I can't find a straight answer. What is EDGE. Does it just mean 3G?
What is UTMS? what are relevant to me in the UK
thanks
Lewis
BigDamHero said:
I can't find a straight answer. What is EDGE. Does it just mean 3G?
What is UTMS? what are relevant to me in the UK
thanks
Lewis
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let's read the post under mine, Thanks
from www.wikipedia.org
EDGE:
Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution (EDGE) is a digital mobile phone technology which acts as a bolt-on enhancement to 2G and 2.5G (a.k.a.GPRS(General Packet Radio Service)) networks. This technology works in TDMA and GSM networks. EDGE (also known as EGPRS) is a superset to GPRS and can function on any network with GPRS deployed on it (provided the carrier implements the necessary upgrades).
EDGE provides Enhanced GPRS (EGPRS), which can be used for any packet switched applications such as an Internet connection. High-speed data applications such as video services and other multimedia benefit from EGPRS' increased data capacity.
UMTS:
Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) is one of the third-generation (3G) mobile phone technologies. It uses W-CDMA as the underlying standard, is standardized by the 3GPP, and represents the European/Japanese answer to the ITU IMT-2000 requirements for 3G Cellular radio systems.
UMTS is not the only 3G technology used. CDMA-2000_1x-EvDO is an alternative to UMTS. CDMA2000-1X-EVDO has been deployed commercially nationwide in Japan since December 2003 with transfer rates of 2.4Mbit/s, which is about 6 times faster than UMTS in the first development stage in major cities of Europe (around 2005). PHS, which is widely deployed in Japan, China, and other areas of Asia, also achieves similarly high data transmission rates and therefore is a strong competitor in the market place to UMTS networks. Data connections at wLAN locations (Hot Spots) also compete with UMTS in urban centers.
To differentiate UMTS from competing network technologies, UMTS is sometimes marketed as 3GSM, emphasizing the combination of the 3G nature of the technology and the GSM standard which it was designed to succeed.
Understanding EDGE and UMTS
EDGE is considered 2.5G.
It's average download speed is 70-135 kilobits per second (Kbps), and it's burst speed is up to 200 Kbps. It's more than 3 times the speed of GPRS, and nearly twice the speed of CDMA 1xRTT (Verizon Wireless' Express Network before EV-DO).
In the USA, EDGE has already been rolled out to Cingular's network and just now to T-Mobile's network.
The HTC Wizard is EDGE ready, Class B. Class B means it can take voice or data, but not both simultaneously. Depending on the wireless carrier, you will likely drop (or suspend) a data session if an incoming call comes in.
UMTS is considered 3G.
It's average speed is 220-320 Kbps, with a burst speed of 384 Kbps. It's about 8 times the speed of GPRS.
From what I hear about the UK, they have skipped over EDGE and gone straight to UMTS. In the USA, UMTS is currently rolled out in very few select cities and on a different frequency than UK, which makes the JASJAR's new UMTS capability incompatible with USA-based wireless carriers. However, the US military is planning to give up the 2100 MHz frequency in 2007 for bidding, in which it may then be taken for use on wireless carriers for 3G or future technology.
UMTS devices cannot use EDGE technology, and vice versa. If you have a UMTS device and the carrier supports EDGE and GPRS, you will drop down to GPRS for data connections. If you have an EDGE device and the carrier supports UMTS and GPRS, you will also drop down to GPRS for data connections.
Remember, the above speeds are provided in kilobits per second (Kbps). Divide the number by 8 and you'll get the theoretical maximum speed in kilobytes per second (KBps, note the capital B), a number you'll be more familiar with in, i.e. download dialog box in your browser. EDGE 200 Kbps = 25 KBps, UMTS 384 Kbps = 48 KBps. It might not seem like a lot, but don't forget compression, the fact that you're on a mobile device. For example, a 4MB download (the average size of an MP3 file) can be downloaded in 1:30-2:00, given the maximum throughput of 48 KBps.
More information here:
http://www.3g-generation.com/gprs_and_edge.htm
http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/umts
http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/edge
No UK Mobile operators use EDGE , all on there 3G service use UMTS.
EDGE
I was wondering... Is EDGE free??? Or do you have to like buy a plan for it or something???
yes you have to be on a data plan such as Cingular’s PDA connect for $45 per month...T-mobile is similar but $50 per month. I have read that there are ways around using PDA connect and use MediaNet unlimited for only $20 per month.
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Thanks FRYMAN. I was thinking about getting a Blackberry 7105t. But is there anyway to somehow use the phone as a modem for my laptop for free? Like by somehow getting around it or some program?
dreadlord369 said:
Thanks FRYMAN. I was thinking about getting a Blackberry 7105t. But is there anyway to somehow use the phone as a modem for my laptop for free? Like by somehow getting around it or some program?
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Unfortunately nothing these days is really free.
--M
I guess some things can be FREE
dreadlord369 said:
Thanks FRYMAN. I was thinking about getting a Blackberry 7105t. But is there anyway to somehow use the phone as a modem for my laptop for free? Like by somehow getting around it or some program?
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looks like there is a way around it now...check out this thread for us t-mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288844
fryman said:
yes you have to be on a data plan such as Cingular’s PDA connect for $45 per month...T-mobile is similar but $50 per month. I have read that there are ways around using PDA connect and use MediaNet unlimited for only $20 per month.
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t-mobile's is not $50. It's only $30 for total internet plan. or the basic internet plan is only $5.99.
Edge is 4-5 times faster than GPRS...
I went to the T mobile store and showed them under about phone > network it shows HSDPA. He said this is normal and it its really HSPA+. Does everyone else have this or is it just me?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) is an enhanced 3G (third generation) mobile telephony communications protocol in the High-Speed Packet Access (HSPA) family, also dubbed 3.5G, 3G+ or turbo 3G, which allows networks based on Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) to have higher data transfer speeds and capacity. Current HSDPA deployments support down-link speeds of 1.8, 3.6, 7.2 and 14.0 Megabits/s. Further speed increases are available with HSPA+, which provides speeds of up to 42 Mbit/s downlink and 84 Mbit/s with Release 9 of the 3GPP standards.[1]
Yea I know that Im asking if anyone has an actual HSPA+ under network that shows up because everyone I've seen around my way has HSDPA. The rep said even though it says that you get HSPA+ speeds.
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Mine shows UMTS, but im running cm7.
Scratch that, just got 4g. Says HSDPA.
Does anyone know why the hd2 has hsdpa support (hspa+ downloads) before T-Mobile's hspa 4g campaign? It can be considered as half of a 4g device since it only supports 4g downloads but not 4g uploads.
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the htc hd2 supports up to 7.2Mbps. But the real 4G t-mobile is coming out is 40+
HSDPA and HSPA+ are 2 different things.
TmoUS HD2 does support HSDPA (when you see the H in the taskbar) but does not support HSPA+
HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) is actually more like 3G+ since I do get insane download speeds on it, and it has the actual capacity to get 14.4 MBPS down (although I don't know anyone who gets that)
HSPA+ (Evolved High-Speed Packet Access) can get up to 42 MBPS down and our phones do not support this.
Hello,
The Xoom has a Qualcomm MDM6600™:
- HSPA+ with data rates of up to 14.4 Mbit/s
- CDMA2000® 1xEV-DO Rev. A/Rev. B support
Is there a way to activate the HSPA+ ? because it is compatible with european networks.
Moved to general.
Hi guys,
I noticed that 4G (HSPA) drains my batter far more than 3.5G (HSDPA).
I noticed this because all day yesterday I was getting H only not H+ and I noticed my battery drained less than when its primarily connected to H+.
Is there a way to turn off HSPA (4G) but keep HSDPA (3.5G) active?
Thanks.
You are confusing yourself.
HSPA and HSDPA is same thing.
HSDPA = High Speed Downlink Packet Access (Downlink/download part of the HSPA)
HSUPA = High Speed Uplink Packet Access.
HSPA+ = Evolved High Speed Packet Access (faster)
All of these are 3.5G only. Some american carriers like to call HSPA/HSPA+ as 4G but its not.
Basically if network sometimes looses HSPA+ connectivity for short period due to network glitches or as per area sometimes. Thats why you were getting just H and not H+ for short period.
Nothing more to it. Phone is HSPA+ ready so if your network supports it, it will default to HSPA+. You can force it to be in EDGE mode, thats it.
Correct. HSDPA and HSPA+ (what he called 4g) is quite literally in every respect the exact same thing. Literally, they are both 3.5g. The battery drain was likely coincidental. More tests would certainly be needed.
RogerPodacter said:
Correct. HSDPA and HSPA+ (what he called 4g) is quite literally in every respect the exact same thing. Literally, they are both 3.5g. The battery drain was likely coincidental. More tests would certainly be needed.
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Nope, HSDPA and HSPA are the same, as HSPA is just a container name for HSDPA and HSUPA. HSDPA+ is up to 84Mbit and HSDPA is up to 14Mbit.
Hmmm so apparently I cannot seperate HSPA from HSDPA as they are the same thing.
HSDPA + HSUPA = HSPA
So does that mean previously the upload rate was not as fast as the download so they introduced HSPA which combines a fast download (HSDPA) with a fast upload (HSUPA)?
Because it appears I can disable HSPA (HSDPA) but dialing *301279# and turning off HSPA which will give me 3G only.