Found an app called GL to SD that works on the mad catz m.o.j.o,it automatically transfers your current games to the installed external sd card,i can verify that the space is regained when the apps are moved to the sd.It's a great app and it is free to download in the google play store,this should put an end to having to use folder mount and direct the app to the folders besides the fact folder mount did not work for me at all,another great thing is in the app when the games are mounted it has a play button next to them just click and play your games.I am unsure what will occur if you uninstall it and the space then used is above the space required to store the additional games you add to it?
If someone would like to test the theory what happens if games exceed the internal storage size when using GLto SD then you remove GL to SD app then please let me know the result of that test.
I'd like to say that before i used this app i had a mere 5.xgb left and now i have 9.7x gb left in the internal storage big smile
PHYSC-1 said:
Found an app called GL to SD that works on the mad catz m.o.j.o,it automatically transfers your current games to the installed external sd card,i can verify that the space is regained when the apps are moved to the sd.It's a great app and it is free to download in the google play store,this should put an end to having to use folder mount and direct the app to the folders besides the fact folder mount did not work for me at all,another great thing is in the app when the games are mounted it has a play button next to them just click and play your games.I am unsure what will occur if you uninstall it and the space then used is above the space required to store the additional games you add to it?
If someone would like to test the theory what happens if games exceed the internal storage size when using GLto SD then you remove GL to SD app then please let me know the result of that test.
I'd like to say that before i used this app i had a mere 5.xgb left and now i have 9.7x gb left in the internal storage big smile
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Nice! I will certainly give this a try. Thanks for the heads up!
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Nice! I will certainly give this a try. Thanks for the heads up!
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Not sure how many games you can add for free as noticed it has pro in the top right corner,so my guess is it may limit it to 2 games in free mode,just as you get in folder mount,i could be wrong for someone to teste this would be awesome.It's still good enough for me so far any way it has worked flawlessly with 2 games listed.
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Not sure how many games you can add for free as noticed it has pro in the top right corner,so my guess is it may limit it to 2 games in free mode,just as you get in folder mount,i could be wrong for someone to teste this would be awesome.It's still good enough for me so far any way it has worked flawlessly with 2 games listed.
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No, it works with multiple games. Pro version does not seem to add much more to the plate, but supports the developer. I have added 12 games. Not every game shows up on the list, but who cares. This saved me 10GB!
Edit: Pro version adds mount on boot and 100 custom slots. Not necessary to purchase, but I just did as I support devs who make good applications
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No, it works with multiple games. Pro version does not seem to add much more to the plate, but supports the developer. I have added 12 games. Not every game shows up on the list, but who cares. This saved me 10GB!
Edit: Pro version adds mount on boot and 100 custom slots. Not necessary to purchase, but I just did as I support devs who make good applications
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That's some great news,but a little bad with the missing games although there's not much that helps with storage in terms of apps that can read the m.o.j.o well.So it's a major bonus to have such a fine app for it.:laugh:
Careful with this app...there are some issues. I discovered tonight after moving a few games over that if you try to access your games before your HD is completely mounted (I rebooted and tried to launch a game before the HD was fully available) all mount settings revert back to the internal storage. In other words, no games would launch as they were looking once again at their original locations for installation. I tried to fix this in the app settings by re-pointing the games to their storage area on my HD, but the app would not allow navigation outside of the internal storage. Long story short I had to re-install my games. I probably could have copied the data and obb folders from my USB hd back to the internal storage, recovered game list and moved them again, but I got lazy and simply reinstalled the 6 or 7 games I moved previouslyy. That said, I think I'll stay away from this unless absolutely necessary, or until the dev fixes some bugs and provides a method to move items back AND forth to avoid any headaches.
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Careful with this app...there are some issues. I discovered tonight after moving a few games over that if you try to access your games before your HD is completely mounted (I rebooted and tried to launch a game before the HD was fully available) all mount settings revert back to the internal storage. In other words, no games would launch as they were looking once again at their original locations for installation. I tried to fix this in the app settings by re-pointing the games to their storage area on my HD, but the app would not allow navigation outside of the internal storage. Long story short I had to re-install my games. I probably could have copied the data and obb folders from my USB hd back to the internal storage, recovered game list and moved them again, but I got lazy and simply reinstalled the 6 or 7 games I moved previouslyy. That said, I think I'll stay away from this unless absolutely necessary, or until the dev fixes some bugs and provides a method to move items back AND forth to avoid any headaches.
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There always seems to be a catch with the m.o.j.o in every way for me,the games for tegra 4 coming out in tegrazone now aren't compatible until kitkat 4.4 comes out for it either now.Found out shadowgun deadzone don't work says for tegra 3 devices only? It's getting to be a pain,i blame the os a bit and nvidia and mad catz for taking the [email protected] bringing kitkat onto the device.There doesn't seem any of the gaming to play when that's what it was designed for and sold for.
Now we have a problem with the only half decent storage moving app i could find for it,someone needs to make a bug free os for it or mad catz need telling straight to get kitkat out asap.As you can tell i'm venting my disgust.Thanks for letting us know about the app problem though it's good of you to test it.
What i'm prodominantly interested in right now is will a bluetooth headset use voice control on it? Or is that another feature we cannot use?
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There always seems to be a catch with the m.o.j.o in every way for me,the games for tegra 4 coming out in tegrazone now aren't compatible until kitkat 4.4 comes out for it either now.Found out shadowgun deadzone don't work says for tegra 3 devices only? It's getting to be a pain,i blame the os a bit and nvidia and mad catz for taking the [email protected] bringing kitkat onto the device.There doesn't seem any of the gaming to play when that's what it was designed for and sold for.
Now we have a problem with the only half decent storage moving app i could find for it,someone needs to make a bug free os for it or mad catz need telling straight to get kitkat out asap.As you can tell i'm venting my disgust.Thanks for letting us know about the app problem though it's good of you to test it.
What i'm prodominantly interested in right now is will a bluetooth headset use voice control on it? Or is that another feature we cannot use?
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This app problem is just that...an app problem. I do not think this particular issue is specific to the Mojo. It is just want to app did to me when the drive was not fully mounted. It needs to not allow a game launch until it detects the hard drive and saved folders are there.
There were a few versions of Shadowgun. A Tegra 3 only version and a "non-Tegra" version. I recall I had to run the "Non-Tegra" version on my Ericsson Xperia Play (due to no Tegra chip in it) and it worked fine. Looked exactly the same actually Look for the non-Tegra vesion.
If the game is designed for one chip (like the "Tegra 3 only" games) it is not the fault of the Tegra 4 or Mojo that they will not load. The game devs should be less restricting with the blocking, but I guess they are scared people will buy Tegra only games, try to run them on a Rockchip or some other processor and they will not work and people will be asking for refunds in droves
Nvidia is of course making these Tegra 4 games "exclusive" to their device first and foremost...it is their store and processor anyway I am sure you will see these games available for a wider array of Tegra 4 devices...that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.It is still relatively new.
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This app problem is just that...an app problem. I do not think this particular issue is specific to the Mojo. It is just want to app did to me when the drive was not fully mounted. It needs to not allow a game launch until it detects the hard drive and saved folders are there.
There were a few versions of Shadowgun. A Tegra 3 only version and a "non-Tegra" version. I recall I had to run the "Non-Tegra" version on my Ericsson Xperia Play (due to no Tegra chip in it) and it worked fine. Looked exactly the same actually Look for the non-Tegra vesion.
If the game is designed for one chip (like the "Tegra 3 only" games) it is not the fault of the Tegra 4 or Mojo that they will not load. The game devs should be less restricting with the blocking, but I guess they are scared people will buy Tegra only games, try to run them on a Rockchip or some other processor and they will not work and people will be asking for refunds in droves
Nvidia is of course making these Tegra 4 games "exclusive" to their device first and foremost...it is their store and processor anyway I am sure you will see these games available for a wider array of Tegra 4 devices...that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.It is still relatively new.
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I know it's pretty scarce at present for games i have to say that,but these newer games should be a stark warning to mad catz being as they are 4.4 kitkat only so surely they need to think about moving quicker with the impending update they promise to release.
I have just found no bluetooth headset works on it that i have can't fathom it out,on there forum they put plug in mic in headphone port tried a standalone mic as well in there but no reaction voice controll wise and no audio over bluetooth?
It is still relatively new.
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New?
The Tegra 4 device Toshiba Excite Pro came out on June 4, 2013 on Amazone, so 11 mounts ago and you call that relatively new, sorry but in
the Android and computer world that mean it's old.
The Toshiba Excite Write came out on July 7, 2013
The NVIDIA SHIELD came out on July 31 2013
The HP Slate 21-k100 came out on August 22 2013.
The HP Slate S8-7600US came out on November 2 2013.
The HP Slate S7-4400US came out on November 17 2013.
The EVGA Tegra Note 7 came out on December 5 2013.
The Mad Catz M.O.J.O. came out on December 10 2013.
The Kobo Arc 10HD came out on January 11 2014.
The HP Slate 7 Extreme came out on January 14, 2014.
The ASUS Tablet TF701 came out on March 18 2014.
The Xiaomi Mi3 came out on April 2014.
that is when you start seeing more Tegra 4 devices on the market.
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And that all on the Amazon.com, That are 12 different Tegra 4 devices, so there are plenty of Tegra 4 devices available, and not a view, like you want us to think.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-phones-tablets.html
AmigaWolf said:
New?
The Tegra 4 device Toshiba Excite Pro came out on June 4, 2013 on Amazone, so 11 mounts ago and you call that relatively new, sorry but in
the Android and computer world that mean it's old.
The Toshiba Excite Write came out on July 7, 2013
The NVIDIA SHIELD came out on July 31 2013
The HP Slate 21-k100 came out on August 22 2013.
The HP Slate S8-7600US came out on November 2 2013.
The HP Slate S7-4400US came out on November 17 2013.
The EVGA Tegra Note 7 came out on December 5 2013.
The Mad Catz M.O.J.O. came out on December 10 2013.
The Kobo Arc 10HD came out on January 11 2014.
The HP Slate 7 Extreme came out on January 14, 2014.
The ASUS Tablet TF701 came out on March 18 2014.
The Xiaomi Mi3 came out on April 2014.
And that all on the Amazon.com, That are 12 different Tegra 4 devices, so there are plenty of Tegra 4 devices available, and not a view, like you want us to think.
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Cool list. You should contact Nvidia and all of these manufacturers individually and ask them why there are Tegra 4 Shield only exclusives, and why they have not been allowed to run on ALL of these alternate Tegra 4 devices. Thank you for helping to prove that this issue is not specifically a Mad Catz Mojo issue, but rather an issue of Tegra 4 supported games being opened up to other Tegra 4 devices.
Still, the fact is that Tegra 4 is still the most powerful chip on the market (don't start talking about Rockchips that have yet to be released please) and the Mojo is the most powerful set-top box available for purchase today. Point me to another (that IS available) and I am all ears. If you cannot do that, please stop hijacking threads with nonsense.
What was the purpose of your post? To point out that the Tegra 4 was not "brand new"? It is under a year old...I consider that new. I don't give a rats ass if you don't. The other chips out there currently are as old or older.
We are talking about Tegra 4 game support in this thread, so again, keep it on topic or simply go Guru meditate yourself.
And, it is "Amazon", not "Amazone". Please use your spell checker as you make these typing errors quite often.
zektor said:
Cool list. You should contact Nvidia and all of these manufacturers individually and ask them why there are Tegra 4 Shield only exclusives, and why they have not been allowed to run on ALL of these alternate Tegra 4 devices. Thank you for helping to prove that this issue is not specifically a Mad Catz Mojo issue, but rather an issue of Tegra 4 supported games being opened up to other Tegra 4 devices.
Still, the fact is that Tegra 4 is still the most powerful chip on the market (don't start talking about Rockchips that have yet to be released please) and the Mojo is the most powerful set-top box available for purchase today. Point me to another (that IS available) and I am all ears. If you cannot do that, please stop hijacking threads with nonsense.
What was the purpose of your post? To point out that the Tegra 4 was not "brand new"? It is under a year old...I consider that new. I don't give a rats ass if you don't. The other chips out there currently are as old or older.
We are talking about Tegra 4 game support in this thread, so again, keep it on topic or simply to Guru meditate.
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Please don't say b*llsh*t the Tegra 4 is NOT still the most powerful chip on the market, the GPU in the Snapdragon 600 is as fast as the Tegra 4, just
look at all the benchmarks out there, and the Snapdragon 800 and 801 is faster then the Tegra 4, so please don't tell fairy tales that the Tegra 4 is a Über
chip, because it's NOT.
And the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. set-top box is not the fastes available for purchase today, because the Amazon Fire Tv is about as fast as the Mad Catz
M.O.J.O.
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Please don't say b*llsh*t the Tegra 4 is NOT still the most powerful chip on the market, the GPU in the Snapdragon 600 is as fast as the Tegra 4, just look at all the benchmarks out there, and the Snapdragon 800 and 801 is faster then the Tegra 4, so please don't tell fairy tales that the
Tegra 4 is a Über chip, because it's NOT.
And the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. set-top box is not the fastes available for purchase today, because the Amazon Fire Tv is about as fast as the Mad Catz
M.O.J.O.
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Please link to us the set top box that has this Snapdragon chip. We are not talking tablets or handhelds here. The Mojo is an android set top box, so you need to show people that there exists a more powerful SET TOP box. The Fire TV is not it, sorry.
And again we are off of the topic because of you. Please stick with the flow of the topic. We last we were discussing why Tegra 4 games have not been opened up to other devices, in case you forgot.
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Please link to us the set top box that has this Snapdragon chip. We are not talking tablets or handhelds here. The Mojo is an android set top box, so you need to show people that there exists a more powerful SET TOP box. The Fire TV is not it, sorry.
And again we are off of the topic because of you. Please stick with the flow of the topic. We last we were discussing why Tegra 4 games have not been opened up to other devices, in case you forgot.
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Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
fluently.
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Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
fluently.
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No, no, no. I am very sorry. You are not convincing anybody...and you are not staying on topic.
While you are at it (ruining threads that is), why don't you tell people what the downsides of the FireTV are:
1. Proprietary custom android. Forget Playstore..you can't get it!
2. No root!
3. No sideloading!
4. No keyboard support!
5. Sub par performance compared to Tegra 4!
6. No support for Tegra accelerated games (no Tegra!)
You were probably the guy who told everyone to buy a Radio Shack Coco3 at the height of the C64 era. Go away now.
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No, no, no. I am very sorry. You are not convincing anybody...and you are not staying on topic.
While you are at it (ruining threads that is), why don't you tell people what the downsides of the FireTV are:
1. Proprietary custom android. Forget Playstore..you can't get it!
2. No root!
3. No sideloading!
4. No keyboard support!
5. Sub par performance compared to Tegra 4!
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How is it living under a rock?
And on this XDA forum you can change allot on the Amazon Fire TV.
It does not need Root to play all the games, not like the Mad Catz M.O.J.O.
YES it has keyboard support.
No you do not NEED Google Play, or do iOS devices also have Goole Play?
Performance is good, look for yourself on Youtube and ALL the other websites.
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How is it living under a rock?
And on this XDA forum you can change allot on the Amazon Fire TV.
It does not need Root to play all the games, not like the Mad Catz M.O.J.O.
YES it has keyboard support.
No you do not NEED Google Play, or do iOS devices also have Goole Play?
Performance is good, look for yourself on Youtube and ALL the other websites.
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Here is a link to the Mojo for you to repurchase it:
http://www.amazon.com/M-O-J-O-Micro-Console-Android-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B00FM5IS48/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400013378&sr=8-1&keywords=mad+catz+mojo
Don't worry, I won't tell anyone you repurchased it after talking so much smack.
I have to say if you look at the time it took for large numbers of games to emerge on the tegra 3 specifically for a tegra 3,well then it is absolutely no surprise that it appears the same is happening with the tegra 4.It does take time,i am for one loosing patience but i am sitting here waiting none the less although i have to say venting about it as well,lol.
So it's i think more a case of kitkat fixes a lot like for shield and i am assuming with the m.o.j.o,and maybe that is why they are taking their time, not to mention the ouya everywhere project,i imagine it's going to be in preperation for a huge update which may introduce better controller compatability as well i hope it does any way we need that big time to.
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Amazon Fire Tv
Amazon Fire Game Controller
Yes the Amazon Fire TV is it, they even tel that, it's also a game console, and it have absolutely no problems playing good 3D games, they all run
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By the way, Antutu benchmark scored 20561 on the FireTV according to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Md5_P_WDzI
I just ran Antutu on the Mojo and it scored 31552. Yeah, no....FireTV is NOT more powerful. Still waiting on your list of Snapdragon set top boxes buddy. Please show us a set top box that can outperform the Mojo. I am waiting!
And, here is a YouTube video showing 31724 score on the Mojo, just to back up my claim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6R8HvGWy4k
Hmm, 20,000 vs 30,000. FireTV is better, eh? Bah. And, it is also NOT a games console. Amazon says so themselves
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/amazon-fire-tv-is-absolutely-not-a-game-console/1100-6418731/
If everyone listened to you, they would end up with sub-par equipment. You should not even have the "Amiga" in your name, it is an embarrassment to the Amiga. Please rename yourself to "STwolf". That would be more adequate.
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Please show us a set top box that can outperform the Mojo. I am waiting!
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The mojo isn't the most powerful, especially now that steambox is coming out.. but it's the most powerful ANDROID topset box.
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You should not even have the "Amiga" in your name, it is an embarrassment to the Amiga. Please rename yourself to "STwolf". That would be more adequate.
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LOL Hard!.. that's funny
@AmigaWolf, please get a fireTV and let us know after a week or two how you like it... don't spam here if you don't have one.. really
I know your very demanding (from your tech), so I hope you don't buy something that's useless to you, just for the sack of saving $50
Good luck.
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Just found this gaming tablet that could possibly kill the xperia play: http://eurodroid.com/2012/08/29/archos-gamepad-7-android-4-0-gaming-tablet/
It's a seven inch archos gaming tablet running ice cream sandwich. It has two proper touchpads/joysticks and is 1.5GHZ dual-core.
And at £130, it seems like a good deal. Release date is October
Two things
1. The Xperia Play is pretty close to dead, Sony doesn't really support it anymore, its outdated, and its only a matter of time before the new games won't play on it.
2. This tablet is made by Archos, long time purveyors of junky Android products. And its not a phone. This thing firstly is no competition for the Play and secondly is barely going to sell anyway, and the ones that do aren't gonna work very well.
This is the only alternative to the Play. Or connecting ps3 controller to phone/tablet (eww)
Besides the cheap Android handheld with no warranties.
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I think it does sound pretty interesting, I noticed it here:
http://www.slashgear.com/archos-gamepad-gets-physical-for-android-gaming-29244285/
Sounds like they're even incorporating something similar to GameKeyboard to provide physical-button to touchscreen mapping, with automatic game recognition.
Henri Crohas, ARCHOS Founder and CEO noted that “thanks to the mapping and automatic game recognition systems included on the GamePad, we already have over a thousand android games compatible with the ARCHOS GamePad’s physical controls, including back catalog titles that originally didn’t include physical controls.”
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Sounds pretty cool, but not sure if it'll be what I'm interested in for a tablet - which I don't see as a direct competitor for the Xperia Play. I was hoping Sony would announce a new gaming phone, but it doesn't look like it yet...
~Troop
Just adding Droid-Life's post about the Archos device...
Bought a 7" Archos tablet for my younger sister.. I have no complaints about their devices.
But I will never ditch the Xperia Play regardless if its "dead" to anyone
Droid-Life link
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/2...ail&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
I must say that this device does certainly look good, as long as the price is right and looks anything like the render shown I`ll certainly be interested.
I am no tech-head, but is not Nexus 7 already more powerful than this? I mean with Tegra 3 and stuff...
I am seriously contemplating getting a Nexus 7 for games and I thought pairing it with a bluetooth PS3 controller wasn't such a bad idea, for HOME gaming of course.
Could somebody prove me wrong, or convince me that this Argos thing is a better solution?
No it doesn't... This is a tablet. Tablet and phones are two different things
The Nexus 7 is more powerful than this and is likely a better device. The Archos tablet has a gamepad which seems to be it's big selling point. The gamepad doesn't look detachable though so isn't like the gamepad seen on the wikipad tablet which is more powerful or just as powerful as the nexus 7. I read somewhere that this Archos device automatically takes games that don't use the controls and makes them work even if they aren't optimised. From what i've read, it'll be under 200 dollars
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I read somewhere that this Archos device automatically takes games that don't use the controls and makes them work even if they aren't optimised. From what i've read, it'll be under 200 dollars
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Yeah I saw that in a description for the device, it`s using a patented system and currently has compatibility with over a thousand games, I would assume it also has the ability to have the on screen controls programmed in aswell which would expand it further.
If it does indeed release at that price I think I will most likely purchase it as that would be exceptional value for money.
Its actually stated about the controls and the price on eurogamer
I'll admit i'm quite tempted by this and can see myself buying one. The price is good, cheaper than my play (£150 Sim Free, it looks like this it will be a little cheaper).
I have heard bad things about Archos but who hasn't heard bad things about sony and still loves their play?
A gaming tablet with dual core processor.... I don't think that you can play the newest games with highest textures on this thing...
Sorry for my bad English. It's not my native language.
There are also details of the Wikipad floating about which will have a 10.1" screen with a resolution of 1280x800 and has "Nvidia Tegra 3 T30 1.4 GHz processor, and it will run with 1 GB of DDR2 RAM, and at least 16 GB of internal Flash memory storage". Sounds interesting again, its control pad will be a detachable one.
I've seen a lot of these physical controller solutions brag about being an Xperia Play killer... and ALL of them have failed to get good software/developer support. Most of them don't even hit a 4th of Xperia Play's game compatibility count, and thusly end up in the tier of crap that isn't good for anything but emulation. Xperia Play is the first and only to get relevant, this-generation games. It's good as an emulator, but doesn't have to piggyback off older systems' works to have awesome content... can't say that about the Gametel Controller, iControlPad and others.
So there's no secret that I'm a bit skeptical about this projected figure of 1000 games... if they're serious about that, then we truly would have the first device since Xperia Play to add physical controls AND enough developer support to matter. Don't get me wrong, I'm interested and stoked... but at the same time, skeptical and already seeing problems (size, obviously terrible d-pad).
I know what you mean TLR, but this Archos tablet seems like it will play any xperia play optimised game and maybe some more
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Game support shouldn't be too difficult if they can do something like GameKeyboard with the ability to load/save/share profiles. This is something Sony should have done with the Xperia play, instead of leaving us completely reliant on each individual company/dev.
That said, Xperia PLAY is a phone and this a tablet and so the two shouldn't be compared. I don't see myself getting this.. why? the whole point of the Xperia PLAY was to get a phone and gaming in one reasonably sized device. If I didn't mind carrying something of this size around with me, with gaming in mind, I'd just buy a Vita.
can i call my friends?
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can i call my friends?
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With Skype, I don't see why not?
This thing is way too huge. 3.5 or 4 inches would have been perfect. 7 inches too big to be portable.
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can we have call with that ?
- No
so the xperia play is still the one !
Rogue Leader said:
2. This tablet is made by Archos, long time purveyors of junky Android products. And its not a phone. This thing firstly is no competition for the Play and secondly is barely going to sell anyway, and the ones that do aren't gonna work very well.
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I had several Archos products in the past and while their hardware is good, I dislike their business practice so there is no chance of me buying their future products. Things such as lacking of firmware upgrade and instead bringing out incremental model upgrade. Also locking the harddrive serial to the firmware so you cannot replace it if it dies, I know new devices use flash memory now, but point is I don't see them as a company being close to its fan community. Just my 2 cents.
Just released to the Tegra Zone! When can we see this on the MOJO? Thoughts?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nvidia.valvesoftware.portal
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nvidia.valvesoftware.halflife2
Wait...Were they just released, or am I just noticing them because they were updated today?
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Just released to the Tegra Zone! When can we see this on the MOJO? Thoughts?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nvidia.valvesoftware.portal
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nvidia.valvesoftware.halflife2
Wait...Were they just released, or am I just noticing them because they were updated today?
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They were announced at the end of last week. In the announcements it was stated as released for the Shield only for both. I'm sure at some point it will be available on other Tegra 4 devices.
Dang. That's what I get for not hitting my usual news sites in a month. Thanks for the heads up, though.
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Dang. That's what I get for not hitting my usual news sites in a month. Thanks for the heads up, though.
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They were just release afaik. Someone needs to rip the APK and try it on the Mojo. Or, we need a way to spoof the Play Store into thinking the Mojo is a Shield. I'd buy it just to try I love Portal. I am sure it would work fine on the Mojo.
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They were just release afaik. Someone needs to rip the APK and try it on the Mojo. Or, we need a way to spoof the Play Store into thinking the Mojo is a Shield. I'd buy it just to try I love Portal. I am sure it would work fine on the Mojo.
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I have a ripped copy on my Nexus 7 flo, it crashes getting to the menu.
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I can confirm, HL2 is working on the TegraNote 7 with a MOGA Pro controller attached via Blutooth
Not working on Nexus 7 (2013) and Galaxy S5 (native and with GLTools).
has anyone tried it on a Tegra 3 Device? Ouya anyone?
Just ordered a Shield anyway but it won't arrive in the next 2-3 weeks. (Shipping from Hong Kong) ...
They ie.portal/half life 2 for tegra 4 are a waste of time for now on the mad catz m.o.j.o,they are not telling anyone next to the game icon on the list that they are only useable with android 4.4 kitkat,therefore i bet loads of these upcoming and current games are,also the shadowgun deadzone game i tried and says only for tegra 3 devices,it's a right @rse to list games but not tell you what they do/do not work on,bounty arms isn't working with the m.o.j.o controller either,so it does beg a big question that is why are mad catz selling the C.T.R.L as an android phone controller as a seperate item if the compatability is all but none existant in the current games,they really need to get to it and release 4.4 kitkat for the mad catz m.o.j.o and a controller compatability update to flash with software via the usb port under the batteres.
A friend of mine is supplying me with Portal from his Shied to test on the Mojo tonight. I will let you guys know if it works...I am very curious.
any chance for this to run on a non tegra device?
like the last hack made by chaineFIre wich was awesome and enabled me to run dead trigger at its full on my aging mali 400 :<
I really need to upgrade to a snaodragon 805,810 or an Nvidia K1:crying:
I really cant decide weather to get an Nvidia device or not since im in love with the galaxy note series but sadly they never come with tegra cpu's
maybe I should just get a vita and keep my n7100 for a long while since im in dire need for a gaming handheld
I wish somewhere in an alternate univers we get to see a note 4 with a k1 processor:cyclops:
but that will never happen lol
No, won't run on my snapdragon nexus 7.
From what if heard elsewhere you can't even install it unless you have KitKat.
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No, won't run on my snapdragon nexus 7.
From what if heard elsewhere you can't even install it unless you have KitKat.
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running kitkat and no luck on mali 400 gpu
so surprisingly borderlands 2 gets ported to the vita but we cant run HL2 on a snapdragon 801 ?????
hmmm seems like a driver hack should do the trick
The problem is that Nvidia worked on it and optimized it for Tegra 4.
I'm not sure whether it performs just an GPU ID check or it actually does require Tegra 4-only features/extensions.
I don't think we can get it to work on other devices without a wrapper.
I tried Half Life 2 on my Tegra Note 7, but my game crashes when i try to load the first level.
The main menu works fine.
I am using an EVGA Tegra Note 7, Android 4.4.2 and a Xbox360 Controller.
Any tips?
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I tried Half Life 2 on my Tegra Note 7, but my game crashes when i try to load the first level.
The main menu works fine.
I am using an EVGA Tegra Note 7, Android 4.4.2 and a Xbox360 Controller.
Any tips?
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Sadly have to confirm this...
First part is working, but as soon as Freeman is fleeing from the Combine and the second part is loading it crashes.
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Sadly have to confirm this...
First part is working, but as soon as Freeman is fleeing from the Combine and the second part is loading it crashes.
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Can anyone confirm if the crash is due to lack of RAM? Remember our Tegra Note 7s only come with 1 GB of RAM while the SHIELD and M.O.J.O come with 2 GB. It could be crashing because it couldn't load the entire level into memory.
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Can anyone confirm if the crash is due to lack of RAM? Remember our Tegra Note 7s only come with 1 GB of RAM while the SHIELD and M.O.J.O come with 2 GB. It could be crashing because it couldn't load the entire level into memory.
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Well half life 2 doesnt load maps like that. Its loads it section by sections so i seriously doubt they changed it for android to load the entire level that would require regretting alot of the engine. Online multiplayer games it will load the whole map but for the single player it did not thats why you got that loading bit while running or driving around.
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Well half life 2 doesnt load maps like that. Its loads it section by sections so i seriously doubt they changed it for android to load the entire level that would require regretting alot of the engine. Online multiplayer games it will load the whole map but for the single player it did not thats why you got that loading bit while running or driving around.
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Yes it does.
Moga pocket
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Yes it does.
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Can i play half life 2 on my tegra 4 tablet with 2G of ram with moga pocket ( i dont have root for ps3/xbox360 gamepad )
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Can i play half life 2 on my tegra 4 tablet with 2G of ram with moga pocket ( i dont have root for ps3/xbox360 gamepad )
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Um.. maybe? I think it requires Android 4.4 too
After all the hype this past summer about Android TV powered by NVidia I spent the last half of 2014 keeping my eyes peeled for Android TV news. Then the release of the Nexus with atom/vr was a big disappointment! Now of all things Razer which I thought for sure would use NVidia goes for Qualcomm another disappointment! There is the upcoming Snail Games OBox which looks interesting but does not appear to be Android TV based? Am I the only one who would like a K1 or for that matter X1 powered box? Yes I admit I am a NVidia fan I can notice graphics that come from NVidia colors are different just personal choice.
Contrary to what most of you here enjoy(Mods, Sideloading, etc.) these things should be a choice not something that has to be done to make the system work for such things as storage for games? I currently own FireTV, Madcatz Mojo, Ouya, ADT1 and it seems to me that android still has a way to go before it truely is ready for the living room out of the box? The issue is difficult one player has HBO Go while the other can load apps and Kodi I have been searching for that box that can do all of this DAY 1 ? I am getting older and while I enjoy reading this forum and all the talent it contains I just don't have the energy to perform all these mods just to get what I consider to be that perfect box that just works when you plug it in:victory:?
Very true. I'd consider myself an Android "enthusiast" and got the original Logitech Google TV and then the Sony Google TV. Big disappointments! The Nexus Player is great when compared to those two, but I'm only using it for games right now. The Roku 3 is still superior in terms of media consumption - at least in my eyes.
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After all the hype this past summer about Android TV powered by NVidia I spent the last half of 2014 keeping my eyes peeled for Android TV news. Then the release of the Nexus with atom/vr was a big disappointment! Now of all things Razer which I thought for sure would use NVidia goes for Qualcomm another disappointment! There is the upcoming Snail Games OBox which looks interesting but does not appear to be Android TV based? Am I the only one who would like a K1 or for that matter X1 powered box? Yes I admit I am a NVidia fan I can notice graphics that come from NVidia colors are different just personal choice.
Contrary to what most of you here enjoy(Mods, Sideloading, etc.) these things should be a choice not something that has to be done to make the system work for such things as storage for games? I currently own FireTV, Madcatz Mojo, Ouya, ADT1 and it seems to me that android still has a way to go before it truely is ready for the living room out of the box? The issue is difficult one player has HBO Go while the other can load apps and Kodi I have been searching for that box that can do all of this DAY 1 ? I am getting older and while I enjoy reading this forum and all the talent it contains I just don't have the energy to perform all these mods just to get what I consider to be that perfect box that just works when you plug it in:victory:?
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While I don`t disagree with you, you can wait forever for the latest hardware or UI. There will always be a better chip or box just around the corner and that next release of code is coming any day now. The way I look at it is we are at about gen 1-2 of these devices (I have had a couple already) with a few more to go. You can either sit on the sidelines for another 1-2 years or understand the limitations of what you are getting and play with it. Remember Android TV was released less than a year ago and has some growing up to do. The alternative is a stock Android OS, which requires customization.
I have the NP and think the specs are reasonable for the cost I paid. I could pay to play for all the google services, or tinker (as I have) and install Kodi and a bunch of other apps.
The only problem with your strategy is that in order to get a turn key solution with no tinkering, it will likely come from your friendly cable or IPTV provider with an additional subscription fee.
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While I don`t disagree with you, you can wait forever for the latest hardware or UI. There will always be a better chip or box just around the corner and that next release of code is coming any day now. The way I look at it is we are at about gen 1-2 of these devices (I have had a couple already) with a few more to go. You can either sit on the sidelines for another 1-2 years or understand the limitations of what you are getting and play with it. Remember Android TV was released less than a year ago and has some growing up to do. The alternative is a stock Android OS, which requires customization.
I have the NP and think the specs are reasonable for the cost I paid. I could pay to play for all the google services, or tinker (as I have) and install Kodi and a bunch of other apps.
The only problem with your strategy is that in order to get a turn key solution with no tinkering, it will likely come from your friendly cable or IPTV provider with an additional subscription fee.
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Your so right, Its a never ending cycle with new products all the time. It just seems in this case you either have a good OS with ahhhh...specs! , or great specs with terrible software (example: Madcatz Mojo). My worst habit is I shop by specs which gets expensive:silly:
I dont mind spending $$$ for a box but even then the market is bare save PS4 or Xbox....maybe Tivo? Looking forward to a true Android Game Console...Storage and all!
I'm definitely keeping my eyes on the Obox!
If I have to wait, wait I shall. Lol!
Could someone please advise me here.
In terms of longevity of use, lowest cost to own, and performance.
I currently have a Amazon firetv stick. I have been on the fence about buying a game controller as it's $40.
I have seen many ADT-1s sell on eBay for less than $100 with a remote and game controller. It is my understanding that the memory on the adt1 is superior to the nexus player.
However I don't want to buy something that down the road won't be supported. My roku 2xd still works and gets updated. But once I used my firetv stick I was hooked on speed.
I prefer Google devices and love my Nexus 7 2013. It has lots of support too.
Bottom line, and sorry for taking over, but could someone advise me on if I'd be better buying a Nexus Player or adt-1. FYI I'm not a gamer and don't play them often. I prefer my NES and n64. In fact I'd probably love using n64/nes/snes/gbaoid on one of these android tv devices lol.
What's the best for long term stability?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2jlz3z/the_developer_adt1_vs_the_nexus_player_vs_amazon/
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jfriend33 said:
Could someone please advise me here.
In terms of longevity of use, lowest cost to own, and performance.
I currently have a Amazon firetv stick. I have been on the fence about buying a game controller as it's $40.
I have seen many ADT-1s sell on eBay for less than $100 with a remote and game controller. It is my understanding that the memory on the adt1 is superior to the nexus player.
However I don't want to buy something that down the road won't be supported. My roku 2xd still works and gets updated. But once I used my firetv stick I was hooked on speed.
I prefer Google devices and love my Nexus 7 2013. It has lots of support too.
Bottom line, and sorry for taking over, but could someone advise me on if I'd be better buying a Nexus Player or adt-1. FYI I'm not a gamer and don't play them often. I prefer my NES and n64. In fact I'd probably love using n64/nes/snes/gbaoid on one of these android tv devices lol.
What's the best for long term stability?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2jlz3z/the_developer_adt1_vs_the_nexus_player_vs_amazon/
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In my opinion, you should get either of these 3:
Mad Catz Mojo Tegra 4
Kepler GPU
£120
Razor Forge TV Snapdragon 805
Adreno 420 GPU
£100
Snail Games Obox Tegra X1
Kepler GPU
£150
Other consoles like Amazon fire TV, Ouya all have outdated specs and you will get a lot better quality with what I mentioned above.
Look up each console and decide what you want.
I personally, want an Obox for the raw power of the X1 soc.
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In my opinion, you should get either of these 3:
Mad Catz Mojo Tegra 4
Kepler GPU
£120
Razor Forge TV Snapdragon 805
Adreno 420 GPU
£100
Snail Games Obox Tegra X1
Kepler GPU
£150
Other consoles like Amazon fire TV, Ouya all have outdated specs and you will get a lot better quality with what I mentioned above.
Look up each console and decide what you want.
I personally, want an Obox for the raw power of the X1 soc.
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Very cool I will look into them. Almost bought the Madcatz ctrlr for my firetv stick. Lots of good reviews.
What do you think about this :
http://m.geekbuying.com/ItemDescription/336181
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Very cool I will look into them. Almost bought the Madcatz ctrlr for my firetv stick. Lots of good reviews.
What do you think about this :
http://m.geekbuying.com/ItemDescription/336181
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It looks good, I'm not really a fan of mediatek chipsets though. But for £100 it's an OK price.
EDIT: Can everyone who visits this thread please take the time to do a official request for adding the SHIELD Console forums? Just visit the below thread and put in your request please. Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
ORIGINAL POST:
Is this a new device coming out this Summer? I don't even see a section at XDA for it, or any mention of it here in these Shield threads, yet its based on Android TV and the Tegra X1, with the below specs. I'm in the market for a Android TV, so this interests me.
http://shield.nvidia.com/
http://shield.nvidia.com/console
Specifications:
Processor NVIDIA® Tegra® X1 processor
256-core Maxwell™ GPU with 3GB RAM
Video Features 4K Ultra-HD ready with 4K playback and capture up to 60 fps (VP9, H265, H264)
Audio 7.1 and 5.1 surround sound pass through over HDMI
High-resolution audio playback up to 24-bit/192 kHz over HDMI and USB
High-resolution audio up-sample to 24-bit/192 kHz over USB
Storage* 16 GB
Wireless 802.11ac 2x2 MIMO 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Wi-Fi
Bluetooth 4.1/BLE
Interfaces Gigabit Ethernet
HDMI 2.0
Two USB 3.0 (Type A)
Micro-USB 2.0
MicroSD slot
IR Receiver (compatible with Logitech Harmony)
Software Updates SHIELD software upgrades directly from NVIDIA
Gaming Features NVIDIA GRID™ game streaming service
NVIDIA Share
NVIDIA GameStream™
Power 40 W power adapter
Weight and Size Weight: 23 oz / 654 g
Height: 5.1 in / 130 mm
Width: 8.3 in / 210 mm
Depth: 1.0 in / 25 mm
Operating System Android TV™, Google Cast™ Ready
Included Apps = PLEX
It is a new android TV console made by Nvidia. The Cpu/GPU is the latest tegra X1 that is insanely fast! Much faster than Snapdragon 810 and Exynos 7.
Release date is in may and will cost 199$
Just saw some games that will be released like Metal Gear rising? will those be on the cloud or it will run natively on the shield it self? if its only on the cloud the this is not a console its just a streaming device that requires very fast internet which not all countries have specially here in the Philippines
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Just saw some games that will be released like Metal Gear rising? will those be on the cloud or it will run natively on the shield it self? if its only on the cloud the this is not a console its just a streaming device that requires very fast internet which not all countries have specially here in the Philippines
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Games like Crysis 3 will run natively on it (not in the cloud).
(Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Correct, there are a few big-name games being modded/re-written to run natively on the platform. Of them, "Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel" , "Doom 3: BFG Edition" , and "Crysis 3". They demoed all of these. Doom3 and Crysis looked like they ran pretty well. Borderlands ran like a slug and obviously needed a lot more optimization.
That being said, they were really pushing the GRID services heavily, and a number of the announced launch titles were actually GRID games (AKA, PC games virtualized in a server center and streamed to your natively like OnLive or Gaikai/PS-Now, but with the improvements that nVidia has learned from the virtualization and distributed/parallel computing sectors). Anybody who has a current SHIELD device (portable or Tablet) and is within the USA should try it on their current devices at least a few times before it goes subscription model. It is currently in beta and free for all Shield devices, but the servers are in the USA, and the lag times may be unacceptable for some games if you are overseas or just have a laggy connection in general. It will officially come out of beta at the time when the Shield Console goes on sale, which will end the year-plus free ride so far.
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Correct, there are a few big-name games being modded/re-written to run natively on the platform. Of them, "Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel" , "Doom 3: BFG Edition" , and "Crysis 3". They demoed all of these. Doom3 and Crysis looked like they ran pretty well. Borderlands ran like a slug and obviously needed a lot more optimization.
That being said, they were really pushing the GRID services heavily, and a number of the announced launch titles were actually GRID games (AKA, PC games virtualized in a server center and streamed to your natively like OnLive or Gaikai/PS-Now, but with the improvements that nVidia has learned from the virtualization and distributed/parallel computing sectors). Anybody who has a current SHIELD device (portable or Tablet) and is within the USA should try it on their current devices at least a few times before it goes subscription model. It is currently in beta and free for all Shield devices, but the servers are in the USA, and the lag times may be unacceptable for some games if you are overseas or just have a laggy connection in general. It will officially come out of beta at the time when the Shield Console goes on sale, which will end the year-plus free ride so far.
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I'm more interested what it will eventually do for media myself. And it MUST be rootable for me to even consider it as an option. The specs, at least for the Android world are nothing short of brilliant. However, again I want media apps mainly, such as Kodi, Plex, Netflix playback and casting to be flawless. For now the Nexus Player still turns me on more even with it being wifi only. However, If the NVIDIA Console becomes rootable with FULL custom Android ROM's I am going to change my mind in a heartbeat though, haha.
Considering that all of the nVidia devices to date have been extremely easy to unlock and root, I'm going to say that, yeah, it is mostly likely going to be root-able. Whether it can handle Kodi/Plex/Netflix/Etc at 4K is up to those developers. I know NetFlix has 4K content, but I'm not sure how they differentiate and enable it to be honest.
I have the Nexus Player, and I honestly feel a bit like a chump for getting it and so soon this device is announced. I can always use it in another room or something though.
The big rub with Android TV so far is that the default UI, the LeanBack Launcher, will not display some apps unless they declare themselves as leanback capable (which includes some XML, an art asset or two for different shape/size icons, navigation by controller/keys, and search-ability in some cases). This is a problem I've run into on my Nexus Player. Now, nVidia may snub the LeanBack launcher and may integrate some LeanBack function into their nVidia Hub (like on the Shield Tablet and Shield Portable) which recognizes dozens of media apps, games, and some other things and has a launcher in its own UI. However, if apps make themselves noted for LeanBack, they show up fine on the normal AndroidTV interface. What is better, if they include search, then you can voice search for titles in media apps, and if it includes some sort of rating or recommendation feature (like Hulu or YouTube) they can integrate that and you can get recommendations of what to watch directly in your launcher UI on the top row. Less important for games, maybe important for Game discovery, but definitely an interesting thing for the media watchers amongst us. I doubt recommendation would work on something like Plex, and KODI is its own UI entirely, skipping LeanBack or even nVidia hub (to be honest, I've never been a fan of XBMC's UI, and Kodi hasn't won me over yet either... too fidgety and I can't trust a 'normal' person to be able to understand and operate it). Like I stated above, the machine has the horsepower, but it will be up to app developers to show up with a "flawless" app that will work on it well.
Casting works pretty damn well on my Nexus Player, so I bet with MIMO capable AC spec WiFi, and also ethernet inclusion, you will get pretty damn good casting from Chromecast apps, as that is built into AndroidTV's OS.
Mind you a lot of this is based upon speculation on specs, existing hardware, and my knowledge of the AndroidTV OS and how it functions. Your mileage may vary, terms and conditions subject to actual reality upon device launch.
Yeah chances are my mileage will most likely vary, unless for some odd reason I am forced to run the stock Android TV experience. Since 2010 I have not ran anything stock, so not even sure what that is like, and pretty sure I don't want to know, lol. I was thinking about a full rom flashed on it immediately out of the box, installing Nova Launcher, my Planets live wallpaper, throwing up all the streaming apps onto the home screen, and hoping it just works like it did for the Nexus Player user on Youtube. I want to setup my own media streamer home page and experience. 4K would be future proof, but I have no plans to get rid of the 1080p TV that this device will be attached to, not before it naturally dies on me. I still like the Nexus Player as it will fit right in with all my other Nexus devices. I just need to see more development work taking place on it.
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Yeah chances are my mileage will most likely vary, unless for some odd reason I am forced to run the stock Android TV experience. Since 2010 I have not ran anything stock, so not even sure what that is like, and pretty sure I don't want to know, lol. I was thinking about a full rom flashed on it immediately out of the box, installing Nova Launcher, my Planets live wallpaper, throwing up all the streaming apps onto the home screen, and hoping it just works like it did for the Nexus Player user on Youtube. I want to setup my own media streamer home page and experience. 4K would be future proof, but I have no plans to get rid of the 1080p TV that this device will be attached to, not before it naturally dies on me. I still like the Nexus Player as it will fit right in with all my other Nexus devices. I just need to see more development work taking place on it.
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I'm still waiting for this device. Hopefully it's better than the garbage that the Razer Forge TV was. The mods and such at the nVidia forums still say it's coming out in may. The Forge didn't release with Netflix, and there might be a chance the same will happen with the Nvidia Shield Android TV, but I'd be ok with Nvidia as they're going to have 4k display support for netflix.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...blet/nvidia-shield-tv-console-release-date/2/
I just got an email from NVIDIA saying its almost here. It starts out saying the wait is over, but then goes on to say its still not available and that they are giving away one Shield Console everyday until it is available to the public. I hate emails that start off telling you the wait is over but then asks you to wait some more, lol...
Its out!
Although only can see USA and Canada
$199.99 for 16GB
$299.99 for 500GB
http://shield.nvidia.com/android-tv
I'm not personally too interested in the gaming aspects but that amount of GPU power will prove very, very interesting. My main hope is that somebody can produce a minimal linux install for HTPC with Kodi and mpv builds, or perhaps just a release of Debian.
This device is the perfect low-cost HTPC. It should have more than sufficient CPU power for 10-bit h.264 and h.265 decode as well as sufficient compute power on the GPU side for EWA-type resamplers for chroma and image. I'm given to understand the X1 has full desktop opengl compatibility so it ought to be fully compatible with mpv (though I'm unsure of the state of the ARM builds).
The denver CPU should be more than enough to handle metadata crawling and the likes via Kodi in a non-sluggish fashion too. Christ, this device needs more videophile attention...
Just ordered mine on Amazon. It'll be here Sunday.
XDA needs a forum for it. This old shield handheld forum is for a completely different device.
Just ordered mine from Amazon US to be delivered to the UK next week by expedited delivery. What an absolute beast of a machine.
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Just ordered mine on Amazon. It'll be here Sunday.
XDA needs a forum for it. This old shield handheld forum is for a completely different device.
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me too!
returning my fire tv to them for a full refund, and getting this
this will be great to stream my pc to the tv so i can play games like witcher 3 in full 4k 50" vs 1080p 24"
and all the other stuff it does
Full review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9289/the-nvidia-shield-android-tv-review
Shield Console Rooting Experience Thus Far...
Got mine this afternoon and after futzing a bit, tried to root it. It came with developer mode already enabled, one hassle for me is that rebooting to fastboot makes the screen blank so I had to fly blind to oem unlock. So, I've got an unlocked system at the moment, but Super SU is still not working because their is no su on the device. Anyone make it any further than me? I also went ahead and cracked it open to see if there were obvious serial port connection points. Looks like there's a nice spot for a laptop hard drive that is probably populated in the Pro model.
I'm going to look into building my own kernel + ramdisk to try and get the necessary tools in place so SuperSU can work, but I'm a bit worried that the screen isn't going to work and so I'll essentially be flying blind through the whole process.
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Looks like there's a nice spot for a laptop hard drive that is probably populated in the Pro model.
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Does that that mean there is an internal SATA connector or not?
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Does that that mean there is an internal SATA connector or not?
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Yeah no SATA connector but there is an option in the settings to install all apps to an external hdd or micro sd card anyways
PS. Anyone know if this will be getting a dedicated XDA Forum? I'll probably be picking one up soon
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Does that that mean there is an internal SATA connector or not?
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Hard to tell for sure, looks like there might be solder points for it, but no header. I've got the 500GB on order, will post the diffs when it arrives.
I've been considering new tablets, and honestly the Shield Tablet has the features I want and I'm able to get one for $250, which seems reasonable. But I'm just wondering if it's still worth it as the it is a year old. How does it compare to newer devices?
If you're primarily going to be using it for gaming, there isn't a better tablet out there. The tablet is a steal for $250. The latest official update really makes the tablet shine and the custom rom called "Blisspop" even makes the device that much better in terms of performance. You won't regret getting one.
Well at the moment there are not many tablets that are faster (maybe even no faster) than this tablet.
Antutu scores are one of the highest even compared with the latest phones.
So speedwise it is still top notch and tablets that maybe come close you have to pay double the price for compared to a shield.
The 32Gb with Lte is unbeaten for that price.
I bought the 32GB LTE version in July, because an LTE tablet anywhere close to the Shield in terms of specs/screen etc. would have been ~$150 more.
Despite the battery recall issue, I'm satisfied with it. My (original) unit has been working perfectly and is very smooth with Lillipop 5.1 (the 3.1 OTA).
I should be receiving my replacement tomorrow, according to UPS. Presuming it doesn't have a defect, I'm looking forward to settling in. I never bothered to settle in on the old tablet (automatic actions, power saving stuff, that kind of thing) since I found out about the recall shortly after buying it, and didn't bother to fine tune it.
I recommend the tablet as an LTE device in the US, though if I didn't need the LTE connectivity probably there might be better values in wifi only (I'm not a gamer, so other tablets could meet my needs... but there are relatively few 8" LTE tablets without permanently locked bootloaders here).
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The problem of the tablet is really the processor that is getting old pretty quick (don't know exactly it's true performance), but nowadays everything coming out is already being 8 cores at 2 ghz or more.
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But they are often not faster. Gpu of the shield is very fast maybe the fastest around at the moment. The SOC is still one of the fastest around and it is just on the market for 1 year so not that old.
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Where can you even buy one of these? In Canada every single place is sold out and saying they won't stock them again. The used market can't find for under $500 either.
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Where can you even buy one of these? In Canada every single place is sold out and saying they won't stock them again. The used market can't find for under $500 either.
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Checkout swappa.com
nbollinger said:
Checkout swappa.com
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There is nothing there for it.
M3drvr said:
There is nothing there for it.
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https://swappa.com/buy/nvidia-shield-tablet-wifi
its the non-lte, 16 gb version
nbollinger said:
https://swappa.com/buy/nvidia-shield-tablet-wifi
its the non-lte, 16 gb version
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And there are no listings.... Useless.
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And there are no listings.... Useless.
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Its something on your end then
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Its something on your end then
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No. It's just that there are none...
There seem to be two of them for sale at that link when I go to it. One for $290, one for $320, both advertised as new (resale). Probably you're just filtering by Canadian sellers, based on your picture. Lots of folks in US won't ship outside the US, so no big deal that they aren't showing up for you.
Best of luck finding one!
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There seem to be two of them for sale at that link when I go to it. One for $290, one for $320, both advertised as new (resale). Probably you're just filtering by Canadian sellers, based on your picture. Lots of folks in US won't ship outside the US, so no big deal that they aren't showing up for you.
Best of luck finding one!
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Yeah my question was basically how to get one to Canada that's under $500. Impossible! Cheapest I've found is on eBay shipped for $530 for 16gb model no accessories.
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But they are often not faster. Gpu of the shield is very fast maybe the fastest around at the moment. The SOC is still one of the fastest around and it is just on the market for 1 year so not that old.
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The thing is that there aren't much AAA games to play in the shield, it's a good device more for the extra nvidia stuff.
I'm waiting for Borderlands 2 for a damn long time, but it never comes, and I don't even know if it runs on the device with good performance or if it's just for the Shield TV.
More impressive are some cheap windows tablets that for around 350€ can even run Battlefield 3 on low to mid.
Now with DX12 and tons of compatibility tablets might go more for windows again.
In fact I'm not liking much android, not a single game like the good old C&C Red alert 2, boot takes almost 2 times longer than my wind 10 PC, some websites stop working, multitasking is a joke since we can't even play a youtube music while doing anything else...
ps: Also in most performance tests we see other tablets ahead of Shield, so I don't think anything is actually that much optimized for it, not even most tegra games.
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My Shield Tablet LTE topped my Nexus 9's scores on Antutu plus the Shield gaming is great to have. Let's not forget about the SD slot and the mini HDMI port on top either. This tablet still destroys everything else (even most phones) a year later. I really mine because it has a stylus and no dumb Samsung home button like their Tablet S/S2 does. Its hard to find a good tablet these days yet the Shield holds its ground and doesn't seem to lose any performance over time. I like playing Half Life 2 on it or DOOM 3 especially when I travel. Its nice to have a tablet which can play nice games too even though that's not its primary purpose for me.
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The thing is that there aren't much AAA games to play in the shield, it's a good device more for the extra nvidia stuff.
I'm waiting for Borderlands 2 for a damn long time, but it never comes, and I don't even know if it runs on the device with good performance or if it's just for the Shield TV.
More impressive are some cheap windows tablets that for around 350â?¬ can even run Battlefield 3 on low to mid.
Now with DX12 and tons of compatibility tablets might go more for windows again.
In fact I'm not liking much android, not a single game like the good old C&C Red alert 2, boot takes almost 2 times longer than my wind 10 PC, some websites stop working, multitasking is a joke since we can't even play a youtube music while doing anything else...
ps: Also in most performance tests we see other tablets ahead of Shield, so I don't think anything is actually that much optimized for it, not even most tegra games.
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Those cheap windows tablets also use Intel chips in most cases plus Windows an as OS handles things differently than Android does. I agree that there aren't many great games but the ones they do have are fun in my opinion. I have the Shield TV as well and I play all kinds of games including emulators without any issues. My i7 Samsung Ultra book probably can't handle some of the games the Shield can then again I haven't tried. I'm not a big PC gamer but I do know the GPU isn't that great in most Windows tablets/ultrabooks. Android M fixes a lot of the productivity issues and adds multi window and I'm sure Nvidia is working on it now anyway. They tend to lush updates out promptly in most cases unless there's a big issue.
I haven't seen another tablet have better gaming performance than he Shield or Nexus 9 since hwy share a GPU yet use different CPU's. My Nexus 6's SD805 doesn't come close to he 3D score that the tablet does but on Marshmallow it does get a nice ~1500 pt boost likely from the optimization in it. I can imagine the same will occur in the Shield Tablet but we won't know until Nvidia releases it.
I'm not saying the Shield is the best fit everyone but it is a great tablet if you are in the market for a LTE enabled 8in tablet thats fast, runs near stock Android and has nice games for it.
Most of those BEST Nvidia Shield games coming soon are old and I finished them already. (RES5, Half Life, Borderlands, Doom...).
The thing is, you get a good device, but you will probably end playing most games that your phone already can play maxed out.
Other thing is Nvidia blahblahblah says it's more powerful than a X360 GPU, but then most games have a little lag and nothing, but really nothing made to the android yet comes close to most X360\PS3 gameplay\physics (they just look good, but plays like crap).
Then it's my 4th Nvidia shield all are defective and the last one needs to go to RMA again.
I never had an android device, so I wanted to try it, with my experience is just a god damn bugged SO worst than windows.
Also I got sad with the strategy games and how nothing on the android thousand of games even come close to Command and Conquer Red Alert II from like 2000
My opinion:
GOOD:
- hardware Performance;
- Sound;
- has it's own wireless gamepad;
- Nvidia software + remote pc play (button mapping already in the tablet, no need to root 4 that);
- More games than other android devices;
BAD:
- Android is not really optimized;
- Not much AAA games:
- Nothing like C&C, age of empires, Skyrim........ (most games are very cheap copies of good games, but look like a 2003 game);
- In the real world, performance is not as big as nvidia make you think (best phones now probably have better performance, like Samsung S6 which is a lot more little and doesn't come close to having more than a hundred cores like this nvidia);
- Screen quality is not that awesome, it is a High resolution LCD, but nothing special besides that. It doesn't get any close to samsung phone's\tablet amoled screens;
- Battery doesn't last much either;
I actually think that something like that made for DX12 and wind 10 would probably get almost twice the performance than on the actual android OS. At least I saw some people playing BF3 on dell cheap 1 year old tablets that cost basically the same as this nvidia shield. Nowadays with DX12 and Wind 10 soon may be a new era for tablets (it seems windows based hardware have more performance per price than android devices). At least I never seen any 300€ android tablet playing anything close to a BF3 which is years ahead in gameplay + physics than any android game I ever seen\played until now.
ps: If it was today I would buy a ~350€ DELL wind tablet that can even play BF3 (guess what? No need to Root for anything as you own everything already and can update\mod everything).
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