Released in April and no AOSP ROM yet - Is S5 worth buying? - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My S4 got fried. When I got it fixed, I found that it was upgraded to a newer build which has Knox. Therefore, I cannot use custom recovery or flash AOSP ROMs anymore. I cant stand Touchwiz.
I was thinking of selling my S4 and going for an S5 but it appears that no AOSP ROMs have not been released yet and development has ceased because of issues with GPS and Camera.The GPE version which can help with ROM development also has not been released yet and its release appears unlikely as time goes by. This phone was released back in April and I dont know if I can expect a stable AOSP ROM to be ever released - As the phone gets older, it gets more unlikely that someone will have the interest to fix these issues. Anyone share these concerns - any related thoughts - Is the S5 worth buying?

Development has not stalled, stop creating drama. This is a great phone all around so it was worth getting before root even occurred. Get the M8 if you can't be bothered...

phonedawg said:
My S4 got fried. When I got it fixed, I found that it was upgraded to a newer build which has Knox. Therefore, I cannot use custom recovery or flash AOSP ROMs anymore. I cant stand Touchwiz.
I was thinking of selling my S4 and going for an S5 but it appears that no AOSP ROMs have not been released yet and development has ceased because of issues with GPS and Camera.The GPE version which can help with ROM development also has not been released yet and its release appears unlikely as time goes by. This phone was released back in April and I dont know if I can expect a stable AOSP ROM to be ever released - As the phone gets older, it gets more unlikely that someone will have the interest to fix these issues. Anyone share these concerns - any related thoughts - Is the S5 worth buying?
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GPS and Camera issues? No. And the development hasn't stalled, but is definitely more moderated than older phones. And you will not see ANY AOSP roms until the bootloader is unlocked(likely never). You have to use safestrap so you will only have Touchwiz roms.

phonedawg said:
My S4 got fried. When I got it fixed, I found that it was upgraded to a newer build which has Knox. Therefore, I cannot use custom recovery or flash AOSP ROMs anymore. I cant stand Touchwiz.
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To add to what was said above, Knox is not the problem. The locked bootloader put in place on the Verizon and At&T variants is the problem. The T-Mobile and Sprint Galaxy S5s also have Knox, but their bootloaders are unlocked. So users of those models are free to flash whatever ROMs are available for their variants.

And the root exploit has been patched. So maybe not the best phone if you can't stand TW/absolutely can't stand not running a custom ROM unless you can get one that has not had the patch installed.
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FWIW I've been running custom ROM's since my old original Moto Droid and felt the same way. I finally took the plunge yesterday and paid full retail for the S5 (unlimited data plan)... I've got root and SuperSU with knox dis-abled, so I can freeze/delete anything I want and Foxfi lets me broadcast wifi tether. This phone is pretty well fantastic as it is. Even though some features are nice I ain't so sure I am even gonna mess with it. The phone is THAT good IMO....

phonedawg said:
My S4 got fried. When I got it fixed, I found that it was upgraded to a newer build which has Knox. Therefore, I cannot use custom recovery or flash AOSP ROMs anymore. I cant stand Touchwiz.
I was thinking of selling my S4 and going for an S5 but it appears that no AOSP ROMs have not been released yet and development has ceased because of issues with GPS and Camera.The GPE version which can help with ROM development also has not been released yet and its release appears unlikely as time goes by. This phone was released back in April and I dont know if I can expect a stable AOSP ROM to be ever released - As the phone gets older, it gets more unlikely that someone will have the interest to fix these issues. Anyone share these concerns - any related thoughts - Is the S5 worth buying?
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As for AOSP ROMs. I have never had success with any AOSP ROM on my Moto Maxx HD, or my Sammy S4 Developer Edition and I tried every AOSP ROM available for them. In every case battery life was bad, or camera wasn't right or did not work, or GPS would not work or hold the sync, or they got real laggy after a few days or data would come and go. It didn't make a difference which ROM, there was always something that wasn't quite right. In the case of my S4, it always ran better on a TW based ROM.
I have an S5 Developer Edition now. Based on my previous experience with AOSP ROMs, I'm not holding my breath for a AOSP ROM that performs any better on my S5 than they did on my S4 because I don't think they'll ever get there.
There is root and SafeStrap for the S5 retail version now, as you already know. From most accounts the S5 performs very nicely with the TW based ROMs available...and so does my S5 Dev Edition. I'm not sure what it is about TW that you don't like but the S5 is a great phone whether you flash a custom ROM or not.

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And the root exploit has been patched. So maybe not the best phone if you can't stand TW/absolutely can't stand not running a custom ROM unless you can get one that has not had the patch installed.
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Verification on this statement? I gotta swap mine out for a warranty issue, hoping this isn't true. I haven't found anything else to confirm this....
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prenedo said:
Verification on this statement? I gotta swap mine out for a warranty issue, hoping this isn't true. I haven't found anything else to confirm this....
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The exploit has been patched, but the S5 has not received an update. So there is a chance the warranty replacement you receive may be ok, as long as the kernel is before June 3.
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Very confused about MF3

I just bought the HTC One for $200, but then I saw that Best Buy had the Samsung Galaxy s4 on sale for $50. I did not know which one I wanted and was truly torn between the two and ended up buying the HTC but if I can save $150 I will gladly get the s4. My only problem is that as I've been reading up on cs4 forums to make sure that I would be able to unlock root and flash custom roms I had came across what seems to be the problem with an AT&T firmware update known as mf3. If I cannot root and flash custom kernels and roms I do not think I will take advantage of the offer from Best Buy. My problem is that even after all the reading I cannot figure out whether it is possible to root and flash custom ROMs and kernels to the new version from AT&T, known as mf3, or if it is still not possible, or if it will be possible very soon so that I'm may use Android 4.4 Kit Kat on the phone or any custom Rom I wish. Can someone please clarify this for me as soon as possible because my time to return the HTC One to AT&T is coming close to its end?
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You can root and flash some roms using safestrap. But it's very limited. Imo I'd stay away from the s4
It's there any progress toward cracking MF3? I've had a one x for pat year and kinda wanted a change and I love the screen on the s4. If you had to choose between the s4 and the HTC one taking into consideration the mf3 problem, which would you choose? And which would you choose if there was no mf3 problem?
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If you can find a S4 with MDL or earlier firmware it's a excellent phone. Personally if it has MF3 or later I wouldn't bother. But that's just my opinion.
You might as well get rid of the One as well. It's just as locked down.
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Untrue, about HTCone being just as locked down. It can have it's boatload unlocked quiet easily and if you want to, although it's not necessary, you can even do s-off to get full unbridled access. I previously had a HTC one x and also from everything I've read it seems AT&T went out of there way to lock down s4 tight , just like they did to the one x but eventually the devs got it. I do want the s4 though,even though this phone is awesome(HTC One), and I can live with no custom Rom for a while but I can't go without root. So if I get a s4 with mf3 will it still be able to be rooted ? I've read up on it but don't understand what everyone is talking about when they say if the phone is encrypted or notand it seems to be random.
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So sick and tired of reading about MF3, or MK2 constantly on these forums. If you want to buy an S4 on AT&T look for an MDL one on eBay. It's not that hard, really.
Or buy the T-Mobile variant or International version.
Thanks for your kind response to my honest question mattmjb0188. I can't get a t mobile or international variant bc I'm on a budget. I will use my upgrade to get the phone at best buy for $50, and the condition of this price is that it must be a contract renewal/upgrade, which is another reason I can't get diff version of the phone. Did you even read the op? I would love to get one brand new out of the box with mdl but the odds of that are slim hence why I asked the question in the 1st place. So if you can't help or don't like the question then don't respond, but I do thank you for your info about the other variants that don't have issues, it just doesn't help me.
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Rad ryan said:
Thanks for your kind response to my honest question mattmjb0188. I can't get a t mobile or international variant bc I'm on a budget. I will use my upgrade to get the phone at best buy for $50, and the condition of this price is that it must be a contract renewal/upgrade, which is another reason I can't get diff version of the phone. Did you even read the op? I would love to get one brand new out of the box with mdl but the odds of that are slim hence why I asked the question in the 1st place. So if you can't help or don't like the question then don't respond, but I do thank you for your info about the other variants that don't have issues, it just doesn't help me.
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Anyone new on these forums just asks over and over about MF3 and the Android 4.3 update. Basically, if you get an S4 with Mf3 or later firmware, you are pretty much stuck on stock. Then we have noobs who don't read and attempt to root their MF3 phones and brick them.
On pure stock, the S4 is a bad phone. The software is very laggy and needs a lot of improvement. I was one of the early adapters when it first came out. The phone was a nightmare with MDB and MDL firmware. Mf3 made slight improvements, but not enough.
I would not even invest in buying this phone right now. Most development for it has died down because of the restrictions. Developers are moving on. Those of us with MDL firmware (like myself) won't see much continued support for Loki nowadays anyway. If the bootloader could be unlocked, I believe it would have been unlocked by now. All these workarounds are very limited, and dangerous.
Personally, I wouldn't even buy the phone at this point. Scrape the funds together for either the T-Mobile S4 or Note 3.
Get the nexus 5, you'll be very happy
Thank you very much for that answer, that was an excellent answer. Although I'm not a noob bc I've been doing this stuff for years and been a member for years.I did the trading but I am not familiar with Samsung at all bc the last Samsung I had was a captivate. It's there a lot of active development for the t mobile variant? I'm guessing it's probably around $600, right? Lastly do you think that there will be a solution to the lock down of mf3 and later in the next few months?
Again thanks for your very helpful answer.
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Rad ryan said:
Thank you very much for that answer, that was an excellent answer. Although I'm not a noob bc I've been doing this stuff for years and been a member for years.I did the trading but I am not familiar with Samsung at all bc the last Samsung I had was a captivate. It's there a lot of active development for the t mobile variant? I'm guessing it's probably around $600, right? Lastly do you think that there will be a solution to the lock down of mf3 and later in the next few months?
Again thanks for your very helpful answer.
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The development for the AT&T S4 has died down. In my opinion, no one will ever unlock the bootloader for it. Maybe someday with some future device, but not this device. The closest we got was with the loki method, which was great. But that's long gone now.
Look on negri for the T-Mobile variant. I think its M919. I'm not sure. T-Mobile developers have been able to make great roms for the device, instead of wasting so much time to find a workaround. Maybe even try T-Mobile out and see if they've improved in your area. They got a lot better in my area, but still a lot of EDGE.
If I were you, I'd go for the Nexus 5.
Rad ryan said:
Thanks for your kind response to my honest question mattmjb0188. I can't get a t mobile or international variant bc I'm on a budget. I will use my upgrade to get the phone at best buy for $50, and the condition of this price is that it must be a contract renewal/upgrade, which is another reason I can't get diff version of the phone. Did you even read the op? I would love to get one brand new out of the box with mdl but the odds of that are slim hence why I asked the question in the 1st place. So if you can't help or don't like the question then don't respond, but I do thank you for your info about the other variants that don't have issues, it just doesn't help me.
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Heres my suggestion, if you want the s4, get it from best buy than sell it unopened for as much as you can and than with the money you get buy a tmobile or i9505 international variant...(not i9500 or the verizon or sprint one)
The tmobile variant is probably your best bet, the tmobile variant supports all of ATT service bands so youll have no issues with reception or internet. The tmobile variant can flash roms from any of the other s4 variants (verizon sprint att i9505...just not any roms from the i9500)
So in other words if you get the tmobile variant you dont have to worry about a dead dev scene as you can always flash roms from a differnt carrier...only thing is you will probably have to set up your apns for att rom flashes
Hope that helps you
And on another note if you decide to stick with the ATT s4, every firmware can be rooted
Mdb has real recoveries, so you can flash anything as long as you "loki" the kernel - Unfortunately I do not think there are any stores that are selling phones with this firmware
Mdl has real recoveries, so you can flash anything as long as you "loki" the kernel...Unfortunately it is pretty much impossible to find a phone with this firmware in any store now
Mf3 has safestrap which is kinda like a recovery, with it you can flash any touchwiz based 4.2.2 rom (stock roms) or any 4.2.2 Google Phone Edition (aka GPE, which is an aosp experience S4, no bloatware no samsung features, its like having a nexus in the body of an s4) rom...NO CUSTOM KERNELS, NO AOSP ROMS (no cyanogenmod) - this is the firmware most phones come with
Mk2 (latest firmware) recently got a beta safestrap...as of now you can flash some 4.3 touchwiz stock based roms, alot dont boot yet, and the GPE 4.3 rom doesn't boot with it either. As it becomes stable it should work identical to the one for mf3 - phones will probably start coming with this one soon
In other words, safestrap allows you to run roms that are built off the same firmware version as your stock rom, safestrap flashes no kernel, so whatever rom you flash has to be compatible with the stock kernel of your current firmware
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Rad ryan said:
Thank you very much for that answer, that was an excellent answer. Although I'm not a noob bc I've been doing this stuff for years and been a member for years.I did the trading but I am not familiar with Samsung at all bc the last Samsung I had was a captivate. It's there a lot of active development for the t mobile variant? I'm guessing it's probably around $600, right? Lastly do you think that there will be a solution to the lock down of mf3 and later in the next few months?
Again thanks for your very helpful answer.
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They actually seem to be getting close to another work around which will allow you to flash any rom or kernel using safestrap...turns out theres a feature in the 4.3 mk2 kernel which allows unsigned drivers to run, in theory they can compile a kexec driver for the kernel which would allow you to use any kernel thus allowing the flash of any rom...theres a how-to thread in the original development section with more info, however...its not a guarentee we will see this anytime soon, as you never know what issues they may run into...but something to look into if your interested
EDIT: actually heres a post from the thread i mentioned which pretty much sums up how we hope this "exploit" will work as far as kernel flashing goes http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48703510&postcount=10
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With all that said; how come I have the MF3 baseband my s4 (jflteatt), and I still have a custom recovery with the ability to flash different roms and kernels? Is it because I installed the custom recovery on an earlier baseband and then it got updated to a newer baseband but still kept recovery?
I only found out I had MF3 on my phone now because I couldn't flash a different recovery anymore.
Yes
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With all that said; how come I have the MF3 baseband my s4 (jflteatt), and I still have a custom recovery with the ability to flash different roms and kernels? Is it because I installed the custom recovery on an earlier baseband and then it got updated to a newer baseband but still kept recovery?
I only found out I had MF3 on my phone now because I couldn't flash a different recovery anymore.
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It is literally impossible to have officially updated through OTA while on a custom Recovery. What I suspect has been done is the same as my phone. I got an MDL device and quickly installed TWRP and a custom ROM. As new updates came out, I flashed just the baseband. So now, I have a 4.4 ROM with the MK2 baseband and am able to install anything I like.
If I were to have ever done an OTA, I would no longer be able to have a custom recovery because of a blown Qfuse.
Please don't try to say that what you have is the only phone with OTA MF3 and custom recovery.
The only way to have anything like that is through SS and that is not a true recovery. If you do have that, you can only install certain ROMs not including AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, or CM.
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When did I ever say I was the only one? I asked a simple question that I mostly had the answer to already; which in turn was answered by a simple "Yes" from HiTideBlastoise.
And I never said anything about OTA either. I said I had installed custom recovery on an earlier baseband and then my baseband was updated but recovery was still intact.
I never said you did say that. It was preemptive. Secondly, you make it out to seem like you did nothing to update your baseband. You are making it seem like it just happened. Well, that can't happen without either updating the entire phone or flashing it yourself. The funny thing is the baseband means nothing when it comes to recoveries and flashing ROMs. It can only be used as a possible sign on a stock device as to what version one is running. On a modified device, like yours, it is worthless information on the version of Android. Like I said before, I have 4.4 with MK2 as my baseband. How can I install ROMs. Not because it updated my baseband after I already have a custom recovery... But because I never took an OTA and made it do the stuff I wanted.
Basically what I am saying is that you need to be clear with what you say. Everything you said makes it sound like your phone did it all by itself without you or someone else making it the way it is. There is no other option. You have to have done something to have a custom recovery and an MF3 baseband with pre MF3 bootloaders.
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I agree with graydiggy that the only way to still have a custom recovery and mf3 baseband is that you either flashed an mf3 tw rom with a modem or a a standalone modem to your mdl software. If you took the "OTA" successfully, you will definitely have a locked down bootloader now.
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Recovery

Any working TWRP or CWM recovery for KK?
Nope might not be for awhile
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Luvsa Dawagiv said:
Any working TWRP or CWM recovery for KK?
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You can flash one of the stock rooted Kk custom roms with the patched kernel that keeps recovery, but you can't root or install recovery over already installed Kk. Kk? :laugh:
Wonder how long it will be.
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Wonder how long it will be.
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Long time. Possibly never for custom recoveries. LG is supposedly using the same security as Samsung now to block the Loki exploit. They barely have Safestrap and still no ability to flash custom AOSP ROMs 6 months later. The only way will more than likely be the workaround we have now.
Are you serious Knox you've got to be kidding me why is this a popular thing with android phone manufacturers its sad android is becoming as locked down as iOS I get the feeling that soon very few phones will be Rootable except for very few devices they really are using Knox or some variant or something similar
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Are you serious Knox you've got to be kidding me why is this a popular thing with android phone manufacturers its sad android is becoming as locked down as iOS I get the feeling that soon very few phones will be Rootable except for very few devices they really are using Knox or some variant or something similar
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I'm not sure exactly what it is. Not Knox but maybe something similar. I read that somewhere anyway. I agree that soon there's going to be very few phones that can be rooted. Nexus devices and that's it I think. People these days want their devices secure. Root is essentially a flaw in the devices security. A backdoor if you will. I guess the thought process is that if there's a vulnerability, it'll be easier for hackers to get ahold of your vital information. Companies don't want the bad press of their devices being easily hacked into via a fake hot spot at Starbucks or whatever. So they lock them down. Try to patch up every possible security vulnerability there is. Sucks for power users like us, who want root, custom recoveries and all. In the end, sadly we're in the minority. We're gonna be forced to buy Google Play Edition or Nexus devices within the next few years. That's my take on it anyway.
Couldn't agree more
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If that is the case, then the Android adventure is over for me. At least theres usually a jailbreak for every iOS version and there is only one security system to attack there as opposed to Samsungs, LGs, HTCs etc. security system on Android.
Sad.
@spinninbsod I'm hoping that since VZW now sells the N7 in store, maybe we'll have a chance at getting the next Nexus phone as well. If we do, its going to be an instabuy for me. All this locked down stuff is too much. We're just lucky we can downgrade and get back to the JB aboot, so we can still have custom recovery. Samsung won't allow downgrades, so that option is out the window for them. I'm glad LG didn't do that to us at least.
I know how the Samsung users feel I had an s4 before my g2 I hated it great hardware but to locked down I refuse to buy any Samsung or non developer friendly product hopefully the next nexus device will have better battery life
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I know how the Samsung users feel I had an s4 before my g2 I hated it great hardware but to locked down I refuse to buy any Samsung or non developer friendly product hopefully the next nexus device will have better battery life
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I don't see how Knox would in any way keep you from flashing a custom recovery + rom on the S4? Plenty of AOSP roms available.
That is for mdk firmware before Knox the only custom ROM available for mj7/mk2 builds with knox, firmwares is hyperdrive ROM a stock based touchwhiz ROMs trust me I know this there is no recovery other than safestrap
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Cyanogenmod mod ?

Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
No, still can't flash custom kernels
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No, still can't flash custom kernels
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there are may subjects and threads on this matter. I realized that not everyone understands everything, but if you know enough to register on this site, you must know how to use the search function.
to sum up:
search before posting
for the time being s4 and above on verizon wont be able to run aosp roms*
*besides developers edition. (if you have to ask, you don't have one)
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Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
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i did the same thing back in January and i'm kicking myself in the ass for not doing a lot more research first. samsung software has got to be the worst, thats why this phone has 3 gb ram. use towel root and at least get root access to shut half the ****ty software off. the custom roms for this phone are just rework versions of bloatwiz.
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
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That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
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The likelihood that our bootloader will even be unlocked or that any real development will go into kexec allowing us to flash custom kernels is probably close to 0%, meaning there will not be a cyanogenmod for retail N3.
However, if you are looking for a closer to AOSP rom check out Eclipse Rom. The dev has put much coding into the rom to make it feel like AOSP, it's not without its faults but what rom is perfect?
Also the devs for Alliance Rom have said they will be releasing an AOSP version in the future and many people are looking forward to that.
With practically any rom you will find yourself uninstalling a lot of bloatware unless you are one of the few who bought a Samsung device to use the proprietary software.
Either way, have fun.

Lollipop source is out

Who shall be the first to build ?
The race is on
Buahahhahahhaha
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Who shall be the first to build ?
The race is on
Buahahhahahhaha
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Source ?
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Source ?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...roid-5-0-lollipop-source-code-aosp-right-now/
I'm OK now, I'm happy to have waited this long for an AOSP ROM.
I can wait longer if it becomes a L ROM for our G3!!
Great news !
it's hard to say...i'm working on a lollypop port since weeks now and the main problem is a kernel panic related to the modem resetting.. i think that once i will figure out how to solve it i will be able to release a first beta
It is usually very hard to get new android versions ported to a device where there is no official rom of the same version for it - you basically are going in blind trying to get all the hardware to work.
If we are lucky we might see one or two builds before LG release theirs (which is now less than 2 months away!) but I would expect them to be buggy with some hardware not working - so far we don't even have a fully working Kitkat AOSP build for our device.
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it's hard to say...i'm working on a lollypop port since weeks now and the main problem is a kernel panic related to the modem resetting.. i think that once i will figure out how to solve it i will be able to release a first beta
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good luck bro!!! lets see if you can beat LG to the draw...
please keep us posted!!!
Thanks in advance
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good luck bro!!! lets see if you can beat LG to the draw...
please keep us posted!!!
Thanks in advance
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if someone would like to help here is last_kmsg at the very end you'll find the kernel panic about modem
bah, who needs the LG Lollipop rom? probably gonna have their own skin again which, in my opinion, is inferior to stock lollipop. plus, if you have not read, Android 5.0 Lollipop gives developers the option to completely lockdown devices and prevent root, specifically in our devices where bootloader is not unlockable. Don't think I'll take the risk though. It's a huge one!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/
Oooh. I so happy. ????
jayzhoukj said:
bah, who needs the LG Lollipop rom? probably gonna have their own skin again which, in my opinion, is inferior to stock lollipop. plus, if you have not read, Android 5.0 Lollipop gives developers the option to completely lockdown devices and prevent root, specifically in our devices where bootloader is not unlockable. Don't think I'll take the risk though. It's a huge one!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/
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this is true although (and i may well be wrong) i would presume this would only apply if you take the update from OEM and not custom rom .... if we take a flashable custom rom i would assume that this lockdown is completely irrelevant and fairly risk free providing the devs can get all the hardware side of things up and running
ah yes, you are right. personally though i would prefer to go straight to stock rom after rooting. not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
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ah yes, you are right. personally though i would prefer to go straight to stock rom after rooting. not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
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that all depends what you want to be able to do on your device ..... without root you cannot use xposed (although until made to run on ART it wont work with lollipop onwards ) ... you need root to delete / modify any / all system apps and other tweaks under the hood ..... there are many things you could need root for
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not really sure what the difference is (if any big changes) between a rooted and non-rooted stock rom
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Root alone does nothing. It's what you do with the elevated privileges that matters. With root access, you pretty much have complete control over the phone's software, so you can do next to nothing, or completely overhaul everything to the point where it is indistinguishable from a stock, non-modified phone.
By the way... If LG isn't blowing smoke up our backsides, we'll have a working Optimus UI w/ 5.0.. guessing 6 weeks, give or take. And it remains to be seen how quickly they release their sources. Until those sources are released, any 5.0 custom ROMs are going to be Lollipop on top of LG's KK stuff (kernel, radio/modem, graphics drivers, etc). Not sure how stable that will all be. My only experience with a phone running a ROM like that was running early KK builds on my old Galaxy S3, which was Android 4.4 built on top of Samsung's Jelly Bean stuff. And that was buggy as hell, tons of problems. Basic stuff, like every time it switched from Wi-Fi to mobile data, I got a kernel panic and it would reboot.
So I would be wary of any LP ROMs for the G3 that didn't include the native LP stuff from LG.
LeoRex said:
Root alone does nothing. It's what you do with the elevated privileges that matters. With root access, you pretty much have complete control over the phone's software, so you can do next to nothing, or completely overhaul everything to the point where it is indistinguishable from a stock, non-modified phone.
By the way... If LG isn't blowing smoke up our backsides, we'll have a working Optimus UI w/ 5.0.. guessing 6 weeks, give or take. And it remains to be seen how quickly they release their sources. Until those sources are released, any 5.0 custom ROMs are going to be Lollipop on top of LG's KK stuff (kernel, radio/modem, graphics drivers, etc). Not sure how stable that will all be. My only experience with a phone running a ROM like that was running early KK builds on my old Galaxy S3, which was Android 4.4 built on top of Samsung's Jelly Bean stuff. And that was buggy as hell, tons of problems. Basic stuff, like every time it switched from Wi-Fi to mobile data, I got a kernel panic and it would reboot.
So I would be wary of any LP ROMs for the G3 that didn't include the native LP stuff from LG.
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infact since 1 month i'm trying to port lollypop and i'm blocked by kernel panic at boot due to modem resetting
My concern is for our d850 development .... It will pick up im guessing
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OEM Unlock feature in Lollipop dev options
Lollipop has an OEM Unlock feature in the development options. Chainfire already utilized it to root the N9. See attached.
so excited in looking forward to your effort - friends....
hwong96 said:
Lollipop has an OEM Unlock feature in the development options. Chainfire already utilized it to root the N9. See attached.
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OEM unlock meaning ?

Any Marshmamllow ROM for Verizon Galaxy Note 3 ?

Just rooted my phone was running @5.0 stock lollipop and I updated to Jasmine 6.1 ROM (I thought 6.1 means 6.1 Android Version but i guess i was wrong)
I'm looking for verizon galaxy note 3 rom that's running on marshmallow
I seen T mobile note 3 can flash rom that's running on marshmallow right now
Is there any marshmallow rom available for verizon model as well?
I'm relatively new to all of this but from what I can gather our bootloaders are still locked (anyone that hasn't flashed a different one before 4.4) I have a rooted 5.0 verizon note 3 but I can't get twrp on it to flash any roms. I don't know if there are anyways around this so if anyone can point me to a set of instructions to read up on, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Their is no Marshmallow (android 6) ROM available that I am aware of. Perhaps we shall get lucky and their will be a Jasmine one available one day?
GCq1w2e3 said:
I'm relatively new to all of this but from what I can gather our bootloaders are still locked (anyone that hasn't flashed a different one before 4.4) I have a rooted 5.0 verizon note 3 but I can't get twrp on it to flash any roms. I don't know if there are anyways around this so if anyone can point me to a set of instructions to read up on, it'd be greatly appreciated.
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Due to an exploit you can root it now. Many android devices that were once not rootable are now rootable. You can also install custom roms, but their is still no solution for installing Boot Recoveries (like TWRP)
You can root your device through yemen one click
Then use FlashFire to install Jasmine Rom. Seems to work pretty decent for me.
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Their is no Marshmallow (android 6) ROM available that I am aware of. Perhaps we shall get lucky and their will be a Jasmine one available one day?
Due to an exploit you can root it now. Many android devices that were once not rootable are now rootable. You can also install custom roms, but their is still no solution for installing Boot Recoveries (like TWRP)
You can root your device through yemen one click
Then use FlashFire to install Jasmine Rom. Seems to work pretty decent for me.
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i know this threads old but root then do bootloader unlock and use flashify to flash recovery then flash roms and enjoy.
Most marshmallow roms currently don't support verizon sim cards. since they use CDMA towers and all MM Roms ive seen are based off Global models (GSM). I guess there are ways to work around it, but they're labor intensive and still don't seem to work well/reliably. They also still have problems with the SMS/MMS and applying their provided patch on a Verizon phone causes bootloop .
I've tried Music of life, Darklord, and Darkwolf. all have some sort of problem. i'm went back to jasmine 6.1. I made a full backup using TWRP 2.8.7 before mucking around with the other roms. so i've been playing around with roms worry free. lol but IMHO there is yet to be one worth using as a daily driver.
CM13 unofficial works pretty well but it doesn't support S-pen and all those little fancy things.
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Most marshmallow roms currently don't support verizon sim cards. since they use CDMA towers and all MM Roms ive seen are based off Global models (GSM).
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CM13 is MM derived and works fine on Verizon. (I don't know about MVNOs that use Verizon's network - I'm an "ordinary" VZW subscriber). SMS/MMS/Calls, whatever. There are a few odds and ends (e.g. NFC) that aren't working, but the things that make it a phone - SMS/MMS/calls - all have been solid in my limited usage.
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Yeah i liked cm13. It was working pretty good for me, i made a twrp recovery image so i could play with it here and there. Just no fancy touchwiz features like spen and multiwindow.
Also, On one of the s6 ported roms i could send sms and recieve sms but not mms. i was also able to get data connection. I like it the best but it still needs some polishing. I just flashed a stock deodexed lollipop rom, still taking it for a test spin to compare against jasmine 6.0. But so far i like it. If i can get more xposed modules working on this rom it may be my favorite so far. Im waiting on darkwolfs v3's release which is schedualed for this weekend .
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Yeah i liked cm13. It was working pretty good for me, i made a twrp recovery image so i could play with it here and there. Just no fancy touchwiz features like spen and multiwindow.
Also, On one of the s6 ported roms i could send sms and recieve sms but not mms. i was also able to get data connection. I like it the best but it still needs some polishing. I just flashed a stock deodexed lollipop rom, still taking it for a test spin to compare against jasmine 6.0. But so far i like it. If i can get more xposed modules working on this rom it may be my favorite so far. Im waiting on darkwolfs v3's release which is schedualed for this weekend .
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Darkwolf? I have been all over the verizon section and can't find this rom. Guessing it's a Dev now that I write this. Anyway can you share a link??
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macgyver40 said:
Darkwolf? I have been all over the verizon section and can't find this rom. Guessing it's a Dev now that I write this. Anyway can you share a link??
Sent from my SM-N900V
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yeah its not in the verizon section, its listed the general phone dev forums. Its a Galaxy S7E 6.0.1 Marshmallow Port for N9005. once v3 is released late this weekend, i'm going to run some tests on my verizon sim- N900v.
DarkWolf Rom Link
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yeah its not in the verizon section, its listed the general phone dev forums. Its a Galaxy S7E 6.0.1 Marshmallow Port for N9005. once v3 is released late this weekend, i'm going to run some tests on my verizon sim- N900v.
DarkWolf Rom Link
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I tried it. No connection to data so I went back to my stock backup. After removing a ton of apps am getting good battery life etc. Once a really good stable TW rom is released I will update.
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doombuger said:
Most marshmallow roms currently don't support verizon sim cards. since they use CDMA towers and all MM Roms ive seen are based off Global models (GSM). I guess there are ways to work around it, but they're labor intensive and still don't seem to work well/reliably. They also still have problems with the SMS/MMS and applying their provided patch on a Verizon phone causes bootloop .
I've tried Music of life, Darklord, and Darkwolf. all have some sort of problem. i'm went back to jasmine 6.1. I made a full backup using TWRP 2.8.7 before mucking around with the other roms. so i've been playing around with roms worry free. lol but IMHO there is yet to be one worth using as a daily driver.
CM13 unofficial works pretty well but it doesn't support S-pen and all those little fancy things.
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Did the same. Made all of them work for most part but couldn't rely on txt.Back on jasmine.. cm13 is best bet. Working pretty damn well
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I wish I could fix the sms issue with all the TouchWiz romsi could get them and send mms but nothing not even the fix fixed sms outgoing. data worked good on them all with a few easy fixes
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Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader HAS been unlocked
I found a thread on here showing how to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon note 3 about a month ago however everyone is still saying its locked. I would love it if someone made a port of the s7 edge and note 5 android 6.0.1 for the Verizon note 3. But, I'm simply just about done wishing since nobody can seem to realize that the bootloader IS UNLOCKED .
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I found a thread on here showing how to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon note 3 about a month ago however everyone is still saying its locked. I would love it if someone made a port of the s7 edge and note 5 android 6.0.1 for the Verizon note 3. But, I'm simply just about done wishing since nobody can seem to realize that the bootloader IS UNLOCKED .
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In terms of 'current' the Note 3 is still great hardware... But it's coming up on 3 years old and in terms of technology... That's OLD.
Most developers have moved on to bigger and better (newer) phones.
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Anyone try phronesis rom note 5 port?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...om-phronesis-rom-v1-0-stable-feature-t3241910
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Dark lord has a s7/note5 port
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Darklord rom works pretty good 6.0.1 TouchWiz and I like temasek cm13. Seems to run both pretty good so far
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Did you get data and sms on darklord's rom and if you did what was your settings to get it to work
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ST33LIO said:
I found a thread on here showing how to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon note 3
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I think it's this one: [Official] Note 3 Verizon Bootloader Unlock.
I've got a VzW Note 3 (SM-N900V) frozen at v4.4.2 using SafeStrap v3.75 (TWRP v2.7.1.0) The device and TWRP work great; I've made changes and roll backwards and forwards -- although I've only done one ROM upgrade, and that was to this specific version. BTW, Xposed and One Tap YouTube downloader now work again.
I like having a computer in my pocket but I want it to work -- phone, WiFi, BT, camera, pen, LTE, everything. Running a neat ROM where things don't function just doesn't work for me anymore.
(This, and I used to write firmware-level hard disk drivers.)
I've frozen ALL of my devices to 4.4.X -- because they all look and act exactly the same. I don't mind different apps on different devices, but they need to act the same. If I'd wanted to Think Different I'd have ibought an iApple.
Looking at v6 M to see if I can upgrade all of them.
I have tried almost every marshmallow rom made for note 3, i have a n900v and i have flashed all of this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...x-roms-5-x-6-x-rooted-note-3-verizon-t3364341
I favor darklord rom right now I setup my phone slightly different then most do in build prop don't know if it made much of a difference but if don't have the issues most do lte sms calls etc work fine for me. I have an iPhone 6 plus also jailbroken/rooted yes I like to be different hate being another sheep like everyone else with the exact same phone lmao. I like all my phone my way that's reason 1 for me not liking my Verizon s6
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