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I know the Samsung Gtab 10.1 is appealing but the Asus EEE Pad Transformer is looking very appealing. And if the cost stay as low as they say $400, that would make it a steal for me.
I know that the Samsung display is a PLS and the Asus is IPS, but the price...
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Hope this is in keeping with this thread's intent?
There (apparently) is a tab called NotionInk that's been recommended to me as a cheaper alternative to the Galaxy but the info that I can find appears a little scant.
t-c said:
There (apparently) is a tab called NotionInk that's been recommended to me as a cheaper alternative to the Galaxy but the info that I can find appears a little scant.
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It's called Notion Ink Adam - but it's not cheaper (than old 7'' Galaxy Tab) and it's hard too get. There is a forum here for Adams.
IF, you do not need docking station with keyboard.
IF, GT 10.1 will have Samsungs own SoC instead of Tegra 2 and you want something that does not require hours to convert video material in order to be able to watch it on tablet than NO. It is NO alternative to GT 10.1
Iv been thinking about this too. Its a great price and has a good screen. Tegra isn't **** and we still don't know what chip will be in the GT and its still a while to release.
In terms of video. The only problem is high profile stuff .. I'm thinking as soon as vlc gets released for android that may solve our problems
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VLC realease should be close. I'll probably wait. I waited years for a good tablet, I can wait a month longer. I can (really).
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Iv been thinking about this too. Its a great price and has a good screen. Tegra isn't **** and we still don't know what chip will be in the GT and its still a while to release.
In terms of video. The only problem is high profile stuff .. I'm thinking as soon as vlc gets released for android that may solve our problems
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I wouldn't call the Tegra 2 "****" specifically, but by todays standards it is only decent. The Tegra fails in comparison to Apple's A5, and many people are looking to Samsung's Exynos to even the field. We can only hope it will, as Samsung's Hummingbird processor was amazing... Samsung is oddly keeping very quiet about this.
Yea I get that. But at the end all it really gives is tthe video potential.. games are developed and optimized for tegra so they will def work with tegra...
Yea the apple processor kills it in graphics but so what? Games are the same .. no lag on tegra in gaming ..
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I will have an eee pad transformer on Saturday. It will keep me going until the 10.1 arrives. By that time I will be able to upgrade if I feel the need. The eee is certainly an attractive tablet at an attractive price.
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I will have an eee pad transformer on Saturday. It will keep me going until the 10.1 arrives. By that time I will be able to upgrade if I feel the need. The eee is certainly an attractive tablet at an attractive price.
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You can't upgrade from a transformer to a tab 10.1, if you read the specs the transformer has the better spec especially of you use the keyboard dock with full USB 2.0 at another £50, the screen is total class the best i've seen on any android device anywhere and a zillion times better than the xoom, plus full HDMI etc.
It's released next week in the UK 16th April, already cancelled my xoom order
Can't believe there's no froum on here
Yes, you can upgrade.
New GT 10,1 will have a better bat. life and better screen
If you do not need full USB 2.0 (in keyboard!!! only) and keyboard itself) no reason to go for Transformer.
Probably it will have worse cpu (tegra 2 against exynos), is thicker and heavier...
If one needs just an Android tablet GT 10.1 seems to be the best one coming (in 10.1 size)
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Yes, you can upgrade.
New GT 10,1 will have a better bat. life and better screen
If you do not need full USB 2.0 (in keyboard!!! only) and keyboard itself) no reason to go for Transformer.
Probably it will have worse cpu (tegra 2 against exynos), is thicker and heavier...
If one needs just an Android tablet GT 10.1 seems to be the best one coming (in 10.1 size)
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Very true. Agree 100%
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galtom said:
Yes, you can upgrade.
New GT 10,1 will have a better bat. life and better screen
If you do not need full USB 2.0 (in keyboard!!! only) and keyboard itself) no reason to go for Transformer.
Probably it will have worse cpu (tegra 2 against exynos), is thicker and heavier...
If one needs just an Android tablet GT 10.1 seems to be the best one coming (in 10.1 size)
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A better battery than 18 hrs the asus tab has a 9.5 hr battery and the keyboard holds another 8.5, and if you compare prices the asus will still work out over £50 cheaper than just the samsung on it's own
Better screen than the IPS one doesn't think so does one
If buying android devices has tought me anything it's that just paying more doesn't automatically mean you get better
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A better battery than 18 hrs the asus tab has a 9.5 hr battery and the keyboard holds another 8.5, and if you compare prices the asus will still work out over £50 cheaper than just the samsung on it's own
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That is why I wrote about keyboard. I just want a tablet - I do not need keybord and I do not plan to carry anything like that with me. I already ave a netbook... why would I want another one?
When tablet itself is considered... GT 10.1N (N for new) has bigger battery (+), is thinner (+), is lighter (+).
For me (and I suppose all ppl. that do not need keyboard docking station) winner is clear - even if it is slightly more expensive.
One more thing... no one knows how this docking thing will actually work in 6 months... and just to have physical buttons to write few posts and e-mails...? Unless you really work with text but than again - wouldn't Windows 7 device be better choice to work?
One more thing.... with GT10.1 I can have small. sexy stand... maybe use it as a second screen with my desktop... with keybord docking station one needs extra space. You either have all the time with you (extra weight) or you need spece in drawer for it (but than why would you buy it?) or extra cover and space on the dest so it will not gather tons of dust! In my opinion in case of tablet (and according to MY NEEDA ) this is not money well spend.
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Better screen than the IPS one doesn't think so does one
If buying android devices has tought me anything it's that just paying more doesn't automatically mean you get better
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Better screen??? How???
IPS (Transformer) vs Super PLS (Tab) http://bit.ly/h2smoN (another PLUS)
As I said - for me there is only one winner here... GT10.1 seems like the best 10.1 tablet announced so far.
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That is why I wrote about keyboard. I just want a tablet - I do not need keybord and I do not plan to carry anything like that with me. I already ave a netbook... why would I want another one?
When tablet itself is considered... GT 10.1N (N for new) has bigger battery (+), is thinner (+), is lighter (+).
For me (and I suppose all ppl. that do not need keyboard docking station) winner is clear - even if it is slightly more expensive.
One more thing... no one knows how this docking thing will actually work in 6 months... and just to have physical buttons to write few posts and e-mails...? Unless you really work with text but than again - wouldn't Windows 7 device be better choice to work?
One more thing.... with GT10.1 I can have small. sexy stand... maybe use it as a second screen with my desktop... with keybord docking station one needs extra space. You either have all the time with you (extra weight) or you need spece in drawer for it (but than why would you buy it?) or extra cover and space on the dest so it will not gather tons of dust! In my opinion in case of tablet (and according to MY NEEDA ) this is not money well spend.
Better screen??? How???
IPS (Transformer) vs Super PLS (Tab) http://bit.ly/h2smoN (another PLUS)
As I said - for me there is only one winner here... GT10.1 seems like the best 10.1 tablet announced so far.
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You don't have to have the keyboard docking station of you don't want it, they're both available seperately, you can always use the standard touchscreen honeycomb board or swipe.
I know I do not have to buy keyboard. But without keyboard GT 10.1 (new) is lighter, thinner and with better battery.
Again, if it will be confirmed that it will also have different CPU (without Tegra'2 video playbeck limitations) FOR ME it is a better choice.
If it will be based as 10.1v and Transformer on Tegra 2 I think I will buy Transformer since it will be sooner in the shops.
But I will wait for official confirmation (either way) by Samsung
I already ordered Transformer because I don't mind converting from time to time and I feel that Samsung will want to throw 10.1v in Europe first and 10.1 will be late here.
I ordered my Transformer on Saturday from Comet for delivery yesterday morning, and it turned up 15 minutes before I had to leave to catch the train to Paris. I've been playing with it off and on and it really is very nice - the screen is beautiful and it really feels like a quality item.
However, it is much bigger and quite a bit heavier than my 7" Galaxy Tab, so I suspect it will likely stay at home on the coffee table in future. The Galaxy Tab 8.9 may occupy the sweet spot between the 7" Tab and the 10.1" Transformer in terms of size/weight, but the Transformer is excellent value for money.
I did originally have it on preorder with Amazon for the bundle with the keyboard dock, but decided I couldn't wait - the keyboard dock has already been ordered and paid for direct from AsusTek for £54.98p!
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Can you say if it has the same problems with video playback as Xoom?
My main interest is mkv (high profile) 720p.
Also (as I can not find it at asus web site) I suppose it has DLNA. If by any chance you have NAS drive - how is with playback from this device?
If someone would like to help me out and write a review for tabletowo.pl (it will be translated to Polish by me and your name will be used) I will be grateful - please PM me.
I'm travelling for work at the moment, so I can't test much in the way of video since I don't have much here to test.
What I can tell you is, it does have a DLNA client/server, though it is rather odd since some of the language is in Spanish (may be italian) even though the Tab is configured to be in English. I did try connecting to my Galaxy Tab, using the Tab as a DNLA server and a WiFi hotspot, but when I started AllShare on the Tab, it switched off the mobile hotspot and turned regular WiFi back on.
Unlike the Galaxy Tab, the Transformer has no native DivX support, so I've installed RockPlayer and VPlayer, and will probably give them a try tonight on a DivX or too, but I've no 720p MKVs to test.
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Dave
Hey everyone,
I'm trying to purchase a tablet and am undecided between the transformer and samsung tab 10.1. Just wondering if anyone who has used one or both could help me out with the decision. Ill be using the tablet mostly for entertainment and for school once or twice a week. Thanks for the help!
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The Gtab 1 or 2? If you're refering to the first gen, of course Transformer is better. As for second gen, its not released yet so anything people say is mostly opinion based on specs
I prefer the asus spec wise. All the extra standardized ports and external storage slot are why people choose android over ios, imo. Internals seem similarly matched, Sammy gets the prize for prettiest tablet. If these were laptops sammy would be an nice ultra portable and asus would be the good all-purpose.
I would get the TF for best bang for the buck. You will save 100 bucks and on top of it it has a microsd slot and hdmi port, where the Samsung 10.1 does not. If you just wants looks well then go with the 10.1. I believe that Samsung made a huge mistake not including a microsd slot.... PLS vs IPS screen,what 10% brighter then the IPS screen on the TF not worth it to me. With that extra 100 bucks you save you could get the dock.....TF for the FTW.....
I wanted a galaxy.. but I have to say the lack of SDcard slot on the thing was an absolute dealbreaker. I really couldn't be happier with my transformer at this point.. especially with 3.1 fixing the YouTube / video problems
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Hey everyone,
I'm trying to purchase a tablet and am undecided between the transformer and samsung tab 10.1. Just wondering if anyone who has used one or both could help me out with the decision. Ill be using the tablet mostly for entertainment and for school once or twice a week. Thanks for the help!
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this may be a little off.. but no one can compare the Samsung 10.1 since its not out. ill give you my opinion about the Xoom and the 10.1 off what i know.
I have heard from people who got the special edition Samsung 10.1 version, was that it had a better screen than the Xoom. the only thing that attracts me to the Samsung 10.1 is the thinness.. but after having a transformer, the size feels just right. I want something there , not just paper thin.
To be honest, get the Transformer.. I had the Xoom for 2 weeks and straight out of the box i knew there was an issue. I tried to enjoy it, but the screen kept turning me off. I went to the motorola forums and random other people posted asking if they would fix it via a firmware update? kinda like how the Nexus 1 got tweaked. There was no solid info regarding the screen. if your looking at the screen 100% of the time it needs to look good. At Angles, the Xoom looked blurry. I always had to hold it directly at me. While my Transformer (4 days new) i can set it down and tilt my head from my PC or any angle and it looks nice, colorful and sharp.
One of the turn off was that the Samsung 10.1 tab had a 3mp camera for front while the Transformer has a 5. these are just minor things but to me, id rather have a 5mp.
IMO, The colors stand out better than the Xoom but i cant compare the Samsung 10.1 which is not out yet.. With the new firmware 3.1 , it kicks even more ass. Samsung has said it would ship with 3.1 out the door. I haven't had any screen bleeding or creaking like a few have stated. Im completely happy in my purchase. Now i want the dock (which is not something i wanted originally) but the Transformer is an excellent Tablet.
What it comes down to is features, Skins ect. The Xoom has a Barometer built in, Transformer has a GPS without a carrier (but works better at tracking you when you uses a hotspot type of device) beyond that, its a click and it shows you the map where your at... i have had problems following me ...say in a car, while im driving. I think the built in Transformer GPS is meant for not moving objects but just a quick glance of the location. If you want it actively following you, like a cell phone GPS use a hotspot from Comcast 20$ a month or create a hotspot with your cellphone.
Im not sure what the Samsung 10.1 has exclusively built in. But since i purchased the transformer, ive forgotten about the Sammy 10.1 tab.
Thanks for the input everyone. Ya the biggest fear I had was not enough ports, especially the hdmi. The transformer is looking like a better pick to me. Just making sure that cloud based storage and remote desktop is standard on all of them right?
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Thanks for the input everyone. Ya the biggest fear I had was not enough ports, especially the hdmi. The transformer is looking like a better pick to me. Just making sure that cloud based storage and remote desktop is standard on all of them right?
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the remote desktop is kind of a joke, the reason being that you have to be on the same network as the computer youre linking to. mightbas well use the computer itself if youre that close! but this can always be replaced with other apps readily available in the market. i heard PhoneMyPC was a good alternative, only $15. as for the unlimited storage, its free for a year starting from when you sign up.
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the remote desktop is kind of a joke, the reason being that you have to be on the same network as the computer youre linking to. mightbas well use the computer itself if youre that close! but this can always be replaced with other apps readily available in the market. i heard PhoneMyPC was a good alternative, only $15. as for the unlimited storage, its free for a year starting from when you sign up.
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You do not have to be on the same network. Please don't spread false information.
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The screen on the TF is imho, very good but not great. With all the hype, a more objective review is required. I find the red a bit too brown and the black levels weak. You can see this if you use the attached color chart from this review's video: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Transformer-Eee-Pad-TF101-vs-Acer-Iconia-A500-vs-Motorola-Xoom-vs-Apple-iPad-2.53242.0.html . I suspect the samsung will have a better screen since they want to showcase their new PLS screen technology.
Note: the attached file size was limited to a 96k upload limit so it is better to download it yourself.
I had been going back and forth for over a month on if I wanted the Transformer or Galaxy Tab 10.1.
I purchased a Transformer a month ago when it first game out and like it, but was also bothered by some small issues. And I kinda think it's a little ugly. I ended up returning it and waiting on the Galaxy Tab 10.1
At the time I thought the Galaxy Tab 10.1 would have a micro SD slot (it was shown having one at CTIA). But now it seems the Wifi model doesn't have a micro SD slot. And one thing I learned from my 16GB iPad 1 experience is 16GB and no micro SD slot are a bad combination. So if I was going to by a Galaxy Tab 10.1, I'd have to spend at least $600 on the 32GB model.
I love the look of the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I love how thin and light it is. I love the PLS display. At least I love all that third hand from what I've seen of it so far. But the price difference for me is now $200, since I could get a 16GB Transformer and use a 16GB micro SD card I already own to get 32GB, versus having to buy a 32GB Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Yesterday I canceled my pre-order for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and today I went to the store and bought the Transformer again. It's not perfect, but it's pretty dang good and better than anything else available now and apparently in the near future.
I love that it has micro SD, mini HDMI, micro USB, an IPS display, and is still pretty light compared to the other Honeycomb tablets out now.
I'll learn to live with the crappy speakers, goofy wide with rough edges, and ugly color. For only $400 though, it's also pretty amazing deal. And if I can ever find a keyboard dock, that'll just make it even sweeter as an Android netbook.
I really wanted to love the Galaxy Tab 10.1. If it wasn't for the lack of a micro SD slot, I would still be waiting for that instead. That is just one thing I really don't want to sacrifice. Samsung really is copying Apple a little too much these days.
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the remote desktop is kind of a joke, the reason being that you have to be on the same network as the computer youre linking to. mightbas well use the computer itself if youre that close! but this can always be replaced with other apps readily available in the market.
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Huh? Port forwarding! btw Splashtop is much better then logmein and its free with the purchase of TF. RD is a must for me casue I have my server which has no keyboard mouse, or monitor, having the ability to access it from the TF is much more easier then use my notebook.
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Huh? Port forwarding! btw Splashtop is much better then logmein and its free with the purchase of TF. RD is a must for me casue I have my server which has no keyboard mouse, or monitor, having the ability to access it from the TF is much more easier then use my notebook.
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I'll add that there's a version of Splashtop coming that will support connecting to any device via a Gmail account. The desktop version has already been updated to support that, and so all we need is an update to the Android version. Then, you'll be able to connect to any machine over the Internet without fussing about with port forwarding that the like.
I remember Asus stating that support for the feature will be coming over the summer, and so we don't have long to wait. And I'm very impressed with how well the solution performs over wifi--I use it to watch TV via Windows Media Center on my desktop while my wife watches something else on the TV in the bedroom. It's as good as being at the desktop.
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the remote desktop is kind of a joke, the reason being that you have to be on the same network as the computer youre linking to. mightbas well use the computer itself if youre that close! but this can always be replaced with other apps readily available in the market. i heard PhoneMyPC was a good alternative, only $15. as for the unlimited storage, its free for a year starting from when you sign up.
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I enjoy remoting my pc which is on the second floor while I'm having a meeting on the 4th floor. you'll be the joke when you keep giving bad example.
I was in the same boat. But I saw it on amazon and just bought the ASUS. Done and done.
Nuke please.. it duped.
You can go either way if the lack of the SD has no impact to you.
On the other hand, there is the support side of it, which was the major decision factor for me.
20,000 people on a Samsung Pad is good, and there may be some good XDA support.
200,000+ people on the Asus EEE Transformer with custom kernels and fixes before asus can even think about addressing them is the biggest factor when it comes to android based devices.
Its the same reason I was on the moment, and same for the Epic 4G. Tons of people, tons of community support, so anything that might be broken has an incredible chance of being actually addressed as people will take it into their own hands.
Plus the factor that Developers will support and ensure their software works on the devices with pure numbers.
Oh, and on the Splashtop chatter. Take a look at your running services, its already there "Splashtop Remote". Just be nice to be able to use it, or has someone figured out how we can use it already?
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Oh, and on the Splashtop chatter. Take a look at your running services, its already there "Splashtop Remote". Just be nice to be able to use it, or has someone figured out how we can use it already?
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My cloud app >[a bunch of next buttons]> my desktop and that runs splashtop for you
I had the same difficulty, though I was under the assumption that the Samsung had miniHDMI / MicroSD / USB ports. Of course I choose the transformer in the end because the extra battery / keyboard option is a nice addon though I don't plan on to buy but if i ever wanted more battery I'd know how to get it xD. The other thing that help me decide was that I personally believe ASUS has a better support staff for computing than Samsung, personal experience.
I walked into a Best Buy today and was looking for a TF, which of course they did not have. they had an Acer Iconia, so I went to go check it out. It was really heavy, and was wondering if the TF is similar in weight. Looking back, it might have been something attached to the Iconia that might've made it heavy, but I am not so sure. Also, all internals for Iconia/TF/Tab are all the same so they will perform similarly if used the same way, correct?
Hello, TF'ers. I'am asking a simple question for those who love their Transformers but for some reason is lusting after one of the other tablet's. Please list the tablet you wish you could have and why.
Thanks.
I have my TF101 and I'm happily satisfied with my purchase.
I love this thing. Nothing else comes close.
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Love mt TF but I always wonder if I would love the Acer Iconia A500 better.
I have had every tablet out, and the iconia was ok, the screen is not as good as the TF, but at least the browser does not crash as much, no lag while trying to type, and the usb...
I am looking at the thrive... if I know what kinda of glass it will have I would order one.
More than happy with my TF'er. Tried the Zoom, tried the Ipad2 but neither come close. I'm mildly interested in the GT 10.2 to see what the fuss is about but the lack of SD card immediately puts a dampener on it.
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I have had every tablet out, and the iconia was ok, the screen is not as good as the TF, but at least the browser does not crash as much, no lag while trying to type, and the usb...
I am looking at the thrive... if I know what kinda of glass it will have I would order one.
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I have 0 lag and havent had the browser crash once. I have 2 usb's slots and both SD and MiniSD card slots. I use a wireless mouse and BT headset nd get over 24 hours of battery life on hard use. Hwat else could you ask for?
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As a launch-day Pre purchaser who converted to Android in January of this year, I have to admit that I'm intrigued by the TouchPad. webOS really is SOOOO much better in terms of multitasking that I'd love to have it on a tablet.
However, there are three things that temper this notion. First, webOS does not and likely will not have the apps that I need for quite some time. The TouchPad won't even have Office document editing out the door, which is simply ridiculous. I can't believe that Samsung can completely redesign their tablet and release it in a few months, while HP can't get a single freaking app written that's absolutely vital to their product's success. Really, webOS made me promise myself never to buy something for a feature that's "coming soon."
Second, until a tablet has a keyboard dock as functional as the Transformer's, I'd have a hard time switching over. There's simply no better device for straight writing (i.e., just laying words down on the page) on the go. If HP releases a similar hybrid device someday, I'll think about it (assuming the apps are there), but Transformer is just a great all-around mobile device.
Third, while webOS is a nice OS in many ways, I'm disappointed that HP didn't design it to make better use of a tablet's screen size. Ultimately, webOS 3.X is just a blown-up version of the smartphone OS, with the same number of cards showing, only bigger. They could have done so much more with it. I really like how Honeycomb's screens can provide so much useful information at a glance. I often just turn my TF on, check to see if I have any emails, upcoming appointments, what the weather's like, etc., etc., and then just turn it back off. It's like a dashboard for my life, and so far no other tablet OS comes close in this respect.
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...........It's like a dashboard for my life.........
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Thats how I would describe it to the "T". You should sent that to Asus for branding...lmao
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Love my Transformer... But wish I have an iPad only due to the vast number of case options available. However I'm looking forward to receiving my multi-angle rooCase.
I don't undestand why you would want any other tablet (at least any other android tablet)
The TF offers everything all the other android tablets offer PLUS MORE... Anything else would just be a downgrade.
the only thing I'm lusting for currently is a fully functional Netflix app. I really love to watch movies quietly at night and currently have to switch over to my Nook Color to do this. TF is awesome, working Netflix would make it total perfection for my needs.
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Love mt TF but I always wonder if I would love the Acer Iconia A500 better.
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The Transformer is better than the iconia. I had one, the screen on it sucks and it weighs a lot more. The only things it has over the transformer are the aluminum body (I actually prefer the transformer's body but most like aluminum that I've talked to) and the speakers have more bass. IMO the transformer wins hands down.
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I have 0 lag and havent had the browser crash once.
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Bollocks
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get over 24 hours of battery life on hard use. Hwat else could you ask for?
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Did you do something special to your batteries?
I wish it had normal browser like Chrome with extensions and such. I wish it had mouse hover capabilities.
I have a XFormer, but would love a Xoom, but only to see the benefit of Internal 3G.
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Yep the grass always seems greener on the other side. I'm lucky enough to be able to try them all out. I've got the Asus Iconia, the Transformer, and iPad 2 already, and the Galaxy 10.2 is in the mail. Starting to get a better profile of how I use them. Want to copy your camera photos to the tablet? Something with an SD slot will make you happier. Have movies on an external USB hard drive? Having a standard USB port will make you giddy if you want a movie off that drive to watch on your tablet. These emotional highs are momentary moments though, and 99% of the time I'm just playing games, reading email, checking the web, facebook, youtube. Every tablet does these fine, and during that time I appreciate the lighter ones. They all have a way to add a keyboard to them. Bluetooth is easy, especially once you've paired a keyboard. Apple and Samsung have $69 keyboard docks for their thin tablet dock ports. You pay more to get the Transformer's keyboard dock, but you get a far better integrated and multi-functional add-on for your money. Hooking up to these is an inconvenience of varying degrees. You are not likely to have the iPad or Galaxy keyboard docks with you when you leave the house, so they suck. Good bluetooth keyboards are always wider than these tablets are, and as such less likely to fit in the same case with your tablet. If you've got a case for your Transformer, it is likely for netbooks and will hold both the tablet and keyboard together. So if you prefer a physical keyboard to an onscreen one, the Transformer is clearly the standout choice. You have to weigh that importance though, as that keyboard dock doubles the total weight you'll be carrying.
I've been working on a showdown between these tablets for my blog. Easy enough to ding this one and promote another for a slot or port or not. Not sure the small time these features come into play will aggravate a user enough to choose ports over weight/looks though. Money obviously play a role, as the difference between the Asus and a full set of features with its dock and an iPad with all the same features via add-ons is huge. It help that the Asus starts out $100 under the iPad. Samsung is certainly brave going head-on with Apple, I'll give them that. They must be thinking that iPad buyers didn't mind no MicroSD or USB ports, and millions were sold, so microSD and USB ports don't really matter. They might be right. Time will tell if they sell more Android Honeycomb tablets than Asus. I can't see them ever catching up to iPad sales though, with nothing to add value to iPad prices. Pay that much and you might as well get an iPad. JMHO.
I am a very happy Transformer owner, everything else (at the moment) on the market, even the ipad 2, would be downgrading.
I love my ASUS transformer too.
However, if I had to pick another table between xoom or samsung galaxy v2 10.1 or iPad.
I would get the Samsung Galaxy 10.1, I checked it out at Best Buy yesterday and it was pretty nice. No lag at all either and it was very responsive.
Sometimes my transformer feels unresponsive, and it lags but it could be due to my tons of widgets on the home screen.
However if Samsung did have a keyboard dock like transformer, I would hop on it however I heard their updates were lacking and slow to be released.
Though I like how its lighter, thinner the transformer, and looks a bit nicer. Also I enjoyed the PLS screen as it also had more VIBRANT colors then the transformer.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4445/samsung-galaxy-tab-101-review/
Even though it's the 10.1 review, a lot of comparisons between it an the TF101 and iPad2 are drawn. Also some benchmarks and interesting tidbits for those interested.
Galaxy has no MicroSD and no HDMI. So the TF shouldn't even be on it's list of comparison. We're better than that.
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Galaxy has no MicroSD and no HDMI. So the TF shouldn't even be on it's list of comparison. We're better than that.
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TF is twice as thick, and is quite a bit heavier, it's all up to personal preference and what your needs are. If I didn't want a keyboard dock I'd probably shoot for a Galaxy Tab. Saying there isn't a comparison is pretty weak of you, you must be a fanboy.
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TF is twice as thick, and is quite a bit heavier, it's all up to personal preference and what your needs are. If I didn't want a keyboard dock I'd probably shoot for a Galaxy Tab. Saying there isn't a comparison is pretty weak of you, you must be a fanboy.
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If you find 130 grams to be too heavy (the weight of about 2 chocolate bars), then you might as well get the iPod Touch.
My 3 year old has no problems using my TF for extended periods of time. And last I checked, I had no need to slide it under a door - although it will fit.
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If you find 130 grams to be too heavy (the weight of about 2 chocolate bars), then you might as well get the iPod Touch.
My 3 year old has no problems using my TF for extended periods of time. And last I checked, I had no need to slide it under a door - although it will fit.
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Well then why not buy a notebook instead? Twice as thick, heavier but more powerful, cheaper and does more, hey you don't need to slide it under a door anyways so it doesn't matter.
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Well then why not buy a notebook instead? Twice as thick, heavier but more powerful, cheaper and does more, hey you don't need to slide it under a door anyways so it doesn't matter.
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Because I want the features that the TF offers.
Touch Screen
Android
Detachable Keyboard
in addition to HDMI.
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Because I want the features that the TF offers.
Touch Screen
Android
Detachable Keyboard
in addition to HDMI.
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who needs a detachable keyboard when weight doesn't matter? You can get notebooks with touch screens and you can put android on it if you want, you're an idiot lol notebooks are cheaper and more features who cares if they are heaver and bulkier and dont have detachable keyboards you don't need to slide it under a door after all RIGHT?
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who needs a detachable keyboard when weight doesn't matter? You can get notebooks with touch screens and you can put android on it if you want, you're an idiot lol notebooks are cheaper and more features who cares if they are heaver and bulkier and dont have detachable keyboards you don't need to slide it under a door after all RIGHT?
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Show me a notebook with touchscreen that's $399 and has the convertable feature of the TF.
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Galaxy has no MicroSD and no HDMI. So the TF shouldn't even be on it's list of comparison. We're better than that.
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They have (out of stock) adapters for MicroSD and HDMI. LOL
I like my TF much more than my older Galaxy Tab v1 (7 inch). The TF & dock is many times more useful. Main advantage of the GT 7inch is data access plan, but vzw cripples that with useless OS restrictions against free voice/ip, skype, tethering, etc. I can tether the TF to my phone which effectively 100% replaces the GT 7inch.
After months of waiting Samsung/vzw is releasing 2.3.3 for GT 7inch, but I do not have it available yet. Samsung are on their second iteration of accessories. The latest car adapter has USB port for your cable, and the plug itself is 100% proprietary (literally I think there are *no* aftermarket equivalents - that indicate the lightning bolt on the tablet as charging. 2.1 amps is not sufficient). At least Samsung has the proprietary cables to the tablet in stock. It should be the same accessories for the GT 10.1 as 7 inch, with some exceptions.
If Samsung releases s/w updates like Asus, I think these tablets will be comparable. If Samsung falls behind it may suck because Google is going forward very fast.
I like that the Asus and Samsung tablets are physically different because users can choose favorite hardware features, and it is good competition.
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I like that the Asus and Samsung tablets are physically different because users can choose favorite hardware features, and it is good competition.
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This. They will give you the same basic Honeycomb experience, which I hope Google keeps a tight rein on so that they don't end up with the same mess they have on phones. But the hardware is different enough from tablet to tablet to enhance the experience depending on what your needs are.
I've never used the HDMI out on my Evo or my TF, and probably never will. I will likely never get a keyboard dock. I'd like to have a tablet that didn't feel quite as rickety as the TF. But I do want more than 16GB of storage, and that and price trump the sexiness and build quality of the Galaxy to me.
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Show me a notebook with touchscreen that's $399 and has the convertable feature of the TF.
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http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3027365 $329 after $100 coupon.
But anyway...
Itaintrite said:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3027365 $329 after $100 coupon.
But anyway...
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Ouch! LOOL!
Guys, I own both. The GT is definitely, hands down, the better tablet. The TF is a better "netbook." As a tablet alone (dockless), the HDMI port and MicroSD does not compensate for the heaviness, size, and inferior quality screen that the TF has. Try it out for yourself. You'll know what I mean.
All in all, if you already have a laptop or a netbook, get the GT. Otherwise, the TF might be a worthy bridge.
Yeah I Plan to use the TF For school and Out of town Trips. I dont own a laptop/netbook so the TF is perfect. Small and Portable. Ive Always Liked Asus too. If the GT 10.1 had a Micro sd card slot then It would been the perfect Tablet but they killed it >,< (Oh and HDMI too)
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Guys, I own both. The GT is definitely, hands down, the better tablet. The TF is a better "netbook." As a tablet alone (dockless), the HDMI port and MicroSD does not compensate for the heaviness, size, and inferior quality screen that the TF has. Try it out for yourself. You'll know what I mean.
All in all, if you already have a laptop or a netbook, get the GT. Otherwise, the TF might be a worthy bridge.
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Dockless, HDMI and MicroSD matter if you'll use them. If you're not going to use them, go with the Galaxy Tab.
Don't dare say they're useless features, or not worth the extra weight and size (very insignificant differences, imo)
The screen on the Galaxy Tab sports a PLS panel, and it is definitely better... Kind of. Color reproduction is worse. Viewing angles are better.
Backlight bleed is just as much of a problem. It's still an edge-lit device.
Although PLS is new, it's still an LCD. Stuck pixels/dead pixels will occur, and quality control won't get all of them.
If you're looking for a tablet, try the GT and the TF, and the iPad 2. It's all about preference If you're looking for a netbook, get a netbook.
As an aside, if you have a good HD television, HDMI is awesome for watching movies, etc. in HD on the tele!
No MicroSD means that it is JUNK. If I wanted a Tablet that does not allow expansion I would have gotten an iPad instead.
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Dockless, HDMI and MicroSD matter if you'll use them. If you're not going to use them, go with the Galaxy Tab.
Don't dare say they're useless features, or not worth the extra weight and size (very insignificant differences, imo)
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Yup it doesnt matter to Samsung user cause its $40.00 for hdmi adapter and $20.00 for the usb adapter.....Kinda silly looking with a Tampon string (hdmi/usb adapter) sticking out of the bottom of the tab.....
I don't have a dock but I went with the TF just for the MicroSD. It's a must. I do wish it was lighter.
seshmaru said:
who needs a detachable keyboard when weight doesn't matter? You can get notebooks with touch screens and you can put android on it if you want, you're an idiot lol notebooks are cheaper and more features who cares if they are heaver and bulkier and dont have detachable keyboards you don't need to slide it under a door after all RIGHT?
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You clearly don't understand the needs of other people.
I have a laptop - I can check my email, weather, news, facebook, twitter and see what the Amazon app of the day is BEFORE my laptop can load a browser... I spent $1400 on the laptop and find my investment in the Transformer for be head over heals better - I need things to be efficient, fast and trouble free and the Transformer provides me with that.
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If you find 130 grams to be too heavy (the weight of about 2 chocolate bars), then you might as well get the iPod Touch.
My 3 year old has no problems using my TF for extended periods of time. And last I checked, I had no need to slide it under a door - although it will fit.
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greatest responce ever looooool " slide it under the door hahaha"
samsung 10.1 is more expensive and worthless company behind it, i know i have a galaxy s and never again will i buy from samsung
" weighs the same as 2 coco bars" lmao
I am debating on which to buy. I've been wanting a tablet for awhile now and have slimmed it down to these two options, but would like some feed back if possible.
I'm looking for s-off and root (quickly glancing at the forums, it looks like both are able to achieve this. I like to toy and tinker with things and having a root, with s-off, is a must for this.
Are there any huge differences between the two? I am liking the additional dock available for the Transformer.
Going to post this in the Transformer forum as well. Iconia people, win me over!
The major differences are that the Transformer has that keyboard dock and a slightly better screen, while the Iconia has built-in USB host and slightly better sound.
I personally greatly prefer having the USB host port built into the device rather than in a bulky dock.
ASUS also appears to be doing a slightly better job of providing software updates than is Acer.
I'll be ordering an Iconia on Friday. I have seen both in the flesh and normal use as at work there's 1 guy with an Iconia and 2 with Transformers. The Iconia seems solidly built and no slower than the Transformer on 3.1, and the screens are almost identical. Not to mention the built in USB.
On the other hand both Transformers have been replaced already, one with a strange screen issue that looked like a liquid under the glass when you touched the screen, and one because the case doesn't line up properly - it creaks noticeably if you hold it landscape fashion.
Also I've been buying Acer kit for years (3 laptops and a netbook so far) and the oldest is still going strong after 5 years, no build quality issues in any of the Acer kit i've bought contrary to popular belief, and they've lasted longer than some of the so called premium brands we use at work.
I have a500 and a Transformer so, I think I can answer to your question... If you want my 2 cents opinion, the a500 is way better. I think the screen is more responsive and more brighten. Plus the transformer's screen get incredibly dirty very quickly. The usb thing has no comparison. Just, for example, I bought a cheap silicon keyboard and it works pretty well with the iconia. Same about the mouse. The transformer has just 2 advantages: 1) it's lighter 2) it has a way better microphone. About all the rest it is inferior or equal to the iconia.
If the mic, for you, is a must then buy a Transforemer. If it's not... then buy a a500.
Try both and decide for yourself. You will be happier.
Don't let others do your thinking for you.
If you can, definitely try both as bungaboy suggests, your own preferences may certainly steer you in a different path. In the end it could quite simply come down to something as off-the-cuff as the location of the front-facing camera.
In terms of companies, I currently have an Acer laptop (very happy with) and an Acer monitor (happy with), and have purchased and installed about 6 ASUS motherboards and video cards over time (only 1 less-than-stellar experience with those) so I'd happily recommend either company in general.
Just a quick reply before I go to work. I live in Japan. I don't have a Best Buy here. They have a Iconia A500 at the BX and I've played with it some, but can't compare to the Transformer.
I'll reply back later today when I have more time. Thanks for all the good input!
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Just a quick reply before I go to work. I live in Japan. I don't have a Best Buy here. They have a Iconia A500 at the BX and I've played with it some, but can't compare to the Transformer.
I'll reply back later today when I have more time. Thanks for all the good input!
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Alright. Thanks for all your replies everyone. I am and will decide for myself but since I cannot try out both I was reaching out to the community to give me their pro's and con's so I can weigh them for my own decision.
I'll have to go back to the BX later and play around with the Iconia some more. I didn't really play with the form factor, but what I really like from the Transformer is the keyboard/battery/etc dock. From my understanding it'll be future-compatible too.
why do you like the dock? will you carry with you all the time? if not, pointless. if you want a tab and a keyboard, wait a few more months till the asus eee slide comes out. i got an iconia, and as much as everyone at work bashes me for it, i can do much more than their ipad2
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why do you like the dock? will you carry with you all the time? if not, pointless. if you want a tab and a keyboard, wait a few more months till the asus eee slide comes out. i got an iconia, and as much as everyone at work bashes me for it, i can do much more than their ipad2
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I was going in with the idea of selling my laptop and leaving the dock at home and use while I'm there. And what is the eee slide? I was also looking at the ASUS W7 tablet they have.
Iconia is my preference... cause of USB port.
Is the Iconia capable of good tablet drawing?
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I have a500 and a Transformer so, I think I can answer to your question... If you want my 2 cents opinion, the a500 is way better. I think the screen is more responsive and more brighten. Plus the transformer's screen get incredibly dirty very quickly. The usb thing has no comparison. Just, for example, I bought a cheap silicon keyboard and it works pretty well with the iconia. Same about the mouse. The transformer has just 2 advantages: 1) it's lighter 2) it has a way better microphone. About all the rest it is inferior or equal to the iconia.
If the mic, for you, is a must then buy a Transforemer. If it's not... then buy a a500.
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lol, ignorance is bliss, eh? it is a well known fact that the Transformer screen is the second best android tablet screen on the market right now (after Gtab 10.1) while the Iconia screen is far behind.
OP, just go in store and compare the two side by side with the screen set at max brightness. You'll see the big difference especially when viewing from an angle. The Asus blows the Iconia away in this respect.
my 2 cents:
Asus Transformer
-way better screen (most important feature in a tablet, imho)
-a lot lighter then the Iconia (Iconia is the heaviest Android tablet)
-faster updates
-less freezes & runs smoother
-dock option
Acer Iconia
-USB port (the Transformer only has this on the dock)
-better built? allegedly. (my Asus is also very solid but the Iconia metal back feels stronger)
-better sound
-better camera (with flash)
For me it boils down to needing a USB port or not & to wanting the dock option or not.
If you don't need the USB port, then the Transformed is the obvious choice.
If you do (and don't want to spend the extra $150 for the dock) then go for the Acer.
Also if you really want a better screen and the dock option, again the obvious choice is the TF.
good luck & enjoy your new toy either or!
I just purchased the Iconia myself. But from forum postings of people who have bought both and checked them out, it seems people are generally more satisfied with the Transformer (apart from the people who got bleeding screens).
The guy above summed it up pretty well.
I bought both when the Staples coupon came out (Inconia from staples, TF from Office Depot), and kept them sealed in box for a couple of days while I did my research on which one I wanted to keep.
I spent a couple of hours over a few stores comparing and then read a bunch on forums, etc.
There is really no reasonable argument for Acer screen over the Asus. The TF is brighter and displays more colors, this is a fact, not opinion. I also thought things looked slightly sharper on the TF (perhaps it was due to the better contrast). I did not like the one port pulling all duties and its location (understandable as its for the keyboard as well). I have no intention of using a keyboard with any tab that use (I have laptops for that). The TF design appeals to me more, I like it's shape more.
I chose the Iconia over the TF due to the additional ports, better xda dev support and numerous reports of quality controls issues on the TF. Frankly, the last issue was the biggest factor in my decision.
The one complaint I have about the Iconia is the screen. It leaves MUCH to be desired. I'm not sure if it's a problem with the Iconia or with Android tablet screens in general, but you can easily see individual pixels on the screen if you hold the device closer than usual.
Text also is somewhat blurry, not sure if this is an issue with Android text rendering or with Iconia's screen.
Everything else is great though.
Hi, i'm planning to buy an iconia, but i've read on soms sites that the display can only display 265k colors while other devices have 16million.
Is this true? And if so, do you really recognise it if you compare it directly to another device?
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Yes Plestiuc, ignorance is a bliss... Even not being able to understand what's written is a bliss... and even attention lack is. If you re-read what I wrote, hoping you're able to focus on all the world and not just on random ones... you will notice I wrote: "If you want my 2 cents opinion". If you do not know the meaning of the word: "Opinion", I do suggest you to go back to elementary school.
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even tho the iconia is heavy keep in mind that all of the tablets are to heavy to comfortably hold with one hand for more than 5 min. soo I dont know how much the little wieght difference matters....
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Flussen said:
Hi, i'm planning to buy an iconia, but i've read on soms sites that the display can only display 265k colors while other devices have 16million.
Is this true? And if so, do you really recognise it if you compare it directly to another device?
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In all seriousness, you can't see it. I like the colors on both tablets, and the screen on the transformer is superb. But when I play a movie (the guy at the store let me try a video on the display transformer) I don't notice a difference. The black on the TF is a bit darker, and that's about it.
I didn't think that a built in USB was going to matter to me, but I am actually using it a TON. Thank you so much ACER!