Setup Synergy (server) on your PC.
Sideload Synergy Android Client on your Fire TV.
The client can be setup from the Fire TV remote. Press "Right" from the empty textarea at the bottom to select "Connect".
The client will continue to run, even with the Fire TV is asleep. Just use escape to wake it, though you will have to reconnect after a restart.
I haven't found the right key combinations for Home or Menu, but ESC works for Back. I'll update this post if I stumble across them or someone posts them below.
For help setting up the server on your PC, see the Synergy User Guide.
Tip: I personally prefer to use hotkeys to switch between screens, rather than moving the mouse off screen. If you choose to use move your mouse from screen to screen, I highly recommend setting up a hotkey to bring your focus back to the main screen, for when you lose track of your mouse.
Note: An older version of Synergy is still available to download for free on SourceForge, though I haven't tested it with the android client.
I also ran across ShareKM (Share Keyboard & Mouse) in the related threads when posting this, but I haven't tested it, either.
Using a keyboard and mouse does not require root.
xp314a said:
Setup Synergy (server) on your PC.
Sideload Synergy Android Client on your Fire TV.
The client can be setup from the Fire TV remote. Press "Right" from the empty textarea at the bottom to select "Connect".
The client will continue to run, even with the Fire TV is asleep. Just use escape to wake it, though you will have to reconnect after a restart.
I haven't found the right key combinations for Home or Menu, but ESC works for Back. I'll update this post if I stumble across them or someone posts them below.
For help setting up the server on your PC, see the Synergy User Guide.
Tip: I personally prefer to use hotkeys to switch between screens, rather than moving the mouse off screen. If you choose to use move your mouse from screen to screen, I highly recommend setting up a hotkey to bring your focus back to the main screen, for when you lose track of your mouse.
Note: An older version of Synergy is still available to download for free on SourceForge, though I haven't tested it with the android client.
I also ran across ShareKM (Share Keyboard & Mouse) in the related threads when posting this, but I haven't tested it, either.
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Or you can just plug the hundred different mice and keyboards into your fire TV through a hub and it works natively unless I'm missing something about synergy.
Spykez0129 said:
Or you can just plug the hundred different mice and keyboards into your fire TV through a hub and it works natively unless I'm missing something about synergy.
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Relax guys, he is just pointing out options. This would be useful say for someone that does not have a stand alone mouse or keyboard but has a laptop they can use to make the random selection here and there.
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z31fanatic said:
Using a keyboard and mouse does not require root.
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Spykez0129 said:
Or you can just plug the hundred different mice and keyboards into your fire TV through a hub and it works natively unless I'm missing something about synergy.
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This is to remotely control the Fire TV with the local keyboard and mouse on a PC or laptop. I have updated the thread title to clarify.
How do you sideload the synergy android client? the apk file is missing from the zip file your link leads to
Link
ChuckK3rd said:
How do you sideload the synergy android client? the apk file is missing from the zip file your link leads to
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sourceforge.net/projects/synergyandroid/files/Release%200.0005%20Alpha/
I haven't been able to get it to work for me. It just tells me I wasn't able to "Failed to connect to Wolvey:24800" on the firestick side. I changed the computer name to Wolvey since the previous one was the LAPTOP-;kjasdf and I was too lazy to sit there and try typing that over and over again. I restarted my computer after changing the name as well. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Also, I was wondering if DeskDock was tried out as well since it seems to be considered to be a more stable alternative?
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I haven't been able to get it to work for me. It just tells me I wasn't able to "Failed to connect to Wolvey:24800" on the firestick side. I changed the computer name to Wolvey since the previous one was the LAPTOP-;kjasdf and I was too lazy to sit there and try typing that over and over again. I restarted my computer after changing the name as well. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Also, I was wondering if DeskDock was tried out as well since it seems to be considered to be a more stable alternative?
Thanks
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Just use this no root required. vysor
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so, just networked my office pc and my living room media pc, just using ssh tunneling. all media stored on office pc, accessed via living room pc to go to tv.
both systems on ubuntu. office on 9.10, living room on 10.04
i highly recommend using remote droid (an app) for anyone else doing the same. lets me control the mouse on either computer from my couch, and the onscreen keyboard works just fine. from my couch, i drag and drop whatever files i want from one computer to the other, load any media i want, etc.
it's brilliant. i couldn't be happier
all you need if you have the setup is the remote droid jar file running. you can get it on the remote droid website. all totally free.
i heart open source
timothydonohue said:
so, just networked my office pc and my living room media pc, just using ssh tunneling. all media stored on office pc, accessed via living room pc to go to tv.
both systems on ubuntu. office on 9.10, living room on 10.04
i highly recommend using remote droid (an app) for anyone else doing the same. lets me control the mouse on either computer from my couch, and the onscreen keyboard works just fine. from my couch, i drag and drop whatever files i want from one computer to the other, load any media i want, etc.
it's brilliant. i couldn't be happier
all you need if you have the setup is the remote droid jar file running. you can get it on the remote droid website. all totally free.
i heart open source
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I'll have to check it out, I personally like phonemypc, $10 but worth it
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I'll have to check it out, I personally like phonemypc, $10 but worth it
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it isn't like phonemypc. phonemypc is an emulator like a remote desktop kind of deal, like logmein. this is just a remote mousepad/keyboard. you still have to look at the screen to see what you're doing. very handy though if you're on the couch. and, you don't have to do it in what i refer to as 'squintovision'.
timothydonohue said:
it isn't like phonemypc. phonemypc is an emulator like a remote desktop kind of deal, like logmein. this is just a remote mousepad/keyboard. you still have to look at the screen to see what you're doing. very handy though if you're on the couch. and, you don't have to do it in what i refer to as 'squintovision'.
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you can do that with phonemypc too, and gmote. I just like phonemypc because you don't have to set up ports or anything, it just works.
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you can do that with phonemypc too, and gmote. I just like phonemypc because you don't have to set up ports or anything, it just works.
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ah. you don't need to set ports for droid remote either. just tell it the local i.p. address of the computer you want to control. very handy for me, since i use it on more than one computer. and gmote is nice, if all you want to do is goof with your libraries. i can do whatever with remote droid. move files, start up hulu, navigate the web, etc. anything you could do sitting at the computer, you can do with remote droid (as long as you can still see the screen, lol)
I can't figure out how to set this up in Ubuntu.
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ah. you don't need to set ports for droid remote either. just tell it the local i.p. address of the computer you want to control. very handy for me, since i use it on more than one computer. and gmote is nice, if all you want to do is goof with your libraries. i can do whatever with remote droid. move files, start up hulu, navigate the web, etc. anything you could do sitting at the computer, you can do with remote droid (as long as you can still see the screen, lol)
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i always used phonemypc because on my last android phone i didn't have wifi, phone my pc uses their server as an intermediary so you just log in and you can see all your computers listed on the account, no IP's to keep track of or anything.
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I can't figure out how to set this up in Ubuntu.
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go to the remote droid website to get the jar file. you'll need the java runtime already installed on your computer (can get through software repository). once you have the jar file, just right click > open with > java runtime. then start up the remote droid app on your phone.
the default address was wrong for mine (127.0.1.1). you can find out your device address by going into your router (usually address 192.168.0.1, unless you've changed it) using a browser. your pc will be listed somewhere. google how to find it specifically within your router. then, plug that address into the remote droid configuration. should work like a charm
Is there a way in Ubuntu to setup a fixed IP address?
Anyone use anyone of those apps that let you run a server on your desktop / open up an app on your xoom and control your mouse and keyboard via the touch screen?
if so which is the best one optimized for the xoom? thanks!
PRemoteDroid. The server doesnt need to be installed, just a few files and you run the program. I keep a copy on my phone and Xoom incase I need to use it elsewhere.
If you are referring to accessing your computer remotely via Remote Desktop then I would suggest Remote RDP. It was free and works well on the Xoom. I am out of town quite a bit and access an office computer with it now. My laptop stays at home!!
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If you are referring to accessing your computer remotely via Remote Desktop then I would suggest Remote RDP. It was free and works well on the Xoom. I am out of town quite a bit and access an office computer with it now. My laptop stays at home!!
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oh ty, this may be very useful for when I already got into bed then realize I forgot to turn something on on my computer...I am lazy sometimes lol.
any else tried it? the touch pad/keyboard works flawlessly and its faster than any vnc client I've tried however I can't find an option to disconnect or go fullscreen. I setup my vm to use atrix's native 960x540 res so essentially with fixed fullscreen support this would be the perfect setup
edit: back will disconnect. it wasn't working initially (it would cause a right click) but either they fixed it or my phone fixed itself. this vnc client has support for external mouse/keyboard on android, so with the lapdock, the touchpad/keyboard works. yes, even right click works. once they at very least offer basic fullscreen/no status bar support this easily replaces webtop for me as long as you have a decent internet connection.
tl;dr spend 99c on jump desktop vnc now before the price goes up =D
Except using a vnc app on the phone wont work well translated on the touchpad. I used teamviewer and i had to drag the touchpad to move the mouse, it was kind of annoying.
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Except using a vnc app on the phone wont work well translated on the touchpad. I used teamviewer and i had to drag the touchpad to move the mouse, it was kind of annoying.
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that's the beauty of jump desktop. it has support for external mouse/keyboard.. so the touch pad acts like a real touch pad. the mouse on the remote machine follows below your blue android mouse
theres a free app called pocket cloud which has the same functionality, but the keyboard is iffy, and overall it's just not as fast as jump. there is a little lag as the virtual machine follows your mouse especially on 3G but it's the most amazing client i've found so far. just need to push them for fullscreen support
Hi,
I'm one of the developers on the Jump Desktop app. Glad you're finding Jump useful.
1. Re: back button not working: We actually fixed this in our 4.0.4 update - let us know if you have any issues with this.
2. Fullscreen / status bar: Jump should already be going fullscreen for you. Which OS are you running on your Atrix?
3. Also, did you know that pressing the 'menu' button shows / hides Jump's functional keyboard at the bottom?
4. And yes - the price is going to up - our iOS version costs much more
Please do let us know what you guys want to see with with Jump - we really want it to become the best remote desktop app on the Android market.
I, for one, am using an alpha build of CM9 and find that your program works very well.
One thing that I would like to see is full-screen without any panning, which I believe is what the OP meant. Is there a way that the android notification bar could be hidden so that we could make complete use of the phone's display for the VNC?
jumpdesktop said:
Hi,
I'm one of the developers on the Jump Desktop app. Glad you're finding Jump useful.
1. Re: back button not working: We actually fixed this in our 4.0.4 update - let us know if you have any issues with this.
2. Fullscreen / status bar: Jump should already be going fullscreen for you. Which OS are you running on your Atrix?
3. Also, did you know that pressing the 'menu' button shows / hides Jump's functional keyboard at the bottom?
4. And yes - the price is going to up - our iOS version costs much more
Please do let us know what you guys want to see with with Jump - we really want it to become the best remote desktop app on the Android market.
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Nice that you care enough to participate in the forum here. Thanks!
Great app, by the way. I justify paying for very few apps, but yours is worth many times the .99 I paid yesterday. (Now that I have mine ) I would say you could reasonably raise the price to about the level of PocketCloud. although I find your app to be superior so far.
As to future features, the only thing I can think of is file transfer.
Hey just wondering I've set up my Windows PC to my TV which is about 10ft away from TV, and I play media through XBMC which is on the TV and use the dedicated Android application for it.
I'm looking to take it a little bit further though, and use the A500 tablet as a keyboard and touchpad for just doing other things on the PC while using the TV.
I've come across a few applications which use software on the PC to communicate with the tablet and send/receive keystrokes and touch input for mouse which is fine but all the apps I've played with so far if you use the keyboard bit the touchpad goes away, and you have to press another button to switch to the touchpad, and same with when using the touchpad you can't use the keyboard at the same time, I was wondering if anyone has come across an application that can show both at the same time without having to hide one or the other when using one of them.
I am not home right now to see if using the touchpad and kb at the same time works, but I use TeamViewer. I cannot see a reason you need both the kb and touchpad functionality at the same time.
I have a 16gb model with stock 2.1 unrooted firmware , and I'm currently waiting for another one to arrive. The one I have has a 32gb micro sd card and 2 usb 3.0 4tb external hdd's connected, I use it mainly for running kodi, and for streaming the external hdd's content to other devices at home that also have kodi installed. For my type of usage, by priority, this are the things I would like to see fixed / implemented:
- We already have suspend and reboot, but I would really like if there was a simple turn on and off / remote power off option without having to phisicaly touch the console, I don't like that the external hdd's are always working;
- Better system / app compatibility with external drives, currently I can't even make a simple kodi library backup;
- Option to auto-start a certain app after boot, by exiting that app it would go back to launcher;
- Better mouse support, those who use es explorer know how hard it is to do even the most simple actions without using a mouse;
- More theme / launcher custom options, possibility to choose only what I want and the size I want it to show on the "desktop", change wallpapers;
- More app compatibility from play store, there is a very limited number of apps currently available that are compatible with shield whitout having to use sideload launcher.
I don't know if there's already a solution for any of the things I mentioned, especially the first two, if so, please let me know, thanks!
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I have a 16gb model with stock 2.1 unrooted firmware , and I'm currently waiting for another one to arrive. The one I have has a 32gb micro sd card and 2 usb 3.0 4tb external hdd's connected, I use it mainly for running kodi, and for streaming the external hdd's content to other devices at home that also have kodi installed. For my type of usage, by priority, this are the things I would like to see fixed / implemented:
- We already have suspend and reboot, but I would really like if there was a simple turn on and off / remote power off option without having to phisicaly touch the console, I don't like that the external hdd's are always working;
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controller/remote can already wake up the Shield.
AFAIK, the USB mass storage protocol doesn't have disk-specific instructions for spinning up and down drives. So it's up to each drive and/or enclosure (case+usb<->sata controller) to provide this functionality.
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- Better system / app compatibility with external drives, currently I can't even make a simple kodi library backup;
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wait for the next update (Android 6.0) or root than sdfix (google it).
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- Option to auto-start a certain app after boot, by exiting that app it would go back to launcher;
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search 'auto start' in the play store (might need to sideload)
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- Better mouse support, those who use es explorer know how hard it is to do even the most simple actions without using a mouse;
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just plug a mouse ?
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- More theme / launcher custom options, possibility to choose only what I want and the size I want it to show on the "desktop", change wallpapers;
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install another launcher.
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- More app compatibility from play store, there is a very limited number of apps currently available that are compatible with shield whitout having to use sideload launcher.
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best way if you want a specific app to appear in the TV store is to contact the author of that app.
anyway this is a design/philosophy problem.
go for alternate ROM if you don't like the design/philosophy of Android TV.
kgersen said:
controller/remote can already wake up the Shield.
AFAIK, the USB mass storage protocol doesn't have disk-specific instructions for spinning up and down drives. So it's up to each drive and/or enclosure (case+usb<->sata controller) to provide this functionality.
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True, but the current standby / sleep mode is a little like locking the screen of your phone (or even less because everything is still working, just the "screen" is turned off), I wanted the option to acctualy shut down shield with the remote, currently it can only be powered off by holding the power button on the console for about 10 seconds, after that you can't turn it on again from distance with any remote / controller.
The two external hdd's I'm using on shield are self powered 3.0 usb 4tb Verbatim Store `n` Save, when connected to any other device (wd tv, laptop, etc....) after a few minutes of not being in use, they will enter standy mode / shutdown, even if the device where they're connected to is still on, if you need to access any of it's contents (just open the hdd root folder for instance) they will power on automatically, this doesn't happen on shield and I don't think that this is any of the hdd's fault, I also don't know if it's in any way harmful for the hard drives to be on all the time...?
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wait for the next update (Android 6.0) or root than sdfix (google it).
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The reason why I want to backup kodi's library is exactly because, in order to root, I need to unlock the bootloader and, in doing so I'll loose all data...
kgersen said:
search 'auto start' in the play store (might need to sideload)
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Any auto start app you advice?
kgersen said:
just plug a mouse ?
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I use a logitech k700 mouse + keyboard combo, but the mouse stops working after some time (I believe this is a known issue on shield), I don't know if this is due to leanback launcher, it does this with every mouse I tried so far...
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install another launcher.
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Which launcher works best on android tv without being "sidelaunched"...? I ask this because the one I tried didn't open on shield startup, I had to open if afterwards on sidelaucher. I've also read that the opposite can also hapen, that certain launchers (xbmc launcher for instance) won't let you go back to leanback or access shield settings...
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best way if you want a specific app to appear in the TV store is to contact the author of that app.
anyway this is a design/philosophy problem. go for alternate ROM if you don't like the design/philosophy of Android TV.
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I have nothing against the design/philosophy of Android TV, I just think that if a certain app or game (Sine Mora [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digitalreality.sinemora] works flawlessly using the controller) is fully compatible with shield, it should be accessible without the use of sidelauncher.
Thanks for the help
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they will enter standy mode / shutdown, even if the device where they're connected to is still on, if you need to access any of it's contents (just open the hdd root folder for instance) they will power on automatically, this doesn't happen on shield
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im having the same hdd wake issue, only difference is mine seems fine until the satv sleeps. the hdd doesnt wake when satv does... so far my search for a fix hasnt gone well, hoping the M update will take care of it.
might give HAL launcher a try if you dont want to sideload, if you havent already. iirc it had an option in settings to be used as default launcher. i tried it about 6 months ago and went back to leanback.
there dont seem to be many good alternatives atm
and AutoStarter should work for autolaunching apps, also has a start to foreground and delayed start options, havent tried it on the satv though
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The reason why I want to backup kodi's library is exactly because, in order to root, I need to unlock the bootloader and, in doing so I'll loose all data...
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you can backup your library to the cloud or a network server with ES File Explorer.
or with a PC (win/mac/linux) and adb (you dont need an usb cable, just activate debugging & network debugging in the Shield then "adb pull" the files you want to backup).
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Any auto start app you advice?
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BrunoNRG said:
I have nothing against the design/philosophy of Android TV, I just think that if a certain app or game (Sine Mora [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digitalreality.sinemora] works flawlessly using the controller) is fully compatible with shield, it should be accessible without the use of sidelauncher.
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AFAIK, Sine Mora is accessible from the web play store , you don't need to sideload it but you need another device to access the web play store to push it to the Shield (or sideload a browser in the shield 1st since you have a mouse).
If Sine Mora doesn't show in the Shield Play Store it's because its editor didn't opt-in to do so. Try contacting them to fix that, some developers are just unaware of Android TV until someone ask them about it. The fix can take less than 5 minutes usually. The opt-in can't be automatic for a lot of reasons but mostly support (even more if it's a paid app).