So as the title indicates, for whatever reason the nexus 4 is discharging after reaching 100% on the wireless charger. Now, this would be fine if it continued charging after it drains to a certain battery percent, but sadly that is not the case. When I take my Nexus 4 off of my wireless charger in the morning, I see that it has been 'on battery' for 7+ hours, and the battery is usually between 70-80% which isn't enough for me.
If it helps, here is some information that may be useful:
-My nexus 4 is rooted on 4.2.1
-My wireless charger is called "MoKo Qi Wireless Charger 3-Coil Charging Pad"
-I've tried restarting my phone, but the issue persists
-The wireless charger works at full speed with no issue (apart from the charger turning off when the phone is at 100%, and only removing and putting the phone back on it will turn it on)
Now, I've seen some threads where people say their phone isn't at 100% when they take their phone off, but they mentioned that their phone starts charging when it discharges to a certain percent (say, 95% or something) but sadly mine does not.
Any help is appreciated, thanks in Advance!
-Neutrino
Edit: If it helps with anything, the charger makes a faint 'ticking' sound every half a second ONLY when the phone has reached 100% and continues ticking until I remove the phone. The ticking sound persists even while the phone is draining overnight on the charger. I have also tried to test if letting the phone reach 100% then draining the battery while it is on the charger by leaving the screen on changes anything, but it seems it doesn't matter whether the phone is 'awake' or not.
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I don't understand the problem. Are you reporting fast discharging of your phone after 100% has been reached? Or you are reporting that it doesn't start to charge again when the phone drops from 100% to 95% or whatever?
In the second case I suppose that your Charger works in this way, and nothing can be done.
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I don't understand the problem. Are you reporting fast discharging of your phone after 100% has been reached? Or you are reporting that it doesn't start to charge again when the phone drops from 100% to 95% or whatever?
In the second case I suppose that your Charger works in this way, and nothing can be done.
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It would be the latter, the phone doesn't start to charge again when the phone drops from 100% to like 80-90% overnight. And something CAN (and HAS) been done, I hooked it up to a $10 Woods Model 50001 Indoor 24 hour mechanical timer, and made it turn on/off every 30 minutes during the night/morning. It works perfectly now, my phone is always at 99-100% when I wake up since it doesn't idle for 7+ hours, maximum it ever idles is 30min.
I was just wondering if it was an issue with all chargers, or is it just an issue with my phone... I'll test it with my brother's nexus 5 some time and see if it still happens (without the mechanical timer).
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So lately I've noticed that battery life is strange on my Vogue with android. When I let it charge overnight, I take it off the charger and it instantly falls to about 97%. At about 1 PM the battery hits around 30% so I plug it in.
Here's the weird part: it's only charged for a half hour and it's reached 80% according to the meter. After another half hour it will say 100%, and stops charging. If I take it off the charger, it will instantly drop to around 77%, and lower quickly. If it says it is not charging anymore, but I know it is not full, is it really not charging? Can I just leave it on and expect it to continue charging to the real capacity?
Is this just how it is? or is there anything to be done about this? I've tried completely discharging the battery a few times, but didn't really help at all that I could tell.
Curious about everyone else's experiences
Thanks!
I think I remember reading somewhere that Android reads the temp of the batt. to figure out what % is left....
Try this.... When your batt. is low, take it out and blow on the connectors for a few minutes... See if your % rises.
cbaty08 said:
I think I remember reading somewhere that Android reads the temp of the batt. to figure out what % is left....
Try this.... When your batt. is low, take it out and blow on the connectors for a few minutes... See if your % rises.
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Trying this now... lol
Would I have to do this every time I want to get a full charge? seems strange. Maybe this woudl explain why it charges overnight - longer period of time the battery can cool down, charge up more, cool down, charge
how long should the vogue legitimately take to charge? Seems as tho mine does well within an hour...
berardi said:
how long should the vogue legitimately take to charge? Seems as tho mine does well within an hour...
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3 hours usually.
gigermunit said:
3 hours usually.
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Perhaps my battery has just lost it's capacity - it is around 2 years old
Here's what I posted about battery issues in the thread for my Kaiser build:
Battery issues are due to the driver. It was written months ago and AFAIK hasn't been looked at since... I know it has some bugs, here are the ones I am used to:
Intermittent charging
stopping at certain percentages (like ~70%) and refusing to charge
when refusing to charge also does not detect when plugged into USB/ADB
won't fully charge
reports different battery percentage than WM
sometimes jumps instantly from ~30% to ~4%
reports connected to computer when only connected to wall charger
repeated USB-connected notifications
battery becomes hotter during charging than on WM
I should add also that sometimes when the battery dies in Android it won't charge in WM until I boot the phone in WM and unplug and replug the charger.
If I want a proper charge, I just boot WM and wait ~2 hours. Much simpler than Android.
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Perhaps my battery has just lost it's capacity - it is around 2 years old
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well it could be that the age, my phone of 2 years got replaced after the power button snapped off, got another which i lost which got replaced by my most recent.
polyrhythmic said:
Here's what I posted about battery issues in the thread for my Kaiser build:
Battery issues are due to the driver. It was written months ago and AFAIK hasn't been looked at since... I know it has some bugs, here are the ones I am used to:
Intermittent charging
stopping at certain percentages (like ~70%) and refusing to charge
when refusing to charge also does not detect when plugged into USB/ADB
won't fully charge
reports different battery percentage than WM
sometimes jumps instantly from ~30% to ~4%
reports connected to computer when only connected to wall charger
repeated USB-connected notifications
battery becomes hotter during charging than on WM
I should add also that sometimes when the battery dies in Android it won't charge in WM until I boot the phone in WM and unplug and replug the charger.
If I want a proper charge, I just boot WM and wait ~2 hours. Much simpler than Android.
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Gah, that's too bad.
When I charge overnight, I don't have problems. It's in the middle of the day when it isn't on the charger for too long that I have issues.
Thanks for confirming the weirdness though, at least I won't bother with a new battery (yet)
I've been experiencing problems(like most) with battery life on the Epic, so I found a thread here from the EVO forums about "recalibrating" the battery. It involves steps of fully charging with it on, removing cable, powering down, plugging back in, etc...
Well I've actually come to realize that a blue LED should turn on when the battery is fully charged & the phone should stop charging(duh). Well i've tried for the last two days for the blue LED to come on after countless hours of charging, resetting the phone, etc. I've now had my phone on the charger for 8+ hours & my battery widget states 100% yet it continues to charge!
Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
No, but my wife's battery would drop immediately from 100% to 75% as soon as it was removed from the charger. This occurred no matter what charging regime I tried. I know that the battery may start to discharge after its peak charge has been obtained, and that it is possible to remove the charger and see only 90% on the battery, but 75%?
I returned that battery last night and now today I see that this battery never gets past 98%. I'll give it a day or so to see if the battery life degrades again, in which case I'll know it is the phone and not the battery.
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No, but my wife's battery would drop immediately from 100% to 75% as soon as it was removed from the charger. This occurred no matter what charging regime I tried. I know that the battery may start to discharge after its peak charge has been obtained, and that it is possible to remove the charger and see only 90% on the battery, but 75%?
I returned that battery last night and now today I see that this battery never gets past 98%. I'll give it a day or so to see if the battery life degrades again, in which case I'll know it is the phone and not the battery.
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Are you getting the blue light and what app are you using to tell what percent? There are other thread that say some of the battery apps are off a bit. What kind of battery life are you getting?
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I used a few different apps to tell the battery charge so it wasn't the apps.
I found a fix that not only allows my battery to charge to 100% but also seems to give a better charge. Since doing this my battery shows 100% when fully charged, doesn't drop significantly when I unplug the phone, and so far has caused the battery to go down very slowly. In the three and a half hours since coming off charge the battery has gone down to 93%, while holding up to my wife using it for calls and ShopSavvy. I intend on doing the instructions below every few months.
In the Evo space there are two sets of directions on how to prep your batteries for a good charge. One involves plugging and unplugging your phone while at full charge, and the other involves briefly turning your phone on and off between charges. Because I'm impatient I've amalgamated the two with success.
Fully charge the battery with the phone on (several hours)
Once the charging light is blue, unplug the charger
Turn the phone off, then plug the charger back in, for 30-60 minutes
Unplug the charger, turn the phone on for two minutes, then turn it off.
Plug the charger back in for 30-60 minutes
Then repeat this cycle about ten times: unplug the phone for five seconds, then plug it back in until it says it is at 100% (about two minutes)
For the record, I think this has little to do with the battery and a lot to do with how the phone recognizes the battery as full.
I haven't had any of these problems. My battery charges %100 with blue light and it doesn't drop after I unplug it either. Guess I'm lucky
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I haven't had any of these problems. My battery charges %100 with blue light and it doesn't drop after I unplug it either. Guess I'm lucky
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I don't run a battery app. When the blue light comes on it's done. I get about 11-12hours before I get the low battery warning.
Ha! It really worked. She's at 17% and its been 1 day and 11 hours. Not as good as my Evo.
I guess I'll re-try calibrating the battery again, first time I tried it my battery ended up at 95% instead of the regular 98%, really odd.
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I used a few different apps to tell the battery charge so it wasn't the apps.
I found a fix that not only allows my battery to charge to 100% but also seems to give a better charge. Since doing this my battery shows 100% when fully charged, doesn't drop significantly when I unplug the phone, and so far has caused the battery to go down very slowly. In the three and a half hours since coming off charge the battery has gone down to 93%, while holding up to my wife using it for calls and ShopSavvy. I intend on doing the instructions below every few months.
In the Evo space there are two sets of directions on how to prep your batteries for a good charge. One involves plugging and unplugging your phone while at full charge, and the other involves briefly turning your phone on and off between charges. Because I'm impatient I've amalgamated the two with success.
Fully charge the battery with the phone on (several hours)
Once the charging light is blue, unplug the charger
Turn the phone off, then plug the charger back in, for 30-60 minutes
Unplug the charger, turn the phone on for two minutes, then turn it off.
Plug the charger back in for 30-60 minutes
Then repeat this cycle about ten times: unplug the phone for five seconds, then plug it back in until it says it is at 100% (about two minutes)
For the record, I think this has little to do with the battery and a lot to do with how the phone recognizes the battery as full.
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That seems a little crazy. All you should really need to do is drain it until it won't power on anymore (not even for a second) then charge to 100%.
Still, the epic's sensor just isn't very accurate at the top-end (most aren't), so you're gonna get some strange behavior near the 100%.
All the older WM phones were weird like that too in the 90% range; the sensor just can't detect it very accurately near full charge. The difference was that they showed battery in 10% increments, instead of 1% (unless you use a hacked driver).
too crazy for me.
I think I'm going to just buy some spare batteries for this phone. Immediate unplugging leads to 100% battery.
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I have the same problem, I'm using battery life and juiceplotter and they give me the same %
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Fully charge the battery with the phone on (several hours)
Once the charging light is blue, unplug the charger
Turn the phone off, then plug the charger back in, for 30-60 minutes
Unplug the charger, turn the phone on for two minutes, then turn it off.
Plug the charger back in for 30-60 minutes
Then repeat this cycle about ten times: unplug the phone for five seconds, then plug it back in until it says it is at 100% (about two minutes)
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Thanks for this. I was having trouble getting my device to recognize the top 3% of the battery, and one iteration of your plan above did the trick.
^After I noticed these steps in the Evo thread last week, following them did the trick for 1 iteration.
My phone rarely has stayed long @ 100% after coming off a full charge since then, though.
I left my phone charging overnight via the wall charger. Battery registered at 1% when I started the charge.
When I woke up this morning I had a large low battery icon on the screen and the phone won't turn on. I disconnected the charge, tried charging with another charger but everytime it shows the SAMSUNG logo, then the large low battery icon.
I tried removing the battery, cleaning the charger port terminals, swapped out different USB cords, everything but a hard reset.
No matter what I do the phone will not start up.
Has anyone experienced this before, or possibly no how to resolve it?
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I left my phone charging overnight via the wall charger. Battery registered at 1% when I started the charge.
When I woke up this morning I had a large low battery icon on the screen and the phone won't turn on. I disconnected the charge, tried charging with another charger but everytime it shows the SAMSUNG logo, then the large low battery icon.
I tried removing the battery, cleaning the charger port terminals, swapped out different USB cords, everything but a hard reset.
No matter what I do the phone will not start up.
Has anyone experienced this before, or possibly no how to resolve it?
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Happened to me several times (on both my focuses Rogers and AT&T), and I came to the conclusion it's a bug somewhere in the phone or the battery. I'm not sure exactly where the problem is (software, hardware) but I can tell you how I fixed it.
What happens is, the battery is almost depleted, it actually is 1%. The phone incorrectly reads that thinks it's charged fully and doesn't allow further charging the battery. So, you're not able to charge the battery correctly.
Now, as I previously stated in some other posts, I recommend having a standalone charger (Samsung i9000 ones are compatible are very cheap) as well as a secondary battery. The depleted battery gets charged fine in the standalone charger and when it passes 5% charge, it can be charged fine (again) in the phone.
This doesn't happen often, I believe it happened 5 times in more than 300 charging cycles (2 phones x 150 charges, I have them for over a year) so it's not that common.
I also found that it *may* work if you charge the battery in another phone.
As a general thumb rule, it's important not to leave the battery to completely discharge, and connect the charger/usb when it reaches about 40% (when you can, ofc). Please refer to my post here to see how you can preserve battery life.
Hello, it has been happening to me for last 2 days that when I put the phone on charger, the battery sometimes charges at an extremely slow rate (14% to 23% in 1.5 hrs), and sometimes it even discharges while the charger is connected. I am attaching the battery screen here.
You can see that first it goes down from 100 during morning to evening. This is normal behavior owing to my usage. Then I charged it and up goes the curve with a high angle because I use a good charger. This is also fine. Then I disconnect and heavily use the phone again and then put the phone on charger overnight. This is where the problem starts!
Now you see, first of all the battery starts going up then it suddenly starts dropping while still on charger. I woke up to find 23% battery after charging overnight. I noticed in the screenshot that my phone was constantly waking up all night long, may be this could have been the problem. So I connected it to charger again to see the battery level rising in front of my eyes. But again, after 3 hours I found that my battery is 51% and the curve has started to fall down again, and this time there were not enough wakeups.wakelocks.
I am using a powerful charger. It is made in china but it charges all the phones in my home perfectly. I also tried on another charger (also probably china) with the same results on my phone only.
I am using the stock rom, unrooted (can't root version 182.*.*.*)
Do you have thinks running in the background while you charge? Mines charges a lot faster if I turn off internet, kill background apps.
Also is it overheating while chsrgeing? You get a better charge if the phone stays cool
And third your phone might think the charger is a computer. I say this because mines charges really sloe when I connect it to a computer, like 12% per hour. Try a third charger, diffrent brand and wattage compared to the ones yoive tried. it might help.
yes there are background apps but there hasn't been a change which triggered this. the background have worked fine before.
no overheating issue. in fact, this device always feels cooler.
I've always used this charger, my whole family uses it without any issue but now the problem just started happening to me. and even with me the problem is not constant. I just charged up to 50% without any problem. there is one thing left to try. that is, I should try to restart in safe mode and try charging in that mode. if that works fine then it's definitely an app, otherwise the issue may be bigger.
When my phone is charging it seems to randomly display charging rapidly, charging, or charging slowly. I'm running stock nougat and have tried the original charger and another PD charger with the same results. Is his a known issue or a phone problem?
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When my phone is charging it seems to randomly display charging rapidly, charging, or charging slowly. I'm running stock nougat and have tried the original charger and another PD charger with the same results. Is his a known issue or a phone problem?
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It's possibly just how they charge.
Lithium ion batteries in phones don't generally charge at just one rate from 0-100%. Around 85-90% they slow down. And the last 5% or so may be the slowest.
That's probably what you see
Assuming you're seeing it switch to charging and then slow charging as it gets closer to 100% this sounds normal.
I thought that at first also, but it does it all the way through the charge.
Mine does this fairly often, and the battery percentage never matters. It happens equally as often at 40% as it does at 70% or anywhere in between. Additionally, mine will sometimes go onto the charger and just be stuck at "Charging slowly" and never change. Nothing's changed on the other end, either - it's plugged into the same port it's always plugged into. I seem to have better luck in getting it to charge rapidly when I plug it in with the display powered off, but that could be a bias I haven't eliminated. I have no actual statistical data to back it up.
I've opened a ticket with Essential Support, but haven't gotten a response beyond them asking a few questions and telling me they'd "look into it" (almost a month ago).
I will say that regardless of what the display actually says, the time it takes to charge fully seems to be fairly consistent (for the battery percentage it's at when I plug it in, obviously). But no, you aren't alone in seeing this behaviour. I'm on Oreo, too, not Nougat.
Mine does the same but still charge's from zero to 100 in expected time around 70/80 minutes,it tends to jump to slowly when nearly full .
Have to say battery life I'm getting is nothing short of astounding for a 3040mha battery
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Thanks for the replies, I'll try timing it and seeing how long it takes.
same here with original wall plug and USB cable. Stock 7.1.1.
After reboot it stays on "Charging rapidly". until another day or so.
Oreo seems to fix it.
btw, seems that when I'm charging in Flight Mode it's always stuck at "Slowly Charging" , looking forward to test this on Oreo.
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btw, seems that when I'm charging in Flight Mode it's always stuck at "Slowly Charging" , looking forward to test this on Oreo.
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can anybody confirm that PH-1 is always stuck in Slowly Charging when in Flight Mode? (and if you are Android N or O). I'm wondering if it's my device or general issue.
btw here Essential support answer on that issue:
With the Essential phone the charging speed fluctuates and there are different factors that come in play, including the percentage of the battery at the time. It is to reduce the heat and to prolong the battery life of the device.
If your device is in airplane mode then all major processes including your cell network and GPS are off, therefore the drain on your battery is reduced that would otherwise need to be made up for by the quick charge.
The device should take about an hour an a half to fully charge, is it taking longer than that to fully charge?
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My device in flight mode doesn't charge full in 1 hour.
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LieutenantCommanderData said:
can anybody confirm that PH-1 is always stuck in Slowly Charging when in Flight Mode? (and if you are Android N or O). I'm wondering if it's my device or general issue.
btw here Essential support answer on that issue:
My device in flight mode doesn't charge full in 1 hour.
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Essential is saying 1.5 hours... that is about what it takes for me.