T-mobile LG G2 January update, should I bite? - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

New update for T-mobile LG G2. I am leery of a new update though, since you know how these things can go. Brick your phone of screw up the phone royally and I have to factory reset or roll-back somehow. A few peeps at AndroidCentral say it causes battery drain, but the jury is still out sincei ts only a few days old. What has been your experience, and are there any worthwhile improvements? I want them to fix the slow camera performance in low light, as well as the camera screwing up my lockscreen or not loading sometimes when I push the volume down button. Also would want speed improvements in the main UI, as it has never been the speediest. If its minor and no real improvements, I'd rather wait for KitKat and do a fresh factory reset.

katamari201 said:
New update for T-mobile LG G2. I am leery of a new update though, since you know how these things can go. Brick your phone of screw up the phone royally and I have to factory reset or roll-back somehow. A few peeps at AndroidCentral say it causes battery drain, but the jury is still out sincei ts only a few days old. What has been your experience, and are there any worthwhile improvements? I want them to fix the slow camera performance in low light, as well as the camera screwing up my lockscreen or not loading sometimes when I push the volume down button. Also would want speed improvements in the main UI, as it has never been the speediest. If its minor and no real improvements, I'd rather wait for KitKat and do a fresh factory reset.
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Generally i would prob just do it unless you have custom recovery on there or not stock....you should be able to see what the update contains .... For example sprints update was a Google security patch and a radio fix ( call quality)

Say I unlocked the phone and am using it on AT&T. If I update via OTA, will the phone relock itself?

Hung0702 said:
Say I unlocked the phone and am using it on AT&T. If I update via OTA, will the phone relock itself?
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No. Unlocking is a permanent process and has nothing to do with firmware upgrades.

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New security update for tmobile 3/21/17

I havent updated yet. Just want to find put more information if fix or break anything
UPDATE: just did the update. Phone feel much snappier and fingerprint works much faster. It was already good enough with nougat update but now is even more accurate
eduardmc said:
I havent updated yet. Just want to find put more information if fix or break anything
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It brings us to March 1st security don't see any other changes.
galaxy4mylife said:
It brings us to March 1st security don't see any other changes.
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From my personal experience i have seen that tmobile update make the phone snappier, better battery life etc or the other way around even when they only state is only a security patch update
I got the update and now I can't login to my phone. It wants me to put in the password (just once, then I can use fingerprint again like before). But I never setup a PIN and now I can't get into my phone!!
at a "whopping" 51Mb, that's not a lot of updates. The "faster" effect is probably placebo.
Compusmurf said:
at a "whopping" 51Mb, that's not a lot of updates. The "faster" effect is probably placebo.
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this :good:
Compusmurf said:
at a "whopping" 51Mb, that's not a lot of updates. The "faster" effect is probably placebo.
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"Futher improve to perfomance" so kernel mods changing and modifying a few codes for better perfomance which take no memory is also a placebo effect. Gonna have to explain that to all the kernel and tweakers developers in xda.
This is not a new OS or OS upgrade. Doesnt need to be 1gb to get better improvement on the phone. U can try the update and see. Im loving the speed.
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"Futher improve to perfomance" so kernel mods changing and modifying a few codes for better perfomance which take no memory is also a placebo effect. Gonna have to explain that to all the kernel and tweakers developers in xda.
This is not a new OS or OS upgrade. Doesnt need to be 1gb to get better improvement on the phone. U can try the update and see. Im loving the speed.
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Every update says the same darn thing. If you go look at the google code revisions, you'll be disappointed. Besides, I did this update many hours ago, not one iota difference in noticeable speed on my NON ROOTED STOCK device. I reboot every morning so I get the nice, fresh "fastest" possible speeds, at least until standard android and samsung bog downs occur by the end of the day.
But, if your gut says you feel a difference, more power to you.
About Kernel mods here. They take existing base and tweak specifically for speed at a trade off of potential stability. Google and Samsung, neither are well known for real speed improvements. They shoot for stability over mass numbers of devices vs speed. Their professional developers that know and work with the code day in and day out would nothing more than love to tweak it and massively optimize it for even their own devices but they have to march the corporate line.
Namuna said:
I got the update and now I can't login to my phone. It wants me to put in the password (just once, then I can use fingerprint again like before). But I never setup a PIN and now I can't get into my phone!!
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That happened with me while on MM. It took 3 factory resets from recovery before it let me in without a pin.
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Every update says the same darn thing. If you go look at the google code revisions, you'll be disappointed. Besides, I did this update many hours ago, not one iota difference in noticeable speed on my NON ROOTED STOCK device. I reboot every morning so I get the nice, fresh "fastest" possible speeds, at least until standard android and samsung bog downs occur by the end of the day.
But, if your gut says you feel a difference, more power to you.
About Kernel mods here. They take existing base and tweak specifically for speed at a trade off of potential stability. Google and Samsung, neither are well known for real speed improvements. They shoot for stability over mass numbers of devices vs speed. Their professional developers that know and work with the code day in and day out would nothing more than love to tweak it and massively optimize it for even their own devices but they have to march the corporate line.
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If u look back when this phone was release a year ago and all thr updates tmobile has done it s now. Completly different phone, speed and perfomance wise. Phone also doesnt hit up like a toaster like when the phone was release.
Is funny u said to go and check every update. Cause if u do the same here in xda u are going to find out most member talking about improvement, battery life and other thnlings. But i guess all of them are wrong cause is all a PLACEBO effect. If samsung didnt care about perfomance why is the U version the fastest and better version. This is why almost everyone is waiting on the nougat U version including me.
Feel sorry for u that u have to restart your phone everyday. U most have a lemon GS7 edge. I never have to do this to feel my phone fresh and fast.
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That happened with me while on MM. It took 3 factory resets from recovery before it let me in without a pin.
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This is pure BS! When I searched the web for this issue I found that this has happened before and as far back as at least 2 years ago!!
I mean, this seems like a straightforward fix from Google's side...Have the updates NOT trigger PIN requirement if there's was no PIN present. For anyone that's more familiar with such things, am I oversimplifying it here? It's just that easy isn't it?
I guess i will be updating in the am.
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at a "whopping" 51Mb, that's not a lot of updates. The "faster" effect is probably placebo.
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Seems like a small change, but I am getting better standby time. Left the phone unplugged all night last night after the update, a wipe of the cache, and a full charge. Woke up today it still had 96% battery left at least a 3% improvement over before the update.
I'll run the test again tonight to see if I get similar results. It's a pretty nice improvement if it stays that way.
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Seems like a small change, but I am getting better standby time. Left the phone unplugged all night last night after the update, a wipe of the cache, and a full charge. Woke up today it still had 96% battery left at least a 3% improvement over before the update.
I'll run the test again tonight to see if I get similar results. It's a pretty nice improvement if it stays that way.
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Is this with ambient always on display?. I love this feature dont really want to disable it.
eduardmc said:
I havent updated yet. Just want to find put more information if fix or break anything
UPDATE: just did the update. Phone feel much snappier and fingerprint works much faster. It was already good enough with nougat update but now is even more accurate
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Probably felt faster simply because you restarted the phone as part of the installation process.
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Is this with ambient always on display?. I love this feature dont really want to disable it.
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No I leave ambient off. I have my Gear Fit 2 so there really is no need to have my display on.

If Nexus6P got bootloop and fixed, Will run 8 cores again after update to Android 8

I fixed my phone follow link https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-bootloop-fix/. Now my phone is back but I was wondering how to bring phone run 8 cores instead using 4 cores is very slow and sometime freeze. Is there any way to fix performance?
Maybe Android 8 will fix it ?
Thank you.
AFAIK the answer is no, it is not related to Android.
psuputspon said:
I was fix my phone follow by https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-bootloop-fix/. Now my phone has back again but I was wondering how to bring phone run 8 cores instead now is 4 cores is very slow and sometime freeze or Is there any way to fix performance? May be Android 8 will fix it ? Thank you.
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No. The bootloop "fix" is a workaround that permanently hobbles your device, allowing you to make backups and remove any photos/data you need from the phone so you can transfer to your next phone. Since your phone has a hardware defect directly related to the motherboard, there is no software update that will help. Take everything you need off the phone asap and start looking for your next phone.
v12xke said:
No. The bootloop "fix" is a workaround that permanently hobbles your device, allowing you to make backups and remove any photos/data you need from the phone so you can transfer to your next phone. Since your phone has a hardware defect directly related to the motherboard, there is no software update that will help. Take everything you need off the phone asap and start looking for your next phone.
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Um...no? I mean, it's not that it hobbles your phone. And it's not that it's just a workaround to make backups. In fact it runs almost the same. Turns out, after some digging in, @XCnathan32 found out that even a normal 6p was throtling it's 4 BIG cores from 2ghz to 800mhz, because of which the phone was heating up and marginally running better as compared to the current fix. Now it doesn't heat up and runs slightly lower (not even noticable) than what it used to.
My phone, for one, works almost identical. No dip in performance for my usual activities - no games. Occasionally I run Drastic DS for some emulated NDS games. Never had a bootloop since.
As for the original question: the bootlooping will still occur. It seems to be a hardware issue as far as what I've followed in XCnathan32's posts.
The same link that OP has, will take him to the fix with the flashable Oreo kernels as well.
Tivaldi said:
Um...no? I mean, it's not that it hobbles your phone. And it's not that it's just a workaround to make backups. In fact it runs almost the same. Turns out, after some digging in, @XCnathan32 found out that even a normal 6p was throtling it's 4 BIG cores from 2ghz to 800mhz, because of which the phone was heating up and marginally running better as compared to the current fix. Now it doesn't heat up and runs slightly lower (not even noticable) than what it used to.
My phone, for one, works almost identical. No dip in performance for my usual activities - no games. Occasionally I run Drastic DS for some emulated NDS games. Never had a bootloop since.
As for the original question: the bootlooping will still occur. It seems to be a hardware issue as far as what I've followed in XCnathan32's posts.
The same link that OP has, will take him to the fix with the flashable Oreo kernels as well.
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Have you heard reports from people that got bootloopd again after applying the 4 core fix?
darkriff said:
Have you heard reports from people that got bootloopd again after applying the 4 core fix?
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I haven't read any such. There may be. I believe the best person to answer this would be the creator of the bootloop fix, since people with such issues would PM him.
v12xke said:
No. The bootloop "fix" is a workaround that permanently hobbles your device, allowing you to make backups and remove any photos/data you need from the phone so you can transfer to your next phone. Since your phone has a hardware defect directly related to the motherboard, there is no software update that will help. Take everything you need off the phone asap and start looking for your next phone.
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So the boot loop issue has been definitively identified as a hardware issue then? I just got paid out for my Square Trade insurance on my 6P and was considering going back hoping against hope that O would finally fix some of this stuff. Damn shame...
BushidoCowboy said:
So the boot loop issue has been definitively identified as a hardware issue then? I just got paid out for my Square Trade insurance on my 6P and was considering going back hoping against hope that O would finally fix some of this stuff. Damn shame...
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BLOD is a hardware defect plain and simple. No software upgrade (or workaround) will ever change this but not all devices are affected. I think the chances of you finding a NEW 6P are pretty slim... but still possible. We have two 6P's that are approaching 2 years old and no sign of battery degradation or any other issues. I wouldn't touch a refurb at this stage. Probably the best bang for the buck would be a Pixel XL, now the new ones are in the pipeline, prices should be dropping significantly.
I get alert to update Android 8 today. It's worth to update?. Anyone who has experience update the phone with patch fixed bootloop. Is there any concern?
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I get alert to update Android 8 today. It's worth to update?. Anyone who has experience update the phone with patch fixed bootloop. Is there any concern?
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If your device is stock there is no concern and yes, you should take the update . If you had the bootloop issue and needed to apply the workaround to your device to get it working, then you will have to wait because the update would overwrite the fix.
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If your device is stock there is no concern and yes, you should take the update . If you had the bootloop issue and needed to apply the workaround to your device to get it working, then you will have to wait because the update would overwrite the fix.
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I tried to OTA update but it can't install then I decided to flash stock with google image and flash to fix bootloop again then I can't open it stuck in loading animation. my device is gone now, Dead completely.
Ps. I installed twrp also before flashing is OTA problem to update

New Moto camera freezing up

I have notice the camera lag and freeze after taking so many pictures continuously. Last time it happened I was casting YouTube and then I went to take a picture and it was lagging. I switched the storage to internal memory, thinking it was the SD card, but it still lagged.
I also notice the phone freeze up when the battery gets to 15% or less. I am not sure if the issues are with the phone or because I am rooted, have Xposed install with mods, substratum theme, and Magisk.
Danny1976 said:
I have notice the camera lag and freeze after taking so many pictures continuously. Last time it happened I was casting YouTube and then I went to take a picture and it was lagging. I switched the storage to internal memory, thinking it was the SD card, but it still lagged.
I also notice the phone freeze up when the battery gets to 15% or less. I am not sure if the issues are with the phone or because I am rooted, have Xposed install with mods, substratum theme, and Magisk.
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Are u on stock ???
Love Dhir said:
Are u on stock ???
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Yes
This is happening to me also completely stock 7.0. there is a pronounced lag when using camera app. Once it's up and running seems to be ok but firing up taking forever.
I think I may be upgrading soon to the Nokia 6.1. I think the Moto G4 Is coming to the end of it's life. Nokia is providing updates quickly and are making some nice phones.
Danny1976 said:
I think I may be upgrading soon to the Nokia 6.1. I think the Moto G4 Is coming to the end of it's life. Nokia is providing updates quickly and are making some nice phones.
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I'm hoping my carrier Republic wireless offers Nokia, though Moto G6 looks pretty nice also.
I have the same problem with the camera, it also happens when recording to 1080p the image is delayed with respect to the audio, this problem started from the update of the security patch in December. I am still in stock with elemental, magisk & Xposed
I was using an app to scan barcodes and the phone rebooted everytime. Sometimes it would crash after a couple pictures. Also when using the camera by itself to take pictures it takes a long time, as if it froze. This new camera update seems to be unstable and I am surprised, no many complaints from more people.
The stock camera is the best option and that's one main reason I am in stock. But now that this is happening, I may install an Nougat custom ROM. I would install an Oreo ROM, but they still have too many issues.
I think it is happening after april security patch update. corret me please if i'm wrong.
i_Amlesh said:
I think it is happening after april security patch update. corret me please if i'm wrong.
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I was on the February security update, when I started having issues. I think it had to do with the new camera update.
I'm still having major issues with my camera apps. I have stock 7.0 rooted/unlocked and the device will get super hot. I've really only noticed this when the phone was in hot weather, or otherwise already warm from use. The camera will pause for seconds and is generally unusable. This happens with stock and Open Camera. Not sure what's causing this, is there any solution? Downgrade camera? It's not the kernel is it?
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I'm still having major issues with my camera apps. I have stock 7.0 rooted/unlocked and the device will get super hot. I've really only noticed this when the phone was in hot weather, or otherwise already warm from use. The camera will pause for seconds and is generally unusable. This happens with stock and Open Camera. Not sure what's causing this, is there any solution? Downgrade camera? It's not the kernel is it?
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You could try to underclock the CPU/GPU to avoid some heat, but I think you can't really avoid the heat of the SD617 chipset.
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You could try to underclock the CPU/GPU to avoid some heat, but I think you can't really avoid the heat of the SD617 chipset.
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What's causing it though? Is it the root, xposed, the kernel? This is why I wanted to keep on the stock ROM, so things like this wouldn't happen. The camera is virtually unusable in this state, so if it's not caused by my doing, then this is a major fault...
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What's causing it though? Is it the root, xposed, the kernel? This is why I wanted to keep on the stock ROM, so things like this wouldn't happen. The camera is virtually unusable in this state, so if it's not caused by my doing, then this is a major fault...
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It's the CPU itself and only one major fault of many of this device.

Anyone else simply happy not rooting this phone?

When I bought this phone two weeks ago I was excited at the prospect of rooting it so that I could install my "goto" root apps.
I pondered it for several days and was about to root yet another device and I changed my mind. I find I am enjoying Oreo just the way it is and for me this is a nice change. I tend to root/jailbreak everything immediately. In the end flashing rom updates and fixes actually started to give me anxiety. I found myself dreading updates and it was becoming a real chore and wasn't fun anymore.
Anyone else enjoy this phone without tinkering with or modifying it?
Yep same here, been having this from last year and half, the verizon variant.. Though rooting this is pain and all but just like you I was too. Much into rooting and flashing.
This phone as it is, is awesome enough.
But i liked nougot more
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It is an amazing device. The only reason I rooted it was to remove the screen retention with a custom kernel and ckal support. :good:
One thing, is there any way to increase refresh rate without rooting? Just thought about this for some reason.
With Oreo I do not feel the need for root anymore.
On Nougat I used root for KCAL, build.prop mods for 16bit.pcm.offloading & zero shutter lag and also mods for stereo speakers & no throttle.
But I've yet to come across any burn in on Oreo, maybe they fixed it by recalculating the default KCAL values?
They've also fixed the issue of 44.1Khz audio being output as 48Khz through the DAC.
Could also be placebo but I find the DAC to perform better now on Oreo.
I'd love to have zero shutter lag & stereo speakers but that's just a mild annoyance hardly anything to worry about.
The weird thing is that my performance have seeming increased going to Oreo from having the performance mods on Nougat.
The left picture is on Nougat and the other one on Oreo.
Now that I think about it, silent camera would be nice for the default camera. If the setting is there I can't find it. Thanks for the side by side. Interesting.
Yeah, I don't need to root this thing either. I have had this almost a year now. Upgrade to Oreo, and now happier then ever.
May be in future once we Pie ROM with second screen feature, I will think about it.
I used to have a Samsung Note 5, and rooted and flash plenty of times. But, it was a pain to keep up with updates. I learned my lesson to not root Android.
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Now that I think about it, silent camera would be nice for the default camera. If the setting is there I can't find it. Thanks for the side by side. Interesting.
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I use mute camera and it works well. Still on N though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ted.park.mutecamera
Not rooted as my variant H990DS does not qualifiy for bootloader unlock provided by LG
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In the end flashing rom updates and fixes actually started to give me anxiety. I found myself dreading updates and it was becoming a real chore and wasn't fun anymore.
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I imagine this is how most get out of the rooting game.
There has to be a serious need to do so and not just for the sake of it.
Though i still believe unless you gain admin rights over your device you do not own it.
One Twelve said:
I use mute camera and it works well. Still on N though
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ted.park.mutecamera
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Thank you. I am going to check this and a few others out.
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First time not rooting in about 10 years, running Oreo and so far everything is good (battery life, performance, features). I haven't even re-installed Nova Launcher, the home with app drawer has been good enough.
The one thing I'm missing is forcing it to 3g/CDMA since I'm on Verizon and where we live in Colorado, there is more and stronger 3g towers than LTE so I've always saved a lot of battery by locking to CDMA and not hunting/swapping for LTE towers. I'm mostly at home so I've got wifi for any real data needs. So other than that one thing, I haven't had a real need to root. So far...
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First time not rooting in about 10 years, running Oreo and so far everything is good (battery life, performance, features). I haven't even re-installed Nova Launcher, the home with app drawer has been good enough.
The one thing I'm missing is forcing it to 3g/CDMA since I'm on Verizon and where we live in Colorado, there is more and stronger 3g towers than LTE so I've always saved a lot of battery by locking to CDMA and not hunting/swapping for LTE towers. I'm mostly at home so I've got wifi for any real data needs. So other than that one thing, I haven't had a real need to root. So far...
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If you have your msl you can force 3g or you can install Xposed and I think there's a module for that. Inteli3g
This is the first time I've rooted a phone for a while, due to the screen retention issue. Else, stock or AOSP unrooted is enough considering most features are available these days
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If you have your msl you can force 3g or you can install Xposed and I think there's a module for that. Inteli3g
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Thanks for replying, I've been trying to get into the field service menu for the last couple of days but will probably have to call VZW and try to convince them to give it to me.
Re: Xposed, since that requires root, that was the one reason I miss having root (Xposed to be able to force 3g, that's how I did it on my old rooted phones).
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With Oreo I do not feel the need for root anymore.
On Nougat I used root for KCAL, build.prop mods for 16bit.pcm.offloading & zero shutter lag and also mods for stereo speakers & no throttle.
But I've yet to come across any burn in on Oreo, maybe they fixed it by recalculating the default KCAL values?
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That wasn't my experience with Oreo on my H918. Perhaps I need to try it again. As I recall, I still had screen retention issues, which is what ultimately led me to rooting my phone to use KCAL. I would really like for this phone to NOT be rooted.
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That wasn't my experience with Oreo on my H918. Perhaps I need to try it again. As I recall, I still had screen retention issues, which is what ultimately led me to rooting my phone to use KCAL. I would really like for this phone to NOT be rooted.
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Close to two months after my quoted message I can tell you that my phone do indeed suffer from screen retention. The first month i.e up to sometime in February I did not notice any screen retention - but since having sold my computer and using my phone for much more it has started to reveal itself.
It's only visible in one app, and that's Discord with its dark gray background and the 'retention' is that of the keyboard close to the edge of the screen.
Considering the circumstance around my screen retention, that for now, my V20 is my main 'machine'. I'm not that bothered by it, I have a PC coming in next week - and if I remember I'll tune in some weeks after it has arrived and update whether or not it's gone(with decreased usage).
For me I had had enough with screen burn and rooted this phone in last December.
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Close to two months after my quoted message I can tell you that my phone do indeed suffer from screen retention. The first month i.e up to sometime in February I did not notice any screen retention - but since having sold my computer and using my phone for much more it has started to reveal itself.
It's only visible in one app, and that's Discord with its dark gray background and the 'retention' is that of the keyboard close to the edge of the screen.
Considering the circumstance around my screen retention, that for now, my V20 is my main 'machine'. I'm not that bothered by it, I have a PC coming in next week - and if I remember I'll tune in some weeks after it has arrived and update whether or not it's gone(with decreased usage).
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Yeah, I realized I dug up an old post. Sorry about that.
I may have to try running my phone in a stock form to see how bad it really is. I'm running into some weird issues with, presumably with Magisk, and I want to unroot my phone. The only real reason I can't is because of the screen retention issue.
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Yeah, I realized I dug up an old post. Sorry about that.
I may have to try running my phone in a stock form to see how bad it really is. I'm running into some weird issues with, presumably with Magisk, and I want to unroot my phone. The only real reason I can't is because of the screen retention issue.
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Oh it's no problem, sorry if my post came off as offensive.
It is really not bad at all, and I might elaborate om the issue that it's only really beginning to show later in the day.
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Oh it's no problem, sorry if my post came off as offensive.
It is really not bad at all, and I might elaborate om the issue that it's only really beginning to show later in the day.
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See, mine will show retention minutes after being booted. For example, after a fresh install of a ROM, be it LOS or Stock, I'll start noticing ghosting before I can get into the color settings or Kernel Adiutor to make the adjustments... that's just from the time in TWRP and the booting. I guess everyone's phone it a little different.

Terrible performance after Galaxy S8 SM-G950U One UI/Pie update

Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
Factory reset or full wipe after updating to a new firmware. Also, do not restore Google apps, just start from a scratch.
I also have serious lag, it feels like a budget phone. I've had this phone since it launched, and installed every update without precaution. This is the first time experiencing these issues.
Frame rate is terrible, especially while scrolling. Delays in pressing buttons or launching apps have grown from milliseconds to sometimes two or three seconds. No other problems(aside from poor design choices). It feels like aggressive power throttling, not memory issues.
As soon as I saw that so much manual power management has been replaced by a "learning" system, I'm skeptical that the usual fixes will do anything for my problems, especially considering there is no other malfunction. Anyone else?
G950U
bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Samsung Galaxy s8 SM-G950W. Yes. Ever since the update, my Samsung is losing files., running slow and unable to use previously used apps. Substranum, fonts etc.
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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Well, that's what I was waiting to hear. If ppl aren't universally having the issue, then a factory reset may cure the problem. I'll give it a try soon.
Yes i just got bad performance after installing pie (custom rom, so i always factory reset or it wont work) but yeah after 14 days my phone start to slowing down like old smartphone and the apps is not starting correctly (e.g i must start magisk manually or the root wont work (the app cant detect if phone is rooted even when magisk hide is off)).
I try the LightROM and ALEXIS and both have this problem (performance way worse on lightrom). I know this isnt their fault but the samsung fault (maybe because its early relase? Or...).
Note : performance is normal in the first day, but after 14-30 days the phone start to acting weirdly (the apps behave weirdly) dunno why.
Btw i use SM-G950FD
After restarting about 5 times, then manually clearing cache partition, I was able to get smooth performance. Unfortunately, I still have to restart at least once a day to prevent lagging animation. This is with light usage: streaming, facebook, email.
I turned on "reduce animations" in advanced features, and set the animation scales to 1.5 with dev options. This seems to help prolong smooth operation, but I still have to restart daily. Next step is factory reset, I have a lot to backup...
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
Mine has an issue of having the fingerprint not working after it was changed. I have to do one of the following:
1. Restart and boot via safe mode then if it works, reboot again
2. Restore Settings from synced backup
3. Reset Settings
So much of a hassle.... I am thinking of rooting this soon.
Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Had the same problem so flashed official firmware (for my carrier, downloaded from sammobile) with Odin. This part can be done without of rooting your phone.
Do this first (back up your data before as clear flash will delete everything), and test after if it works well. If not, root it (https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535) and install adaway from xda labs.
If you root the phone or install TWRP, e-fuse will break and you cannot go back after that. Warranty will be void and the Samsung fit app won't work anymore.
Fortunately, there are workarounds on a rooted phone (https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv) so that is not a big deal, at least for me.
Not sure when you root it if wave pay services will work so do some research first.
an-_-dro said:
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
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Has your lag subsided after time? Mine appears after a night's sleep. It never fails: Restart in the morning, smooth scrolling all day. Next morning, laggy, stuttering scrolling until I restart again. I've uninstalled all unused apps and left power mode on high performance. No change. As soon as I wake up, animation lags like a budget phone. Everything else is reliable, just not the animation.
Of course, I don't actually know what's going on, but I'm willing to bet that this new power management system that we can't control is to blame. If I have to go through all the odin, etc steps, I may just roll back to oreo. Pie is prettier, but I want my smooth operation back.
comnut said:
My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
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S10e gets similar reception to my A8(2018). When I got the A8 I had a S8 before that, and i don't remember there being any difference in signal. I live in poor signal area, so if a phone had bad signal, I'd probably remember because I owuldn't have any signal at all.
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
J450N79 said:
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
DrivenKeys said:
Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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totally not satisfied with the Pie update, I wish I did not upgrade my fast S8.....
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350Rocket said:
I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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Wow! It's sad to hear an 8gb phone would still have the same issue. I wonder if this has to do with power management. Perhaps it's squeezing a tiny percentage of battery life out of saving some frames. It drives me crazy and gives me a headache. I wish they'd provide a simple switch for whatever this is.
This os feels like they ventured into breaking what works in an endless quest to fix what wasn't broken. Perhaps some team of programmers is celebrating minute improvements, but it's coming at the expense of the consumer, who never signed up to be the guinea pig. Each update seems to remove or break basic reliability and functionality that we paid for. I feel like I paid a premium price to become a software tester.
So reboots don't seem to fix the lag I'm experiencing when opening and closing certain apps. This phone was plenty fast before for me. Other issues are present now too. Auto adaptive display brightness doesn't work as well. I also really think it's sheet that you can't disable GPS and have the battery saving mode anymore! WTF Samsung.

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