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After the launch of Samsung Galaxy S, hardly after 15 days we noticed rumors started from a russian sites that its predecessor is already in development with following specs:
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- OS: Google 3.0 Gingerbread
- 4.3-inch 2-Super AMOLED display with 1280x720 resolution
- 1080p Full HD video recording
- 2 GHz processor
- 32 GB of internal memory, a slot for MicroSD memory cards up to 32 GB
- 1 GB RAM, 4 GB ROM
- Battery: 2000 mAh
- 8-megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video recording
- 3.5 mm audio jack
- A-GPS, Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor
- Google Service (Android Market, Google Search, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube)
some say that this phone will b available in 2011. other says this might hit the market on Christmas.
Guys. i want to know what do u think about it. is it true or fan gone crazy.
Looks like a real killer if we go by specifications alone. Looks extremely tempting to me. Not sure how real though.
and ive noticed most of rumors about samsung mobiles from russian sources turn out to be true. fingers crossed this time
fayeznoor said:
and ive noticed most of rumors about samsung mobiles from russian sources turn out to be true. fingers crossed this time
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I was going to bring up the Russian accuracy thing, they had an accurate Bada phone preview that included the Wave and the next announced devices.
I think this is ahead of their processor roadmap, and even so I still think whatever they use is likely to be designed and made in-house.
I think this is true or close to true, but part of that is definitely wishful thinking. If it's not completely true, it's probably close to right, and we will probably get an announcement around the holidays so they can get people to hold off on buying a new phone from a competitor. If this has a 2000 mAh battery I'd break my SGS contract to get one.
It's fake. 2Ghz ARM in a consumer device is a pipe dream right now.
Plus Samsung have invested heavily in ramping up production of the Galaxy S, they're not going to cripple sales just as they complete their roll-out.
I could see that happening in about a years time. Anyone could really guess those specs... I definitely wouldn't hold my breath for it though. Better to just get the GS now if you want a good phone.
Also I believe that 4.3 screen is too large for a phone, as it becomes almost unpocketable.
Read this:
http://briefmobile.com/samsung-i9200-galaxy-s2-is-probably-a-fake
it'll need to carry a pretty thick battery. or the battery life is pretty bad.
unless they miraculously came up with some better type of battery.
Definitely wouldn't come out for Christmas, it would canibalize i9000 sales. Just like TravUK said they'd probably work towards rolling out the i9000 to the max.
Regarding the battery, if they come up with new processor architecture or screen technology like some advanced super amoled, that could help a lot two
I would come right back to Android for a device like this or one like it made by HTC. Regardless, I have no doubt we are going to see much better devices from most of, if not all of the majors by Dec (or least full specs of soon to be released phones by Dec).
If you're stuck in a new 2 year right now and you can't or don't want to pay up to get out, you'll be feeling the burn in 4 months; such is the speed of phone tech these days.
I'll not be surprised if it's true.
In fact i was waiting for something like this to come out.
Unfortunately I needed a NEW phone NOW like yesterday, so from the crop of current available best phone was the SGS i9000, and that's what i purchased.
I'm quite sure if that 2Ghz phone makes it to the market next year, it'll cost over $1500+
That thing is essentially a PC inside a phone case.
4.3" screens are huge, most people will not like it in their pocket.
my old HTC Athena has a 5" screen and.... THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASON why i switched back to a slightly smaller screen like the one on the SGS i9000
anything larger than 4" is very uncomfortable in the front pocket of your jeans, or shirt as most of these phones now in days pack quite a bit of weight to it, although the SGS i9000 is OK, not too heavy.
in the past i choosed the HTC Athena for the 5" screen for movies and stuff, because i used to sit a lot in the Subway, and Buses, it was great, but it sucks when you want to go to say Theme park, and go on a roller coaster and stuff like that.
That's why i switched back to a smaller phone.
fayeznoor said:
After the launch of Samsung Galaxy S, hardly after 15 days we noticed rumors started from a russian sites that its predecessor is already in development with following specs:
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- OS: Google 3.0 Gingerbread
- 4.3-inch 2-Super AMOLED display with 1280x720 resolution
- 1080p Full HD video recording
- 2 GHz processor
- 32 GB of internal memory, a slot for MicroSD memory cards up to 32 GB
- 1 GB RAM, 4 GB ROM
- 8-megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video recording
- 3.5 mm audio jack
- A-GPS, Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor
- Google Service (Android Market, Google Search, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube)
some say that this phone will b available in 2011. other says this might hit the market on Christmas.
Guys. i want to know what do u think about it. is it true or fan gone crazy.
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I'll probably sell the SGS i9000 and get that one when it comes out, if it's real, and when if it does actually hits the market
AllGamer said:
4.3" screens are huge, most people will not like it in their pocket.
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That's just not true for everyone. My Evo and it's 4.3 screen to me is the perfect phone size aside from it being a bit too thick. Take a look at the SGS and how it, like the iPhone do not use a lot of the front space above and below the screen. Now take a look at other phones such as the Evo and how it has a screen that takes up more of the front space. Holding the Captivate in hand along side the Evo yesterday and the difference in size is very small and really comes down to the Evo being thicker than I'd like. I can place the Evo in my shirt pocket just as I do with the iPhone now.
AshMa said:
That's just not true for everyone. My Evo and it's 4.3 screen to me is the perfect phone size aside from it being a bit too thick.
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that's the problem most of the phones that has larger than 4" screens are too thick, and heavy, both usually due the battery, and other internal components that makes up for the lost space inside the phone.
one of the reason why i like the SGS i9000 so much is because of that, i found it surprising for a 4" phone to be this thin, got tired of carrying a thick 5" phone with me all the time
AllGamer said:
that's the problem most of the phones that has larger than 4" screens are too thick, and heavy, both usually due the battery, and other internal components that makes up for the lost space inside the phone.
one of the reason why i like the SGS i9000 so much is because of that, i found it surprising for a 4" phone to be this thin, got tired of carrying a thick 5" phone with me all the time
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I'm guessing that you haven't picked up an Evo before? It was thick to me but most owners of it thought I was crazy for thinking its a little too thick. The Evo is thick because of the 4G radio and other components; NOT because of the screen size.
And come on now, a 5" phone like the one you had, or the new Dell are in a different class which doesn't include 4.3 inch devices like the Evo. Remember the size is measured from the bottom left corner to the top right corner of the screen. Seriously, Google for side by side images and you'll see what I'm talking about when I say that a 4.3" device like the Evo, is not much bigger than the SGS. BTW' The HD2 I have is a very thin phone yet it has the exact same 4.3" Evo screen......
My dream phone would look a lot like the Evo and be the same size only a bit thinner and have a flush camera lens (with a powered lens door) along with having the iPhone 4 screen (in 4.3" of course) and at least Android 2.2 while waiting for 3.0. 1ghz or 1.5 Samsung CPU, 16GB internal with SD card supprt and all the other goodies we all love.......
2Ghz CPU in a phone is not really viable as 99% of the time the phone sits on 200-400Mhz for power efficiency anyways. I'd rather see a dual core 1 to 1.2ghz CPU instead, so that twice the work is done in the lower, more power efficient Mhz range.
cheetah2k said:
2Ghz CPU in a phone is not really viable as 99% of the time the phone sits on 200-400Mhz for power efficiency anyways. I'd rather see a dual core 1 to 1.2ghz CPU instead, so that twice the work is done in the lower, more power efficient Mhz range.
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battery is rumored to be 2000mAh
I too had an HTC Athena, and loved it fiercely at the time when everyone else only had 2.8 inch screen tiny phones. If time is to go back to 2007 I'll still make the same choice. I'm into big screen phones which is in my mind the only real attraction of looking outside iphone.
Of course, today I would never want something as thick, big, and heavy as Athena anymore. Our yardstick for acceptability should change as technology moves forward rather than stay static.
The hugh battery need too drive such a PC (as one of us calls it) might be too heavy. So, I'll wait till the final spec to become available before deciding. By then there may be a 4.3 inch iphone too.
I'll start believing in 2GHz phones when anyone makes a 2GHz ARM SoC. Qualcomm just recently introduced a 1.3Ghz 45nm Snapdragon, and they were the first to bring a 1Ghz ARM-based SoC to market, so I doubt anyone is substantially ahead and about to release one that runs at twice the current speeds. ARM SoCs have definitely not advanced at such speeds in the past - they were hovering around 600MHz at peak for a long time.
Also, an updated version of Super AMOLED so soon, when it's only on a couple of devices? And along with it, a resolution that's higher than any other Android phone? I don't see this turning up soon.
So it has a CPU that doesn't exist yet, a screen that also doesn't exist yet, twice the RAM/ROM/storage and 25% more battery capacity than the Galaxy S, and an improved camera. Sounds like a wish-list to me.
natsirt789 said:
Read this:
http://briefmobile.com/samsung-i9200-galaxy-s2-is-probably-a-fake
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I don't think this is well written. First, the processor is definitely the most suspect thing, I'll give them that. However, the talk about the naming convention and the Samsung Super AMOLED, but I don't think they know much about the tech behind it. If they can make a AMOLED with 720p, then the SAMOLED wont be that much development, it's in their development process that they just eliminate a layer of touch and put it into the screen, the real hard part is making 720p, but they've been working on this for a long time, to think because they just shipped their first devices with it doesn't mean much to me, personally, but what do I know?
Saying 4.3 is the sweetspot, I can't disgaree with more, they are trying to compete with HTC and Moto and all the others, they could care less if 50% of the market wants 4", 10% want 3.5" 20% want 3.7" and 15% want 4.3"...they want to grow and they can afford to make 4.3" screens since they can use it in other devices in the future.
I won't get started on the naming convention, because that is subject to change and just a dumb point of arguing. Perhaps their naming convention is based on how long it took to make a follow up, then 9200 is perfect.
Also, to those who say this will cannibalize sales, they would be different class devices and this would be more profitable. They'd love to partially cannibalize sales in order to get the highest-end, most profitable device into as many hands as possible. HTC is growing and growing fast with this strategy, Samsung would love to emulate it, if they can.
All that said, again, I don't think this is really a done deal...but I think that article is a bit naive with it's logic and focusing too much on what Qualcomm is doing when Samsung and Qualcomm use different chips.
Mithent said:
I'll start believing in 2GHz phones when anyone makes a 2GHz ARM SoC. Qualcomm just recently introduced a 1.3Ghz 45nm Snapdragon, and they were the first to bring a 1Ghz ARM-based SoC to market, so I doubt anyone is substantially ahead and about to release one that runs at twice the current speeds. ARM SoCs have definitely not advanced at such speeds in the past - they were hovering around 600MHz at peak for a long time.
Also, an updated version of Super AMOLED so soon, when it's only on a couple of devices? And along with it, a resolution that's higher than any other Android phone? I don't see this turning up soon.
So it has a CPU that doesn't exist yet, a screen that also doesn't exist yet, twice the RAM/ROM/storage and 25% more battery capacity than the Galaxy S, and an improved camera. Sounds like a wish-list to me.
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I think they are mistaking a dual core processor with 2ghz. It will be 2 1ghz processors.
But don't be so sure about their can't be 2ghz processor as Samsung is on the cutting edge of ARM they might surprise us. At the specs stated it would have better Dpi or similar compared to the Iphone. So it is bound to need a lot more processing power.
I'm not going to lie here, I love my HD2. I've had it for 2 years now, and it's running Android perfectly!
It's that upgrade bi-yearly time though and I'm wondering what newer phones will actually offer me?
NFC - Great, but not necessary
BT 3.0 - For what? I run A2DP in my car + voice perfectly with my HD2
Better display - Well maybe so...maybe so
Advantages of ICS - Well we all know that potentially it will be fully ported to the HD2
Processor - Well maybe snapdragon is single core, slow an outdated, but it still runs things fine for me. I can (as before have A2DP) music, GPS and calls all at the same time.
Seriously, what would a new phone really change for me? You don't have to say one way or the other, it would just be interesting to see some opinions
Cheers!
It'd bring the things you mentioned- faster processor, more RAM, better camera, Bluetooth 4.0, etc etc. There aren't any phones out that match the number of OS options the HD2 has though
Personally, I don't plan on upgrading until my HD2 gets unbearably laggy on AOSP Android, which hopefully won't be another year or so.
The HD2 was a spectacular hype at first, topping charts as the most popular (non-iPhone) smartphone. The large userbase it had that became frustrated with WP6.5 and as such, it got a lot of mod development going for it.
Now that I've had a taste of Android I'll want to use a phone that natively supports it, I'm just looking for the next powerhouse that'll last me another two years. I was looking at the HTC Vigor for its sleek design, large screen and amazing specs, only to find out that Verizon snagged it for themselves exclusively (damn you!).
If your HD2 still works perfectly, there isn't much of a reason to switch unless you can't decide to get a new phone with your plan in the forseeable future. My phone has had its bits of wear and tear, and I think it's now fatally damaged. I don't think many phones would last four years either.
I really see no reason to upgrade. I've been running Touch pro 2 till this summer lol.
The only thing of any worth to me is a higher dpi screen (and better colors) and bigger/longer lasting battery. One the former there's a bunch of phones to chose, but later not so much, and I already have 2 batteries + dock that can charge them.
Yeah, and I dream of a worthy successor to TP2, but those are just pipe dreams as most people think that typing on the screen is ZOMG11!!!1 teh best.
While at it, I miss the stylus, though I'd like an active one ala Wacom. I'd pay through the nose to have such a thing on a phone (and will soon pay through it for a win slate with capacitive+touch to replace my old tablet convertible).
Damn you Jobs for killing the mobile keyboard, stylus and now Flash (I is a Flash dev).
I did think about the pluses of running android native, but I see none. It'll still glitch and crash and/or be bootloader locked, so you could end up in the mercy of carrier/htc :|
Cameras on all phones are very meh, HTC even more so.
Hmm, though Sharp has some SWEET phones I'd switch to, but good luck finding them outside Japan.
Here you go, so you can drool a bit:
AQUOS PHONE 102SH
12MP CMOS camera with full HD video recording
4.5-inch naked-eye 3D LCD screen with 720×1280 resolution and 329dpi pixel density
TI OMAP4430 dual-core CPU (1GHz)
RAM: 1GB, ROM: 2.2GB
Android 2.3
waterproof body (IPX5/7, IP5X)
microSDHC card slot
infrared connection
digital TV tuner
W-CDMA, GSM
size: 128×65×9.7mm, weight: 135g
IEEE802.11b/g/n Wifi
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Hi,
i am also thinking about buying a new device. If GPS had still the connection problems under android as some months ago, i would definitely do so but now, it istn that urgent (at least not at urgent as my change from orbit 2 to Leo ;P ).
I will certainly go for a new device, but i think not now. My reasons for new device:
Display (samsung Galaxy S2 and S1 showed me what is possible and how ugly hd2 screen is)
bigger ROM (Have EU Leo)
Compass support (i am using my phone outdoor, too and the compass didnt work correctly at any time for me)
More Speed
But i think ill wait till Q2/2012 or so when Galaxy S3 and HTC "forgotthename,thisphonewith12MPcameraandlowlightsupprtandquadcore" will be released...
But I am not sure, yet... =D
Greeting, cmoe
Don't jump man! It's not worth it. Think of what you'd be giving up...
Seriously though... I'm in the same position and have to admit to having had a bit of a look around to see what's available. I've also been looking at new phones... ;-)
Sure there are phones out there now with better hardware specs.:
- dual-core CPUs (there's even a quad-core phone rumoured for next year!)
- super amoled screens
- higher res. cameras and camcorders
- 'Beats Audio' from Dr. Dre (whatever that is...!)
But do we really need all that?
Will one of these new phones allow you to switch back and forth between Windows Mobile and Android (pretty much any 'flavour') when you feel like it?
Will one of these new phones allow you to try out the new Windows Phone 7.5 to see if Microsoft have finally got it right?
Will one of these new phones allow you to personalise and modify the look and feel of it to your heart's content? The new HTC Vigor (or 'Rezound' as Verizon are calling it) is apparently going to be difficult to get into!
Is there really anything 'wrong' with the phone you already have and obviously love?
I think when O2 comes-a-calling (if indeed they do), asking whether I would like to upgrade to a new phone, I will ask them how much they are offering for me to forego a new phone and renew on my old phone. I believe some operators are offering up to £150 in credits if you do this (probably not O2 though...). If they do, I'll take the money and keep my HD2. If not, I'll keep my HD2 and switch to another operator on a cheaper Sim-only deal.
There... That's my tuppence worth on the subject...
kosmarnik said:
I really see no reason to upgrade. I've been running Touch pro 2 till this summer lol.
The only thing of any worth to me is a higher dpi screen (and better colors) and bigger/longer lasting battery. One the former there's a bunch of phones to chose, but later not so much, and I already have 2 batteries + dock that can charge them.
Yeah, and I dream of a worthy successor to TP2, but those are just pipe dreams as most people think that typing on the screen is ZOMG11!!!1 teh best.
While at it, I miss the stylus, though I'd like an active one ala Wacom. I'd pay through the nose to have such a thing on a phone (and will soon pay through it for a win slate with capacitive+touch to replace my old tablet convertible).
Damn you Jobs for killing the mobile keyboard, stylus and now Flash (I is a Flash dev).
I did think about the pluses of running android native, but I see none. It'll still glitch and crash and/or be bootloader locked, so you could end up in the mercy of carrier/htc :|
Cameras on all phones are very meh, HTC even more so.
Hmm, though Sharp has some SWEET phones I'd switch to, but good luck finding them outside Japan.
Here you go, so you can drool a bit:
AQUOS PHONE 102SH
12MP CMOS camera with full HD video recording
4.5-inch naked-eye 3D LCD screen with 720×1280 resolution and 329dpi pixel density
TI OMAP4430 dual-core CPU (1GHz)
RAM: 1GB, ROM: 2.2GB
Android 2.3
waterproof body (IPX5/7, IP5X)
microSDHC card slot
infrared connection
digital TV tuner
W-CDMA, GSM
size: 128×65×9.7mm, weight: 135g
IEEE802.11b/g/n Wifi
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Oh my damn that is gorgeous!
Thread on sending moto maxx from mexico to your country:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...ion-coming-t2922398/post56726486#post56726486
Trying Again! will keep you posted
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I just saw on this sites that on wednesday next week, Motorola Brasil will present a phone very similar (if not the same) than the Droid Turbo, so i'll keep my fingers crossed.
i dont speak portuguese but its so similar to spanish that i can translate it to: ''you are a invited for a technological experience without limits''
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GSM ARENA ARTICLE said:
The new Motorola Droid Turbo garnered great interest but as a Verizon-exclusive it felt out of reach. Now Motorola is sending out invites for a November 5 event to announce a global rollout. The invite doesn't call out the device by name but the corner of the back shows Droid Turbo's characteristic Ballistic Nylon back.
Rumors are for a name change to Moto Maxx, resurrecting the Maxx brand, which is associated with some of the most long-lasting batteries in the smartphone history.
It's a fitting name too, the Droid Turbo packs a 3,900mAh battery, which can soak up 8 hours' worth of battery life in just 15 minutes thanks to the Turbo Charger. Other specs include one of the sharpest displays yet, a 5.2" QHD AMOLED, a Snapdragon 805 chipset and a 21MP/2160p camera. Check out our hands-on for more details.
Motorola has already filed for a "Moto Maxx" trademark in the US and is planning a Brazil announcement, so the phone should see a proper global rollout, including alternative US carriers.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/a_global_ve...turbo_to_be_unveiled_in_brazil-news-10075.php
http://pocketnow.com/2014/10/29/international-droid-turbo?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Looks like we are getting it after all!
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Its official, we have a international droid turbo called Moto maxx!
http://www.motorola.com.mx/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-Maxx/moto-maxx-mx.html
Now that would be cool....for us.... And profitable for Motorola....So why they shouldn't??
Just saw this myself and was going to post it. I'm totally sold assuming no weirdness happens to the phone (gets neutered, 3G only, etc) on the way to market.
I was just about to post something about liking the Turbo phone but not a Verizon client. Not even in the US.
This would be a much worth it upgrade from the Moto X. The Moto X is prettier that's for sure, but the processor power, and power management (battery and rapid charging) are totally worth it.
Moto x has rapid charging fwiw!
Let's analyse this a bit further:
This phone is a flagship killer for the following reasons:
The most powerful processor so far
Great screen
Great battery life
Good size for a phone
Great Camera
Front facing speaker
Great user experience:
It's also safe to assume that all the software features are shared (driving mode, touchless controls, assist, etc...
Losing the Verizon branding also indicates that the bloatware is gone, delivering a closer to Vanilla Android experience as ever. This also means that the phone will get updates much earlier than branded version (theoretically)
Not so great:
No expandable memory, no SD slot
Can look better
Doesn't have the Moto X curved back, which once you experience, you feel really awkward holding other phones in your hand.
Lack of front facing dual speakers
Size and weight (a trade-off for exceptional battery life)
Capacitive buttons (and for many reasons):
Android L comes with a different button icon set, means the current capacitive buttons are going to be outdated
I prefer having (and I do add using GravityBox) a menu button at the far right
Phone space wasted even though it frees up more room on the screen
If they add the SD support, improve the look, get it curved, add dual facing speakers, remove capacitive buttons and get it a little bit smaller (even if it means a smaller screen maybe 5 inch) in my opinion this would be THE PERFECT phone.
How is that for a phone review?
I agree about the cap buttons, I greatly prefer to setup an old school four button setup which obviously cant be done with the capacitive unless I want to give up screen real estate or go to pie etc. Still this phone is about the only one that captures my interest right now and I need something new cause the phone slut in me is crying out for something new. I just read that the Moto Maxx name has been trademarked in the US btw so that makes it likely that it will have the right freqs for Tmo and/or AT&T even if it doesn't see carrier release. And further implies (I think) a global release. They claim such here... http://www.gsmarena.com/a_global_ve...turbo_to_be_unveiled_in_brazil-news-10075.php
It's very optimistic, however, Motorola is known for late strategic moves. Moto X price has been reduced dramatically after a few months of its launch and this is when -according to what I know- the value and popularity of it went way up.
Also I am expecting some legal restrictions in the Motorola-Verizon agreement that might (or might not) make this international version launch come later, or with different (maybe lower) specs, or overly priced.
I hope it comes out tomorrow and with an affordable price (following Motorola's new affordability strategy,) but hey, the world we live in is not a perfect one.
ITS ****ING COMING TO MEXICO!
**** YEAH!!!!!!
i dont have to import this one.
invitation in spanish from motorola mexico: ''we invite you to meet our best hidden secret''
same day, november 5
OMG im so excited!
LOOOOL, bought the Moto X 2nd gen 1 month ago....and now, sellling...hahahah
definitily ill buy Droid Maxx!!!!, its coming to Brazil!!, 5th November!!!
tasty_boy said:
LOOOOL, bought the Moto X 2nd gen 1 month ago....and now, sellling...hahahah
definitily ill buy Droid Maxx!!!!, its coming to Brazil!!, 5th November!!!
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I would really wait for the announcement first on the 5th before selling the Moto X.
Einstein_eg said:
It's very optimistic, however, Motorola is known for late strategic moves. Moto X price has been reduced dramatically after a few months of its launch and this is when -according to what I know- the value and popularity of it went way up.
Also I am expecting some legal restrictions in the Motorola-Verizon agreement that might (or might not) make this international version launch come later, or with different (maybe lower) specs, or overly priced.
I hope it comes out tomorrow and with an affordable price (following Motorola's new affordability strategy,) but hey, the world we live in is not a perfect one.
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I wouldn't rule out a neutering either which is why I mentioned it above. Still I think there is hope, Motorola got in deep with Verizon because they needed them when they were on the long slide down but this is no longer the case. Nor am I sure Verizon really cares all that much since the vast majority of people wouldn't know the new "droid" and it's international counterpart where the same thing. For this reason I'm hoping if it is restricted it will only be carrier release in the US but admittedly that's in part due to wishful thinking.
I am hoping for it myself, I just don't want to have that much high hopes, so that I don't get greatly disappointed pessimistic view I know. Hope is there though, I agree. The fact is the droid turbo is winning card, hopefully Motorola is "allowed" to use it, and Verizon can be a little forgiving.
Kiwironic said:
I am hoping for it myself, I just don't want to have that much high hopes, so that I don't get greatly disappointed pessimistic view I know. Hope is there though, I agree. The fact is the droid turbo is winning card, hopefully Motorola is "allowed" to use it, and Verizon can be a little forgiving.
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its almost sure that we will get it, first with the FCC and now with these worldwide annoucements, next week we will know.
Hoping for a UK launch! This (apart from the capacitive buttons) is better for me than the Nexus 6.
Are we there yet?
Really hoping that I can get this in Canada or import it in Canada for 800$.
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Let's analyse this a bit further:
This phone is a flagship killer for the following reasons:
The most powerful processor so far
Great screen
Great battery life
Good size for a phone
Great Camera
Front facing speaker
Great user experience:
It's also safe to assume that all the software features are shared (driving mode, touchless controls, assist, etc...
Losing the Verizon branding also indicates that the bloatware is gone, delivering a closer to Vanilla Android experience as ever. This also means that the phone will get updates much earlier than branded version (theoretically)
Not so great:
No expandable memory, no SD slot
Can look better
Doesn't have the Moto X curved back, which once you experience, you feel really awkward holding other phones in your hand.
Lack of front facing dual speakers
Size and weight (a trade-off for exceptional battery life)
Capacitive buttons (and for many reasons):
Android L comes with a different button icon set, means the current capacitive buttons are going to be outdated
I prefer having (and I do add using GravityBox) a menu button at the far right
Phone space wasted even though it frees up more room on the screen
If they add the SD support, improve the look, get it curved, add dual facing speakers, remove capacitive buttons and get it a little bit smaller (even if it means a smaller screen maybe 5 inch) in my opinion this would be THE PERFECT phone.
How is that for a phone review?
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You forgot to mention that it has wireless charging. This is a big selling point for me since I have a Nexus 5 and was the main reason I wasn't going to get a Moto X. With such a large battery it's perhaps not necessary on the Turbo, but since I'm using a new Nexus Qi charger as my car's dash mount, I really didn't want to lose that.
Nastybutler said:
You forgot to mention that it has wireless charging. This is a big selling point for me since I have a Nexus 5 and was the main reason I wasn't going to get a Moto X. With such a large battery it's perhaps not necessary on the Turbo, but since I'm using a new Nexus Qi charger as my car's dash mount, I really didn't want to lose that.
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To be honest, that was deliberate. My understanding is that Wireless charging is SLOOOOOOW, so freaking slow.
Think of how "Normal" charging is so slow compared to the phone's turbo charge, then think of even slower than that. Once you go turbo charge, you won't be able to come back.
See my point?
Oh by the way, it's the 5th of November here in New Zealand, but I guess I will have to wait another day or two.
Remember remember the 5th of November.
Update:
Hey guys,
Here are some good news:
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_maxx_international_droid_turbo_smiles_for_the_camera-news-10120.php
More:
Moto Maxx Confirmed As Droid Turbo International Version To Be Launched On November 5 In Brazil
Moto Maxx, the international version of Droid Turbo appears
Hey all
Here is a thread to discuss the general specifications and design of the S6 Edge. Anybody planning on picking one of these up over the standard S6?
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Display - Super AMOLED, 5.1 inches, 1440 x 2560 pixels (~576 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Exynos 7420
CPU - Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 2.1 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU - Mali-T760
RAM - 3 GB
Memory - 32/64/128 GB
Camera - 16 MP, 3456 x 4608 pixels, optical image stabilization, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 5 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, gesture, heart rate
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.1
Battery - 2600 mAh - Non removable
Dimensions - 142.1 x 70.1 x 7 mm
Weight - 132 g
Color Availability - White Pearl, Black Sapphire, Gold Platinum, Green Emerald
Source: gsmarena
i am interested, but
probably won't buy it because
1- 5.1 inch screen if only it was 5.5
2- 3gb of ram i think it need 4 to compete
3- the camera that stood out of the device too much
4- there is no micro sd
I was interested too, but now that I see that the casing looks about identical to iphone 6 plus. Its mind boggling how a multimillion dollar company cant come up with their own ideas.
abogrhen said:
i am interested, but
probably won't buy it because
1- 5.1 inch screen if only it was 5.5
2- 3gb of ram i think it need 4 to compete
3- the camera that stood out of the device too much
4- there is no micro sd
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1. its a phone not a phablet
2. compete with what?
3. case fixes that
4. 128gb on board storage not enough for you?
DSA said:
1. its a phone not a phablet
2. compete with what?
3. case fixes that
4. 128gb on board storage not enough for you?
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1. 5.5 does not make it a phablet, I wouldnt call the LG g3 a phablet. I just prefer that size
2. Your right top end phone are coming with only 3gb
3. Your right again, but for some I prefer a nude phone
4. No 128 is not enough anymore.
Not trolling, Just my opinion
1) I would consider 5.5 going into the Phablet area. Not that 5.5 would be bad, I just don't think this phone is trying to compete in that market. I'm sure the new Note will do that.
2) I was expecting 4 as well. All top phones are coming with 3. Just there way of cutting costs and leaving room for the next phone.
3) I PREFER a nude phone... but never do it out of plain fear. it's not even that I'm afraid of dropping it. I'm afraid of things in my pocket scratching it.
4) This is what is making me want to drop Samsung and go to HTC. I can live without a replaceable battery. I mean those portable battery chargers are cheaper than a batter and I have a few. I find it hard to give up the SD slot. @DSA - I agree that 128gb is enough storage for most. Honestly, 64gb is probably enough for me. For me though it's not the size, it's the functionality. Fight now, for every phone I've had, I've just popped out my MicroSD card, put it into the new phone and I was done. All my music, all my pictures, everything was there and ready. What if you drop your phone in water and it dies. I mean, total death, doesn't turn on at all. Before, you pull your MicroSD card out and all your date is still OK. Now, if your phone is dead, your data is gone. Who is backing up 128gigs to the cloud? With the lack of unlimited data, who wants to anyway. I don't want my pictures on the cloud.
So yea, the only killer for me is the SD card. Once again, it's not a size issue, it's just a functionality issue.
Another interesting thing with these phones... has anyone heard anything about a Developers edition coming out?
the_rooter said:
I was interested too, but now that I see that the casing looks about identical to iphone 6 plus. Its mind boggling how a multimillion dollar company cant come up with their own ideas.
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Considering the current iPhone generation was "inspired" by HTC's M7/M8 you could easily argue that Apple is having trouble coming up with their own ideas. Sure the double curved edges are utterly useless and diminish the S6's ergonomics but at least the design is unique.
I must say 5.1 " is the minimum i go for. I take the phone in a close look as my extension of contract approaches and i need something new to play. I will wait till i hold it in my hands before i decide. The rounded edges really looking nice on photos.
S6 wateroroof
Every phone I Destroy is because it is not waterproof.
are all of the openings for Water around the edge ? Then some good quality tape may make it waterproof ? comment's Please Roland
Do we know yet if it will have Googles always listening? I know it's not for everyone, but it should be an option.
abogrhen said:
i am interested, but
probably won't buy it because
1- 5.1 inch screen if only it was 5.5
2- 3gb of ram i think it need 4 to compete
3- the camera that stood out of the device too much
4- there is no micro sd
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If you want a 5.5" phone you should be looking at the Note line, this is not a phablet.
How is 3GB not enough? What other phone has more?
The camera has stood out for a while, most people uses cases so it won't be a big deal.
True, but many of us don't need more than 128GB of storage on a phone.
the_rooter said:
I was interested too, but now that I see that the casing looks about identical to iphone 6 plus. Its mind boggling how a multimillion dollar company cant come up with their own ideas.
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Only the bottom edge looks like an iPhone 6, what else looks like it?
rroland said:
Every phone I Destroy is because it is not waterproof.
are all of the openings for Water around the edge ? Then some good quality tape may make it waterproof ? comment's Please Roland
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Sounds like you should buy a Casio G'Zone and put it in a Lifeproof case.
geoff5093 said:
If you want a 5.5" phone you should be looking at the Note line, this is not a phablet.
How is 3GB not enough? What other phone has more?
The camera has stood out for a while, most people uses cases so it won't be a big deal.
True, but many of us don't need more than 128GB of storage on a phone.
Only the bottom edge looks like an iPhone 6, what else looks like it?
Sounds like you should buy a Casio G'Zone and put it in a Lifeproof case.
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The whole phone but the button. That's a Samsung in a iPhone.
the_rooter said:
The whole phone but the button. That's a Samsung in a iPhone.
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The iPhone doesn't have a glass back, the front doesn't look remotely the same, especially the edge, I think people see the bottom with very similar design that mocks the bands of the iPhone and immediately say the phone copies the iPhone.
geoff5093 said:
The iPhone doesn't have a glass back, the front doesn't look remotely the same, especially the edge, I think people see the bottom with very similar design that mocks the bands of the iPhone and immediately say the phone copies the iPhone.
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The older phones did. Your in denial if you don't see it. Samsung steals from Apple and Apple steals from Samsung. All these visual casing specs screams iPhone. The bottom half is the iPhone 6+, the glass back is the older iPhone. Lack of expandable SD screams apple. Shall I continue? Samsung sees how apple sells off crap and they are doing the same thing. I see 3 different versions of an IPhone in that pic. The only difference is the name Samsung is on the back. That's it.
the_rooter said:
The older phones did. Your in denial if you don't see it. Samsung steals from Apple and Apple steals from Samsung. All these visual casing specs screams iPhone. The bottom half is the iPhone 6+, the glass back is the older iPhone. Lack of expandable SD screams apple. Shall I continue? Samsung sees how apple sells off crap and they are doing the same thing. I see 3 different versions of an IPhone in that pic. The only difference is the name Samsung is on the back. That's it.
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If you consider older phones, like the 4 year old iPhone 4, you are going to find similarities... There are only so many different designs that a rectangular device can have.
geoff5093 said:
If you consider older phones, like the 4 year old iPhone 4, you are going to find similarities... There are only so many different designs that a rectangular device can have.
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Look everyone it's a samapple. Besides the main button in the front this looks 100% like the Samsung Galaxy 6. The 6 edge has curved edges. So take this same phone and curve the edges u get the op phone. Have a good night
it is enough to me I can't wait
I posted this on another thread but would like to add that the Chinese are going to smoke this phone. The new Lenovo's are just as good looking and better value and Meizu (with a cool $500m+ from Alibaba) will prove it. They already have a phone of similar dimensions and specs with a bigger screen. Here's my original post:
I'm having a hard time understanding what these phones offer for the price. I don't want or need Qhd. 1080p is perfect for me. I've not even looked at the M9 yet but I've read up on the S6. It's a great looking phone but my first problem is the Edge screen itself. How do you protect it? I don't care if it's Gorilla Glass 3 or 4, it will shatter. Simple. Samsung have essentially raised the screen above the bezels, so how do you protect it? The so called functionality of the Edge notifications is 'ho hum' in my opinion. My Nubia Z7 Max has that built into it's user optional split screen function with a standard screen. I love the looks, the new chip technology and many other things about the Edge but I'm simply not going to pay twice as much for 'innovations' that don't really have any advantage over phones that cost half the price.
It's obvious that 99% ranting have no technical background and can't see why Samsung did what they did and how it has set them so far apart from any other phone.
They kept the SD card and removable battery till technology caught up to the point where those 2 are not needed.
Battery = wireless charging + super fast charging when plugged in
SD card = bottleneck that has been removed. Now you can take 3 pictures in RAW format. A single picture is 25 MB. 3 pictures taken in RAW format saved in 1 second = 75mb. Using a SD card you'll be waiting and complaining Samsung software is slow when it is the SD card.
Storage is now super fast while everyone is stuck using last years slow storage.
In house processor that is faster than what is in any other phone.
Camera that out performs the iPhone
RAM that is faster than last years.
You'll be able to do more things at once on the phone without any slow downs.
You'll be able to install programs quicker. Open the camera quicker.
Themes so you don't have to look at the default touchwiz.
Comes with 115gb of cloud storage. Throw your pictures and videos into the cloud them move them to your computer / delete them when your done and have more room on your device.
This device is going to be the phone to be in 2015 and beyond since most companies will be asking Samsung for their products to put in inside their phones just to compete with the S6 and S7.
specs
does anyone have the radio bandwidths for the s6 edge? can't seem to find it anywhere
Sony Xperia X Performance Dual with dual-SIM card slots
NETWORK Technology
GSM / HSPA / LTE
LAUNCH Announced 2016, February
BODY Dimensions 144.8 x 71.1 x 7.6 mm (5.70 x 2.80 x 0.30 in)
Weight 165 g (5.82 oz)
SIM Optional Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
- IP68 certified - dust proof and water resistant over 1.5 meter and 30 minutes
DISPLAY Type
IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.0 inches (~66.9% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution
1080 x 1920 pixels (~441 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch
Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection
Scratch-resistant glass, oleophobic coating
- Triluminos display
- X-Reality Engine
PLATFORM
OS Android OS, v6.0.1 (Marshmallow)
Chipset
Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820
CPU Dual-core 2.2 GHz & dual-core 1.6 GHz
GPU Adreno 530
MEMORY
Card slot microSD, up to 200 GB (dedicated slot)
Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary
23 MP, f/2.0, 24mm, phase detection autofocus, LED flash
Features 1/2.3" sensor size, geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, HDR, panorama
Video [email protected]
Secondary
13 MP, f/2.0, 22mm, 1/3" sensor size, 1080p, HDR
SOUND
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
- High-Res audio
COMMS WLAN
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.2, A2DP, apt-X, LE
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS/ BDS (region dependent)
NFC Yes
Radio No
USB
microUSB v2.0, USB Host
FEATURES
Sensors Fingerprint, accelerometer, gyro, proximity, barometer, compass
Messaging
SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- Xvid/MP4/H.265 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WAV/Flac player
- Document viewer
- Photo/video editor
BATTERY
Non-removable Li-Ion 2700 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
maninder.email said:
Sony Xperia X Performance Dual with dual-SIM card slots
NETWORK Technology
GSM / HSPA / LTE
LAUNCH Announced 2016, February
BODY Dimensions 144.8 x 71.1 x 7.6 mm (5.70 x 2.80 x 0.30 in)
Weight 165 g (5.82 oz)
SIM Optional Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
- IP68 certified - dust proof and water resistant over 1.5 meter and 30 minutes
DISPLAY Type
IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.0 inches (~66.9% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution
1080 x 1920 pixels (~441 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch
Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection
Scratch-resistant glass, oleophobic coating
- Triluminos display
- X-Reality Engine
PLATFORM
OS Android OS, v6.0.1 (Marshmallow)
Chipset
Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820
CPU Dual-core 2.2 GHz & dual-core 1.6 GHz
GPU Adreno 530
MEMORY
Card slot microSD, up to 200 GB (dedicated slot)
Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary
23 MP, f/2.0, 24mm, phase detection autofocus, LED flash
Features 1/2.3" sensor size, geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, HDR, panorama
Video [email protected]
Secondary
13 MP, f/2.0, 22mm, 1/3" sensor size, 1080p, HDR
SOUND
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
- High-Res audio
COMMS WLAN
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.2, A2DP, apt-X, LE
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS/ BDS (region dependent)
NFC Yes
Radio No
USB
microUSB v2.0, USB Host
FEATURES
Sensors Fingerprint, accelerometer, gyro, proximity, barometer, compass
Messaging
SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- Xvid/MP4/H.265 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WAV/Flac player
- Document viewer
- Photo/video editor
BATTERY
Non-removable Li-Ion 2700 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
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Does it really not support Java?
I'm on hot waters for deciding a new phone. If this doesn't come to US and being able to be used on Verizon, that's where I'm making the jump for the Galaxy S7 Edge. I have everything dedicated towards my current phone, but being outdated is no fun. :/
@GigaSPX @0verdaflow Just buy unlocked and you are gonna be fine.
mirhl said:
@GigaSPX @0verdaflow Just buy unlocked and you are gonna be fine.
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Not without being on America's number one network.
If you mean you need CDMA I fear they give very few damns to something that adds complexity with no real gain.
Also, for your's sake (given you are posting on XDA, right?) you should avoid locked down cramped device.
Sent from my Xperia S using XDA Free mobile app
64GB model?
Hey I saw 64GB model of Xperia X in GSMarena specifications
Is it true and will Xperia X Performance have that too? cause that would be so awesome.
And it's not listed in Sony Mobile page also and I saw in Chinese Website in Taobao they mentioned about 64GB model, which is really awesome if they bring to the table cause I feel like it's a must since Android OS is taking like 9-10GB of internal storage.
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Hey I saw 64GB model of Xperia X in GSMarena specifications
Is it true and will Xperia X Performance have that too? cause that would be so awesome.
And it's not listed in Sony Mobile page also and I saw in Chinese Website in Taobao they mentioned about 64GB model, which is really awesome if they bring to the table cause I feel like it's a must since Android OS is taking like 9-10GB of internal storage.
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Both X and X Performance have 64GB version, but only dual sim model.
You can see it from white paper.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/xperia-x-performance-f8132-white-paper/
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/xperia-x-f5122-white-paper/
GigaSPX said:
I'm on hot waters for deciding a new phone. If this doesn't come to US and being able to be used on Verizon, that's where I'm making the jump for the Galaxy S7 Edge. I have everything dedicated towards my current phone, but being outdated is no fun. :/
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Giga,
Unfortunately, this phone WILL NOT work (at least not fully) on any CDMA networks/carriers........... Verizon, Sprint, & U.S. Cellular are all CDMA. The only major carriers that it WILL work on are the GSM ones............ T-Mobile or AT&T.
If you'd like more proof of this, then check here as I did. I have T-Mobile so for me it'll be fine. The only thing that's NOT fine is Sony taking F'ING FOREVER to release this d*mn phone! lol
You could always switch to T-Mobile too if you want. It just depends on your service area and how happy you are with Verizon. I had them before but I felt they charged too much, so I switched to T-Mobile and am VERY happy with them! You get more for less with them I feel. But like my sister lives in an area where T-Mobile is still not yet that strong (though this is changing rapidly IMO), and so she recently switched to Verizon and is very happy. But typically wherever I go I have a strong signal, especially since they recently cleared a Band 12 (700 MHz bandwidth spectrum) issue in my area. Now even indoors in like downtown (Chicago) area where before I had a low or no signal, it's now full strength! Plus if you switch they'll cover your early termination fees (if any) with Verizon.
I had the Z3 and it was the BEST phone ever! I recently got the S7 Edge and it's really nice but was too big IMO. Plus my fingers would accidentally sometimes hit stuff on the edge sides and activate/affect stuff on the screen like apps or video that I didn't intend to be touched. Maybe just takes some getting used to? So I switched to the regular S7 and yeah it's a great phone overall but due to me being unhappy with the physical home button, the sound quality and sound-related issues on this phone (crappy speaker, issues with connecting to portable amp/DACs) and lousy screen brightness (sucks under heavy sunlight), I am basically COUNTING THE DAYS until the X Performance is released! Sony phones are like the only ones left that I can stand at this point. lol
I wanted to give Samsung another chance after S5 (which I kept for like 4 days and returned cuz I couldn't stand it either lol), plus with all the promos they had like free Netflix etc I said F it. I love the promos, but now I feel stuck with the phone. I just hope Sony releases the X Performance by June as they said they would. I don't know why it's taking so long as everyone else has or will have released their phones by May (HTC 10). The only news we have is that the Xperia XA & X are to be released in the UK in early June (XA) and on May 20th (X). Lucky for them, though they are NOT getting the X Performance but we in the U.S. are.
Verizon and Snapdragon 820 Modem x12
Modem
Optional integrated X12 LTE
LTE Category 12/13
Up to 600 Mbps DL
Up to 150 Mbps UL
Global Mode
LTE FDD and TDD
WCDMA (DB-DC-HSDPA, DC-HSUPA)
EV-DO and CDMA 1x
GSM/EDGE
TD-SCDMA
I'm not familiar with the bands for verizon, but I'm pretty sure the new modem covers *all* broadbands even the unspecified ones programmable by software. I forgot where I saw this, but it looked really cool, anyways will those work?
I was checking Sony Mobile's US site tonight to see if there was an update on release dates and noticed that they had removed the fingerprint sensor from the specs list. I don't think it's ever had water resistance listed since I've been checking on updates. These features are both listed on Sony's Italian site. Why doesn't Sony want to succeed in the US? Who's going to pay probably $700+ for one of these? I guess I have to decide between the Z3 or a Z5 if I'm going to get a Sony phone. I was going to wait on the X Performance since it should be a little more durable, even though I don't think it looks as nice.
Hey Buggy,
Yeah you're right! And this is not even a WEEK after they'd added the fingerprint sensor TO the U.S. X Performance! Man, I love Sony's Xperia phones, but their marketing & sales people are f'ing stupid!! lol
The water resistance (IP65/68) is only available on the global/international model, which I am sure is the same as the Italian model. The U.S. model does NOT have this listed anywhere, so it won't have it either. This section from the int'l version's full specs page proves that even more so: "Durability
IP65/IP68 **; **: This service is not available in all variants or markets." So I am sure the U.S. variant won't have it (stupid Sony).
It sure DOES feel like they don't want to succeed, doesn't it? The ONLY good thing that the U.S. variant has that the other variants apparently do not is the inclusion of the QNovo Quick Charge 3.0 charger IN the box! So now, for the first time ever, Sony is giving us U.S. citizens something no other country is getting (wow! lol). If you go to the U.S. site you'll see it listed towards the bottom. But I'd still rather have water-resistance and a functioning fingerprint sensor.
I had the Z3 and it was the BEST phone I've ever had! I have the S7 now and yeah it's a great phone "overall" but once the X Performance comes out, I'm totally selling my S7 and getting the X Perf. F Samsung. lol No other phone out there does it for me. Only one that I'd even get is the HTC 10, but that would only be if I couldn't get the X Perf for some reason.
I actually really like the look of the Xperia X Performance. At first I didn't think I'd like it w/o the glass back, but actually, the graphite black and silver/white models have a brushed aluminum/hairline finish, which I LOVE. I'm super excited to get this phone! I even actually FOUND an online seller (who just happens to be located 10 min away from me......Chicago suburbs) who has the X Performance in all 4 colors available for pre-order right now. The company is called Expansys, and they have international locations all over the world. The U.S. Expansys site has the int'l (and yes better lol) version of the X Performance, so I pre-ordered it last week! If interested, go here to pre-order your own today! They have an A+ rating on the Better Business Bureau website, and I know of one person who's already ordered from them several times w/o any issues. Current release date for X Perf is 1st week of July. Hopefully that doesn't change (stupid Sony lol).
Well I think I've decided to just go with the Z3 or Z5(or the compact) for now and save a few hundred dollars. Sad that our choice for the new phone is a gimped version with a warranty or the no warranty international version with all the features(minus the quick charger). Does insurance like Square Trade cover phones without warranties?
I've enjoyed my HTC One M7 and wouldn't be looking for a new phone if I hadn't cracked it's screen. It still works just fine though, but it's given me an excuse to finally try a new brand and I've always thought Sony's were nice looking. I have a Tablet S that has worked well for me, even though Sony quickly abandoned it. The HTC 10 is also one of the only other phones I'd consider. Just hate that they ditched the distinctive front speakers. It now looks like a generic phone in front. I've never liked the looks of Samsung's UI or their phones...just too rounded. LG's V10 is nice, but too big.
Buggy,
You may (or may not) want to still get the XP after hearing what I have to say here. But either way (Z3, Z5, or XP), they are all great phones. The XP may not have the glass back of the Z-series, but for the most part it IS an improvement over both those phones. The XP has a better processor, the Snapdragon 820, which is more power-efficient than the Z5's 810 (40% more actually), and the slightly smaller screen adds to that 40% too. It has the same main camera sensor, but "improved algorithms" in the software to make for even better pictures, in addition to that "Predictive Hybrid Autofocus" feature which Sony has focused a great deal on. This official comparison review video of the Z5 vs. the X (X & XP have the SAME screen & camera) highlights some of the other improvements. But as the video points out, the main specs might be the same, but the software is apparently different. And the front camera apparently has better specs too. Watch it all if you like, but definitely watch 3:35-4:25 with regards to the screen brightness & color accuracy comparisons, and a little after that are the camera comparisons. To me, the XP is worth waiting for. But that's me. I have the S7 and the screen brightness on it sux a$$ under heavy sunlight, so I believe the XP will be better after watching that video. I'll be SHOCKED if the XP's brightness isn't higher than the S7's. I'll be comparing them both regarding that on the day I get the XP. lol Then there's this camera comparison b/t the XP, HTC 10, and Galaxy S7. For the first time EVER, Sony's smartphone camera BEATS Samsung's in quality and color accuracy while in auto mode! I don't believe this was the case even with the Z5. And this isn't even the final release version of the camera software either!
I have some good news regarding insurance on the unlocked XP. Not sure on Square Trade, but I have T-Mobile as my carrier, and they use Assurance for the phone insurance. I confirmed with TWO T-Mobile reps and ONE Assurance rep that as long as I register the XP on my T-Mobile account and keep paying the $8/mo insurance charge that Assurance WILL insure my unlocked XP phone, even though of course I'm NOT buying it from T-Mobile. This was VERY good news to hear! lol So now buying the (cheaper) int'l version makes even more sense.
Sounds like we think alike. I had the M8 and it was my SECOND favorite phone of all time, with the Z3 being #1 of course. lol That sux about your M7 screen, but yeah that was 3 years ago, so now maybe it IS time for an upgrade, especially if you have a cracked screen. I couldn't agree more on HTC's idiotic decision to remove the 10's bottom speaker and move it to the bottom side, and how it degraded the looks. They could've easily put that fingerprint sensor in front (which is NOT a physical button you can press by the way, which is a + IMO) on the back somewhere or the side like Sony does. I think they were trying emulate Samsung and Apple, which yes makes the phone look more generic. I hope the HTC 11 will see a return of the front-facing stereo speakers for HTC. That's one of the reasons I love Sony so much. They have not abandoned that speaker set up on their flagship phones, and they are still making a flagship-worthy phone that is NOT a phablet. I hate phablets (tried the S7 Edge.......too big IMO), so I'm glad Sony hasn't gone that route. If the XP wasn't coming out, I'd strongly consider the HTC 10 actually.
I too strongly considered the LG V10, mainly because LG put a premium amp/DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) chipset in the V10. It has the same chipset used in my $300 Oppo HA-2 portable amp/DAC. With a phone like that I wouldn't need the HA-2 in b/t my phone and headphones anymore, but again like you, I felt it was simply too big, so I passed, despite its great specs. And yes..... Samsung. lol Not a fan either of their UI or phones, though both have improved much in the last couple of years (I def like that they ditched the plastic-bodied phones finally, which I'm sure Sony and Apple had an influence on lol). The UI is still laggy IMO (downloads faster than my parents' Xperia Z1s ((2014)), but when jumping from app to app on the Z1s, I notice it loads up QUICKER than the S7, for real), the menu is less confusing than the S5's was but still not as simple as HTC's and Sony's, the stupid & awful-sounding lone bottom-facing speaker, the constant skipping when listening to music on it via the MicroUSB port (super annoying), and that physical home button: I hate them. lol I tried to give Samsung another chance, but although the phone is great in many respects & I got some sweet promos from buying it (i.e. 1 year of free Netflix HD streaming, etc), I have no desire at this point to keep it any longer than I have to.
I love Sony's Xperia phones the most, so whichever one you get will be great for sure.
RockStar2005 said:
Buggy,
You may (or may not) want to still get the XP after hearing what I have to say here. But either way (Z3, Z5, or XP), they are all great phones. The XP may not have the glass back of the Z-series, but for the most part it IS an improvement over both those phones. The XP has a better processor, the Snapdragon 820, which is more power-efficient than the Z5's 810 (40% more actually), and the slightly smaller screen adds to that 40% too. It has the same main camera sensor, but "improved algorithms" in the software to make for even better pictures, in addition to that "Predictive Hybrid Autofocus" feature which Sony has focused a great deal on. This official comparison review video of the Z5 vs. the X (X & XP have the SAME screen & camera) highlights some of the other improvements. But as the video points out, the main specs might be the same, but the software is apparently different. And the front camera apparently has better specs too. Watch it all if you like, but definitely watch 3:35-4:25 with regards to the screen brightness & color accuracy comparisons, and a little after that are the camera comparisons. To me, the XP is worth waiting for. But that's me. I have the S7 and the screen brightness on it sux a$$ under heavy sunlight, so I believe the XP will be better after watching that video. I'll be SHOCKED if the XP's brightness isn't higher than the S7's. I'll be comparing them both regarding that on the day I get the XP. lol Then there's this camera comparison b/t the XP, HTC 10, and Galaxy S7. For the first time EVER, Sony's smartphone camera BEATS Samsung's in quality and color accuracy while in auto mode! I don't believe this was the case even with the Z5. And this isn't even the final release version of the camera software either!
I have some good news regarding insurance on the unlocked XP. Not sure on Square Trade, but I have T-Mobile as my carrier, and they use Assurance for the phone insurance. I confirmed with TWO T-Mobile reps and ONE Assurance rep that as long as I register the XP on my T-Mobile account and keep paying the $8/mo insurance charge that Assurance WILL insure my unlocked XP phone, even though of course I'm NOT buying it from T-Mobile. This was VERY good news to hear! lol So now buying the (cheaper) int'l version makes even more sense.
Sounds like we think alike. I had the M8 and it was my SECOND favorite phone of all time, with the Z3 being #1 of course. lol That sux about your M7 screen, but yeah that was 3 years ago, so now maybe it IS time for an upgrade, especially if you have a cracked screen. I couldn't agree more on HTC's idiotic decision to remove the 10's bottom speaker and move it to the bottom side, and how it degraded the looks. They could've easily put that fingerprint sensor in front (which is NOT a physical button you can press by the way, which is a + IMO) on the back somewhere or the side like Sony does. I think they were trying emulate Samsung and Apple, which yes makes the phone look more generic. I hope the HTC 11 will see a return of the front-facing stereo speakers for HTC. That's one of the reasons I love Sony so much. They have not abandoned that speaker set up on their flagship phones, and they are still making a flagship-worthy phone that is NOT a phablet. I hate phablets (tried the S7 Edge.......too big IMO), so I'm glad Sony hasn't gone that route. If the XP wasn't coming out, I'd strongly consider the HTC 10 actually.
I too strongly considered the LG V10, mainly because LG put a premium amp/DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) chipset in the V10. It has the same chipset used in my $300 Oppo HA-2 portable amp/DAC. With a phone like that I wouldn't need the HA-2 in b/t my phone and headphones anymore, but again like you, I felt it was simply too big, so I passed, despite its great specs. And yes..... Samsung. lol Not a fan either of their UI or phones, though both have improved much in the last couple of years (I def like that they ditched the plastic-bodied phones finally, which I'm sure Sony and Apple had an influence on lol). The UI is still laggy IMO (downloads faster than my parents' Xperia Z1s ((2014)), but when jumping from app to app on the Z1s, I notice it loads up QUICKER than the S7, for real), the menu is less confusing than the S5's was but still not as simple as HTC's and Sony's, the stupid & awful-sounding lone bottom-facing speaker, the constant skipping when listening to music on it via the MicroUSB port (super annoying), and that physical home button: I hate them. lol I tried to give Samsung another chance, but although the phone is great in many respects & I got some sweet promos from buying it (i.e. 1 year of free Netflix HD streaming, etc), I have no desire at this point to keep it any longer than I have to.
I love Sony's Xperia phones the most, so whichever one you get will be great for sure.
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RockStar2005,
Thanks for your input and the tip on T-Mobile's insurance policy. I know I want a Sony phone, but I'm still so indecisive when there's quite a chunk of money involved. If the XP is over $700 are the improvements really worth $200-$300 more than a Z5 or Z3? Plus, how long is it really going to be before it's released here? Sony seems to be pushing back the release dates in Europe. Guess it will just give me more time to save up. lol
BuggyDub said:
RockStar2005,
Thanks for your input and the tip on T-Mobile's insurance policy. I know I want a Sony phone, but I'm still so indecisive when there's quite a chunk of money involved. If the XP is over $700 are the improvements really worth $200-$300 more than a Z5 or Z3? Plus, how long is it really going to be before it's released here? Sony seems to be pushing back the release dates in Europe. Guess it will just give me more time to save up. lol
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Buggy,
Not a problem. Thought you might find that information useful.
Yeah I understand. And you've got a cracked front screen to deal with as well. The price of the XP HERE in the U.S. will very likely be less than the price it goes for in other countries. We (the U.S.) don't charge VAT (Value-Added Tax) on imported products like other countries do, so that helps keeps the prices down. You may still pay a LOCAL tax, but not a VAT too. Just something to keep in mind.
I can't really tell you if it's "worth it" because you know my answer, but you may not feel the same way. Again, if I had a cracked screen I may not be so patient either. You could just buy the Z3 or Z5 then upgrade again when the XP is here, or at some point in the near future?
How long? That's a great question Buggy. lol Though Sony IMO makes the BEST phones, their marketing and sales departments are dumb as F. lol I mean, NO real ads for the Xperia smartphones here in the U.S.? No billboard or TV ads? Nope, but they do put those video ads up on YouTube! Of course, the reason why that's so dumb of them to do is that the only ppl who will see them are those who were gonna prob buy an Xperia phone anyway! lol You think if someone doesn't know about their phones they're gonna magically think to go to YouTube to watch their ad? And the ads aren't even that great typically, with one exception (see pics and especially the vid). They need more ads like this one that are personable, and also I think some ads with some big actors like George Clooney, Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, etc.
In countries like Sweden, Sony is just as big, if not bigger, than Samsung......and big surprise, they actually ADVERTISE there. lol But anyway, yes, the X got pushed back about 2 weeks, but I believe it will still come out in June. Now when it actually comes out HERE is another story. lol I wish I could tell you the XP will get released on time, but I don't know. Sony Mobile DID re-promote them all in the U.S. just yesterday (see link below, and videos too), but still, no dates were announced. I realize as time goes on that trying to make sense of their odd way of doing business is basically a waste of time. I'm just gonna wait for the phone, buy it, and hope they get their act together one day. lol
JUST saw this new article as I was typing this e-mail. Hopefully it means they are on schedule? Of course, I'm not buying the U.S. version anyway, but I figure the sooner either the U.S. or int'l version gets released, the sooner the U.S. will get both.
RockStar2005 said:
Buggy,
Not a problem. Thought you might find that information useful.
Yeah I understand. And you've got a cracked front screen to deal with as well. The price of the XP HERE in the U.S. will very likely be less than the price it goes for in other countries. We (the U.S.) don't charge VAT (Value-Added Tax) on imported products like other countries do, so that helps keeps the prices down. You may still pay a LOCAL tax, but not a VAT too. Just something to keep in mind.
I can't really tell you if it's "worth it" because you know my answer, but you may not feel the same way. Again, if I had a cracked screen I may not be so patient either. You could just buy the Z3 or Z5 then upgrade again when the XP is here, or at some point in the near future?
How long? That's a great question Buggy. lol Though Sony IMO makes the BEST phones, their marketing and sales departments are dumb as F. lol I mean, NO real ads for the Xperia smartphones here in the U.S.? No billboard or TV ads? Nope, but they do put those video ads up on YouTube! Of course, the reason why that's so dumb of them to do is that the only ppl who will see them are those who were gonna prob buy an Xperia phone anyway! lol You think if someone doesn't know about their phones they're gonna magically think to go to YouTube to watch their ad? And the ads aren't even that great typically, with one exception (see pics and especially the vid). They need more ads like this one that are personable, and also I think some ads with some big actors like George Clooney, Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, etc.
In countries like Sweden, Sony is just as big, if not bigger, than Samsung......and big surprise, they actually ADVERTISE there. lol But anyway, yes, the X got pushed back about 2 weeks, but I believe it will still come out in June. Now when it actually comes out HERE is another story. lol I wish I could tell you the XP will get released on time, but I don't know. Sony Mobile DID re-promote them all in the U.S. just yesterday (see link below, and videos too), but still, no dates were announced. I realize as time goes on that trying to make sense of their odd way of doing business is basically a waste of time. I'm just gonna wait for the phone, buy it, and hope they get their act together one day. lol
JUST saw this new article as I was typing this e-mail. Hopefully it means they are on schedule? Of course, I'm not buying the U.S. version anyway, but I figure the sooner either the U.S. or int'l version gets released, the sooner the U.S. will get both.
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Well, as my phone is still working, I have time to wait. I'm just impatient and I want a shiny new phone now! (even is it ends up being a year or two older than the latest thing)
You'd think with also being a music and movie company they'd have some celebrities who'd do commercials for them...or at least do more product placement in videos and movies Music videos would be good because they probably get watched by a lot more people than most movies, and repeatedly. I guess they did with the last James Bond movie but it's not nearly enough. It would be nice if they made more of an effort here in the US to market their phones. They need to quit gimping the US versions though, and maybe that's why they don't do much to promote them. They'd have more people going "BUT WHYYY?!?!?!?! THAT'S SO STUPID!!," like me.
Buggy,
Yeah your phone is working which is good, but I hear you on being impatient and wanting to replace it. I'm hoping the new US videos mean they're fully intending on releasing the XP on time (1st week of July!). It makes me nervous though that the X is supposed to come out on June 10th, yet the U.S. Sony Mobile site STILL does not have it listed for pre-order, neither does the international site. The UK Amazon site has it for pre-order though, but the U.S. Amazon site doesn't even have it listed period. I'm hoping that maybe Sony will just release them all at one time here in the U.S., but who the F knows? lol God do I wish I could just put my foot up Sony Mobile's idiot CEO's ass just once! lol
Yes, I would AND DO think that! They had the Sony-Erickson phone (whatever its name was) in Casino Royale, which came out 10 years ago! lol Not sure on Quantum of Solace, but SkyFall (2012) featured the original Xperia Z in it. Then came SPECTRE last year........ that's when they stopped featuring Xperia phones because Daniel Craig and director Sam Mendes didn't think it was "Bond-worthy". So instead I think they featured some watch instead. They did however do a Bond-related ad which actually DID get some U.S. TV time (shocking, I know lol) but only ran for maybe a month? lol It featured Moneypenny and was actually an ad for both the Z5 and their new camera at the time. Whatever........that movie wasn't anything special anyway. lol It was nice though to actually see an Xperia ad on TV though vs. online.
I've been saying in these various forums for months now.........you're SONY........get some big actors like George Clooney, Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, etc to do ads for you. DON'T make them generic or boring. Get a U.S. ad agency to do them perhaps. I mean, the last 2 actors I just mentioned have ALREADY DONE movies for Sony, so they already have an established relationship with them. I even wrote to Sony Mobile and told them to do this too. I mean, they should get like Sony Movies and Sony Music etc to invest some money into Sony Mobile too..................if SM features ads with these actors or musicians, it's a win-win for both parties. And yes, removing key features from the U.S. versions is inexcusable BS and needs to stop too. So frustrating. If I didn't love their phones to death (or hate the competing phones out there so much lol), I'd go elsewhere. I just hope the XP comes out on time. I mean, it's gotten so bad to where I'm literally checking out stuff daily. I even have a "Google Alerts" setup on the XP.........I get an e-mail every night right after midnight giving me updates on anything new that's related to it. lol Can't wait for this crap to be over with.
Buggy,
Major update:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_x...ws-18530.php
http://www.theverge.com/circui...availability
Pre-orders for XP begin June 19th, XP gets officially released on July 17th! Now, I think this is for the U.S. XP, which of course is somewhat lacking (no IP65/68, and I guess now they took the fingerprint sensor back off it), though it WILL come with the QNovo Quick Charge 3.0 charger. I though will be getting the int'l one, which I'm hoping will come out SOONER than the U.S. version? I know it will most likely be cheaper too, since the int'l Z5 is cheaper than the U.S. version is. But the fact that the U.S. one has a date at least means we have a better idea of when things will start to happen.
For now, I will keep my pre-order in place with Expansys, which is for the int'l one. They are located all over the world, but the U.S. one is like 10 minutes away from me (Chicago suburbs). But if U.S. Amazon gets the int'l one too by early July, then I'd rather just order from them.
RockStar2005 said:
Buggy,
Major update:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_x...ws-18530.php
http://www.theverge.com/circui...availability
Pre-orders for XP begin June 19th, XP gets officially released on July 17th! Now, I think this is for the U.S. XP, which of course is somewhat lacking (no IP65/68, and I guess now they took the fingerprint sensor back off it), though it WILL come with the QNovo Quick Charge 3.0 charger. I though will be getting the int'l one, which I'm hoping will come out SOONER than the U.S. version? I know it will most likely be cheaper too, since the int'l Z5 is cheaper than the U.S. version is. But the fact that the U.S. one has a date at least means we have a better idea of when things will start to happen.
For now, I will keep my pre-order in place with Expansys, which is for the int'l one. They are located all over the world, but the U.S. one is like 10 minutes away from me (Chicago suburbs). But if U.S. Amazon gets the int'l one too by early July, then I'd rather just order from them.
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Mind you there still is no information band support, nor is there info on finger print sensor or waterproofing.
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