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[Q] [EC09] Debinged issues

so i installed the eco9 dibinged over the ec09 stock deodexed. all fine and dandy except if i try to play a vimeo video from a FB post or a tweet the browser force closes and when updating the service using *22899 soon as it is done the phone process force closes. I have tryed redownloading and installing the ec09 debinged and if i load the ec09 stock deodexed everything works fine. i just hate bing and all the bloat on there. any ideas what to try?

cnorm5623 said:
so i installed the eco9 dibinged over the ec09 stock deodexed. all fine and dandy except if i try to play a vimeo video from a FB post or a tweet the browser force closes and when updating the service using *22899 soon as it is done the phone process force closes. I have tryed redownloading and installing the ec09 debinged and if i load the ec09 stock deodexed everything works fine. i just hate bing and all the bloat on there. any ideas what to try?
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Pay for Root Explorer from the market. Then debloat and debing your phone manually. I can show you how if you buy Root Explorer.

Yea I have root explorer what do I need to do?
Sent from my SCH-I400 using XDA

In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.

Awesome thank you!!! So far so good.
Sent from my SCH-I400 using XDA

samuelhadams said:
In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.
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Would you happen to know the barebone minimum our phone needs apk wise to run? Would like to slim a rom down for my son who has my gf replacement continuum.
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ciscogee said:
Would you happen to know the barebone minimum our phone needs apk wise to run? Would like to slim a rom down for my son who has my gf replacement continuum.
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Your son? Starting him off a little young, ain't ya? It's gonna depend on what you want it to do. If it won't be making calls, then dialer tab, dialer storage, and contacts can all go., no internet, the radio can go. So on and so forth. What you gonna give him the ability to do? Then we can tell ta.
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He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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ciscogee said:
He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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I'll look this evening, if sam doesn't beat me to it
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ciscogee said:
He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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Here is the list. I'm also PM'ing it to you. Figured I'd post it here, for those who want it.
FIRST OFF: TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I'm pretty sure about most of these. There are a couple I could be wrong on. Anyone who see's something that isn't right, please say something.
411 search
411 search
accounts and sync
syncs your facebook, google accounts etc
backup assistant
useless contact backup
badge provider
Not sure. Verify that one
bing search
crapware
blockbuster
crapware
bluetooth
the actual bluetooth app
bt opp
bluetooth storage
btpbap
Not sure, on this one.
bt testmode
Or this one.
booksphone
Google books, I believe
browser
obviuous
buddies now
crapware
calendar prov.
calendar services
call settings
in call settings.
camera
camera software
camera firm
the firmware
car cradle
crapware
clock package
This should be standalone, but make sure it doesn't have any ticker dependencies
datacreate
crapware (I believe)
days
crapware
deskcradle
crapware
dialertab
the phone app
divx
codec app for movies
dlna
allshare crap
dualclock
obvious
dualclock2
ditto
dun
wifi hotspot, I'm pretty sure
email
sammy e'mail
facebook
obvious
gallery3d
gallery app
gmail
obvious
cityid
crapware
myverizon
crapware
scrabble
crapware
tetris
crapware
vcast music
crapware (Getting redundant, isn't it?)
vcast video
crapware
info alarm
crapware
inputevent
I'm pretty sure this has to do with calendar event
flash
obvious
kindle
obvious
latinime
This should be smileys
latinimetut
and the tutorial
livewallpaperpicker
sammy wallpaper chooser
market updater*
delete, only if you don't want newer version of market. If you delete market, I'd
be sure to delete this, as well.
mediahub
sammy media client (all in one music. video)
memo
memo pad
mini
diary crapware
music player
works with media hub, not dependent
music service
same thing
myfiles
sd card file reader
my music launcher
launches my music app delete, if you delete my music standalone
my music standalone
music player
phone
obvious
phoneutil
plays with phone. I'd delete all phone apps or none.
phone crash notifier
obvious
phone err service
not sure.. 911?
picotts
text to speech engine
protips
the initial tutorial, when you first opened your phone
rssprovider
rss feed provider
sasamsung widget (all of them.)
crapware, galore
screen capture
obvious
sdm
I belive this is the firmware update engine. Useless, now
skype
obvious
snsaccount
ticker account app
sns provider
ticker account data service
street
street view for gmaps
swype
obvious
talk
gtalk
tatlivewallpaper (all of them)
obvious
telephony provider
service provider for the actual phone app (transmissions)
thinkdroid
think free office
titckertape
(need to remove the button, too or you'll crash framework)
calculator
obvious
calendar
obvious
twitter
obvious
twwallpaperchooser
the non live wallpaper chooser
vcast tones
crapware (MORE!?)
vcast gravity
the signature for froyo. Not sure about this one. should be fine to delete
videoplayer
obvious
visual vm
crapware
vnav
vznav (crap)
voicerecorder
obvious
voice search
voice to speech engine
vsuite
vcast crap
vvm service
data provider for vvm
weatherprovider
weatherbug data
writeandgo
another 'word processor'
youtube
obvious
z7
works with mail, and something else. Don't recall what.
z7 rel ui
signature app for z7
I'd advise moving these to SDCARD until you are sure there are no issues.
If anyone deletes/moves something, and it causes issues, shoot me a PM, and I'll adjust the list, accordingly.

Txwolf1980 said:
Here is the list. I'm also PM'ing it to you. Figured I'd post it here, for those who want it.
FIRST OFF: TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I'm pretty sure about most of these. There are a couple I could be wrong on. Anyone who see's something that isn't right, please say something.
411 search 411 search
accounts and sync syncs your facebook, google accounts etc
backup assistant useless contact backup
badge provider Not sure. Verify that one
bing search crapware
blockbuster crapware
bluetooth the actual bluetooth app
bt opp bluetooth storage
btpbap Not sure, on this one.
bt testmode Or this one.
booksphone Google books, I believe
browser obviuous
buddies now crapware
calendar prov. calendar services
call settings in call settings.
camera camera software
camera firm the firmware
car cradle crapware
clock package This should be standalone, but make sure it doesn't have any ticker dependencies
datacreate crapware (I believe)
days crapware
deskcradle crapware
dialertab the phone app
divx codec app for movies
dlna allshare crap
dualclock obvious
dualclock2 ditto
dun wifi hotspot, I'm pretty sure
email sammy e'mail
facebook obvious
gallery3d gallery app
gmail obvious
cityid crapware
myverizon crapware
scrabble crapware
tetris crapware
vcast music crapware (Getting redundant, isn't it?)
vcast video crapware
info alarm crapware
inputevent I'm pretty sure this has to do with calendar event
flash obvious
kindle obvious
latinime This should be smileys
latinimetut and the tutorial
livewallpaperpicker sammy wallpaper chooser
market updater* delete, only if you don't want newer version of market. If you delete market, I'd be sure to delete this, as well.
mediahub sammy media client (all in one music. video)
memo memo pad
mini diary crapware
music player works with media hub, not dependent
music service same thing
myfiles sd card file reader
my music launcher launches my music app delete, if you delete my music standalone
my music standalone music player
phone obvious
phoneutil plays with phone. I'd delete all phone apps or none.
phone crash notifier obvious
phone err service not sure.. 911?
picotts text to speech engine
protips the initial tutorial, when you first opened your phone
rssprovider rss feed provider
sasamsung widget (all of them.) crapware, galore
screen capture obvious
sdm I belive this is the firmware update engine. Useless, now
skype obvious
snsaccount ticker account app
sns provider ticker account data service
street street view for gmaps
swype obvious
talk gtalk
tatlivewallpaper (all of them) obvious
telephony provider service provider for the actual phone app (transmissions)
thinkdroid think free office
titckertape (need to remove the button, too or you'll crash framework)
calculator obvious
calendar obvious
twitter obvious
twwallpaperchooser the non live wallpaper chooser
vcast tones crapware (MORE!?)
vcast gravity the signature for froyo. Not sure about this one. should be fine to delete
videoplayer obvious
visual vm crapware
vnav vznav (crap)
voicerecorder obvious
voice search voice to speech engine
vsuite vcast crap
vvm service data provider for vvm
weatherprovider weatherbug data
writeandgo another 'word processor'
youtube obvious
z7 works with mail, and something else. Don't recall what.
z7 rel ui signature app for z7
I'd advise moving these to SDCARD until you are sure there are no issues.
If anyone deletes/moves something, and it causes issues, shoot me a PM, and I'll adjust the list, accordingly.
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Your the man tx
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ciscogee said:
Your the man tx
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Thank you, sir. I don't know why the forum put all of the text together, even though I left spaces between the app name and description, but i edited it for clarity, if it'll make it easier to decipher.

Txwolf1980 said:
Thank you, sir. I don't know why the forum put all of the text together, even though I left spaces between the app name and description, but i edited it for clarity, if it'll make it easier to decipher.
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And I was wondering a way to thank u more than once for that post
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samuelhadams said:
In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.
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I've tried to do this, and everytime I get an error message telling me I can't move or delete because the file is read only.

sgtwebb1 said:
I've tried to do this, and everytime I get an error message telling me I can't move or delete because the file is read only.
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Did you change to r/w in root explorer, it defaults to r/o which won't let you make changes.
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Wouldn't using Titanium Backup to uninstall the apps accomplish the same thing as using Root Explorer? Plus no FC's!

DJMaj07 said:
Wouldn't using Titanium Backup to uninstall the apps accomplish the same thing as using Root Explorer? Plus no FC's!
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It's a matter of preference. Both will do fine.

Txwolf1980 said:
It's a matter of preference. Both will do fine.
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I've never understood why people pay for Root Explorer. There's so many great free options to do the same tasks.

DJMaj07 said:
I've never understood why people pay for Root Explorer. There's so many great free options to do the same tasks.
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I like the ui better. But, to be honest, I've switched to rom toolbox. It does it all.
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OK, I removed a boatload of bloatware using Root Explorer.
Still have a couple issues;
Even though I removed the .apk and corresponding .odex files, restarted phone, I still have these in apps, and all work when opened;
Facebook
IM
Verizon video
VCast tones
And, even though the Bing icon is out of apps, it still opens Bing Search with a long press on the search icon on phone.
Any thoughts on how to get rid of these?
I've went all thru Root explorer and can't find these files anywhere, but they're still on the phone.
Thanks

This is what I did.

I got my SGT2_7 P3113UEALD3 a few days ago and used it stock no root no flashing other ROM on it just to see how it performs. It was a bit slow. Then I rooted installed TiBu and started freezing apps didn't delete any and now it runs fast and smooth. These are the apps I froze.
AccuWeather
Amazon Kindle
Aurora 2.1.1
Bluetooth Test 1.0
Bubbles 1.0
Camera 1.5 I installed Camera ICS 1.1.1a
CharOn 1.8.3
Choco EUKor 1.0
com.android.smspush 4.0.3
com.samsung.app.playreadyui 4.0.3
CSC 1.0 (maybe I shouldn't have done this one cause don't know what exactly it does but so far I had no problems so I'll leave it frozen)
Digital clock 1.0
DSMForwarding 1.0
DSMLawmo 1.0
DttSupport 1.0
Dual clock 1.0
Factory Mode 1.0 (don't know what the last five do but no problems yet)
Factory Test 1.0
Game Hub 2.0 (don't play games)
Google Play Books 2.5.83
Google Play Movies & TV 2.0.9c ( I got Netflix )
Google Play Music 4.1.513
Google Search 1.4.1 (use the browser)
Google Text-to-Speach Engine
Google+
Helv Neue S 1.0 ( ? )
Bookmarks internet ( I use Dolphin HD )
Key Chain ( ? )
Kobo 2.7.816
Market Feedback Agent
Media Hub 1.6.0
Mobile print 1.6.0
Mobile tracker 1.0
Music Hub
MusicFX ( I installed Volume+ )
OMACP v3_1203_2_1
Phase beam 1.0
PhoneUtil 1.0.0
Photo wall
PickupTutorial
PopupuiReceiver
PressReader 3.6.0314 ( I use other )
Program monitor 1.0
Readers Hub
Samsung account
Samsung apps
Samsung keyboard ( I use Swype )
Samsung push service
Samsung TTS
SamsungAppsUNA2
Screen capture
SecLauncher ( I use Apex or ADW )
SecWalpaperChooser ( I use -wp clock- )
Setup Wizard
SNS
Sound Recorder
SurfSetProp
SysScope 2.1.0
Talkback 3.0.2
TwDFSApp
Voice Search
World clock
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YouTube ( I use Dolphin )
Zinio
Am also thinking of freezing -VpnDialogs- but will wait, not shure what it does. Also I welcome all comments and explanation on some of the apps and what they do. I'm a noob at this just figured I try something and see what happens. Also as I already mentioned so far so good everything is running OK fast n smooth. Just thought I put this out for other noobs that are holding back from flashing new ROMs , this is an alternative no deleting just freezing.
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When you freeze the apps it means you disable it right? since some of the apps are essential like the camera, or accessing google+

Thanks, this has reminded me to freeze some more on mine.

innov said:
When you freeze the apps it means you disable it right? since some of the apps are essential like the camera, or accessing google+
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Yes freezing disables it (basically blocks it from doing anything) in fact at the moment they are just taking up space, but didn't want to uninstall or delete anything until I tested the tab for a week see how it handles and if there are any arising problems because of them being frozen.
As I mentioned I use -Camera ICS- so I will be deleting the Camera app that came with the tab. Also what ever app you don't use I recommend freezing or deleting. Freezing apps you don't use on daily basis and just deleting the ones you don't use at all
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I did something similar with my 3113 last night. I used a list that I found in another thread though that's in xls format.
I have a question though. I installed Steam through the play store. At login, all I get is a 2 tone gray / black screen. Is anyone aware of any of these apps possibly having an effect on the steam app or connectivity? I googled the problem, and I'm not the only person to have this happen. However, it wasn't just with this tab and the problem seems rare.

Lehocki said:
I got my SGT2_7 P3113UEALD3 a few days ago and used it stock no root no flashing other ROM on it just to see how it performs. It was a bit slow. Then I rooted installed TiBu and started freezing apps didn't delete any and now it runs fast and smooth. These are the apps I froze.
AccuWeather
Amazon Kindle
Aurora 2.1.1
Bluetooth Test 1.0
Bubbles 1.0
Camera 1.5 I installed Camera ICS 1.1.1a
CharOn 1.8.3
Choco EUKor 1.0
com.android.smspush 4.0.3
com.samsung.app.playreadyui 4.0.3
CSC 1.0 (maybe I shouldn't have done this one cause don't know what exactly it does but so far I had no problems so I'll leave it frozen)
Digital clock 1.0
DSMForwarding 1.0
DSMLawmo 1.0
DttSupport 1.0
Dual clock 1.0
Factory Mode 1.0 (don't know what the last five do but no problems yet)
Factory Test 1.0
Game Hub 2.0 (don't play games)
Google Play Books 2.5.83
Google Play Movies & TV 2.0.9c ( I got Netflix )
Google Play Music 4.1.513
Google Search 1.4.1 (use the browser)
Google Text-to-Speach Engine
Google+
Helv Neue S 1.0 ( ? )
Bookmarks internet ( I use Dolphin HD )
Key Chain ( ? )
Kobo 2.7.816
Market Feedback Agent
Media Hub 1.6.0
Mobile print 1.6.0
Mobile tracker 1.0
Music Hub
MusicFX ( I installed Volume+ )
OMACP v3_1203_2_1
Phase beam 1.0
PhoneUtil 1.0.0
Photo wall
PickupTutorial
PopupuiReceiver
PressReader 3.6.0314 ( I use other )
Program monitor 1.0
Readers Hub
Samsung account
Samsung apps
Samsung keyboard ( I use Swype )
Samsung push service
Samsung TTS
SamsungAppsUNA2
Screen capture
SecLauncher ( I use Apex or ADW )
SecWalpaperChooser ( I use -wp clock- )
Setup Wizard
SNS
Sound Recorder
SurfSetProp
SysScope 2.1.0
Talkback 3.0.2
TwDFSApp
Voice Search
World clock
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YouTube ( I use Dolphin )
Zinio
Am also thinking of freezing -VpnDialogs- but will wait, not shure what it does. Also I welcome all comments and explanation on some of the apps and what they do. I'm a noob at this just figured I try something and see what happens. Also as I already mentioned so far so good everything is running OK fast n smooth. Just thought I put this out for other noobs that are holding back from flashing new ROMs , this is an alternative no deleting just freezing.
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You can disabke many more...
Like Google maps as it starts it service it background and eats ram....
Also you can disable Samsung cloud adapters,calander,contacts synchronization app and many more...as I am currently on cyanogen mod so do not have list of all apps...
You can ask for apps which u have doubt in.....
Sent from my GT-P3100 using xda app-developers app

Be careful not to load any games on that tab, they eat a lot of memory,

Autostarts is an awesome program to keep apps from starting. Also rom toolbox has a startup feature in it.
sent from MY BAD A$$ ET4G

Here's the list I used that I got from another thread here on XDA -
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4c4jei5ZRkzSDhzM3JNMWRMa28/edit?usp=sharing
Tonight I started uninstalling pre-loaded bloat. Will do more tomorrow.

DigitalMD said:
Be careful not to load any games on that tab, they eat a lot of memory,
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Meh. I've installed quite a few apps, including some games, and still showing about 3gb free. Going to try the internal to external sd swap once I get my ROM slimmed down as much as possible, backed up, wiped and reflashed. If you're having storage space issues, check out the swap - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961097

Zagnutty said:
Meh. I've installed quite a few apps, including some games, and still showing about 3gb free. Going to try the internal to external sd swap once I get my ROM slimmed down as much as possible, backed up, wiped and reflashed. If you're having storage space issues, check out the swap - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961097
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That script works really well, it is also why i'm not moving past 4.1.2, it doesn't work on versions beyond that, because of the storage structure( multi-user ability maybe?), or something.
I agree with the op. Even on my favorite ROMs, which have less bloat than stock, I need to freeze apps in order to free up ram.
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I haven't flashed a new rom yet, nor have I tried the sd swap trick / script. Got my gf an 8gb sd card today for her to use for movies on a road trip in a week. When she gets back, I'm going to switch her for my 4gb and then try the swap.
Sent from a rooted candy bar

List of things that can be frozen / uninstalled

I know alot of phone sections have a list of these, being we dont have ROM's readily available to us yet, it would probably be a good idea to compile a list of things that can safely be frozen / uninstalled from titanium backup, not just including the regular bloat, i have just started messing around with mine, so if anyone would like to share i will add them to a list in the OP.
Safe:good:
All amazon bloat
Verizon Apps
Audible
Circles
Demo Mode
Email
Google Play Books
Google Play Magazines
Google Play Movies
Google Plus
Help
How to Videos
IMDB
Moto Chinese Input
Moto Smart Handwriting
Moto Stroke
Moto #$%$^
Movie Studio
NFL Mobile
Picasa Uploader
Quick Office
Setup Wizard ( all of them )
Smart Actions ( all 3 )
Swype
Video Calling
Viewdini
VZ Navigator
Zappos
This is all i have done so far and know is safe, but i know that there is ALOT more that can safely be frozen / removed. lets get the list rollin

Modem Fast Dormancy ( disable to save battery? )
Stock launcher and config
Circles config
Anything with "huxvmm" in it
Favorite contacts
All setup wizard apps
Online album
Google chrome
Preset
Debug apps
Movie studio
Orientation notifier
Google talk
Talk back
Tags
Voice commands
ill continue the list here, that was my other account, since i forgot my pw.
some taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942984

circles is disabled but always shows in my running apps? Any idea why, I know there is a weather service associated with it but idk if disabling that would disable weather all together

already covered
Existing thread on this already, for circles to not show up just uninstall it and its associated config extension
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942984

tadgerloks said:
Existing thread on this already, for circles to not show up just uninstall it and its associated config extension
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942984
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yeah that's a response to someones question this is more of a compilation of everything, things not included on that list as well. i will merge that list into mine as i think this is a better place to locate the info.

How do I remove these apps?

UN5EEN said:
How do I remove these apps?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DMsImNvbS5rZXJhbWlkYXMuVGl0YW5pdW1CYWNrdXAiXQ..

Yufice said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DMsImNvbS5rZXJhbWlkYXMuVGl0YW5pdW1CYWNrdXAiXQ..
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when i was on stock i didnt use nfc and un installed it and the phone still worked fine i also got rid of moto account service or what ever it was called

[Q] Removable Apps List [De-bloating Stock & ROMs]

I'm curious if anyone has a list of removable apps for the stock Defy as well as lists for Quarx's CM10 roms etc. I've found a few but were either very old or sem-related roms and releases.
From what I gathered most of the bloat is gone in Roms like Quarx's CM10. Of course not all of the included services and apps will be used by the user, for example, I don't use bluetooth, nor do I use the FM Radio etc. Most of these basic apps with layman-like labeling I've uninstalled but some are a little more like: "Download Manager" or "DRM Protected Content Storage."
I'm curious to hear if anyone has a more conclusive list than my clusterf-- of pieces.
Cheers.

I am also interested in this, I would uninstall stock messages, and browser, music player, video player... but will the phone stay completely functional?
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neky92 said:
I am also interested in this, I would uninstall stock messages, and browser, music player, video player... but will the phone stay completely functional?
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If I can retrace some of my searches I can offer a few of the old lists. Unfortunately I never made a comprehensive one for myself and the Defy. I only just started to label my apps in Titanium Backup when I realized
For example much of the general stock apps I know can be uninstalled, naturally if you want music to play but don't have a music player, you may want to stick with stock until you find an music app which you like (I run Subsonic and have been checking up on XenoAmp's development... I just love the ideas behind it).
I've found it never hurts to back up and do a test run of the app frozen before you remove it. Here's some of the stock Apps I've removed/Frozen(Titanium Backup) without a hitch:
Safe to remove if you don't use: + • Suggested to use alternative if removed: ~ • Unknown: ?
Android keyboard (AOSP) 4.1.2...[etc] ~
Android Live Wallpapers 4.1.2... +
Apollo 1.0 +
Black Hole 1.0 +
Bluetooth Pairings ?
Bluetooth Share 4.1.2... ?
Bubbles 1.0 +
Bookmarks (stock browser) ?
Browser 4.1.2... +
Calendar 4.1.2... ?
Calendar Storage 4.1.2... ?
Clock 2.0.3 (ALARMS) ?
CM Wallpapers 4.1.2... +
com.Android.wallpaper.holospiral 4.1.2... +
com.google.android.voicesearch 4.0.0 +
Contacts 4.1.2... ?
Contacts Storage 4.1.2.... ?
Dictionary Provider 4.1 ?
Downloads 4.1.2... ?
DRM Protected Content Storage 4.1.2... ?
Email 4.1 +
Exchange Services 5.0 +
File Manager 1.0.1 ~
FM Radio 4.1.2...+
FMRadioService 2.1 update1 +
Google Calendar Sync 4.0.3 ?
Google Contacts Sync 4.1 ?
Google Text-to-speech Engine 4.1 ?
Home screen tips 1.0 +
Live Wallpaper Picker 4.1.2... +
Magic Smoke Wallpapers 4.1.2... +
Music Visualization Wallpapers 4.1.2... +
News & Weather 1.3.11 +
Phone Portal 2.3.3 +
Picasa Uploader 1.1 ?
Pico TTS 1.0 ?
Sound Search for Google Play 1.0.1 +
Talk 4.1 ?
TalkBack 3.1.1 +
Theme Chooser 0.1. ?
Themes Provider 2.0.25 ?
Trebichet 0.2 ~
TTS Service 2.3.7 +
Voice Dialer 4.1.2... +
VPN Services 2.3.7 +
VpnDialogs 4.1.2... +
Wi Fi Calling 1.0 +​

You can use Root uninstaller for this. If you searcha little on the net you can find some answer eg.: http://androidforums.com/elite-all-things-root/566411-guide-removing-stock-apps.html

pgreed said:
You can use Root uninstaller for this. If you searcha little on the net you can find some answer eg.: http://androidforums.com/elite-all-things-root/566411-guide-removing-stock-apps.html
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Haha, nice. That's is one of the lists I read a while back. Would you happen to know of a list for the Defy? Not to mention the list clearly isn't exactly replicable for us. ie "Home Screen Tips - Desktop tip widget. Will make phone FC after factory reset"
Cheers.

KicknGuitar said:
Haha, nice. That's is one of the lists I read a while back. Would you happen to know of a list for the Defy? Not to mention the list clearly isn't exactly replicable for us. ie "Home Screen Tips - Desktop tip widget. Will make phone FC after factory reset"
Cheers.
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Yes I know that is not entirely applicable to Defy but if you read between rows is very useful. I use it and I've make some space on system ( ~75MB free).

pgreed said:
Yes I know that is not entirely applicable to Defy but if you read between rows is very useful. I use it and I've make some space on system ( ~75MB free).
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Oh, absolutely. I'd just love to hear what else I can squeeze out. I don't use a lot of basic apps and services even on the debloated CM ROMs. Since it's so easy to overload the Defy with too many things running I'd rather keep everything minimal.
Since no one has a defy-specific list maybe I'll update this one in a day or two.

Official KitKat Bloatware Removal Thread

Hi All,
Now that most people have installed the OTA KitKat and knowing that this will be the last update Motorola makes for our phones, I thought it would be a good idea to make a collection of all the system bloatware that came with the OTA that is able to be removed safely without affecting the performance or running of the phone (either frozen or deleted for those of us lucky enough to be unlocked and already rooted). Lord knows I have been waiting a long long time to delete these apps and not just have them frozen! I'll keep a running list in the second post, hopefully in alphabetical order, as people post up any that I have forgotten about or didn't think of.
Again, this is just a list of everything that is safe to remove if people don't use the apps / functions, not necessarily things that have to be removed.
...there's nothing like freeing up memory and RAM 8)
EDIT: The hard ones to pick out are gonna be all the "com.***" ones since they're not quite as self-explanatory...

List of bloat:
- Amazon
- Amazon App Suite
- Amazon Kindle
- Amazon mp3
- Android Keyboard (AOSP)
- Android Live Wallpapers
- Audible
- Black Hole
- Bubbles
- Calculator
- Calendar
- Circles
- Cloud
- Cloud Print - thanks @jldr
- Droid Zap
- Email
- Face Unlock
- Google Play Books
- Google Play Games
- Google Play Movies & TV
- Google Play Newstand
- Google Search - thanks @Sefirosu
- Hangouts
- Help - thanks @scobywhru
- Homescreen Tips
- HP Print Service Plugin - thanks @jldr
- IMDb
- Live Wallpaper Picker
- Magic Smoke Wallpapers
- Maps - thanks @Sefirosu
- MC3
- Messaging
- Movie Studio
- Music Visualization Wallpapers
- NFL Mobile - thanks @jldr
- Phase Beam
- Quickoffice
- RealRacing2
- Setup 4.4.2-10 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 4.4.2-10 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 1.0 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 1.3 - thanks @scobywhru
- Slacker Radio
- SmartActions
- SmartActions Android Framework
- SmartActions Proprietary Framework
- Talkback
- Translate
- Verizon Tones
- VZ Navigator
- Weather
- YouTube
- Zappos

Calculator, Youtube, Live Wallpaper?

jldr said:
Calculator, Youtube, Live Wallpaper?
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Like I said, they are removable but some people will want to keep them. Personally I keep the YouTube, but use a scientific calculator app and don't use live wallpaper.

Ah I see, I didn't think those were removable. I thought they were system apps.

You're right, they are system apps, but can be frozen and for those of us lucky enough to be unlocked and rooted on KK they can be deleted (using TiBu or some other method). Everything listed above is considered a "system app". But, the list is not comprehensive.
That's why I was looking for input for some of the more not-as-obviously-named removable apps. I know there was a list floating around somewhere, I had a bunch of stuff frozen from that list whilst on JB. But now that our phones are not going to be updated any further (and if there is a surprise update that comes to us, we can put the phones back to "stock" using SamuriHL's RSD Lite scripts), I'd like to delete them permanently.

Just an update - I was able to safely remove the all-important NFL Mobile app without hardbricking

Guys, I'm sorry to crash this thread, I'm locked and on 9.18.64. Since your all rooted and unlocked, I was wondering if anyone of you would be willing to give SamuriHl a freshly installed and rooted system dump using the safestrap method he outlines in the KitKat root tracking thread? I'd like to be a guinea pig for this one chance root experiment. That's the only missing piece ATM.

jldr said:
Just an update - I was able to safely remove the all-important NFL Mobile app without hardbricking
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Ah, yes. How could I miss that one. Added, thanks!

Would love to help @MarcusWhite but I do not have SS installed. I also am a pretty big noob about these things, I can'do much past rooting/unlocking/custom ROMs.
Also I found another bloatware - HP Printer Service or whatever it's called.

jldr said:
Also I found another bloatware - HP Printer Service or whatever it's called.
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Good call, I forgot all the wifi printer apps!
Updated the list with some others that I found as well (Email, Hangouts, Messaging, Music Visualization Wallpapers, etc.) All can be safely removed, but make sure you have another method for emailing or texting, lol

Freeze bloatware
K, I was able to freeze the bloatware using my unrooted 4.4.2.
I went into each apps settings (long press the icon, app info). Then I cleared the "Show notifications" check, Force stop, then Disable. After that the offending apps weren't showing up under the app screen.
If you go to Play store, you'll find them listed as "Disabled".
Hope this helps some, and keep up the good fight for Root access with this update.

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K, I was able to freeze the bloatware using my unrooted 4.4.2.
I went into each apps settings (long press the icon, app info). Then I cleared the "Show notifications" check, Force stop, then Disable. After that the offending apps weren't showing up under the app screen.
If you go to Play store, you'll find them listed as "Disabled".
Hope this helps some, and keep up the good fight for Root access with this update.
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Sigh... Please don't spam this thread with posts about root on stock KK. If you don't have it by now, get used to not having it on this phone EVER.

I have removed and disabled the google search app without any negative issues to the rom.
I don't use it as I find myself using my personal browser more than the useless google app. Plus no google now push. However, it does remove the search bar, but doesn't break the roms ability to search from an up swipe from the dock using a browser with search functions, or another search app.
You can also freeze google maps along with its companion app without issue.
You should also consider putting a list of apps not to mess with this time around. This is because a few system apps have become more vital in the rom.
For instance, Google Play Services was able to be disabled and removed without reinstalling automatically in Jelly Bean, but it can no longer be frozen or deleted as it will seriously mess up the google play store with it's recent update in kitkat.

Sefirosu said:
I have removed and disabled the google search app without any negative issues to the rom.
I don't use it as I find myself using my personal browser more than the useless google app. Plus no google now push. However, it does remove the search bar, but doesn't break the roms ability to search from an up swipe from the dock using a browser with search functions, or another search app.
You can also freeze google maps along with its companion app without issue.
You should also consider putting a list of apps not to mess with this time around. This is because a few system apps have become more vital in the rom.
For instance, Google Play Services was able to be disabled and removed without reinstalling automatically in Jelly Bean, but it can no longer be frozen or deleted as it will seriously mess up the google play store with it's recent update in kitkat.
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Thanks! They've been added to the list.
The "do not touch" app list sounds like a good idea, but I was thinking of just leaving it as whatever isn't listed in post #2 shouldn't be touched

LifeAsADroid said:
Sigh... Please don't spam this thread with posts about root on stock KK. If you don't have it by now, get used to not having it on this phone EVER.
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Haha. How do you like your crow prepared? Despite the fact that root and unlock is now available again for a short time, anyway, I think he was showing how there is some freeze ability without root with this update.
With that said, I can't find acoustic warning in tibu, is it now called something else? I can't stand the auto volume drop when I hook to my truck radio.
Update: nvm. Its no longer standalone. Its in android os. You have to use xposed to disable it.

Something I killed in this list removed my speech to text capability. The microphone icon is gone from the keyboard when texting. Any idea what did it?
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If I had to guess, I'd say it was removing Google search that did the trick. That's when mine disappeared anyway. I rarely use the option so it didn't bother me too much. If you haven't uninstalled Google search, then you should just be able to verify Google voice typing is enabled. If that doesn't do it, you might also have to long press the button to the left of the space bar and assign the mic to that key.
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I think you can add
Help
Home Screen Tips
You can add the following as well since they aren't needed once you setup the device.
Setup 4.4.2-10
Setup Wizard 4.4.2-10
Setup Wizard 1.3
Setup Wizard 1.0

OK, I'll bite. It seems I'm only able to freeze bloatware. I try uninstalling w/ TBU, but they're all still there. Since I don't see any reason to have to restore them for an OTA, I'd just like to get rid of them.