How do I perform system update without losing root? - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Galaxy S5 Verizon
My device is rooted. I am not using any ROM. How do I perform a safe and easy system update to 4.4.4 without losing my root?

xazilizax said:
Galaxy S5 Verizon
My device is rooted. I am not using any ROM. How do I perform a safe and easy system update to 4.4.4 without losing my root?
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Not sure what you are looking to gain from updating. I've been told adding mods as you like to mock update, as oppose to taking the update and losing root because of the patched exploit is the better way to go.

kprice8 said:
Not sure what you are looking to gain from updating. I've been told adding mods as you like to mock update, as oppose to taking the update and losing root because of the patched exploit is the better way to go.
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I just wanted to update just to update.

xazilizax said:
I just wanted to update just to update.
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If you do, wave good bye to root.

kprice8 said:
If you do, wave good bye to root.
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Could you Odin back to ANCG?
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eragon5779 said:
Could you Odin back to ANCG?
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Nope, locked bootloader prevents changing the kernel, so once you upgrade that's it.
To the OP: 4.4.4 for the Verizon S5 isn't even out yet.
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BadKarma81 said:
Nope, locked bootloader prevents changing the kernel, so once you upgrade that's it.
To the OP: 4.4.4 for the Verizon S5 isn't even out yet.
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Okay. Wasn't sure.
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xazilizax said:
I just wanted to update just to update.
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I saw a question just like this about a month ago and one the replies was something like this... " if you people out there want the new stuff just to be running NEW, you shouldn't even be rooted because you don't really understand the value of it. You don't even appreciate it." You should be happy, as it is, with the fact that that there are at least 5 Custom Rom's out there AND all you had to do was sideload an apk. Updates are not necessarily stable OR really add anything...usually just a patch for those that are too eager for "New", so you can't be rooted.
Why do you think there are OTA blockers on these Rom's? For a reason. It's just too easy now. You didn't even have to plug your phone into your PC and execute a console exe like for the S2. Some of us actually had to wait patiently for like a month just hoping for a developer to find an exploit! :SMH:
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Can I update System OS after Rooting?

Just rooted my N7 and when I rebooted, I got a message "System Update Available". If I update the system, will I lose root?
Try it and let us know.
from my experience with updating previous device after roooting, you will loose root after the udpate but you can still root again.
qpqpqp said:
from my experience with updating previous device after roooting, you will loose root after the udpate but you can still root again.
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But then if I have to root again, I go back to the original OS version, right? So seems like a waste of time?
dspcap said:
But then if I have to root again, I go back to the original OS version, right? So seems like a waste of time?
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are not the same things. Flash su.zip to root.
If it is an ota update...go in superuser user app and check ota survival and ur root may survive the update :thumbup:
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Manvendra05 said:
If it is an ota update...go in superuser user app and check ota survival and ur root may survive the update :thumbup:
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Lost root.. no biggie. But had problems rooting the first time, so guess I get to have fun again
theoneofgod said:
Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are not the same things. Flash su.zip to root.
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Thanks... got it updated and back to root... not too bad.
I updated and didn't lose root. How did you root in the first place.
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i rooted my N7100 after that i can not update android OS ...any help?
Manvendra05 said:
If it is an ota update...go in superuser user app and check ota survival and ur root may survive the update :thumbup:
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mahmoudhamouda said:
i rooted my N7100 after that i can not update android OS ...any help?
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Go to your device's forum for help. This section is for the nexus 7
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[Q] root for latest android 4.3 update?

I recently received the ota 4.3 update for my at&t gs4, but I've been dying to try cyanogen mod on my phone or at least be able to remove a little bloatware. Could anyone point me to a tutorial somewhere to root this thing if it's possible yet? I do have a little experience with flashing roms and rooting with my old samsung replenish, but only with odin... thanks.
-EDIT Also is kingo really malware like many people on xda say? And does kingo work with the new MJ9 build for AT&T's S4?
If you have a little experience flashing Roms than you'll be experienced in the art of Google search. There are many threads about this already
Use this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531704
Works the same for att even though its for verizon. Same root method but beware it could add malicious stuff to your phone and computer. Do a little researching first before you do anything. Good luck
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And even when your rooted there is still no custom recovery for 4.3...so no rom flashes are possible
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mg2195 said:
And even when your rooted there is still no custom recovery for 4.3...so no rom flashes are possible
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So no cyanogenmod?
HOrobOD said:
So no cyanogenmod?
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nope
Is it possible to be able flash cyanogen mod on our devices in the future?
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7mada said:
Is it possible to be able flash cyanogen mod on our devices in the future?
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Maybe. When someone smarter than I am comes up with a way to unlock the bootloader or other exploit.
jd1639 said:
Maybe. When someone smarter than I am comes up with a way to unlock the bootloader or other exploit.
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What if someone asked att to unlock the bootloader?
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7mada said:
What if someone asked att to unlock the bootloader?
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Good luck with that
jd1639 said:
Good luck with that
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Oh no !!
Then maybe I'm changing my mobile soon.
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7mada said:
Oh no !!
Then maybe I'm changing my mobile soon.
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T-Mobile is the only one that doesn't, Verizon and sprint do as well. Goodluck with everything.
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[email protected] said:
If you have a little experience flashing Roms than you'll be experienced in the art of Google search. There are many threads about this already
Use this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531704
Works the same for att even though its for verizon. Same root method but beware it could add malicious stuff to your phone and computer. Do a little researching first before you do anything. Good luck
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Thanks for the link to the tutorial. I've been looking stuff up about vroot and apparently it contains some sort of trojan... I also read a comment on YouTube where someone with the at&t MJ9 build had success with it but what are the risks other than bricking?

[Q] Root for S4 i337 MK2?

Does anyone know if there's a legit way to root s4 i337 MK2? I keep getting conflicting info.
I tried Kingo Root yesterday. So far it seems to be working great. During the process, I received several pop ups to install software that was considered potentially harmful. I cancelled each install and was still able to gain successful root. While prices was simple and took about 5 minutes.
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Embonpoint said:
I tried Kingo Root yesterday. So far it seems to be working great. During the process, I received several pop ups to install software that was considered potentially harmful. I cancelled each install and was still able to gain successful root. While prices was simple and took about 5 minutes.
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This is a paid service?
Embonpoint said:
I tried Kingo Root yesterday. So far it seems to be working great. During the process, I received several pop ups to install software that was considered potentially harmful. I cancelled each install and was still able to gain successful root. While prices was simple and took about 5 minutes.
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Ok I don't see i337 supported, which model did you choose?
root!
i just used this and it worked! THANK YOU VERY MUCH IM SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BEING ROOTED:laugh:
rightcue805 said:
i just used this and it worked! THANK YOU VERY MUCH IM SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BEING ROOTED:laugh:
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What did you use? I don't see a link or anything else
Embonpoint said:
I tried Kingo Root yesterday. So far it seems to be working great. During the process, I received several pop ups to install software that was considered potentially harmful. I cancelled each install and was still able to gain successful root. While prices was simple and took about 5 minutes.
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In the mf3 thread they said kingo is not recommended. Is there a reason it's not? I used kingo on mf3 and if it works on mk2 without problems I'd like to use again as I don't need custom recovery or roms. But I'm afraid of att updating again and it screwing my phone,
At one point, it had malicious code in it that grabbed personal data.
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HiTideBlastoise said:
At one point, it had malicious code in it that grabbed personal data.
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So again, is there a safe way to root my i337 with MK2? Running 4.3
HiTideBlastoise said:
At one point, it had malicious code in it that grabbed personal data.
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Jeesh. It worked so well too. Wish it could be reversed engineered to see what they did to root.
To answer your question, No there is no verified safe method to root MK2 if you are not already rooted prior to update.
joeybear23 said:
To answer your question, No there is no verified safe method to root MK2 if you are not already rooted prior to update.
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Do you know if anyone is working on a root for this update?
Kingo works for MK2. I can confirm it worked with no added instability or apparent issues on the 2 I337 devices I've messed with. But is it reliable? Well, it does send your IMEI to a Chinese server for some unknown reason. You can try Vroot if you want but it's definitely not as 'user friendly' if you catch my drift.
fnkyscotty said:
Do you know if anyone is working on a root for this update?
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So this definitely works? Now I've never had it rooted so this would be a first time root. Can you post a link
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fnkyscotty said:
Do you know if anyone is working on a root for this update?
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I am sure somebody is... not me though.
fnkyscotty said:
So this definitely works? Now I've never had it rooted so this would be a first time root. Can you post a link
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XDA evidently considers Kingo malware, so no link from here. But just type "kingo galaxy s4 root" into Google and it should be the top result. Their website states that it is for the i9500, but it has been confirmed for the i337. As always, USE THIS PROCEDURE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
We have a safe new root method if you guys want to try it. This is confirmed working on the VZW S4 but should work for you guys too. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48392009
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Can anyone confirm whether or not this works on i337?
Surge1223 said:
We have a safe new root method if you guys want to try it. This is confirmed working on the VZW S4 but should work for you guys too. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48392009
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I'm AT&T who is willing to test?
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fnkyscotty said:
I'm AT&T who is willing to test?
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I'm trying to get it to work im on MK2 stock....I'm at work though so i'll report back if I get it done.

[Q] Root method 4.4.2?

Hi i was just wondering if there has been a root method for the 4.4.2 OTA update. I updated a few weeks back and have been dying for root access.
The baseband version is N900VVRUCNC4.
Thanks in advance!
Notta
Like I said. Oughta sticky one of these so there aren't 8 million threads asking the same question.
droidstyle said:
Notta
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Think there's any possibility we'll get it? I would hate to have to sell this device and move on
Im sure there will be in time?
Would we be able to downgrade thru Odin and then root and then flash rooted version of 4.4.2?
MSI1SuPeRmAn said:
Im sure there will be in time?
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I hope so. I really should have rooted earlier lol
Merckle said:
Would we be able to downgrade thru Odin and then root and then flash rooted version of 4.4.2?
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Not at this point in time.
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Doubt it...most of the devs that might be capable moved on from Verizon and really do not care. The reason being soon as a exploit is found and released it then is patched by the next update. It's a cat and mouse game not worth playing. There are methods out there that allow you have rooted 4.4.2, The sticky at the top of this section explains it all. "Never Accept OTA Updates".
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Doubt it...most of the devs that might be capable moved on from Verizon and really do not care. The reason being soon as a exploit is found and released it then is patched by the next update. It's a cat and mouse game not worth playing. There are methods out there that allow you have rooted 4.4.2, The sticky at the top of this section explains it all. "Never Accept OTA Updates".
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I found this out there do you think this might work for root access....
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galax...oid-4-4-2-kitkat-install-cwm-recovery-1435188
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waco2hot33 said:
I found this out there do you think this might work for root access....
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galax...oid-4-4-2-kitkat-install-cwm-recovery-1435188
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Good fine hopefully it does but be careful don't know if it matters or not but it does trip knox and it says sm-900 so if you can afford to go for then go.let us know what happens.
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waco2hot33 said:
I found this out there do you think this might work for root access....
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galax...oid-4-4-2-kitkat-install-cwm-recovery-1435188
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No The Verizon N3 is model N900V and this article deals with the UK model N900
Also, in the UK the status of the Knox warranty counter doesn't matter. In the US it does.
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donc113 said:
No The Verizon N3 is model N900V and this article deals with the UK model N900
Also, in the UK the status of the Knox warranty counter doesn't matter. In the US it does.
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Thanks @donc113 I wasn't sure ...thanks for clearing that up for us ..
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waco2hot33 said:
Thanks @donc113 I wasn't sure ...thanks for clearing that up for us ..
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Did anyone actually try this? How did it go?
neur0t0xin64 said:
Did anyone actually try this? How did it go?
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nope never tried it myself didn't want to take the chance after donc replied..
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You can now root without knox tripping.

Wasn't sure if any of you knew about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Basically you can now root the S5 and NOT trip knox.
Really it seems to be most phones that are 4.2.2 work.
This doesn't get you a boot loader etc. but gives root at least for those wanting to not risk warranty and get the bloat off.
bryanu said:
Wasn't sure if any of you knew about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
Basically you can now root the S5 and NOT trip knox.
Really it seems to be most phones that are 4.2.2 work.
This doesn't get you a boot loader etc. but gives root at least for those wanting to not risk warranty and get the bloat off.
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Works great. No issues for me.
Eassiest root ever!
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Already a post on here with this information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785065 . Mods should shut this one down to lessen confusion.
mmark27 said:
Already a post on here with this information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785065 . Mods should shut this one down to lessen confusion.
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Woops, didn't catch that when I looked this AM, it wasn't in this section of the forum though.
Sorry about that :/
That one is closed too though FWIW and when it was closed it was just moved here.
After the simplest root ever, how does one go about a custom recovery? Do we still have to odin that or is it flashable?
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BubZX said:
After the simplest root ever, how does one go about a custom recovery? Do we still have to odin that or is it flashable?
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If you do custom recovery you will trip knox making this method for you to root having been useless and you should have used one of the other options that does it all at once hah.
Can you use this root method and get the hotspot mod working without a custom recovery?
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I've been wondering that exact same thing! And also if we can root NE5 with it!
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In regards to flashing hotspot mods etc. Without a custom recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583199
I found this forum while looking for an answer, does anyone have any input if this method will work for the s5??
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fgcchevy said:
Can you use this root method and get the hotspot mod working without a custom recovery?
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This:
crawrj said:
You can but you need to be aware that you can get stuck in a boot loop. But if you are willing to take the risk.
Download the Odex version that matches your system, this is critical. Extract the services.jar and services.odex files. Use a root explorer to copy them to /system/framework. Change permissions to rw-r-r. Reboot and it will either work or not.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727127&page=9
Awesome. I just got my S5 today and I knew that 4.4.2 Ota wasn't rootable yet. Thank to everyone who pits effort into making our devices OURS and not our carriers. ??
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