is there something else I can do ... other than flashing ?
Thx
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you can simply un-install it, it doesn't really do anything to your phone until you run the app
and even if you did, uninstalling it will remove the problem
Flashing the phone is a bit over the top it's enough to do a system wipe if you want to be 100% sure, and then restore all your apps from backup, excluding the fake ones
Waiting for ESET to debut on Android platform...
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Waiting for ESET to debut on Android platform...
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+1
This reminded me to reinstall lookout after fresh flash.
AllGamer said:
you can simply un-install it, it doesn't really do anything to your phone until you run the app
and even if you did, uninstalling it will remove the problem
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This is actually an incomplete answer.
As noted on Android Police, (I'm new so I can't link there) these apps open a backdoor, which can download additional apps that can do *anything*. The original app doesn't do much on its own. But, removing the infected app will leave behind the additional malware introduced through the backdoor.
Is there anyone who knows if these apps actually worked? What I mean is if the games for example were actually games? The reason I ask is that there is a bubble shoot like game installed on a friends phone which works (not sure if it's the one mentioned above).
So would you be able to recognize that malicious app in that way?
Edit: just noticed on the Lookout Blog that they actively send out a patch to detect these apps (if I read it correctly):
http://blog.mylookout.com/2011/03/s...-found-in-official-android-market-droiddream/
So if you have not yet scanned for those apps, do it now ;-)
Thanks for the information!
How to remove and consequences
First i manyally uninstalled the "Advanced Barcode Scanner" of KingMall2010.
Second i scanned my device with Kasparsky and Lookout, both didn't find any threads.
In the end i performed a reset to factory settings and a format of my SD-card.
Can anyone please tell me if this actions are sufficient to completely whipe this malware of my device?
Also i would like to know if this malware actively sent my private data to servers, or that it just opened a backdoor for later use. And if my data is already sent, what are the consequences and which actions should i take to do something about it.
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First i manyally uninstalled the "Advanced Barcode Scanner" of KingMall2010.
Second i scanned my device with Kasparsky and Lookout, both didn't find any threads.
In the end i performed a reset to factory settings and a format of my SD-card.
Can anyone please tell me if this actions are sufficient to completely whipe this malware of my device?
Also i would like to know if this malware actively sent my private data to servers, or that it just opened a backdoor for later use. And if my data is already sent, what are the consequences and which actions should i take to do something about it.
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What you've done so far seems sufficient enough to clear the malware from your phone system. Even if it copied a backup on your SD card (internal & external) if you've wiped both then it should be ok.
In regards to already leaked data, I would immediately change my passwords to gmail, emails, facebook, ebay etc or any other site that you may have used on your phone.
silverstorm said:
What you've done so far seems sufficient enough to clear the malware from your phone system. Even if it copied a backup on your SD card (internal & external) if you've wiped both then it should be ok.
In regards to already leaked data, I would immediately change my passwords to gmail, emails, facebook, ebay etc or any other site that you may have used on your phone.
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Thanks for your quick reaction. It makes me a little more comfortable. Indeed i already changed my password's.
I already called my phone provider, but apparently could not tell me whether the IMSI (international mobile subscription identity) and SIM card serial number are sufficient information to clone my SIM card. This is the information that would be sent by the malware to remote servers.
Therefor after work i go to get a new SIM card. It's better to be safe than sory after all.
I'm still not convinced on running a constant anti-malware app on my phone. Even with a good processor, my cpu cycles are a precious resource to keep my phone running light and fast.
How heavy on system performance is lookout? Does it only activate and scan when new material is installed?
Lookout scans when u download or install any app on your phone, i havent noticed it running unless im installing
Intlstyle said:
Lookout scans when u download or install any app on your phone, i havent noticed it running unless im installing
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yes, it only runs after you install a new app from market
i installed it after reading about the news, before that, i had no reason to worry about the stuff i download from the official android market
Much thanks for the heads up on this issue!
my question is what is the deal with app planet? i have it installed on my phone along with another app mentioned on the list...why would app planet be something to be worried about???
(P.S. im about five minutes away from wipeing my phone spottless clean thx for the Alert!!!!!)

[App/1.5+/Open-source/Root and Non-root] Permanent screen off for the Visual Impaired

Open source app development project: Permanent screen off for the Visual Impaired
Short summary
This is an app development project that turns off the Android screen permanently yet keeps the touchscreen and other features active and functional for the visual impaired.
Introduction & Goals of the project
There are many Android users who are blinded. And to them, they access the app mainly using TalkBack or other Screen Reader app. That also means that the screen is basically useless to them. They don't need to look at the screen yet they need to be able to use touchscreen.
This project is to create an app that will turn the screen completely off (100% off) yet let the user use the phone as normal.
Assuming that the blind takes more time than normal user to perform an action, it dramatically saves the device's battery.
The app must be easy to use and tailored to visual impaired user.
The app automatically runs with the device.
The app must be free and advertisement-free.
Background
I am the developer of the project and I recruit the interest of other developers / users as well. I am the developer of Screen Standby app, which this project is based on.
Device requirements
- Running Android 1.5 (Cupcake) or above
- (Optionally) Rooted for best battery-saving. The app works with non-root device though, only rooted device achieves complete dark
Instruction
1) Download the apk and Install the app
2) Run the app at least once
3) Select Enable app from menu
4) If the system asks for Superuser access, select always remember and allow
5) To disable, select "Disable app" from the menu and restart the device.
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2) This app will permanently switch the device's screen off when it is active. To turns the screen back on, select "Disable app" or uninstall app completely and reboot
3) To uninstall from ADB, go to a shell and type: adb uninstall com.nkahoang.screenoffvisualimpair
Download
Currently the app can be downloaded from attachment section of this post. When it is stable enough, it will be ready to be released on Play Store for free download.
Source code can be downloaded in second post
If you know any Android user who is blinded, let them use the app and report. Any feedback is welcomed
Source code of the app
App's source code can be downloaded from here
Disclaimer: Source code can be used only for non-commercial projects
Great idea. Good luck.
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As the guy above me said. G great idea which actually will help some people. But I don't think that many actually blind people are going to find this app unfortunately... You have to put it on Google play and name it in such way that blind people will find it
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Hello,
While putting it on the Play store is a good idea, there are a few blind folks on XDA like myself who would be happy to give this app some testing beforehand.
Thanks for posting to the eyes-free list, and thanks for developing this app!
correct this is also needs to be on the playstore as screen off or something easy that some of us can find more easily on the playstore . all of us blind people thank you for the app that hav found it but for those who cant can you please turn it into an APK installer or make it easy to install from playstore. as a lot of blind people don't know how to install zip files on android. if you can give me a quick tutorial I can explain to the eyes free list. I am a blind intermediate user of android. I do understand rooting, installing custom roms and gapps and installing apps for rooted devices but some of the rest on the eyes fre are a bit limited here so if you can give them an APK installable file it would be much easier to install rather then a zip package in which they have to figure out what to do with it.
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correct this is also needs to be on the playstore as screen off or something easy that some of us can find more easily on the playstore . all of us blind people thank you for the app that hav found it but for those who cant can you please turn it into an APK installer or make it easy to install from playstore. as a lot of blind people don't know how to install zip files on android. if you can give me a quick tutorial I can explain to the eyes free list. I am a blind intermediate user of android. I do understand rooting, installing custom roms and gapps and installing apps for rooted devices but some of the rest on the eyes fre are a bit limited here so if you can give them an APK installable file it would be much easier to install rather then a zip package in which they have to figure out what to do with it.
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Hi,
I sure will put it on play store once it is stable. The app is currently in development.
The zip file is for the source code of the app. I attached the apk on the very first post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1926833&d=1367394050
Regards
Well done OP.
You are a hero for undertaking this venture. I wish you more success.
I still might have a use for this in my Android devices that I'm using as Network Cameras using the IP Webcam app.
But I will have to test it out to see if it acts the way I need it to (I'm not at home yet, but I will try it.)
On Android 2.x I'm able to have a camera app run fine in the background or with the screen off, but on Android 4.0 and newer, the camera doesn't work completely if you turn off the screen or switch to a different app.
I'm wondering, will this app allow me to have the screen completely off (on a rooted device) but still have the camera use all the processor it needs for perfect Network Camera functionality?
Thanks.
HwyXingFrog said:
I still might have a use for this in my Android devices that I'm using as Network Cameras using the IP Webcam app.
But I will have to test it out to see if it acts the way I need it to (I'm not at home yet, but I will try it.)
On Android 2.x I'm able to have a camera app run fine in the background or with the screen off, but on Android 4.0 and newer, the camera doesn't work completely if you turn off the screen or switch to a different app.
I'm wondering, will this app allow me to have the screen completely off (on a rooted device) but still have the camera use all the processor it needs for perfect Network Camera functionality?
Thanks.
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The camera will continue functioning normally. However, you may want to consider using my other app, Screen Standby # Root, also on XDA to achieve that. This app is tailored specifically to aid the blind in particular.
nkahoang i dont know if you got my email i sent a while back but i was looking for a app like this but be able to close my tablet and plug a keyboard and a mouse into my dock and hook it up to my tv and use my tv as a monitor screens cracked and touchscreen capability are all down the drain, would be great if you could add this feature to this app so i could finally find a use for my tablet again and as always keep up the good work.:good::fingers-crossed:
I have another use that I would like to ask for. Could you integrate Tasker support? I ride a motorcycle and have a bluetooth kit installed on my helmet. I leave my phone in my pocket or a glove box and therefore the screen is of no use to me. Yet if I ask Google Now to navigate somewhere, it opens navigation that keeps the screen on draining battery quickly. This really sucks as I don't have an outlet to plug into while riding. So, if I could setup a profile to activate this app while riding and disable it when I'm done, that could help me out a lot.
hello I was wondering I there has been further development on this app.
Lots of blind users are wondering about eh app development.
Since ther is no info a bit oncerning .
I know tha you develop the screen root stand by primarly but can you also devot e some development ot he app for he blind as well.
thanks for your development efforts
Hello, Now I am using Shades app by the eyes free team at Google. That is an app published to the google play. However after reading the description in the first post I think this app might be capable of saving more of the battery juice. I have just installed it on my SGS2 running CM-10 however if this is already know I would like to ensure this is really more powerfull than the Shades app I was tallking about.
Thanks and greetings
Peter

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6.Select iso towards the bottom and navigate to PhoenixOS iso. Rufus will automatically fill in the rest of the settings. Make sure the USB drive is still selected, though. You may change the partition label if you so desire.
7. Select start.
8. Make a bite to eat.
9. When Rufus has finished reboot into your Bios settings.
10. Select USB drive from boot selection, Legacy or UEFI, and boot it.
11. You will be greeted by the Rufus grub menu. Select "Live CD"
12. Boot up will take some time , you will hang at "Initializing System" for a while. If longer than say 10 minutes. Reboot and start at step one, using a better quality USB this time.
14. Have a look around and enjoy. You will only have about 1Gb of internal storage available, also this session will not save, so I generally don't linger too long.​
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To install to Hard Disk:
This is where it can vary. With every machine being slightly different. There is also the potential to "inadvertently" erase something vital. Make sure you have a "Plan B". ​
1. Prepare a partition to the desired size. format to NTFS "I would say Ext4 but Windows disk manager doesn't have that option". You can use 3rd party software such as Partition Wizard, but it is not necessary. COMMIT THIS DRIVE # TO MEMORY. If you are running Windows only, this will generally be partition 4 or 5 . (Sda4 or Sda5) You can also make a small (300Mb) partition formatted to FAT32 for Grub installation. Windows will NOT let you create a partition of that size natively and you will have to use a third party application.
2. Boot up PhoenixOS USB.
3. Select second option "Installation".
4. Begin Guided installation. VERY IMPORTANT , select the appropriate partition. Here is where formatting Ext4 would help as it will be the only partition formatted as such, plus if unsure you can select do not format. If you would like more than 4Gb of storage, format to Ext4 . If you get it wrong it will format and over-write, possibly your C:\ Partition
5. Have it install Grub for legacy or Grub2 for UEFI, or both. I don't care :laugh:. I could be wrong. I am triple booting with Linux and Windows so Grub2 was already installed. Please post any different findings or opinions as I am limited in my equipment.
6. Choose partition for Grub installation.
7. Install.
8. Reboot, be sure to remove USB when safe.
9. If all went well you will be greeted with Grub menu. you will be able to choose either Windows or PhoenixOS. Enjoy. <----Dual Booting is easy.
10. If you wish to triple boot...It took me a week to figure it out finally had success with Grub2win for Windows or Grub-customizer for Linux. Alas, if you want to triple-boot, you should be able to work it out. Please share any findings as this is a work in progress.​
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Top Tips:
1. The live session does not save.
2. For Playstore: First thing, when booted, open Settings>Accounts>Google and sign in. Then open Playstore, stop the updating of apps with the stop button on update page. Go to Settings scroll to bottom and click on version #. You will get a pop-up "a newer version will be installed". Do not turn off automatic updates. Exit Playstore and wait. You should notice a notification that your apps are updating again. This is good! You should be good to go.
thanks. I found this ISO from you also: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds8nflx1z1r1bt8/PhoenixOS_v-1-0-9.iso?dl=0
downloaded both, which makes me wonder why one is 600MB and the other 1,5GB
EDIT: [virtualbox] https://www.dropbox.com/s/bdqj6h229narxsn/PhoenixOS_v109_Rufus.zip?dl=0 wont boot for me (no bootable device), https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds8nflx1z1r1bt8/PhoenixOS_v-1-0-9.iso?dl=0 does and start sucessfuly
EDIT2: [virtualbox] https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds8nflx1z1r1bt8/PhoenixOS_v-1-0-9.iso?dl=0 installed so smoothly, and runs very nicely after the first test
Hi,
I just installed it and it's literally the same image as the official one, old play store, can't download/install play store apps, no root, chinese bloatware
am I missing something?
VyktorJonas said:
Hi,
I just installed it and it's literally the same image as the official one, old play store, can't download/install play store apps, no root, chinese bloatware
am I missing something?
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Sorry, just found out I'm not getting alerts for my own thread. Which one did you download? The second selection is a stock un-rooted .iso. The official version is contained in an executable. Thought I would through the .iso up in case somebody wanted to tinker with it themselves. Not sure why you are having trouble with the Playstore though. Did you give it time to update itself. Lastly I did not remove any bloat. A majority of the pre-installed apps are user and are easily uninstalled, with a few exceptions. It is a very forgiving OS.
capoeiraES said:
thanks. I found this ISO from you also: Discontinued
downloaded both, which makes me wonder why one is 600MB and the other 1,5GB
EDIT: [virtualbox] Discontinued wont boot for me (no bootable device), https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds8nflx1z1r1bt8/PhoenixOS_v-1-0-9.iso?dl=0 does and start sucessfuly
EDIT2: [virtualbox] Discontinued installed so smoothly, and runs very nicely after the first test
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Which version are you running? I really appreciate the input. If there is something amiss I need to get to the bottom of it,
Also, I am not seeing the difference in download size that you are referring to.
capoeiraES said:
thanks. I found this ISO from you also: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds8nflx1z1r1bt8/PhoenixOS_v-1-0-9.iso?dl=0
downloaded both, which makes me wonder why one is 600MB and the other 1,5GB
EDIT: [virtualbox] https://www.dropbox.com/s/bdqj6h229narxsn/PhoenixOS_v109_Rufus.zip?dl=0 wont boot for me (no bootable device), https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds8nflx1z1r1bt8/PhoenixOS_v-1-0-9.iso?dl=0 does and start sucessfuly
EDIT2: [virtualbox] https://www.dropbox.com/s/ds8nflx1z1r1bt8/PhoenixOS_v-1-0-9.iso?dl=0 installed so smoothly, and runs very nicely after the first test
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VyktorJonas said:
Hi,
I just installed it and it's literally the same image as the official one, old play store, can't download/install play store apps, no root, chinese bloatware
am I missing something?
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Spent the night retesting, on three machines. ASUS Notebook with Intel Processor, HP Notebook with AMD Processor and a old HP Slimline desktop 2010 or something. I only ran in to trouble with the desktop. An incompatability with the mouse drivers, it still booted but I could not do anything. So I guess a newer machine is better. I figured out the difference in the iso size is due to the stock OS uses a system.sfs as opposed to my system.img I think there is a compression difference. In 7Z it shows a packaged size of 600MB. Once installed they are the same size. As far as the bloat, I cannot figure out where the data image is being drawn from. The .iso contains a kernel image, initrd image, ramdisk image and system image. If anybody could shed some light?
Once again I'm very sorry I did not get back sooner. I will check in often now.
Hi,
from what I tested, the Rooted ISO on the OP isn't rooted, but it does have a system.img, which was useful, I had to swap the system.img file with another one I found somewhere else
as to the Play store issue, I managed to fix it by removing and re adding my Google Account in Settings, seems to be a common issue btw
VyktorJonas said:
Hi,
from what I tested, the Rooted ISO (discontinued) on the OP isn't rooted, but it does have a system.img, which was useful, I had to swap the system.img file with another one I found somewhere else
as to the Play store issue, I managed to fix it by removing and re adding my Google Account in Settings, seems to be a common issue btw
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Good. Are you talking about the first download or the second? I admit I did spend more time on the special edition. I also thought I had instructions for the Playstore posted... they can now be found in post #2. Anyway, thanks for getting back, you really should try the SE. :laugh:
bg260 said:
Good. Are you talking about the first download or the second? I admit I did spend more time on the special edition. I also thought I had instructions for the Playstore posted... they can now be found in post #2. Anyway, thanks for getting back, you really should try the SE. :laugh:
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first one
edit:
Is there a fix for the s****y wallpaper quality?
Is there a timeline for updates? If not for the future, for past ones, I'd like to see how often it got updated
VyktorJonas said:
first one
edit:
Is there a fix for the s****y wallpaper quality?
Is there a timeline for updates? If not for the future, for past ones, I'd like to see how often it got updated
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You can adjust the DPI in Settings>Display .don't know if that will help. Plus it doesn't seem to stick through reboots.. Mine are pretty sharp though.
v1.0.9 is current release about a month ago.
www.phoenixos.com/en_US/
www.fosshub.com/Phoenix-OS.html
www.droidx86.gdk.mx/phoenix-os/
The last one is my main stay.
bg260 said:
Which version are you running? I really appreciate the input. If there is something amiss I need to get to the bottom of it,
Also, I am not seeing the difference in download size that you are referring to.
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I'm running "Unrooted Version .iso Only"
click on your first and second link to see the size diference.
btw: Playstore worked out of the box for me, actualy everything worked out of the box until now
EDIT: resolution I can't change. might be a Virtualbox issue
PhoenixOS in my opinion looks much better, although RemixOS feels better, Phoenix needs to give more of a "real Desktop OS" feel to it, they've been updating it every 2 to 4 weeks, which would mean a new update is right around the corner, with every update they seemed to have improved a lot and added plenty of new features, I'm loving it, it's been dual booting with my Ubuntu Gnome for about two weeks now
also, my cursor doesn't show up either, it's just the touch roung thingy, I'm just hoping it fixes by itself eventually
Remix has a better marketing plan. Joining with XDA. That forum is overly full of nonsense. I'm trying my best to spread the word.
@capoeiraES I figured out that one of the moderators at droidx86 mistakenly linked the wrong .iso. I have removed that feature for now. The .iso itself was 1.6g im thinking about zipping it and reposting. Didn't really think there would be interest in the unrooted version.
bg260 said:
@capoeiraES I figured out that one of the moderators at droidx86 mistakenly linked the wrong .iso. I have removed that feature for now. The .iso itself was 1.6g im thinking about zipping it and reposting. Didn't really think there would be interest in the unrooted version.
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I just tried your rooted version again. It wont boot for me in virtualbox. I'll download it again
Might have to convert system.img back to system.sfs. I'll see what can be done.
how do I install a driver for my grafics tablet? can I just download the code and compile it in the terminal?
I guess that's what the rooting is for!?
capoeiraES said:
I just tried your rooted version again. It wont boot for me in virtualbox. I'll download it again
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Got all the System.img converted to System.sfs if you want to try again. Also boots with UEFI now as well. Reposted un-rooted version.
capoeiraES said:
how do I install a driver for my grafics tablet? can I just download the code and compile it in the terminal?
I guess that's what the rooting is for!?
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I haven't needed any additional drivers. Are you dual-booting your tablet?
Anybody care to comment on JMusic?

Root or not?

So guys i know the possibilities of android phones after rooting as my previous phone was Sony Z2...but i am not really sure about rooting s8 :?
If i root it i will miss all updates right?So isn't it better to leave it as it is cause it's just the best smartphone now anyway...
I ran out of reasons to root a long time ago. As Android started getting more polished and allowing more customization I didnt see the need for it. The only thing I'd use it for now is for boot screens and bloat removal.
Root Explorer
Adway
Tasker
Greenify
Titanium Backup
Lucky Patcher
Uninstall System Apps
and others....
These are just some of the reasons to root, if you're looking for full control of you system, then root! If you're not going to customize the system, then don't root.
Don't promote Lucky Patcher, it goes against the non piracy stand of this site.
To the topic, the only reason I rooted in the past was titanium backup, but nowadays most apps I use sync data. I think you can do a lot more today not rooting than in the past but that's just my opinion.
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Agree with the lucky patch part. It can be "educational" but the piracy element is real and what makes it stand out. The real question is involving the new installation method for Magisk that was released on 9/9/2017 and if it's safe to use with a locked bootloader.
Xposed and YouTube adaway is about all I'd need it for. But it's too unstable right now plus the 80% battery thing is just stupid
I'm waiting for people fixing 80% battery issue, + lineageOS. The thing I always do after rooting is installing Adaway, but not these days.
there are adblockers that can be used via adb, system apps can be removed by adb, or can be disabled by package disablers, no real reason except to flash custom ROMs, which can be fun but gets tedious, I've rooted everyone of my previous phones (those that could be rooted), my S8 is the first that I have not and doubt I will.
I'm happy with stock, but since Samsung still don't have an option to skip music tracks with the screen off by long pressing the volume button, I'm forced to root...every...time :/
I just don't get it. With large modern devices, who wants to have to take their phone out to skip tracks. I use Poweramp, and I'm forced to remove my phone, double tap the lock screen, swipe to the player screen and then skip next track. I thought this was 2017...
The apps to do it are fickle at best. Plus, I shouldn't have to use crappy headphones with an inline remote.
waste of precious time,
battery drain, some app not working, can't find apps in goggle store.
security of device,
no samsung pay,
playing cat and mouse with Goggle
I'm not promoting Lucky Patcher, besides your actions with the app is entirely up to you. Lucky Patcher is like Kodi, they're not responsible for the actions end users take. So don't blame the software itself. Also, you can Backup or Restore of Apps and Data, Covert any app into System app and Move Apps to SD Card as well.
Freedomaster said:
So guys i know the possibilities of android phones after rooting as my previous phone was Sony Z2...but i am not really sure about rooting s8 :?
If i root it i will miss all updates right?So isn't it better to leave it as it is cause it's just the best smartphone now anyway...
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Rooting an S8 can cause many problems like :-
1.Warranty Loss
2.Problems with knox supported apps like (Samsung pay,pass,secure folder etc)
3.Loosing confidence on that security element that prompts us to save our valuable credit and debit card details etc.
I mainly root for ad blocking and theming. But nowadays non root alternatives are available for both.
Choice is yours.Good Luck
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h3x3d said:
I'm happy with stock, but since Samsung still don't have an option to skip music tracks with the screen off by long pressing the volume button, I'm forced to root...every...time :/
I just don't get it. With large modern devices, who wants to have to take their phone out to skip tracks. I use Poweramp, and I'm forced to remove my phone, double tap the lock screen, swipe to the player screen and then skip next track. I thought this was 2017...
The apps to do it are fickle at best. Plus, I shouldn't have to use crappy headphones with an inline remote.
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You can use apps like Button Mapper, works without root.
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raafaell said:
Root Explorer
Adway
Tasker
Greenify
Titanium Backup
Lucky Patcher
Uninstall System Apps
and others....
These are just some of the reasons to root, if you're looking for full control of you system, then root! If you're not going to customize the system, then don't root.
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- Root Explorer
Why do users need to browse restricted system files? If it is to delete a file, etc, so they can disable a preinstalled app it can be done with the existing UI without root.
- Tasker
Root features are to provide extra flexibility over what Samsung offers on ringer vibrate, automatic reboot of the phone, making changes to the CPU settings, and automated change of the network to airplane mode. So for most users, there is a question of is there really a need to do more than what Samsung is offering in their own firmware when it comes to their must haves for use of the phone?
- Greenify
From what I gathered, they have a workaround for non-root devices to get the needed permissions using ADB. See their blog post "How to grant permissions required by some features on non-root device?"
- Titanium Backup
Android starting with version 4.0 has a built-in app and data backup and restore feature without the need for root or Titanium Backup. See http://projects.g.ydftech.com/home-1/androidbackup
- Lucky Patcher
Removing ads is the only feature that needs root and may be worth it. But, what are ads? A way to help a developer get paid while giving you free access to their work, do you really want to cut their only hope of revenue?
Modify app permissions, which is no longer needed as the latest versions of android give you the flexibility
Backup and restore apps, see the comment for Titanium Backup
Bypass premium applications license verification, that is basically committing illegal act of stealing something without paying for it, and although I don't endorse it in many cases there are apk's out there that have been "patched", so there is no need to root the phone in order to do this.
- Uninstall System Apps
You can just disable them. The device has many GB of space, are those system apps really taking too much space?
Pawbrotm said:
You can use apps like Button Mapper, works without root.
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I'd recommend using BxActions its a very awesome app and there's no hassle onto using it.
DeX without the official adapter is the main reason I rooted, and it seems to be almost fully working with a patched kernel.
some cool mods may tempt you as well, I installed both the Stereo Sound Mod and custom video/jpeg bitrates.
I just like Rooting because its cool and thats what the cool people do, and so I can act superior (like someone gives a ****).. /s
Seriously though I don't care that much about Rooting because I don't feel its all the necessary. What I would like is an unlocked bootloader so we could make ROMs and flash stuff. I think the idea of Rooting is pretty old school we used to do it before you could do things like disable bloatware. Also since we can use apps like Adhell 2 its just one less reason to root. My biggest reason not to Root is I like Samsung Pay too much.
Does anyone know a safe way to root s8 ? (Without deleting information)
I mean, without opening the boot loader
Thank you for helping me .
Rooted every phone since the OG Droid. So far this is the only phone I haven't felt the need to root. But this is also the closest thing to the perfect phone I have owned.
I haven't really found a reason not to. I still need features that need root to run.
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E-ink GPS topographic’s map

Have you ever dreamed about be able to carry with you a device that will not leave you in the middle of nowhere by running out of battery, depriving you of usefull data at the worst moment, when you needed it ?!
Few years ago i was very convinced of the powerful ability of the E-ink screen’s technologies to save the précious energy of lithium’s batterys. But i was disapointed how theses screens where used for.. Most of the time, they were only used for e-book reader.. and that’s all.
That’s why i’m here today, to share with you my work and research about the modding and hacking of the Nook Simple Touch of Barnes & Nobles.
Actually it's more like a mash up of all the existing work made by the community of XDA and paraglider.
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All is available here : https://ludovic.cool/?p=37
Some help would be cool to improve the GPS interaction with the system, i found this project but don't know how to do that : https://github.com/kconger/android-serial-gps-driver
Reserved.
Fascinating! This is not something I would ever do but I read the whole thing with interest. A great guide. Thanks for sharing yet another surprising adaptation of my favorite device
nmyshkin said:
Fascinating! This is not something I would ever do but I read the whole thing with interest. A great guide. Thanks for sharing yet another surprising adaptation of my favorite device
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Thank's you
One of my last "issue" is to improve the GPS software solution (actually UsbGps4Droid) by a native serial driver like this :
* https://github.com/kostya740/gps-glonass-android-driver
* https://github.com/kconger/android-serial-gps-driver
Help would be appreciate.
@nmyshkin i'm really impress by your work on the NST !
I just follow the process to setup the modded settings.apk and the NTGAppsAttack.
I'm looking to "enable GPS" function in Android. i'm a little bit stuck here.
In Settings.apk > Security > Location is well activated.
But apps with GPS func still claim gps is not enable in settings.
Also Gmaps is not starting, is just showing the root acces allowed pop-in but i think it's another problem.
I'm pretty sure my installation of https://github.com/dipcore/gps-glonass-android-driver is ok so .. i'm a little bit lost.
liptonthe said:
@nmyshkin i'm really impress by your work on the NST !
I just follow the process to setup the modded settings.apk and the NTGAppsAttack.
I'm looking to "enable GPS" function in Android. i'm a little bit stuck here.
In Settings.apk > Security > Location is well activated.
But apps with GPS func still claim gps is not enable in settings.
Also Gmaps is not starting, is just showing the root acces allowed pop-in but i think it's another problem.
I'm pretty sure my installation of https://github.com/dipcore/gps-glonass-android-driver is ok so .. i'm a little bit lost.
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Unfortunately I need to get back to that updating GApps post. It seems at this time that just about everything has died but I did think network location was still working the last time I checked. I looked at my NST running 1.2.1 and GMaps there shows a location "circle" near my house and gives an accuracy rating, so I think it is still functioning.
What you describe about the root access popup sounds like the toggle app I wrote for turning GMaps on and off since it runs in the background a lot otherwise. But you still need the actual Maps app installed for that app to work. Did you by any chance forget to install the actual Maps app?
The Settings app pushes a "1" value into settings.db for network location via gps & wifi, whether they exist or not if it sees the Network Location app. Other apps should see this, but it's hard to know what is happening inside since much of the Android 2.1 OS in the NST has been removed by B&N and the GApps installation is now so shaky. I wish I had better information for you but your detailed knowledge exceeds mine, I'm sure. I'm waiting for my 1.2.2 NST to charge up so I can check Network Location there and see if it is still working.
In the meantime, if you could give me an example of an apk that attempts to use network location and will still run on the NST, I can give it a try to see what happens on my devices.
I wish I had better information for you but your detailed knowledge exceeds mine, I'm sure.
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I would like this was the truth but i'm really quite a noob about deep android system. also i'm very news in the NST world.
Btw, when i try to install "Maps.apk" from the NewGApps.zip :
Code:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>adb install Maps.apk
Maps.apk: 1 file pushed. 0.8 MB/s (7025142 bytes in 8.889s)
pkg: /data/local/tmp/Maps.apk
Failure [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_UNEXPECTED_EXCEPTION]
rm failed for -f, Read-only file system
The Gmaps who not run and just show the pop-in is the "Google_Maps_1.apk"
I have attached the apps i use who require location below.
liptonthe said:
I would like this was the truth but i'm really quite a noob about deep android system. also i'm very news in the NST world.
Btw, when i try to install "Maps.apk" from the NewGApps.zip :
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C:\Program Files (x86)\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>adb install Maps.apk
Maps.apk: 1 file pushed. 0.8 MB/s (7025142 bytes in 8.889s)
pkg: /data/local/tmp/Maps.apk
Failure [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_UNEXPECTED_EXCEPTION]
rm failed for -f, Read-only file system
The Gmaps who not run and just show the pop-in is the "Google_Maps_1.apk"
I have attached the apps i use who require location below.
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I can confirm that Network Location is still working on my 1.2.2 NST. However, Network Location is not the same thing as a GPS radio, and I think that is what the two apps you attached in your previous post are looking for (one says so explicitly). So without the fallback ability to get location data from an NLP app, they will not be able to run. That's the beauty of GMaps. It can use WiFi NLP if that's all that is available. There are no stand-alone NLP apps for Android 2.1, as far as I know. The earliest one I am aware of is for Android 4.x, and that's by Mozilla. There might be others.
As for Maps refusing to install, I am puzzled. I downloaded the zip to see if perhaps the file inside was corrupted, but I had no problems with it. It is supposed to be a system app. Perhaps if you just place it into /system/app, set the permissions as rw-r-r and reboot, it will then work.
Edit: yes, on looking at your adb install I see it rejected the procedure because the system was read-only. You would have to mount the system as r/w before installing. It might be easier just to use a root-enabled file manager and "install" as I described above.
nmyshkin said:
I can confirm that Network Location is still working on my 1.2.2 NST. However, Network Location is not the same thing as a GPS radio, and I think that is what the two apps you attached in your previous post are looking for (one says so explicitly). So without the fallback ability to get location data from an NLP app, they will not be able to run. That's the beauty of GMaps. It can use WiFi NLP if that's all that is available. There are no stand-alone NLP apps for Android 2.1, as far as I know. The earliest one I am aware of is for Android 4.x, and that's by Mozilla. There might be others.
As for Maps refusing to install, I am puzzled. I downloaded the zip to see if perhaps the file inside was corrupted, but I had no problems with it. It is supposed to be a system app. Perhaps if you just place it into /system/app, set the permissions as rw-r-r and reboot, it will then work.
Edit: yes, on looking at your adb install I see it rejected the procedure because the system was read-only. You would have to mount the system as r/w before installing. It might be easier just to use a root-enabled file manager and "install" as I described above.
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Thank's you very much for your time, I'm actually restoring to a previous state i think i have miss something.
I'm disapointed about the Location service who doesn't include GPS radio.
The thing i doesn't underdstand is why i'm not able to ask to te system to exploit the GPS serial driver i setup.
I came from Gnu/Linux, so for me there is the hardware,kernel,driver, the software who exploit the device throught the driver.
I guess the Android provider wrap the location and drivers interaction to the apps.
I should make more research about it..
liptonthe said:
Thank's you very much for your time, I'm actually restoring to a previous state i think i have miss something.
I'm disapointed about the Location service who doesn't include GPS radio.
The thing i doesn't underdstand is why i'm not able to ask to te system to exploit the GPS serial driver i setup.
I came from Gnu/Linux, so for me there is the hardware,kernel,driver, the software who exploit the device throught the driver.
I guess the Android provider wrap the location and drivers interaction to the apps.
I should make more research about it..
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For what it is worth, there is no entry in settings.db for GPS radio on the NST. Whether there is one in other devices, I have not checked yet. If it's just a matter of telling settings.db that the radio hardware which you added is "on" so that apps which inquire will find out, it should be easy enough to add an entry to the database. Then you would need a way to push a "1" or a "0" as is needed.
I'm guessing that to get your implementation of the GPS to work on the device you bypassed this artifact. There is probably also a page in the original NST Settings which has a place for turning on the "cell radio". In fact I know there is, but I don't remember how to get there any longer. I don't know whether that's sufficient or whether there is another entry that is specific to GPS. Either way, there might be more info the system wants before it can respond to queries from apps and tell them there is actually a real piece of hardware which is on, since the original system lacked that.
I was trying to get a GPS app to work on my Glow3.
I got the kernel and ntxconfig modified to use an unused UART.
I didn't use a mock location provider or an actual LocationProvider, I just did the NMEA in the app.
It worked fine, but the stupid pint-sized GPS receiver used one of those stupid toggling ground contacts for power on/off.
You could never get the thing to reliably turn on, so I got bored and the project subsided.
Renate NST said:
I was trying to get a GPS app to work on my Glow3.
I got the kernel and ntxconfig modified to use an unused UART.
I didn't use a mock location provider or an actual LocationProvider, I just did the NMEA in the app.
It worked fine, but the stupid pint-sized GPS receiver used one of those stupid toggling ground contacts for power on/off.
You could never get the thing to reliably turn on, so I got bored and the project subsided.
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I believe i have already read your post, it is that ? : https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/general/gps-nook-t4021145
the toggling is GPIO pin controlled with low / high state ?
Personnaly i use this little circuit about GPIO pin :
Have GPS provider will allowing the use of already well developped map software with all the feature.
That's my only wish actually...
If i have well underdanded to permit this a backport from another device, making a new rom with the serial GPS driver included and the whole signed correctly. i'm right ?!
liptonthe said:
I believe i have already read your post
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Yes, that's the one.
Actually, my GPS came with a board with regulator and pushbutton from SparkFun and it was still balky.
It's been discontinued since then.
I've never done the deep dive into LocationProvider to see how to make it work for real.
It seems that everybody just hacks into mock location providers, which is ugly.
Renate NST said:
Yes, that's the one.
Actually, my GPS came with a board with regulator and pushbutton from SparkFun and it was still balky.
It's been discontinued since then.
I've never done the deep dive into LocationProvider to see how to make it work for real.
It seems that everybody just hacks into mock location providers, which is ugly.
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not really cool, i guess you can find a low cost chinese gps (BN-180) for few dollars, it will work well too.
I'm totally agree with that, mock location is pretty ugly.
To be honest i have not your experience and knowledge on the Nook, but also on android itself i guess..
So i take this occasion to ask you if you can spend a bit of time to see how it look.
This might not be very helpful but since onboard chip inside NST does not support GPS (or to my sadness neither FM radio which would be cool and I presume less power hungry when used with Renate USB sound mod then using online WiFi radio) let's turn the table and use what is already there to our advantage. Aside GPS there is something called WiFi geolocation. Why am I mentioning this? Well if that can be enabled to be used on maps of your choice and work from NST that would be awesome and sufficient for majority of users. True it will not be as helpful on mountain hiking trip there you could use it only as a ordinary map augmented with old trusty brain Mk.1 processor but its better then nothing at all. Someone wanted and managed to create screensaver for this device as transparent screen so that it shows the page where are you stopped reading. That would be good thing to be added in implementing any map solution for NST. Let's be reasonable refresh time on device is to long for it to be used as car navigation device. I have yet to try Fastmode but I would not put my money on that will change something. Even on phones GPS can be sluggish (seen that) and I believe that processing power or the way the data are feed to processor is slowing thing to a crawl. For crawling on the ground that is good enough though. If you use WiFi geolocation and that works fine then you can try to sort issues with GPS. One thing at the time is best approach in my humble opinion. There are several WiFi geolocation services and few of them are open. Still we must have in mind that using WiFi geolocation have raised some privacy issues to the point that one of the largest proponents of its use Mozilla foundation is on a path of abandoning it. Therefore who knows for how long WiFi geolocation will be available. Just my two bits thoughts on this topic.

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