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Has anyone noticed that the Galaxy Note is not as fast as it should be? I compared it to a Galaxy S II and the SII was just buttery smooth in terms of speed compared to the Note. The more I played around with the SII the more I noticed the speed and smoothness difference, and it confused me because the Note has a faster processor so it leaves me wondering why the Note is slower.
EDIT: I don't know if anyone else has noticed but there seems to be a very slight lag between input and the phone responding, for nearly everything. From swiping/scrolling to opening up apps, there just seems to be a bit of lag. The SII does not have this, that I can see. Everything is almost instant on it, as soon as you give input to the SII it responds.
Also, for those of you who are lucky enough to have upgraded to 2.3.6, is there a noticeable difference in terms of general speed and smoothness?
Exactly.........
Same i observed as well with d demo piece kept in the shop.
Note is bit lagging than the galaxy s2.
Please answer the question. Did firmware update 2.3.6 improved performance?
Can ICS update make it as smooth as s2 or nexus?
Thanks in advance.
I dont know wat u guys are talking about.. My notes smooth.. And i had owned a s2 before..
And relax, its the initial days of the note... More updates will come. And ics is only gonna make it better
Sorry but I have to disagree. I would say my Note is buttery smooth, insanely quick & responsive...
I've never owned the previous Galaxy S2 but have tried it in the shop and it's no way any quicker, infact it was choppy at times...
I take it it depends what apps you are running since certain apps are buggy and cause problems such as the device being sluggish at times?
My note has never lagged or been slow. I'm running the stock launcher. I tried others but did not like them.
List of installed apps:
Flash Player
File Manager
Viz Battery
Wallpaper Wizardrii
Smart Keyboard
Beautiful Widgets
Angry Birds (all three)
Yahoo Messenger
Msn Messenger
Skype
Barcode Scanner
MixZing
MX Video Player
Adobe Reader
Opera
Equalizer
I notice that the Android OS uses about double the display. Also when typing fast there is lag. I know about freezing apps, but ill just wait for custom ROMs.
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i am so pleased to hear this.....
i have not yet bought it, yesterday for the first time i saw a demo piece.
Dont know why but i found it bit laggy. Maybe beacuse the expectations with which i went there.
anyways will need to see another demo piece b4 so that can buy without a doubt...
Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
straxusii said:
Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
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of course we know that.........
i just want to know is it really slow than S2? (whatever may be the reason)
I still got 2.3.5 I'm very picky about speed in my phone, one thing I have noticed is that whenever memory gets really full the device suffers, say for example you launch the default browser and it's choppy, just try this: launch the task manager and do a clear memory from the ram tab.relauncb the browser and compare the speed, lighting fast!
I belive that it somehow loses the hardware acceleration at one point, so next time you guys try one specially at a demo stand, just clear the ram and give it a go.
Input lag is something I haven't noticed, what's more typing using SwiftKey is truly an experience! Zero lag and lighting speed! So I wouldn't worry much about it I'm pretty sure it has more to do with the early stage of the firmware than the lack of hardware to do it.
I truly belive speed is not an issue on this device,it's by no means perfect but it's definitely an experience using this screen with this power under the hood
Also I totally agree about the underrated s-pen people still don't realise that this is not just a piece of plastic with a fine tip, the pen is not crappy one like the horrible stylus on windows mobile phones, this pen uses a magnetic technology developed by wacom, what this means is a mix between accuracy an speed of capacitive touch also let's not forget that it can detect and separate between a normal finger press and pen press it had the potential of doing mouse hovering, not yet implemented on gingerbread drivers, also it finally brings pressure sensitive to the artist so it truly can be used as a sketched on the go!
Download if you want to try the app
Multitouch visualizer 2, so you can see how accurate the pressure and the pen itself is!
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The only reason S2 is faster is because it has a laughable super low res WVGA display. Low pixel counts = faster rendering time.
Hi,
Please check the attachment. It is the screenshot of my version on my galaxy note.
I bought my phone yesterday. I connected and and updated firmware using samsung kies software. Now the screen is lagging while scrolling. Please check and suggest something.
Thanks
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Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
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katyarevishal said:
of course we know that.........
i just want to know is it really slow than S2? (whatever may be the reason)
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dude he just said it
what more do you want to know?
gv.chaitanya8 said:
Hi,
Please check the attachment. It is the screenshot of my version on my galaxy note.
I bought my phone yesterday. I connected and and updated firmware using samsung kies software. Now the screen is lagging while scrolling. Please check and suggest something.
Thanks
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I just updated to DTB PDA KK9 and it feels smoother. Launcher Pro is not stuttering as it was. Battery life infinitely better. Still 50% after a long 16hr day of quite heavy use as opposed to 15% after 8hrs.
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Isn't the Note pushing twice the resolution of the GSII?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out folks
No lag on mine. Justas fast as any other device
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I've never owned the previous Galaxy S2 but have tried it in the shop and it's no way any quicker, infact it was choppy at times...
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Probably because it was a demo unit.
I'm running exact same setup on both SGS2 and the Note (Launcher Pro, Widget Locker, etc) and SGS2 definitely is noticeably smoother than the Note in UI operations
Hey guys...
So I want to love the note and think the spen with a tablet is just awesome. So I went to best buy today to play around. Have any of you played with the note in best buy? I ask because wow it was laggy. Noticeable shutters While swiping home screens; delays after trying to close out multi screen display, etc. Yet everyone on here says its super fast... I even disabled home screen widgets. On the flip side I'm considering a used iPad retina. I'm kinda tired of android. Currently have a nexus 7 which is fantastic but I need more functionality. The iPad just seems so polished from the gorgeous retina display to the more polished apps. I know multitude of people sold their iPad after using the note so I'd love to hear those opinions. Thanks for the help guys... Fwiw I'm an android guy at heart but the fragmentation of android makes me really appreciate apple lately... Their stuff is just smooth.
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Hey guys...
So I want to love the note and think the spen with a tablet is just awesome. So I went to best buy today to play around. Have any of you played with the note in best buy? I ask because wow it was laggy. Noticeable shutters While swiping home screens; delays after trying to close out multi screen display, etc. Yet everyone on here says its super fast... I even disabled home screen widgets. On the flip side I'm considering a used iPad retina. I'm kinda tired of android. Currently have a nexus 7 which is fantastic but I need more functionality. The iPad just seems so polished from the gorgeous retina display to the more polished apps. I know multitude of people sold their iPad after using the note so I'd love to hear those opinions. Thanks for the help guys... Fwiw I'm an android guy at heart but the fragmentation of android makes me really appreciate apple lately... Their stuff is just smooth.
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Don't base off your decision on BB's display model. I tried the same and it was super leggy.. I found gazillion things running and weird stuff people had tried on it or it could be anything but it was just unusable on the other hand iPad was normal (is it deliberate ?!?!) Anyhow, try buying one and play with it for about 2 weeks and then make a decision (you can always return it if you don't enjoy it - within X days policy)
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wow it was laggy. Noticeable shutters While swiping home screens; delays after trying to close out multi screen display, etc. Yet everyone on here says its super fast... I even disabled home screen widgets.
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Don't you think there would be a 100 page thread on the front page of the forum if that was true? There's a couple of user-made videos showing transitions, multiview in action, and multiple apps running that are floating around. Check those out. Below is a comparison review to the TF700 made by Lisa at MobileTechReview who's considered pretty thorough and unbiased. Personally I have over 100 apps loaded and have 30 widgets on my home pages and I don't have any lag. I will say when using S-Note in multiview there's a bit of lag when moving from the other open app to it but it's only noticeable because everything else is so fast comparatively. JB should fly on Exynos Quad with 2GB of RAM. Until the Nexus 10 comes out the Note is the fastest Android tablet on the market bar none.
On the flip side I'm considering a used iPad retina. I'm kinda tired of android.
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Apples and oranges (no pun intended). If you're only interested in consumption, browsing, and gaming the Note's features probably aren't a big deal for you. An iPad or Nexus 10 would serve you better because of their displays. If all I cared about was consumption I'd probably get the Nexus 10. I'm not a big fan of walled gardens so nothing Apple makes is on my shopping list.
Op answered his own question really. New Ipad is the opposite of more functionality..lmfao you will get way less as IOS isn't as versatile as android. Apple is cool and alot of good apps bit Android is superior by far,IMO. My first tablet was an ipad1. Used it over 2 yrs. Back then Ipad was only real good device out. Android tabs were lacking. Now, Android tablets are tons more capable of various tasks than a mere Ipad. I gave my Ipad to my 2yr. Old daughter. I now have 2 Nexus 7's, Note 10.1, and ipad1. I use to have a transformer prime also. Once i went android, tablet wise, there was no looking back.
dale_cooper said:
Hey guys...
So I want to love the note and think the spen with a tablet is just awesome. So I went to best buy today to play around. Have any of you played with the note in best buy? I ask because wow it was laggy. Noticeable shutters While swiping home screens; delays after trying to close out multi screen display, etc. Yet everyone on here says its super fast... I even disabled home screen widgets. On the flip side I'm considering a used iPad retina. I'm kinda tired of android. Currently have a nexus 7 which is fantastic but I need more functionality. The iPad just seems so polished from the gorgeous retina display to the more polished apps. I know multitude of people sold their iPad after using the note so I'd love to hear those opinions. Thanks for the help guys... Fwiw I'm an android guy at heart but the fragmentation of android makes me really appreciate apple lately... Their stuff is just smooth.
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Well I love iPads, have had every one usually on release day, same with iPhones, but I can also appreciate Android tablets, and while most Android tablets I've used to date have been disappointing (most recently the Asus Infinity), I have to say the Note 10.1 is a remarkable product. I haven't used the S pen much yet, but it does seem very capable. I'm running straight stock and don't notice much, if any, lag. The browsers could be a little faster at page rendering, but all in all from an overall perspective it's plenty fast.
I have to agree with you about iOS apps being more polished, they truly are, but android apps keep getting better and better. The nice thing I like about android is that it's a lot more flexible and I'm a geek at heart, so all the widgets and stuff are really cool. The Note takes that to a whole new level with the pop up apps, side by side windows and s pen functionality.
I also love the display, I think it's awesome, the front facing speakers are also a very unique feature. It's hard to compete with the audio quality out of an iPhone / iPad, but this Note's speakers are stellar.
My Note is a little on the creaky side, but I'll leave that for nit-pickers So far I love mine and the pro's far outweigh the con's.
kevroc said:
Well I love iPads, have had every one usually on release day, same with iPhones, but I can also appreciate Android tablets, and while most Android tablets I've used to date have been disappointing (most recently the Asus Infinity), I have to say the Note 10.1 is a remarkable product. I haven't used the S pen much yet, but it does seem very capable. I'm running straight stock and don't notice much, if any, lag. The browsers could be a little faster at page rendering, but all in all from an overall perspective it's plenty fast.
I have to agree with you about iOS apps being more polished, they truly are, but android apps keep getting better and better. The nice thing I like about android is that it's a lot more flexible and I'm a geek at heart, so all the widgets and stuff are really cool. The Note takes that to a whole new level with the pop up apps, side by side windows and s pen functionality.
I also love the display, I think it's awesome, the front facing speakers are also a very unique feature. It's hard to compete with the audio quality out of an iPhone / iPad, but this Note's speakers are stellar.
My Note is a little on the creaky side, but I'll leave that for nit-pickers So far I love mine and the pro's far outweigh the con's.
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Really appreciate the thoughtful replies and not flaming me - started the thread while in the theater waiting for Argo to start (excellent movie by the way), realized I rambled a little bit.
Anyways, Demandarin - I never thought about that but it's really true, the ipad is a media consumption device for the most part while the note's hardware (and software) enable functional tasks to be performed.... So if I want functionality beyond really smart/polished apps (which iOs does have), note is the correct choice.
I had the first ipad, sold it cuase I didn't use it much. Had an OG transformer with dock, sold that cause I didn't use it much. I don't use my nexus 7 much but because it was so cheap I don't feel as bad. The problem is that my laptop is slim and portable so its always on the couch with me and I end up not using a tablet. The note though is advanced enough to where I think I would use it alot - in fact I want to get rid of my laptop (and have a mac mini as the "computer" in the house).
It was interesting as I was in best buy this older guy who had no idea about tablets was looking at the note vs the ipad. I'm thinking man there is no way that guy should get the note, there's just too much going on for the average user compared to the simplicity of the ipad . It's also interesting how the ipad runs in full demo mode practically, everything is locked down and apps are demo's - because of this its smooth and perfect. I figured the note was overloaded with crap as you guys said... its really a shame because if I was a general consumer like that guy, I would've been like man this note is a piece of CRAP (due to lag and the downright CLUSTER of widgets on the homescreens).
I'm gonna go ahead and try the note - the s-pen and split screen is so useful to me (I can see me doing both all the time).
You sound like compulsive gadget buyer.
Do you really need the note and not just want it?
makanimike said:
You sound like compulsive gadget buyer.
Do you really need the note and not just want it?
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Lol... does it matter?
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I dunno. For you to decide.
It's just that you have tried tablets three times, and three times you end up not using them.
Aa for the original question: I can confirm there is no lag on a non-abused note. I used apex launcher for two days but switched back to stock touchwiz cause for me apex was laggy
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the s-pen and split screen is so useful to me (I can see me doing both all the time).
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It's also a great device for people with ADD...
Could be bc it was plugged in...
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gmfeny said:
Could be bc it was plugged in...
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A very good conclusion
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gmfeny said:
Could be bc it was plugged in...
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I don't know why some people are having touch response issues when their devices are plugged in. Mine doesn't act any differently one way or the other and it probably spends have the time I use it plugged in via the universal dock. A couple of people on the One X forum where having the same issue but they are way in the minority. It doesn't seem like something with the device itself; if it were I'd imagine we'd be seeing a lot more comments from owners.
I never realized it until it was mentioned here. I thought it was bc i have a screen protector.
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As long as I have unit plugged into a surge protector...no problems. Without surge, it acts differently. Not sure if this would make a difference but maybe try this and see if it helps those who are having issues.
It's really risky to try stuff at stores. Chances are that the device has been used by hundreds of people without a reboot, so RAM may be completely depleted and so much in the cache partition that would confuse the device. Apps in the background can for sure make it laggy. My advice is go back and ask them clear the RAM and reboot if possible. If the iPad ran perfectly, maybe it was because nobody was playing with it and and the most popular device was just exhausted
I've used iPads before and up to a month or so ago I had my iPad2. It's a very entertaining OS, but you get tired of it very quickly; I only had it for 5 months. I bought with the excuse that the apps on iOS have more development that its counterpart in Android. And to a point it is true, but the hype gets dull very quickly.
I will confess that I'm a sort of compulsive buyer and buy things without really needing them. Just this year I've had and sold about 3 tablets beside the 3 I currently possess. If you buy the Note 10.1, I don't think you will regret it. For the first time this year I see myself keeping this one for a long time. You will not miss the iOS exclusive like Infinity Blade and tweetbot, and better facebook and twitter apps. I will not lie to you, the iOS is butter smooth, Android doesn't feel like that yet; but that should not be enough reason for not getting all the other perks...
I'm gonna try to scoop one up on craigslist... however I'm VERY intrigued to see what the nexus 10 pricing will be.
My SGN10.1 was initially full of lag as well.
What I found works is this. If you snap off the back plate you will see what looks like a screw cap. Carefully unscrew that and pour the lag into an empty jar. There is a lot of lag in there so the jar may be about half full before you are done. Once you have poured out all the lag screw the lid back on the jar and dispose of it in a hazmat safe landfill. Lag is carcinogenic so please avoid touching it.
Many people do not realize this but SGN10.1 units which have been manufactured in colder climates actually add the lag as an antifreeze. It is supposed to evaporate once the tablet is exposed to a warmer climate but occasionally it does not and the owner must pour it out manually.
Hope that helps. Once the lag has been removed your SGN10.1 should perform much better.
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My SGN10.1 was initially full of lag as well.
What I found works is this. If you snap off the back plate you will see what looks like a screw cap. Carefully unscrew that and pour the lag into an empty jar. There is a lot of lag in there so the jar may be about half full before you are done. Once you have poured out all the lag screw the lid back on the jar and dispose of it in a hazmat safe landfill. Lag is carcinogenic so please avoid touching it.
Many people do not realize this but SGN10.1 units which have been manufactured in colder climates actually add the lag as an antifreeze. It is supposed to evaporate once the tablet is exposed to a warmer climate but occasionally it does not and the owner must pour it out manually.
Hope that helps. Once the lag has been removed your SGN10.1 should perform much better.
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Before I go to the hazmat safe landfil, should I change the blinker fluid on my car? :laugh::good:
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My SGN10.1 was initially full of lag as well.
What I found works is this. If you snap off the back plate you will see what looks like a screw cap. Carefully unscrew that and pour the lag into an empty jar. There is a lot of lag in there so the jar may be about half full before you are done. Once you have poured out all the lag screw the lid back on the jar and dispose of it in a hazmat safe landfill. Lag is carcinogenic so please avoid touching it.
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Mine is a little too fast. Is it safe to pour some of the lag in?
Finally got some play time on the HTC One, and coming from a Nexus 4, the One felt dated to me. The Sense UI just kills the One. I didn't realize how modern Jellybean 4.2.2 feels compared to Sense until I spent time with them side by side. The One's hardware fit and finish are nice but I can't say it feels any more premium than the Nexus 4. In my hands, the Nexus glass body feels more comfortable than the aluminum on the One. Speedtest results (LTE) were little below average compared to other devices I tested but not dismal.
The One has some nice features (1080p, IR remote, dual front speakers, NFC, LTE) and if it can be flashed with stock Jellybean while keeping those features working, it would be so much better.
Just wanted to share a few thoughts about the One. I went in to buy the One but came back with a renewed appreciation for the Nexus.
Go home, you're drunk.
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Finally got some play time on the HTC One, and coming from a Nexus 4, the One felt dated to me. The Sense UI just kills the One. I didn't realize how modern Jellybean 4.2.2 feels compared to Sense until I spent time with them side by side. The One's hardware fit and finish are nice but I can't say it feels any more premium than the Nexus 4. In my hands, the Nexus glass body feels more comfortable than the aluminum on the One. Speedtest results (LTE) were little below average compared to other devices I tested but not dismal.
The One has some features (IR remote, dual front speakers, NFC, LTE) and if it can be flashed with stock Jellybean while keeping those features working, it would be so much better.
Just wanted to share a few thoughts about the One. I went in to buy the One but came back with a renewed appreciation for the Nexus.
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sell your phone please to us....
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Go home, you're drunk.
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Yay apparently going to a phone with LTE is going backwards! :silly:
So LG is paying people to come on sites and say this stuff now too?
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I went in to buy a new IPhone after coming from an Iphone and.........
One of the great things about Android is choice. We have Nexus devices, Sense, Touchwiz, and lots of launchers and skins.....gotta Love it. Rubin and Duarte are fans of skins and overlays as well. El goog even praised Facebook home as an example of what is possible with open source.
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He's right about the sens UI part..
Why isn't this closed yet?
Choices are great to have, I agree. I loved my OG HTC EVO which had an older version of Sense. But with the improvements Google has made with stock Android, Sense didn't seem that great to me. For example, the stock icon layouts didn't take advantage of the nice 1080 resolution display, only 3 icons across with huge gaps between them.
Anyhow I'm just sharing my initial impression of the HTC One. After reading all the glorious reviews of the One I had higher expectations.
Good thread, would read again.
Lol sucks to have your brain.
He's just jelly, it's his friends phone lol.
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Finally got some play time on the HTC One, and coming from a Nexus 4, the One felt dated to me. The Sense UI just kills the One. I didn't realize how modern Jellybean 4.2.2 feels compared to Sense until I spent time with them side by side. The One's hardware fit and finish are nice but I can't say it feels any more premium than the Nexus 4. In my hands, the Nexus glass body feels more comfortable than the aluminum on the One. Speedtest results (LTE) were little below average compared to other devices I tested but not dismal.
The One has some nice features (1080p, IR remote, dual front speakers, NFC, LTE) and if it can be flashed with stock Jellybean while keeping those features working, it would be so much better.
Just wanted to share a few thoughts about the One. I went in to buy the One but came back with a renewed appreciation for the Nexus.
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Don't agree.
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The bloke is perfectly entitled to express his personal opinion and I'm in total agreement about his views on sense vs stock - that's just my preference.
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Finally got some play time on the HTC One, and coming from a Nexus 4, the One felt dated to me. The Sense UI just kills the One. I didn't realize how modern Jellybean 4.2.2 feels compared to Sense until I spent time with them side by side. The One's hardware fit and finish are nice but I can't say it feels any more premium than the Nexus 4. In my hands, the Nexus glass body feels more comfortable than the aluminum on the One. Speedtest results (LTE) were little below average compared to other devices I tested but not dismal.
The One has some nice features (1080p, IR remote, dual front speakers, NFC, LTE) and if it can be flashed with stock Jellybean while keeping those features working, it would be so much better.
Just wanted to share a few thoughts about the One. I went in to buy the One but came back with a renewed appreciation for the Nexus.
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I buy HTC devices because of Sense. If the One came without sense I would have bought the S4. I have tried AOSP roms but I come screaming back to sense within minutes, they are just too limited, too spartan.
Stock android is so highly over rated it is unreal.
The only main thing that I love about it, is the stock android theme. Less amount of apps preinstalled is a bonus too
For me sense is superior to stock for these reasons:
- the apps kick ass especially the camera (zoe, more options and filter effects to choose from and a nicer, more functional UI), gallery (live tiles/thumbnails plus other wee things like being able to take a photo of a moment in video playback and even more effects) and browser app (text reflow when you pinch to zoom and double tap, modified quick thumb controls that are pure win, flash player, fast and smooth and most importantly it renders text and web sites correctly)
- unified feel, no skin can match sense in this area (aside from possibly motorola's newest skin), everything feels unified throughout, same colour scheme and same layout unlike stock; dialer has the black/blue theme, SMS and calendar etc. has the white theme, play music has a blue theme, clock has a grey theme, the menu button placement is either on the bottom or the top and then the settings menu has a holo theme throughout, minor things but damn annoying for me
If you really want stock android look without having to root, you can install the following:
stock android keyboard
stock Alarm clock
Stock SMS app
Dialer with this theme
Stock calendar
stock camera & Gallery
Nova launcher prime with the built in stock android icons
Lock screen (can get the stock lock screen theme/UI)
Stock (CM10) calculator
Multi-tasking window
And disable whatever you don't like about sense through the app settings.
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Stock android is so highly over rated it is unreal.
The only main thing that I love about it, is the stock android theme. Less amount of apps preinstalled is a bonus too
For me sense is superior to stock for these reasons:
- the apps kick ass especially the camera (zoe, more options and filter effects to choose from and a nicer, more functional UI), gallery (live tiles/thumbnails plus other wee things like being able to take a photo of a moment in video playback and even more effects) and browser app (text reflow when you pinch to zoom and double tap, modified quick thumb controls that are pure win, flash player, fast and smooth and most importantly it renders text and web sites correctly)
- unified feel, no skin can match sense in this area (aside from possibly motorola's newest skin), everything feels unified throughout, same colour scheme and same layout unlike stock; dialer has the black/blue theme, SMS and calendar etc. has the white theme, play music has a blue theme, clock has a grey theme, the menu button placement is either on the bottom or the top and then the settings menu has a holo theme throughout, minor things but damn annoying for me
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It really is a personal preference and so he should be able to express his own opinion thus I don't really understand why people are bashing him. It's not like the Nexus 4 is a iphone3gs or something. I feel like his opinion is reasonable. I have always liked how sense has looked and felt (smoothness scrolling compared to stock android) and all that but it definitely is something you have to get used to. I definitely prefer sense over that samsung junk they call touchwiz and all that but stock is nice! although yes it might be a little overrated, it's still nice! But I have to agree with on that three icon thing... it just doesn't really make sense. I'm not really feeling the menus but I will have to wait til I actually get the phone, whenever the preorder fiasco finally works out..
Anyways, to each their own.
Yeah stock android is great. That's why there are hundreds of replacements in Play Store for every single element of it.
I sort of agree with his post. Just picked up my One this morning and it feels dated even compared to my HTC Evo 3D in terms of UI. It seems to be less customizable than my EVO 3D running stock sense for some reason. It seems like HTC is going with Microsoft "simple is better" approach.
I already miss the physical settings button my EVO 3D had. I also don't like how the power/volume buttons are flush with the body. The buttons should protrude a bit imo... but I suppose these are things I'll get used to it in time.
A problem I've been noticing so far is I'm losing home screen settings. For example I add all 5 home screens to expand the default 3, arranged my icons, widgets etc. This is now the second time where it randomly gets reset and I've lost settings. Now I have to go back and add the additional home screens/apps/widgets etc.
When I finished setting up the phone, storage use already showed 9GB out of 32GB before I even transferred my data (apps/music/photos/etc). Why is it using 9GB of storage out of the box?
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Yup, all personal preference the software, just to clear things up, I wasn't bashing his opinion at all , just stating that I think stock is highly over rated, I always see people saying things like "stock android is 100 times better than everything", "never buying a non-nexus device again", review sites much preferring it to the OEM skins etc. it is good but it isn't "that" good imo.
Indeed, touchwiz is just awful, nice features etc. but everything else is a joke, completely disjointed feel throughout, horrible colour scheme, overall it just feels like a 10 year old has designed it.
All HTC need to do imo is go with a nice holo/dark theme instead of mostly white and drop some of the pointless apps, widgets.
All google need to do is sort the unified feel out (most people have already done this here for them) and add more features/options plus bring the old browser back! chrome is trash imo.
Hello I created this thread to share each of our thoughts, opinions, and feelings about the device so far.
I'll start.
Pro's
So far I really like this device. The screen display is the best I've seen so far.
One of the best features is multi tasking. The screen size makes perfect sense for doing so compared smartphones.
The main reason I ordered this tablet is because of college. Reading articles and textbooks are great due to 1080p display and it's pixels per inch.
My magazine/flipboard is a great integration into touchwiz ui even thought it feels laggy at first.
Con's
Though this is branded as a high spec device, I did notice some minor lag which doesn't bother me to much. But for a high end device and it's asking price, it's unexceptional!
Missing certain note 3 features like nfc, usb3.0
Physical buttons personally isn't the best idea. When I use this device in portrait mode, my fingers sometimes might hit them.
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Anyone want to share your impressions and experience about the device so far?
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Pros
- SPen
- Multi Windows Feature
- Hardwarekeys
Cons
- very hot around the camera (in Potrait Mode its to warm for me, on the other side is the home button)
- lags are often (Chrome, Firefox extremly. other Browser ok but not for a tablet for this price)
Agree almost entirely with op. Hopefully custom toms get rid of lag.
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I'm coming from the TF700, so I'm in heaven.
My pro's, beside not having extreme lag like my Infinity, are the screen and, also, the feel. The TF700 used to dig into my hands when I was holding it between my thumb and forefinger. This device is smoother on my fingers; when I hold the device in the same way, the device doesn't cut into my hands.
My cons are basically using Touchwiz (this is my first Sammy-d, so I have to become adjusted and figure out where to go to adjust settings and what-not. I also don't care for the physical buttons, because I'm constantly changing from portrait to landscape, and vice-verse.
But, overall...I'm very happy; I'll put up with the little things as long as I have a tablet that will do what I tell it to do, instead of waiting for an eternity.
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Pros: screen is awesome. S pen seems better than original, stock video player does better job with media server
Con's: Listening to all the people who probably do not even own the device talk about lag!
I propose that you have to prove ownership of note 2014 to post a complaint about lag AND show video proof.
Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween
Just to let you know the resolution is higher than 1080P.
I agree with Most of your list though
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Pros:
-Display (as everyone has already mentioned).
-Design is sleek and much more comfortable and easy to handle than the previous model. I love the hard buttons and it works well with me. One issue I have heard about though is that the main menu button isn't receded so sometimes when pressure is applied to a case around that area it will wake up the tablet. As I don't have a case yet I can't confirm that this is an issue, but I believe just be running my finger over the button.
-S Pen (for the most part)
-And despite what many have said this thing is generally very fast. It's only within some applications that it gets a little laggy and I'm hoping that this will improve with software updates.
Cons:
-Mainly the software. I hate the new S Note. So much in fact, that I purchased Lecture Notes without having received my galaxy perks (which I"m still waiting on actually). Also I was a little disappointed that the air command wasn't customizable as I had heard it would be (or maybe I just haven't figured out how to do that yet). Taking screen shots with the lasso and s-button seems slower than it was in the older model, but I love that there are more options to shape the outline more cleanly.I'd also really love to be able to uninstall or disable some of the bloatware, like mymagazines. I'm sure it's a great app, but I personally have no need for it.
-There are hardly any accessories out for this baby yet. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with a case.
-The back of the tablet gets a little warm, but not so warm to the point where I'd be concerned about it. I've had laptops that would get uncomfortably hot so maybe I've just been desensitized to this issue.
And the biggest problem I've had with this thing... the thing that has actually made me consider returning it is the customer service. I have not gotten my perks yet and contacted them several times only to get the run around. Each time I called back I found out that they had taken my information incorrectly and I honestly feel like they were toying with me. I spoke with one rep who seems more genuine than the others and said I should get them by Thursday so I'm holding out hope. There is no way I'll take this thing back, but if I dont' get my perks I may reach out to a friend who works for samsung in Korea. It'd be an awkward convo though cause I haven't spoken to the guy in years.... 대한민국!
May be off topic (I am not writing a review) but I think 'lag' in general on this device is unacceptable. If you're advertising a powerhouse piece of technology and it stutters in an internet browser then something is wrong. Using a different launcher to reduce 'lag' is also unacceptable as it shouldn't even be there in the first place! Hopefully new firmware irons out the kinks (I'm sure the lag isn't tablet-related as it just needs some optimization)
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Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween
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As someone with both the this device and an HTC one, I can say that the note certainly lags more. It's not something that's major, but it's certainly noticeable if your coming from something smoother.
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Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween
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I recorded a video on my crappy iphone, but i can't transfer it and i refuse to install that memory hog of crap itunes to get to it. I should be getting a note 2 in the next couple of weeks so i'll take a video then. is there anything in particular that you wanted me to do on it?
I admittedly dont' do too much on it besides browsing and taking notes. The worst I've seen the lag is when I have a webbroswer open and I'm writing in lecture notes. the writing shows up a second after i've written something and that is a bit annoying. Over all though I think people are being too critical of the lag. It's not so bad that it's keeping me from working on it (with the exception of using split screen between lecture notes and the default browser.
Besides for this tablet it's all about the s pen. if it wasn't for that i wouldn't have bothered with a tablet at all. I think smart phones are good for when you're on the move and if i'm going to sit down to watch a movie or do some gaming... well that's what i've got my laptop for. I don't live in a big city with good public transportation, but i could easily see myself just using my phone to watch a movie on a train or bus. I wouldn't bring out a tablet for that even if I owned one.
Sitting next to my rooted S3 running AOSP 4.3 it's a bit laggier. That's undeniable, IMO, and I'd argue that it's because of Samsung's bloated OS additions. It's not a device problem, I don't think.
However... I could not possibly care less. It's attractive, feels AMAZING in the hands (why is everyone complaining about the back?? I don't even want a case!!), the speakers are burly, the screen is superb, the stylus with the art apps can make stuff that looks like it was tone with a Wacom tablet, the cameras are SURPRISINGLY solid, it multi-tasks more like a PC than any tablet I've ever seen, and it's just... a joy to use.
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I recorded a video on my crappy iphone, but i can't transfer it and i refuse to install that memory hog of crap itunes to get to it. I should be getting a note 2 in the next couple of weeks so i'll take a video then. is there anything in particular that you wanted me to do on it?
I admittedly dont' do too much on it besides browsing and taking notes. The worst I've seen the lag is when I have a webbroswer open and I'm writing in lecture notes. the writing shows up a second after i've written something and that is a bit annoying. Over all though I think people are being too critical of the lag. It's not so bad that it's keeping me from working on it (with the exception of using split screen between lecture notes and the default browser.
Besides for this tablet it's all about the s pen. if it wasn't for that i wouldn't have bothered with a tablet at all. I think smart phones are good for when you're on the move and if i'm going to sit down to watch a movie or do some gaming... well that's what i've got my laptop for. I don't live in a big city with good public transportation, but i could easily see myself just using my phone to watch a movie on a train or bus. I wouldn't bring out a tablet for that even if I owned one.
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Seems a lot of us sometimes forget the TRUE bottleneck of Android: The byte code Dalvik layer. This type of coding is not exactly multithread friendly and IMO seems amazing as good as the current passive cooled chipsets can do what they already do. Case in point, I never would have thought back in the G1 days emulators would be as efficient (MAME, PSX, PSP, N64). Then again, those apps are designed to not be multi-tasked.
IMO the issue is not as much the hardware or OE rom, but the platform itself as far as having global impact to software. iOS is not much better and ALSO lags. Such is the price of balance: Platform security (iOS andDalvik constraints), passive cooled devices, battery efficiency, etc.
Pros: Beautiful screen
feel and weight in your hand (compared to the previous version - which wasn't bad either)
S-Pen is less laggy and the finer screen allows for more precise writing/drawing
Cons: S-Note. I want the old version back.
Physical buttons. I really miss the natural "awareness" of where they are as compared to the old one where they were always at the
bottom of the screen.
Battery life isn't as nice as the first (alot more pixels to push I guess)
Lack of accessories (I'd really like a case)
Lack of root. I REALLY miss the 'add anything' multiwindow support'
I've waited a long time for a note 10.1 with this resolution but I'm considering returning it
I returned mine to BB. For a high end device and the associated high price I didn't find the performance acceptable. Hoping for this or that doesn't cut it for me. If it doesn't perform up to expectations out of the box, it goes back. I'll keep using my better performing Nexus 10 until version 2 of that device comes out.
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Count me among the disappointed... I got mine on launch day, and it's slower than last year's note 10.1.
New S Note is inexplicable.
Occasionally it hangs up and is unresponsive for at least a minute. (Happened in my beloved Lecturenotes as well as others)
Try this for a demo of the lag, I use LectureNotes with double tap zoom mode... open a note, double tap to enable zooming, pinch to zoom to 200%. Now double tap again to zoom back to 100% and watch it stutter. You can keep double tapping to switch between 100% and 200% and see the terrible lag. Do the same on last year's note 10.1 to compare.
It's not good enough. I expected this to be an upgrade!
I love the display, I love the more compact form factor, and I'll get used to the new buttons eventually.
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Count me among the disappointed... I got mine on launch day, and it's slower than last year's note 10.1.
New S Note is inexplicable.
Occasionally it hangs up and is unresponsive for at least a minute. (Happened in my beloved Lecturenotes as well as others)
Try this for a demo of the lag, I use LectureNotes with double tap zoom mode... open a note, double tap to enable zooming, pinch to zoom to 200%. Now double tap again to zoom back to 100% and watch it stutter. You can keep double tapping to switch between 100% and 200% and see the terrible lag. Do the same on last year's note 10.1 to compare.
It's not good enough. I expected this to be an upgrade!
I love the display, I love the more compact form factor, and I'll get used to the new buttons eventually.
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Key words: launch day. I know it's ****ty that a new device gets rolled out with imperfect software, but that's what this is. An update or two and this will be perfect. The 10.1, by the time we all upgraded, had a lot of updates to it that ironed out its issues.
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Key words: launch day. I know it's ****ty that a new device gets rolled out with imperfect software, but that's what this is. An update or two and this will be perfect. The 10.1, by the time we all upgraded, had a lot of updates to it that ironed out its issues.
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You're probably right, but it's shameful that the new note is slower than the old one, launch day or not.
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You're probably right, but it's shameful that the new note is slower than the old one, launch day or not.
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There's a few culprits here.
1) Software just plain isn't optimized for all the cores. Think about the tech advances from the old G1 to now. Are our devices now as much faster, proportionally speaking, as they are more powerful? Not by a long shot.
2) Was the launch day 10.1 2012 faster? I don't think. But that goes back to what I said earlier.
3) I feel like the new OS is just bloated as all hell. The device isn't slower, the burly Touchwiz is. It's like getting a brand new laptop and it takes longer to start: the PC isn't the problem, it's the new Windows.
I've never owned an electronic device of any medium that makes me so bipolar. My previous phone which I still have is a cracked Nexus 5 which compelled me to go and get the AT&T Note 5.
On one hand I absolutely LOVE the hardware. It is the most premium feeling handset I've owned by a large margin. The display is by far the most beautiful of any medium. The audio quality from the aux is leagues better than the Nexus 5. The camera crushes the Nexus 5. No more do I have to make sure the camera is focused. It's an amazing point and shoot camera. It's sleek, beautiful and stunning.
And then we are left with the software... WTF Samsung. Apparently this beast is running the fastest mobile SOC currently on the planet along with 4 gigs of RAM, yet for some reason my Nexus 5 hardly ever dips below 60 fps with animations and scrolling while the Note 5 lags like hell. I don't know how much I can attribute this to a higher resolution display, but it's pretty pathetic how a two year old device is smoother than the alleged current king of mobile processing. Hangouts is almost unbearable on this device. Yes, I know the new hangouts has lag however it wasn't nearly this bad on the Nexus. The only area hangouts lagged on the Nexus was group messaging when scrolling up and down the message chain. Chrome lags during scrolling and no it didn't lag on the Nexus. Play Music lags. I installed Google Now launcher because I like the easy accessibility to Google Now and the LAUNCHER LAGS!! I've hadn't experienced a launcher lagging since I owned an HTC Thunderbolt. So many changes to the UI for just the sake of change. I open the app drawer for the first time and almost fainted. WTF are 80% of these apps? I also miss Google's dialer. I really do miss searching for businesses in the dialer. Then there are the subjective elements that I can't stand. The icons are absolutely disgusting. The lock screen font is disgusting. The notification bar is a mess and isn't nearly as clean as stock android. Why the F do I need an NFC icon? Then I'm caught in another dilemma when I attempt to use the material dark theme and the DEVICE LAGS EVEN MORE!?!?!
Man how much I wish Google still had the Google Play edition program because the marriage between stock android with the Note 5 would be heaven. Why couldn't Samsung just keep the stock UI but kept the added features such as S-pen? I really want to keep this device. I really love holding it and consuming media with it, but man navigating through this device is just a mess.
Some people are
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Some people are
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Unlike you, I have the ability to find faults in expensive devices I just purchased.
I love this device! Although I came from a note 2 and an iPhone 6 plus, I have no regrets. One can find faults with any device imo. I am very happy with my purchase.
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Unlike you, I have the ability to find faults in expensive devices I just purchased.
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Well, for one thing, I didn't get to finish my sentence. So that was kind of rude. What I was going to say, was some people have disabled and removed bloatware through package disabler pro. I never had any issues with lag before. But I disabled 181 apps and packages and my phone zings along. Android is about customization. I'm sorry you feel you were killed or short changed but I have experienced nothing but great stuff from the Note 5. I get 9-10 hrs of SOT and 20-25 hrs of great use. I have done my research and landed on this phone and couldn't be happier. I'd be happy to help you overcome the so called faults you've found and/or fix them. If your more of a DIYer, go through these threads on the How To's to customize your device to your liking.
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Well, for one thing, I didn't get to finish my sentence.
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Well, let's chalk that up to basic miscommunication. There was no way of me knowing that you were abruptly cut short. I'll see how much magic disabling all the bloat can do though. Hopefully it can solve most of my issues.
Just to be clear. Launching apps isn't the problem. Launching apps is considerably faster on the Note 5 than the Nexus 5 by a solid margin. It's the scrolling and animations that lag.
If you want a list of the ones I did. I can provide it. But I suggest taking the time to learn what each package is responsible for so you can truly tailor the device to your liking. I got a phone call and hit submit instead of answer when the little phone window appeared.
I compare the Note 5 to a new toaster. You know it's general premise and capabilities. But it is set to default or zero when its out of the box. It's up to the user to learn or test which setting is what to generate an optimal performance every time. While our society has grown to where we expect our devices to make us toast out of the box, it is still a device and has the tendency to require our input.
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Well, for one thing, I didn't get to finish my sentence. So that was kind of rude. What I was going to say, was some people have disabled and removed bloatware through package disabler pro. I never had any issues with lag before. But I disabled 181 apps and packages and my phone zings along. Android is about customization. I'm sorry you feel you were killed or short changed but I have experienced nothing but great stuff from the Note 5. I get 9-10 hrs of SOT and 20-25 hrs of great use. I have done my research and landed on this phone and couldn't be happier. I'd be happy to help you overcome the so called faults you've found and/or fix them. If your more of a DIYer, go through these threads on the How To's to customize your device to your liking.
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I gotta call bs with 9-10 hrs of SOT unless you really uc the processor have brightness at the min and play zero games.
Fantastic device. User of Note 1 thru 4, i cannot go back to Note 4. Very smooth experience, battery life is way beyond my Note 4 can sustain, and I have not even debloated (not even going to think about it now).
I tend to agree with your post. Scrolling is not as smooth as on my OnePlus One. Even after turning off a lot of background processes.
I feel the exact same way. I love this device, it may be the best android device I have ever used but idk if I can get with this battery life. Coming from a iPhone 6 Plus where I never had to worry about battery life and coming to the Note 5 where I seem to always have to consider my battery life. Yeah I know it has quick charging but that is besides the point. We will see if it gets better or if Samsung rolls out an update to tweak some things (Maybe in the year 2016) but as of right now, I'm paying close attention to my 14-day return period.
Well if you dont like the Note 5 then return it. I've came from a OnePlus One and I am very happy with the phones performance and battery life!
Comparing an iPhone to a note 5 is hardly a fair comparison... the iPhone is like a butter knife, it looks nice and does what it does weĺl... but thats it. The note 5 on the other hand is a swiss army knife of phones.... it does everything and can be tweaked, improved and customised.
If you arent happy thats a shame, enjoy your iPhone.
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Well if you dont like the Note 5 then return it. I've came from a OnePlus One and I am very happy with the phones performance and battery life!
Comparing an iPhone to a note 5 is hardly a fair comparison... the iPhone is like a butter knife, it looks nice and does what it does weĺl... but thats it. The note 5 on the other hand is a swiss army knife of phones.... it does everything and can be tweaked, improved and customised.
If you arent happy thats a shame, enjoy your iPhone.
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There is no point in replying if you didn't even read the original post. Where the F did this iphone come from?
Fizzy2k said:
Well if you dont like the Note 5 then return it. I've came from a OnePlus One and I am very happy with the phones performance and battery life!
Comparing an iPhone to a note 5 is hardly a fair comparison... the iPhone is like a butter knife, it looks nice and does what it does weĺl... but thats it. The note 5 on the other hand is a swiss army knife of phones.... it does everything and can be tweaked, improved and customised.
If you arent happy thats a shame, enjoy your iPhone.
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I also come from a OP1. Although I generally love the phone, for being such a powerhouse, the scrolling behaviour is a bit disappointing. I just held both phones, opening the same apps and somehow I feel the OP is smoother at times. Odd...
They pushed this out at least a month early. and this and the s6 are a brand new hardware platform, not your note 3 era nexus 5 hardware.
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I gotta call bs with 9-10 hrs of SOT unless you really uc the processor have brightness at the min and play zero games.
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Your wrong. I had 4 hours sot @ 46% left and l full brightness too
I agree the Note is fast no doubt, and can open apps faster than my Nexus 6, however over all experience is that the Nexus 6 is smoother with less hiccup. I too wish GPE wasn't dead, but it is and I see no signs of a resurrection. Even the supposed Android silver seems like a pipe dream now. In the end I am happy with Note 5 and will use my JoD for the Huaweii(spell check) nexus
If you have anything like lastpass using accessibility, turn it off and see if the scrolling turns out to work better.
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Your wrong. I had 4 hours sot @ 46% left and l full brightness too
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Must not do anything intensive on your phone at all than, sounds very boring.