[Q] Why my CTRLR won't work in bluetooth ? - M.O.J.O. General

Hi i'm facing a problem with the ctrlr
The controller is not visible in bluetooth by my phone, my tablet, and the mojo WTF ?
and yes i pushed the start button 5sec to have the purple led but after that the device go in blue then red then blue etc and is not visible in bluetooth
it's look like the controller search the dongle
someone have got the same trouble ?? thank in advance

Dead-neM said:
Hi i'm facing a problem with the ctrlr
The controller is not visible in bluetooth by my phone, my tablet, and the mojo WTF ?
and yes i pushed the start button 5sec to have the purple led but after that the device go in blue then red then blue etc and is not visible in bluetooth
it's look like the controller search the dongle
someone have got the same trouble ?? thank in advance
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The CTRLR uses Bluetooth Smart so in order to pair directly without the dongle you'll need one of the devices that I list in the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589028&page=2

Mad Catz Rich said:
The CTRLR uses Bluetooth Smart so in order to pair directly without the dongle you'll need one of the devices that I list in the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589028&page=2
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??? so the mojo can't see is own controller in bluetooth ??? are you kiding me ?

You need KitKat for Bluetooth 4.0 so no until the update you need the dongle.
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Just to clarify the reasons why we chose Bluetooth Smart over Bluetooth Classic for the CTRLR:
7.5ms latency (as opposed to 100ms latency in classic Bluetooth)
We've seen input lag as an issue on many Bluetooth controllers in the past so we wanted to ensure that you got the best performing controller possible for your M.O.J.O.. KitKat and Bluetooth 4.0 chipsets will be the standard for mid-to-high end Android devices from here on in so we're future-proofing you.
Massive energy efficiency
A classic Bluetooth controller might get, at most, 30-50 hours of use out of those two AAA batteries. With the CTRLR you'll get between 3 and 5 times that.
We had hoped to have a version of Android on M.O.J.O. that fully supported Bluetooth Smart and the HID over GATT profile that the CTRLR needs but that feature was held back until KitKat.

Mad Catz Rich said:
Just to clarify the reasons why we chose Bluetooth Smart over Bluetooth Classic for the CTRLR:
7.5ms latency (as opposed to 100ms latency in classic Bluetooth)
We've seen input lag as an issue on many Bluetooth controllers in the past so we wanted to ensure that you got the best performing controller possible for your M.O.J.O.. KitKat and Bluetooth 4.0 chipsets will be the standard for mid-to-high end Android devices from here on in so we're future-proofing you.
Massive energy efficiency
A classic Bluetooth controller might get, at most, 30-50 hours of use out of those two AAA batteries. With the CTRLR you'll get between 3 and 5 times that.
We had hoped to have a version of Android on M.O.J.O. that fully supported Bluetooth Smart and the HID over GATT profile that the CTRLR needs but that feature was held back until KitKat.
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I understand. Thanks for your awnser
I have a question when will be the next ota update for the mojo ? and what about root ?

So how do you pair the device with a BL4.0 device (that has KitKat)? I'm trying with a Nexus 5...

vostok4 said:
So how do you pair the device with a BL4.0 device (that has KitKat)? I'm trying with a Nexus 5...
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Unplug dongle
Press Start when the led light purple
then press home normaly you must see it

Worked perfectly. Thanks.

Mad Catz Rich said:
Just to clarify the reasons why we chose Bluetooth Smart over Bluetooth Classic for the CTRLR:
7.5ms latency (as opposed to 100ms latency in classic Bluetooth)
We've seen input lag as an issue on many Bluetooth controllers in the past so we wanted to ensure that you got the best performing controller possible for your M.O.J.O.. KitKat and Bluetooth 4.0 chipsets will be the standard for mid-to-high end Android devices from here on in so we're future-proofing you.
Massive energy efficiency
A classic Bluetooth controller might get, at most, 30-50 hours of use out of those two AAA batteries. With the CTRLR you'll get between 3 and 5 times that.
We had hoped to have a version of Android on M.O.J.O. that fully supported Bluetooth Smart and the HID over GATT profile that the CTRLR needs but that feature was held back until KitKat.
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And yet no eta for KitKat on M.O.J.O... wow.

jjprichards said:
And yet no eta for KitKat on M.O.J.O... wow.
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I doubt they'll say an ETA, rather just announce it's availability.
...KitKat and Bluetooth 4.0 chipsetswill be the standard for mid-to-high end Android devices from here on in so we're future-proofing you.
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:good:
I'm still on my original batteries :highfive:
2 weeks about average 1-2hours each day... light is starting to flash red blue now and then

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(Dev request) Sixaxis Bluetooth Gaming Mod

So I was looking at Engadget today when I stumbled across this article. It says that someone got the N900 to play emulators with a PS3 Sixaxis controller. I have no idea about coding, I'm not a programmer. I do know that there are a bunch of talented people here at XDA and was wondering if someone would be willing to take up the challenge.
I know Android is capable of using Bluetooth in ways that weren't intended for phones (eg. The bluetooth keyboard hack), so I'm optimistic. I have a Saphire 32B, but I'm hoping this could be applied to all android phones that don't have physical keyboards. What say you XDA? Are you willing, and is it possible?
Bump. Just saw this too.
It certainly should be possible with Android.
Here is some more info on how they got it to work on the N900, involves some linux apps to pair the controller.
Maybe we can work together to crack this nut? Maybe move this topic into the more general Android Software Development thread.
Possible use cases:
1- Turn your Android into a PS3 controller (switch on PS3, menu navigation or even keyboard input)
2- Use a Bluetooth controller/keyboard on the Android (like with N900)
magicdroid said:
Possible use cases:
1- Turn your Android into a PS3 controller (switch on PS3, menu navigation or even keyboard input)
2- Use a Bluetooth controller/keyboard on the Android (like with N900)
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What I'm hoping will come out of this is number 2, as I don't own a console. As I said I'm not a coder, so this is way above my head. And it doesn't have to be a PS3 controller either. A Wii or a 360 controller would be fine, too. I just want to be able to play my NES games on my phone. (No multitouch really sucks).
still hoping and wishing for a Windows Mobile port...
Or an android port to the Touch Pro2 that has Bluetooth and Sound...
Cobaltikus said:
still hoping and wishing for a Windows Mobile port...
Or an android port to the Touch Pro2 that has Bluetooth and Sound...
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Why did you buy the Android phone then, if you're into WinMo
If you are interested in alternatives to the MSI or Chainpus BGP100 bluetooth gamepad, google search "modded by bacteria" go to the "work in progress" section of his forums, and search for the thread "Re-housed Bluetooth controller". The creator of the site, Bacteria, will be transplanting the innards of the BGP100 into an SNES controller. Previously, he has transplanted it into a PS1 controller. It seams feasible to DIY into almost any controller housing.
kencix said:
Why did you buy the Android phone then, if you're into WinMo
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You misunderstood.
I didn't buy an Android phone.
There is a port of Android that runs on the Touch Pro2 but it does not have Bluetooth or TV Out. So I either need a way to connect a sixaxis to WinMo or a new port of Android for TP2 that supports TV Out and Bluetooth.
hard part is over
the sixaxis connects and sends data
now I just need to map out what to do when each button is pressed
currently works on windows mobile devices with a widcomm bt stack
I plan to make it work for the M$ stack as well but I'll have to borrow a phone with it from work cuz I don't have one any more
working on Touch Pro2 and HTC HD2 at the moment
I was so frickin happy when I finally got it to connect and send data
Nice to see progress on this. If this was on another forum it would see more activity.
Would be awesome. Especially on the mytouch. its only a matter of time
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Mod edit.: not (yet) dev related, moved to general
Does the HTC Sapphire have a widcomm bluetooth stack?
CobaltController
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689984
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Any progress on the android Sixaxis/duelshock 3 app ??
I'm working on an Android/PS3 controller app. I have a method of changing the Bluetooth master address on the controller, but I haven't yet been able to get Android to see it. If I just knew what the controller was sending when you hit the PS3 button, I might be able to make Android listen for that.
bicman11 said:
I'm working on an Android/PS3 controller app. I have a method of changing the Bluetooth master address on the controller, but I haven't yet been able to get Android to see it. If I just knew what the controller was sending when you hit the PS3 button, I might be able to make Android listen for that.
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Once the master address is set to your phone, pressing the PS button will cause the controller to send connection requests to your phone. Listen for devices, no authentication, with hid guid on psm 17 accept the connection request, then psm 19, accept that request, then write .... something can't remember... I have to go back to my code... to set the LEDs so they stop flashing and another code to tell the controller to start sending data. Once u r successful the controller constatntly sends packets of 50 bytes continuously describing the state of the controller, tilt, which buttons are down, up, etc so you just need to check for changes react accordingly. I'm handling verything on the L2CAP layer in WinMo. sending keydown and keyup events....
Pikipirs, who did WiimoteController is doing the DualShock 3 next
bcpk said:
Pikipirs, who did WiimoteController is doing the DualShock 3 next
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Nice Were can i follow his work? (ie twitter, Topic, forums?)
Keep up the good work guys
Rage1ofakind said:
Nice Were can i follow his work? (ie twitter, Topic, forums?)
Keep up the good work guys
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@pikipirs and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672884

bluetooth completely borked. fix it google!

I've been trying to get a BT mouse to work on my nexus 4.
i've now tried 2 different models, without success.
both are recognized, both pair and then both completely fail to work.
to add insult to injury, i tried one of those mice on a friend's samsung google nexus today -- also running jellybean -- and it worked perfectly.
could anybody running a BT mouse successfully SINCE THE LAST UPDATE (4.2.1) let me know what make/model they have?
EDIT: maybe they heard me ...
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...jelly-bean-update-bluetooth-fix-exclusive.htm
i understand your frustration, but just one question.. why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
khanh1289 said:
i understand your frustration, but just one question.. why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
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take a nexus 4 + slimport adaptor + BT mouse + BT keyboard,
add an lcd TV with hdmi input (now common in hotels etc.),
and you have:
- a portable PC
- a decent home media centre (with armchair remote input)
- possibly a productivity tool for editing text/ photos etc. for which a touchscreen is too inprecise an input device.
understand now?
Instead of doing all that why wouldn't you just go wireless display and then use the phone as the remote at the sametime? Wouldn't that make more sense?
And AFAIK, bluetooth input devices weren't supported?
sorry, i typically use a laptop for those things. It would make a lot more sense btw. You can also use your phone as a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if you have a laptop that connects to a tv.
shotta35 said:
Instead of doing all that why wouldn't you just go wireless display and then use the phone as the remote at the sametime? Wouldn't that make more sense?
And AFAIK, bluetooth input devices weren't supported?
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???
a/ i haven't a clue what "go wireless display" means.
b/ "use the phone as a remote" ... for what exactly? and how does that help me?
c/ where has google stated that "bluetooth input devices weren't supported"? that's nonsense.
re-read my previous post and try to get your head around what i am trying to achieve.
theabsurdman said:
???
a/ i haven't a clue what "go wireless display" means.
b/ "use the phone as a remote" ... for what exactly? and how does that help me?
c/ where has google stated that "bluetooth input devices weren't supported"? that's nonsense.
re-read my previous post and try to get your head around what i am trying to achieve.
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Wow, you are quite "the absurd man". If you're trying to find help in a forum, it's best if you be a bit nicer. We're both trying to give you better alternatives to what you're trying to accomplish. To answer your questions...
A/wireless display technology is built in with the n4 and jelly bean and it's not yet widely available to most tv's yet but achievable with adapters.
B/so you don't have to carry around a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It helps you with 2 less things you carry (unless you're using a combo).
C/this one I can't back him cause I thought it is supported. Maybe it is broken, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know
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khanh1289 said:
sorry, i typically use a laptop for those things. It would make a lot more sense btw. You can also use your phone as a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if you have a laptop that connects to a tv.
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... perhaps more sense to you, not me.
i don't want to carry a laptop around when i already have a computer in my pocket.
and i'm not happy with touch input devices as they are too slow and lack the precision needed for heavy editing.
these are my (not i.m.o. unreasonable) requirements of the nexus 4.
khanh1289 said:
Wow, you are quite "the absurd man". If you're trying to find help in a forum, it's best if you be a bit nicer. We're both trying to give you better alternatives to what you're trying to accomplish. To answer your questions...
A/wireless display technology is built in with the n4 and jelly bean and it's not yet widely available to most tv's yet but achievable with adapters.
B/so you don't have to carry around a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It helps you with 2 less things you carry (unless you're using a combo).
C/this one I can't back him cause I thought it is supported. Maybe it is broken, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know
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getting the display to the TV is no problem -- i already have a slimport adaptor! why would i want to max out my wifi for that? it's bananas!
and i've already said that i don't want to use touch input as it's too slow and inprecise for my purposes.
my portable (igo stowaway) keyboard and notebook BT mouse are tiny (and inexpensive).
sorry to seem abrasive but you are not getting what i'm trying to achieve here.
khanh1289 said:
why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
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i've heard other people making the tablet/ phone distinction before and i'm not sure it's a valid one. the nexus 4 surely IS a tablet, albeit with a smaller physical (not resolution) screen. what else distinguishes a tablet? i use my N4 in exactly the same way i used my asus transformer and playbook.
theabsurdman said:
i've heard other people making the tablet/ phone distinction before and i'm not sure it's a valid one. the nexus 4 surely IS a tablet, albeit with a smaller physical (not resolution) screen. what else distinguishes a tablet? i use my N4 in exactly the same way i used my asus transformer and playbook.
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In your first post you didn't clarify that you were going to hook it up to a tv, so I assume that you were planning to connect a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to your n4 and try to work from it's bit-smaller-than 5" display, which is highly unproductive.
N4 is technically a phone, not a tablet, by definition and specifications. I shouldn't have to explain the differences between a phone and a tablet (I'm sure there's a thread with detailed explanations)... just because it's running the same os doesn't mean it has the same hardware classification.
I understand that you want your N4 to replace your computer and the technology is very close, but not quite there yet... For simple tasks, it's good, but for anything editing, a laptop computer is highly more productive than a phone. Imagine you're doing something and you constantly receive phone calls and text messages.
Anyways, I will test this later when I get home and see if it's really broken. I know my Bluetooth moga game controller works just fine so I don't know why your mouse wouldn't.
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khanh1289 said:
Anyways, I will test this later when I get home and see if it's really broken. I know my Bluetooth moga game controller works just fine so I don't know why your mouse wouldn't.
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i'd appreciate that, thanks.
my BT keyboard works fine, but no mouse that i've tried.
Bluetooth is pretty much borked in all versions of Jellybean for all devices. Some things work and some things don't its pretty hit or miss. Version 4.2.1 added some drivers for game controllers but not much else so that's probably why those work and things like mice don't. There is supposed to be another fix coming in the next version but all that's known to be in there for sure is a fix for A2DP streaming.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/27/changelog-whats-new-in-android-4-2-1-jop40d/
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ease-will-fix-bluetooth-a2dp-audio-streaming/
kzoodroid said:
Bluetooth is pretty much borked in all versions of Jellybean for all devices. Some things work and some things don't its pretty hit or miss. Version 4.2.1 added some drivers for game controllers but not much else so that's probably why those work and things like mice don't. There is supposed to be another fix coming in the next version but all that's known to be in there for sure is a fix for A2DP streaming.
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however, the (jellybean) samsung google nexus has no problem running a BT mouse, as i saw today.
i'd like to raise awareness of this problem with the N4 and get some more response from users, which has so far been sparse, probably because (as other posters in this thread have indicated) few see the need for a mouse.
for instance, somebody reported on another thread that they had been able to make a microsoft 5000 notebook mouse work. can anybody corroborate that?
i'm reluctant to shell out for yet another mouse considering that i'm currently holding 2 non-functioning ones.
not sure how much good it's going to do but i've opened an issue (#43918 Nexus 4 -- bluetooth mouse not working.) with the android development project:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43918&thanks=43918&ts=1359688071#makechanges
"bluetooth mouse not working on nexus 4 (jellybean 4.2.1)
i've tried 2 different models of bluetooth mouse. both are detected and pair, and are recognized in settings as input divices, but i get no on-screen cursor nor any mouse/ button input registed by the device. nothing.
the same mice work properly on a samsung google nexus."
i've had one response to my issue at google already.
could anybody else who is having this problem please add to that thread also?
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43918&thanks=43918&ts=1359688071#makechanges
meanwhile i'm awaiting delivery of a microsoft notebook 5000 BT mouse which has been reported to work by another poster. i'll report back on that when it arrives
UPDATE:
at last i've found a mouse that works!
the microsoft bluetooth notebook 5000

[Q] OS and BT questions

Okay, the first question is aimed at Mad Catz Rich as from what I gathered he is a Mad Catz rep.
Can we expect an OS update to the MOJO? An update to at least 4.3 is important because of FSTrim which seriously affect performance in the long run.
The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
I'm interested in the MOJO but gaming is only third on my list. I want it more as a low power (HT)PC running android so I want to know if my logitech K810 (great for only using one keyboard when switching between the phone, tablet, and PC) would work on it and an actual mouse would be nice since it might take a while to get accustomed to using the mouse mode on the C.T.R.L. (plus I saw some comment somewhere where the person was concerned with the durability of the switch as it would get constant use and a mouse would avoid the need for constant switching).
I'm not sure whether to wait or not as game compatibility is only semi important for me for me (plus I have several humble bundle android games which might avoid the need for play store compatibility). But video playback is important as is the keyboard and mouse. If those work then despite the limited game selection it might be worth it for me.
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
ExtremeRyno said:
We have connected a BT keyboard and mouse with no problem to ours. Logitech keyboard, Microsoft mouse & both work well. Neither use a dongle.
I do have the controller's dongle taking up a USB port, but not sure if it actually needs it...I just sort of plugged it in because it was there and I'm a fan of sticking things into other things.
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Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
solsearch said:
Thanks! And yeah, many people are of that practice...
Now let's just see if Mad Catz Rich can give us some info on the OS front.
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Controller has built in blue tooth. Just flip the switch the the far left(blue tooth) and hold start button for 5 seconds. Controller will light up and seek nearby Bluetooth devices and sync.
solsearch said:
....The second question is about the bluetooth and aimed at anybody who can answer. Supposedly the MOJO supports bluetooth but I've also seen mention of a dongle. Do you actually need the dongle to use the controller or is it only for when connecting it to a PC (if it's a requirement it eats up an entire USB right?) So does bluetooth on the device work without the dongle? Can you easily connect devices such as a mouse and a keyboard?
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I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
Mad Catz Nate said:
Hi,
The CTRLR included with MOJO has Bluetooth Smart built in, allowing it to take advantage of lower latency and lower power consumption from the Low Energy profile of Bluetooth 4.0. Unfortunately, the Android OS won't be able to take advantage of this until KitKat is made more widely available. So, in the meantime, the USB dongle is included to make up for this connection. This will be similar for other Bluetooth Smart devices that don't have the OS/hardware matching up yet. The Bluetooth 4.0 built-in, however, is backwards-compatible with all Bluetooth Classic connections.
Regarding USB ports, using a USB hub should be just fine for connecting additional USB devices. Ie, wired keyboard, wired mouse, usb dongle wireless keyboard or mouse, xbox 360 controller, external hard drives, thumbdrives, etc.
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When will you be updating MOJO to KitKat?
No news to share regarding this yet. Sorry. :C
gwaldo said:
I use this mini BT kyboard/mouse:
shinatro Mini Bluetooth Keyboard
Works fine, a bit treaky to get used to but very functional.
I haven't tried removing the BT smart dongle, I would say it does need the dongle for the controller only because of android 4.2.2 doesn't support it.
On the new egg TV vid, there's confirmation of Android 4.4 kitkat coming, so I guess that's coming, and when it does the dongle wont be needed on the mojo, as from 4.3 it does support BT smart natively.
Well that's my understanding.
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Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
Mad Catz Rich said:
Just to clarify this even further, whilst 4.3 adds Bluetooth Smart support it doesn't have support for all Bluetooth Smart profiles. 4.4 adds support for HID over GATT which is what's needed for Smart mice, keyboards and game controllers.
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Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
gwaldo said:
Hi MC Rich, happy new year
Thanks for the clarification.
Oh the same HID over GATT which iOS has?
I know it's not officially supported, but I did try pairing with iPhone5, but it didn't find it.
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Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Mad Catz Rich said:
Gamepads have to be specifically created for iOS in order for them to work so, no dice there I'm afraid. The CTRLR will pair directly with one of the following:
Android device running 4.4 + Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Windows 8/8.1 PC with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
Macbook running Mavericks with Bluetooth 4.0 chip
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My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
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My tablet is running 4.0.4 with the MC BT4 dongle over OTG and works fine.
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Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication, such as Xbox 360), which even includes a Playstation 3 (although the button assignments will be all kinds of wrong).
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Yep - I did say directly
With the dongle, of course, you can connect it to anything that supports a USB gamepad (and which doesn't require some other form of authentication,...
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That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
scorpio16v said:
That would mean, I could use the controller with my LG G2 and Nexus 7 ? Both are supporting USB gamepads, keyboards and mousecontroll.
If the Mad Catz BT dongle would act like any other wireless to USB keyboard transmitter, it should work " out of the box ".
That's not the case.
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It should be - the dongle conforms completely to the HID USB standard so it doesn't do anything funky or out of the ordinary. That said, I've noticed on our Nexus 7 that sometimes you have to unplug/replug the OTG cable a couple of times to get it to recognise correctly, depending on the OTG cable that you use. You can tell if you've got a good connection because the home button LED should illuminate blue rather than flashing.
So yes, provided you've got a good OTG cable and all other things being equal it will work on any device that supports USB game controllers.
I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
scorpio16v said:
I've used this OTG cable on many different devices. It's definately full working. Before my former post, I have rechecked if my wireless keyboard with USB dongle works. Sony Sixaxis on USB are fine working. On both devices. Both devices even have enough power output to run harddrives.
The LG has JB 4.2.2 and the N7 has the actual 4.4.2 running. The controler simply can't pair.
In terminal lsusb didn't even list the dongle as recognized device.
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It's clear that it's not getting initialised through that OTG but can't explain why that is happening, I'm afraid. If it's working through your M.O.J.O. then we know it's okay and we don't do anything specific at all on M.O.J.O. to support it - it really is just a USB HID compliant dongle.
Strange, if I connect the bt dongle through a passive hub, it will be recognized by my G2 and N7.
It's not a really handy solution.
edit:
I bought another OTG cable and now, the dongle is recognized to my LG G2 without the HUB.
So, you're absolutely right. The C.T.R.L.R USB-dongle should work with any device. :good:

[Q] Help! Why TN7 can not connect to DualShock3 via bluetooth?

Hi there! I bought a Tegra Note7 which is equipped with Tegra4 Chipsets.Now I want to play games with DualShock3 via SIXAXIS CONTROLLER. The thing is that the app worked very well on my Moto Droid Bionic,but it did not work on my Tegra Note7. When I clicked "start" with every necessary steps done and the screen displayed address of bluetooth and listening for controllers,the "bluetooth" icon did not appear on the top status bar. So the DS3 controller was continuous flashing its 4 red lights,then no other things took place.
I have restored original android 4.3 rom,no changes. Could*you*please*tell me how to work it out? Thank you!
Before I rooted tablet I was able to plug ps3 controller in and was able to map buttons m8 I also used sixaxis enabler and everything fine until rooted then lost all ps3 controller mappings there's very little info on this subject I asked before ,something to do with Bluetooth drivers !
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How about open your eyes, read old threads, use the search function. this issue has been discussed a hundred times now..
e: for the lazy ones..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633221
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541873&page=3
cars10k said:
How about open your eyes, read old threads, use the search function. this issue has been discussed a hundred times now..
e: for the lazy ones..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633221
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541873&page=3
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Yeah,you are right.It does has been discussed for 100 times.,but no one exactly figure it out.
generalradec said:
Yeah,you are right.It does has been discussed for 100 times.,but no one exactly figure it out.
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There's really nothing to figure out. The bluetooth stack on the stock ROM just doesn't work with PS3 controllers. Until someone can make a custom ROM with some sort of changes to bluetooth (or until Nvidia releases a ROM with decent bluetooth support), it's just not going to work, and there's nothing we can do to change that.
rchrdcrg said:
There's really nothing to figure out. The bluetooth stack on the stock ROM just doesn't work with PS3 controllers. Until someone can make a custom ROM with some sort of changes to bluetooth (or until Nvidia releases a ROM with decent bluetooth support), it's just not going to work, and there's nothing we can do to change that.
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Thank you for your definite answer! Anyway I now understand what is going on with Tegra Note7, and I have substituted DS3 for wamo pro2 .I hope it can function on my device via bluetooth.
generalradec said:
Thank you for your definite answer! Anyway I now understand what is going on with Tegra Note7, and I have substituted DS3 for wamo pro2 .I hope it can function on my device via bluetooth.
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The 4.4 Update is supposed to address controller usage.
e8hffff said:
The 4.4 Update is supposed to address controller usage.
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Yeah,wamoPro can work on TN7 via BT now.But there is a pity for Sixaxis controller still not functioning in TN7.
I've had some success using the USB/BT Joystick Center app with an otg cable and a Bluetooth dongle.
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PS3 SixAxis controller - USB/BT Joystick Center
yes USB/BT Joystick Center GOLD worked wired with PS3 sony.
H T T P jaredmorgs.github.io/#FAQ_PS3_Sixaxis
Wireless PS need dongle CSR bluetooth
Ragnorok64 said:
I've had some success using the USB/BT Joystick Center app with an otg cable and a Bluetooth dongle.
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Please send Link of bluetooth dongle and USB-BT apk version
anilmaurya said:
Please send Link of bluetooth dongle and USB-BT apk version
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Not 100% sure what you're asking for but hopefully this is it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321254758547?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoygolddemo
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoygold
I can't get it to work as consistently on my tablet as Better DS3 works on my PC though.
rchrdcrg said:
There's really nothing to figure out. The bluetooth stack on the stock ROM just doesn't work with PS3 controllers. Until someone can make a custom ROM with some sort of changes to bluetooth (or until Nvidia releases a ROM with decent bluetooth support), it's just not going to work, and there's nothing we can do to change that.
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Any Idea if this is actually possible? sitting with a rooted TN7 which I spent a while figuring out how to root (not particularly learned in android atm) and pretty pissed off that my dreams of having a nice practical ghetto shield without cables have been crushed.
admiralaverage said:
Any Idea if this is actually possible? sitting with a rooted TN7 which I spent a while figuring out how to root (not particularly learned in android atm) and pretty pissed off that my dreams of having a nice practical ghetto shield without cables have been crushed.
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It's technically possible, but there has been almost no developer interest in this device. There are no custom ROMs available, and there's only one alternative kernel available, though I never did try a Sixaxis with that kernel... I do know that it broke support for my Moga, so that's not exactly promising. I'll have to give the Sixaxis a try here in a bit.
rchrdcrg said:
It's technically possible, but there has been almost no developer interest in this device. There are no custom ROMs available, and there's only one alternative kernel available, though I never did try a Sixaxis with that kernel... I do know that it broke support for my Moga, so that's not exactly promising. I'll have to give the Sixaxis a try here in a bit.
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Assuming you mean shaky156 kernel I can confirm that it doesn't help the bluetooth issue
Just tried the latest version of Sixaxis with the latest OTA. And it seems to finally work on the built in blutooth stack without a usb dongle!

[Help] Xbox One controller to Android

Is it possible to use an Xbox one controller on android, I have seen conflicting statements, and if not just staight up, is there any way to get it working. Thank you guys. I do know this is probably a question thats extremely stupid to alot of you and it means alot for this help. Thanks
That depends entirely on how you intend to connect it......
If you intend to use a 'wired' controller via the USB socket on the phone then yes it is possible....though you will need an app of some sort to 'map' the buttons correctly.
If you intend to connect wirelessly, then you're out of luck.....had it been a PS3 or PS4 controller, it would have been a different story.
The xbox controller transmits via RF signals whereas the Sony equivalent transmits via bluetooth.
We can pair bluetooth devices to the phone without issue....but that's not the case for RF devices.
The only reason I know this is because I went through something similar in order to use ePSXe to play PS1 games on my S5 ....In the end I had to get a Moga bluetooth controller to do the job......
Edit.....My bad.....I was commenting about xbox 360 controllers.....just noticed you have an xbox one controller......which connects via wi fi (I believe). That has possibilities.....have you tried connecting it by wi fi direct? If it does connect that way, you'll still need some method of mapping the buttons. It may be the case that someone needs to develop an app that makes the devices communicate with each other too....afraid I haven't looked into that though....never needed it....
Sorry fella...
Edit 2.....just done a bit of research, it turns out there is no 'native' support in Android for wireless controllers, you (apparently) need an interface app and/or a rooted device that you can add/change code on....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
keithross39 said:
That depends entirely on how you intend to connect it......
If you intend to use a 'wired' controller via the USB socket on the phone then yes it is possible....though you will need an app of some sort to 'map' the buttons correctly.
If you intend to connect wirelessly, then you're out of luck.....had it been a PS3 or PS4 controller, it would have been a different story.
The xbox controller transmits via RF signals whereas the Sony equivalent transmits via bluetooth.
We can pair bluetooth devices to the phone without issue....but that's not the case for RF devices.
The only reason I know this is because I went through something similar in order to use ePSXe to play PS1 games on my S5 ....In the end I had to get a Moga bluetooth controller to do the job......
Edit.....My bad.....I was commenting about xbox 360 controllers.....just noticed you have an xbox one controller......which connects via wi fi (I believe). That has possibilities.....have you tried connecting it by wi fi direct? If it does connect that way, you'll still need some method of mapping the buttons. It may be the case that someone needs to develop an app that makes the devices communicate with each other too....afraid I haven't looked into that though....never needed it....
Sorry fella...
Edit 2.....just done a bit of research, it turns out there is no 'native' support in Android for wireless controllers, you (apparently) need an interface app and/or a rooted device that you can add/change code on....
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I mean obviously wired, sorry shouldve specified
dalekman9999 said:
I mean obviously wired, sorry shouldve specified
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In that case, yes it's possible. Here are a couple of youtube videos showing how it's done.........
https://youtu.be/yJ5KmhkBKcU
https://youtu.be/eDQqMH4POFQ
Though on one of them, it says that it probably won't work with the S5 stock firmware (some c**p to do with knox or something).....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
Anyone else got anything that could help, Tried everything else still not working there has to be a way to get it working. Should mention its an S5
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In that case, yes it's possible. Here are a couple of youtube videos showing how it's done.........
https://youtu.be/yJ5KmhkBKcU
https://youtu.be/eDQqMH4POFQ
Though on one of them, it says that it probably won't work with the S5 stock firmware (some c**p to do with knox or something).....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Couldnt get any of this to work sadly :/
dalekman9999 said:
Couldnt get any of this to work sadly :/
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Then I don't know what else to suggest....sorry fella.....
Have you thought about the alternatives available?
As I said earlier, I use this setup....
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...dpPl=1&dpID=41fFpK+LwOL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1
.....and it works very well...no wires either.
All you have to do is to install the Moga Pivot app, turn bluetooth on and sync the devices....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
now you can pair the Xbox one S controller (design lab included)with Bluetooth
BUT you need to update firmware first and add a profile to it with the Xbox accessories app (Xbox one or win10 store)
tailslol said:
now you can pair the Xbox one S controller (design lab included)with Bluetooth
BUT you need to update firmware first and add a profile to it with the Xbox accessories app (Xbox one or win10 store)
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I understand updating the firmware...but why do we need to add a profile to it?
You need a Keyboard Layout File or the button mapping will be off. http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...-one-slim-controller-bluetooth-t3398014/page2
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I understand updating the firmware...but why do we need to add a profile to it?
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it add it automatically after the update,it inter the controller owner by itself.
has anyone made any forward progress on this idea? I'm thinking about swapping my elite controller for an Xbox One S controller because I would find connecting to my phone much more useful than the elite features I seldom use.
mascondante said:
has anyone made any forward progress on this idea? I'm thinking about swapping my elite controller for an Xbox One S controller because I would find connecting to my phone much more useful than the elite features I seldom use.
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yea Microsoft made the xbox one S controller fully android compatible by firmware upgrade ( you need a cable and a app on pc or xbox one.)
and this controller is bluetooth compatible.making most xbox one original controller (and elite) obsolete.
Anyone have any info on getting the second edition of the Xbox One controller with built-in bluetooth to work on Android?
bump just finished doing the firmware update on my gamepad, reset it and my phone, still thinks my triggers are my right stick. nothing in the xbox accessories app to switch axis around. sigh.

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