Hello everyone
I am looking to root and install a custom ROM on my AT&T S4 SGH-i337 (MF3) phone. The whole process is confusing... I see one video saying this and another saying that. I finally found a site to root my phone but the loki recovery step says "loki aboot version does not match device" while using Terminal emulator. I wanted to install the FOXHOUND ROM or something similar. I just wish someone had ONE place to get the correct information for your specific phone.
The link below is where I found out how to root my S4.
honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/08/how-to-root-galaxy-s4-at-sgh-i337-on.html
This is where I downloaded my loki recovery
galaxys4root.com/clockworkmodtwrp-recoveries
Thank you so much for ANY information you can provide!
capth4u said:
Hello everyone
I am looking to root and install a custom ROM on my AT&T S4 SGH-i337 (MF3) phone. The whole process is confusing... I see one video saying this and another saying that. I finally found a site to root my phone but the loki recovery step says "loki aboot version does not match device" while using Terminal emulator. I wanted to install the FOXHOUND ROM or something similar. I just wish someone had ONE place to get the correct information for your specific phone.
The link below is where I found out how to root my S4.
honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/08/ how-to-root-galaxy-s4-at-sgh-i337-on.html
This is where I downloaded my loki recovery
galaxys4root.com/clockworkmodtwrp-recoveries
Thank you so much for ANY information you can provide!
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If your phone came with MF3 already then I'm afraid you can't flash Custom Roms yet since the bootloader is locked my friend.
Sent From My Galaxy S 4 SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 Running On New Deadly Venom v8.0.0
I would highly recommend you stop everything you're doing and put some time into reading up about MF3. You are likely to bork your phone if you continue. Cheers
capth4u said:
Hello everyone
I am looking to root and install a custom ROM on my AT&T S4 SGH-i337 (MF3) phone. The whole process is confusing... I see one video saying this and another saying that. I finally found a site to root my phone but the loki recovery step says "loki aboot version does not match device" while using Terminal emulator. I wanted to install the FOXHOUND ROM or something similar. I just wish someone had ONE place to get the correct information for your specific phone.
The link below is where I found out how to root my S4.
honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/08/how-to-root-galaxy-s4-at-sgh-i337-on.html
This is where I downloaded my loki recovery
galaxys4root.com/clockworkmodtwrp-recoveries
Thank you so much for ANY information you can provide!
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As the others mentioned, you should read up more on MF3, and stop trying to do anything to it. MF3 is the firmware version AT&T pushed out after the Loki exploit was released, and with it they patched the exploit.
From this point, you have a couple options:
1. Root using this method, and then use Xposed mods to customize your stock rom.
2. Follow this thread closely, and wait for Hashcode to release a working version.
Oh, and get your information only from this site. Don't go to galaxys4root.
mattdm said:
As the others mentioned, you should read up more on MF3, and stop trying to do anything to it. MF3 is the firmware version AT&T pushed out after the Loki exploit was released, and with it they patched the exploit.
From this point, you have a couple options:
1. Root using this method, and then use Xposed mods to customize your stock rom.
2. Follow this thread closely, and wait for Hashcode to release a working version.
Oh, and get your information only from this site. Don't go to galaxys4root.
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Thank you... My phone is already rooted so what should I do? Should I just leave it as is and wait for a fix for the recovery?
capth4u said:
Thank you... My phone is already rooted so what should I do? Should I just leave it as is and wait for a fix for the recovery?
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For now there's nothing you can do till someone unlocks the bootloader you can use the MOD WanamXposed.1.4.2 look it up in playstore make sure if you use it to install
first XposedInstaller_2.1.4 then WanamXposed.1.4.2 that's if your wanting to custimize the stock rom a bit, Read the instructions in playstore for WanamXposed.1.4.2
capth4u said:
Thank you... My phone is already rooted so what should I do? Should I just leave it as is and wait for a fix for the recovery?
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From what I see is you have 2 options.
Option 1: Keep your phone rooted and don't mess anything up. So you have to be very careful while rooted and not mess with the system files.
Option 2: Check this thread out as someone was able to reflash their galaxy s4 on mf3 at Best Buy' Samsung Kiosk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432427&highlight=mf3
mattdm said:
As the others mentioned, you should read up more on MF3, and stop trying to do anything to it. MF3 is the firmware version AT&T pushed out after the Loki exploit was released, and with it they patched the exploit.
From this point, you have a couple options:
1. Root using this method, and then use Xposed mods to customize your stock rom.
2. Follow this thread closely, and wait for Hashcode to release a working version.
Oh, and get your information only from this site. Don't go to galaxys4root.
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Slightly offtopic but I notice Hascode is working on Verizon's S4. How will Hascode's version be compatible with AT&T? Is it mainly because both verizon & at&t have a similar locked bootloader?
capth4u said:
Thank you... My phone is already rooted so what should I do? Should I just leave it as is and wait for a fix for the recovery?
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At this point, there's no harm in installing the Xposed Framework, and using Wanam Xposed. There are a lot of cool tweaks in there, and the only requirement is root, which you already have.
haremmon said:
Slightly offtopic but I notice Hascode is working on Verizon's S4. How will Hascode's version be compatible with AT&T? Is it mainly because both verizon & at&t have a similar locked bootloader?
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In Hashcode's OP, he says that he is developing SafeStrap for "the locked versions of the Samsung Galaxy S4." I assume that means both Verizon and AT&T.
Pick up a s4 today that is on mf3. But i dont think it came shipped with mf3. I duno if this has been asked but can i downgrade it sense it wasnt shipped with mf3?
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I was looking at using this tutorial to root my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
I went into my about phone, and saw in baseband version, i337ucuamf3 for the baseband version. mf3 is also in the build number. does this mean that I should not follow this tutorial then?
edit: If so, should I follow this tutorial?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577
Look at the second post in the guide. It links you to how to root if you have mf3. Read the whole first two posts as there's good info there.
Edit, yes
jd1639 said:
Look at the second post in the guide. It links you to how to root if you have mf3. Read the whole first two posts as there's good info there.
Edit, yes
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hm, ok, I may wait to root it then if a soft brick could break it.
sniper8752 said:
hm, ok, I may wait to root it then if a soft brick could break it.
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If you're not sure if you want to root it and why, I'd wait. If you mess something up there is not an odin flashable firmware that can recover your phone with.
To clarify, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577 will work just fine for your device. I did this with a new S4 that came with that version stock.
agent929 said:
To clarify, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577 will work just fine for your device. I did this with a new S4 that came with that version stock.
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i was reading through the thread, and found the only real advantage to doing this right now is just to be able to freeze bloatware. there is no way to install custom roms yet then?
sniper8752 said:
there is no way to install custom roms yet then?
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Not yet
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Forum Runner
sniper8752 said:
i was reading through the thread, and found the only real advantage to doing this right now is just to be able to freeze bloatware. there is no way to install custom roms yet then?
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Not yet, but I think that there will be a way shortly after Kies releases the MF3 update. I'm not a developer but historically the developers are smart enough they always find a way.
Greetings people on this forum, I just wanted to find out how to check the Bootloader status on my Note 3.
I bought this phone yesterday, and I thought I bought the Exynos version but apparently I got the Snapdragon 800 version signed to Verizon. Though I have my suspicions about my seller because they sold it to me in the spanish text box, stating it had the Exynos octacore chip inside. But I'm happy that it's not that version because the Snapdragon is better lol
It's the 32gb variant and I've been looking through the forums and saw the device has Cyanogenmod 11, but requires the Developer edition of the phone. Now I have absolutely no idea how to check bootloader status, which is why I'm posting here.
As you know, the model number is the SM N900V.
Any other information could be provided.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
rdar_93 said:
Greetings people on this forum, I just wanted to find out how to check the Bootloader status on my Note 3.
I bought this phone yesterday, and I thought I bought the Exynos version but apparently I got the Snapdragon 800 version signed to Verizon. Though I have my suspicions about my seller because they sold it to me in the spanish text box, stating it had the Exynos octacore chip inside. But I'm happy that it's not that version because the Snapdragon is better lol
It's the 32gb variant and I've been looking through the forums and saw the device has Cyanogenmod 11, but requires the Developer edition of the phone. Now I have absolutely no idea how to check bootloader status, which is why I'm posting here.
As you know, the model number is the SM N900V.
Any other information could be provided.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
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behind the battery it will say developer version or something like that while running you can use an app called Cpu-z to tell you much of the information you need to know and if you could tell us what version of android is running on it now we can tell you how screwed you are.
it should say something like this under baseband.
N900VVRUCNC4
If it says N900VVRUCNK1 and your android version is 4.4.4 your boned no root no roms.
nc4 has a slim glimmer of hope in that they forgot to blacklist the nc2 kernel and thus we have a way in with roms but as of yet there is no way to root NK1
rdar_93 said:
Greetings people on this forum, I just wanted to find out how to check the Bootloader status on my Note 3.
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I surmise that you want to know if your bootloader is locked or unlocked, correct?
Developer Edition phones have an unlocked bootloader. If you have a developer edition I would think you would have been so aware upon purchase. A seller would have made such a selling point.
If you have a Developer Edition, you will be able to use TWRP "recovery" to flash Cyanogen MOD. Of course, your phone will need to be rooted. Note, you will be limited to ROMs made exclusively for the Developer Edition.
Re Cyanogen Mod, if you have a Developer Edition you will be able to flash CM. If you do not then you will be somewhat limited
Cyanogen MOD for Dev Ed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600883
Jfyi, Verizon phones have a locked bootloader.
Fortunately, a forum member has provided a work-around recovery: Safestrap; which can be used to flash ROMs. Of course, your phone must be rooted. Though, because the bootloader is locked you will be limited in the (non-Dev Ed) roms and kernals available for use.
Safestrap Xda forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
mirrin said:
behind the battery it will say developer version or something like that while running you can use an app called Cpu-z to tell you much of the information you need to know and if you could tell us what version of android is running on it now we can tell you how screwed you are.
it should say something like this under baseband.
N900VVRUCNC4
If it says N900VVRUCNK1 and your android version is 4.4.4 your boned no root no roms.
nc4 has a slim glimmer of hope in that they forgot to blacklist the nc2 kernel and thus we have a way in with roms but as of yet there is no way to root NK1
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I took a snapshot of my cpuz and I've got the NC4 version so hopefully that counts for something lol I still dont know how to check for unlocked or locked status and it didnt say anything on the back of the phone. Plus I bought it from a retailer who I assume bought it refurbished and sold it here. Read the op and youll see why I say that lol but yeah if theres a tool I could use thatd be great
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Damn I was really hoping to get an AOSP rom for this phone. Touchwiz is so heavy
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Can you give me a short guide to follow?
Guys i tried rooting my sm n9005 using towelroot framaroot kingroot etc. But failed, does this mean that my bootloader is locked or something.?????
mohdfahad47 said:
Guys i tried rooting my sm n9005 using towelroot framaroot kingroot etc. But failed, does this mean that my bootloader is locked or something.?????
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No. It probably means you have upgraded your phone to a point where root is not attainable. Go into About Phone and see what version of the Android OS you are running. If it is 4.4.4, their is no root available for that.
Root and Bootloader are two different things. Bootloader is locked on our device as well.
christianpeso said:
No. It probably means you have upgraded your phone to a point where root is not attainable. Go into About Phone and see what version of the Android OS you are running. If it is 4.4.4, their is no root available for that.
Root and Bootloader are two different things. Bootloader is locked on our device as well.
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Oh..thanks for the info. Well im on kitkat 4.4.2. Ok wil my device get rooted if i try rooting from cf auto root?
mohdfahad47 said:
Oh..thanks for the info. Well im on kitkat 4.4.2. Ok wil my device get rooted if i try rooting from cf auto root?
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4.4.2 should be able to be rooted with TowelRoot.
https://towelroot.com/
Super easy. Just download to phone and run the .apk
What about 4.4.4 ???
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What about 4.4.4 ???
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Cannot save or install ROMs - Rooted, SafeStrap installed, Knox OK
Howdy, folks!
My Verizon Note 3 details: SM-N900V / Android 4.4.2 / Kernel 3.4.0-1487472 / build version NC4 / bootloader NC4 / Knox = 0x0.
Device is rooted (via TowelRoot and confirmed with Titanium Backup). SafeStrap 3.75 is "Installed". BusyBox 1.232 is installed.
As I understand it, in order to save or install ROMs I *must* use SafeStrap.
When I run SafeStrap the screen shows "State: Installed" and "Safe System: Not Active".
Tapping "Reboot to Recovery" does reboot the phone but I do NOT get any options to save or install any ROMs. The phone just reboots.
I thought I read somewhere I may need to (somehow) roll back to NC2...
Any ideas, folks?
Thanks!
TheMudshark said:
Howdy, folks!
My Verizon Note 3 details: SM-N900V / Android 4.4.2 / Kernel 3.4.0-1487472 / build version NC4 / bootloader NC4 / Knox = 0x0.
Device is rooted (via TowelRoot and confirmed with Titanium Backup). SafeStrap 3.75 is "Installed". BusyBox 1.232 is installed.
As I understand it, in order to save or install ROMs I *must* use SafeStrap.
When I run SafeStrap the screen shows "State: Installed" and "Safe System: Not Active".
Tapping "Reboot to Recovery" does reboot the phone but I do NOT get any options to save or install any ROMs. The phone just reboots.
I thought I read somewhere I may need to (somehow) roll back to NC2...
Any ideas, folks?
Thanks!
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You must have busybox installed for the safestrap install to truly work. So...install busybox, reboot, re-install safestrap, reboot and should now be able to reboot into safestrap recovery.
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FIXED!
Instead of removing SafeStrap to do clean reinstalls I just installed SafeStrap over itself.
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
Dravekx said:
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
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I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
rdar_93 said:
I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
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That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Copied from another post I had.
I don't know much about the device which is why I'm trying to find out.
Dravekx said:
That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
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I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
rdar_93 said:
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
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Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
rdar_93 said:
I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
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Dravekx said:
Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
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Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
rdar_93 said:
Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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The kernel can't be changed...although it can be "tuned" if you have root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58813428
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
BladeRunner said:
It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
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Thanks man, I was supposed to update this thread saying that I got through with the proper procedure for installing Jasmine Rom
Although I was running Eclipse before, and I wanted to try going back to stock but it just got stuck on the Verizon splash screen
I'm thinking it's because I had the NC2 kernel active when I should have gone back to the NC4 kernel
I looked for a NC4 kernel to flash but I only saw the modems and tar files, so not knowing if those were the same as kernels I decided to just try Jasmine. So far, I like it.
I have crazy battery drain though. I think it's because I'm running it in Slot 1
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
en11gma said:
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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Safestrap does not trip knox.
mjh68 said:
Safestrap does not trip knox.
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Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
rdar_93 said:
Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
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It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
mjh68 said:
It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
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Then I must be confused about what knox really is.
What is "Knox" then?
I've spent hours searching and I know this is an old phone. Is ther anyway to root the Lollipop and download Jelly Bean (custom or stock) to it? I'm not worried about Warranties. I'm not exactly a newb and I don't like Lollipop at all. I don't mind KitKat, but what I hate is the front facing camera can't be flipped. Dumbest thing ever.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-sprint
Search for CF-Autoroot.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-sprint
Search for CF-Autoroot.
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I'm supposedly rooted. I used KingRoot and then switched over yo SuperSU. But I can't seem to get the Rom's to install. This is where I'm probably going wrong. I'm assuming it has to do with the Bootloader.
BikerSk8rKid said:
I'm supposedly rooted. I used KingRoot and then switched over yo SuperSU. But I can't seem to get the Rom's to install. This is where I'm probably going wrong. I'm assuming it has to do with the Bootloader.
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Ask the right questions if you want the right answer.
You said you're not a newb. So what exactly was the procedure used to to install those ROMs?
Well, you should be using CF-Autoroot, as it's the recommended method to root these devices. That said, unless you have a frankenphone, only AT&T and Verizon models have locked bootloaders. Enter download mode and verify your device's model number please?
GDReaper said:
Ask the right questions if you want the right answer.
You said you're not a newb. So what exactly was the procedure used to to install those ROMs?
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I was half asleep and stressed out when I posted this. It's been a couple weeks or longer since I messed with the phone. Damn forums weren't resetting my password. When I mean I'm not a newb I mean I'm not like brand new to this and I know how to research. I guess you could say I'm not THAT stupid. haha
I'mma have to try this again and figure out what path's I kept trying. I'm so spaced out I can't remember hard any of it. Just that I tried to flash a stock and rooted rom with old odin and new odin. Spent 2 days straight messing with it and trying to get around it. But I kept getting blocked. I didn't come across CF-Autoroot. So I'll try that.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Well, you should be using CF-Autoroot, as it's the recommended method to root these devices. That said, unless you have a frankenphone, only AT&T and Verizon models have locked bootloaders. Enter download mode and verify your device's model number please?
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Of all the researching I've done (I couldn't login) that one never showed up in my searchs. haha I'll have to give that one a try. It's been a couple weeks or longer. SPH-L720. I had a few Tri-Bands, but it seemed those were limited compared to the standard model.
Update: I went the CF-AutoRoot route and then tried to use Odin to flash stock mk2 rom. Now that I remember it kept failing everytime and then it would corrupt the current rom. I also tried using TWRP and couldn't get it to work properly.
That's a Sprint device, so your bootloader is unlocked.
Here's something you should note: If you want to flash a ROM, of any kind, you don't necessarily have to be rooted.
Stock ROMs require Odin and custom ROMs require a custom recovery. None of them require root.
Your flash to an older version fails most probably due to the fact that you're trying to downgrade the bootloader (Any stock ROM flash also modifies the bootloader and modem partitions).
But your windows, cable, USB port and windows can also be at fault here.
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That's a Sprint device, so your bootloader is unlocked.
Here's something you should note: If you want to flash a ROM, of any kind, you don't necessarily have to be rooted.
Stock ROMs require Odin and custom ROMs require a custom recovery. None of them require root.
Your flash to an older version fails most probably due to the fact that you're trying to downgrade the bootloader (Any stock ROM flash also modifies the bootloader and modem partitions).
But your windows, cable, USB port and windows can also be at fault here.
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For some reason I kept reading that it was locked or thinking it was locked because of not being able to downgrade.
So that's what I thought and I guess that's what I was trying to get at in my first post. Trying to go from Lollipop 5 to Jelly Bean 4.3 or so. Is it possible to do that whether it's custom or not?
I just hate the Lollipop and the KitKat. My Galaxy S2 had the JB and Power Button took a crap. So I ended up getting a S3 and now been sitting on an S4.
I know it's not the cable or at least it shouldn't be because it works to flash the stock current rom everytime I corrupt it. The computer is like brand new and running Windows 8.1
BikerSk8rKid said:
For some reason I kept reading that it was locked or thinking it was locked because of not being able to downgrade.
So that's what I thought and I guess that's what I was trying to get at in my first post. Trying to go from Lollipop 5 to Jelly Bean 4.3 or so. Is it possible to do that whether it's custom or not?
I just hate the Lollipop and the KitKat. My Galaxy S2 had the JB and Power Button took a crap. So I ended up getting a S3 and now been sitting on an S4.
I know it's not the cable or at least it shouldn't be because it works to flash the stock current rom everytime I corrupt it. The computer is like brand new and running Windows 8.1
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Downgrading sometimes succeeds. There are also guides on how to downgrade, though there aren't any special procedures. Maybe the bootloader version of the firmware-to-be-flashed matters.
With custom ROMs it's definitely possible, as they do not change the bootloader.
GDReaper said:
Downgrading sometimes succeeds. There are also guides on how to downgrade, though there aren't any special procedures. Maybe the bootloader version of the firmware-to-be-flashed matters.
With custom ROMs it's definitely possible, as they do not change the bootloader.
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I guess I'm more of a newb with this than I expected. :/ It's been years since I've been on the forums or even tinkered with phones. HTC Touch Pro 2 was the last one I believe. haha
So... With that being said. Custom Roms are typically to the current stock rom, correct? or is it possible to get a Custom Jelly Bean and flash/overwrite it to the Lollipop/current? Since I just tripped wit the Knox Warranty with the CF-AutoRoot. LoL
BikerSk8rKid said:
I guess I'm more of a newb with this than I expected. :/ It's been years since I've been on the forums or even tinkered with phones. HTC Touch Pro 2 was the last one I believe. haha
So... With that being said. Custom Roms are typically to the current stock rom, correct? or is it possible to get a Custom Jelly Bean and flash/overwrite it to the Lollipop/current? Since I just tripped wit the Knox Warranty with the CF-AutoRoot. LoL
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If you can find some viable download links, then yes, you should be able to flash custom jelly bean ROMs. But you need a custom recovery in order to do that.
The recovery can be flashed with Odin. Or, since you're rooted, you can also flash a recovery by using an app called Flashify.
Odin requires a .tar file and Flashify requires a .img file.
Oh, and you also need the gapps package for the Google Apps. You need a package for that specific android version, so it should be jelly bean gapps.
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If you can find some viable download links, then yes, you should be able to flash custom jelly bean ROMs. But you need a custom recovery in order to do that.
The recovery can be flashed with Odin. Or, since you're rooted, you can also flash a recovery by using an app called Flashify.
Odin requires a .tar file and Flashify requires a .img file.
Oh, and you also need the gapps package for the Google Apps. You need a package for that specific android version, so it should be jelly bean gapps.
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I'll look into that and give it a shot. Thank you! I knew it wasn't THAT easy. LOL
I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 (G900V) that I rooted a couple of years ago and never updated any further. It's currently running 4.4.4 / NK2 and I've been looking at upgrading to a Lollipop build. I have the Toshiba 11x eMMC so it doesn't sound like Marshmallow is an option if I want to keep root. I've spent significant time rooting through the forums and I can't seem to find a method to update my phone from KitKat to Lollipop (while keeping root) that is current, has the necessary files available to download, and works. Using FlashFire and G900V_OE1_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip followed by Odin and an OD5 bootloader is failing on my phone for whatever reason. The other methods, including muniz_ri's, don't seem to have current files available for download.
I've fried my brain searching with no success. If anyone could point me to current directions/files to upgrade from KitKat to a solid Lollipop build while maintaining my root access, it would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thank you.
I would Odin this file https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24438995911970571
That will take you to stock PB1 then follow this guide to get root https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
Then I would use flash fire or LP safe strap to flash a ROM I recommended
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ang5litre-edition-5-0-pb1-devnon-dev-t3381850 or https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...enix-rom-9-0-ported-g900v-ported-rom-t3188443
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I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 (G900V) that I rooted a couple of years ago and never updated any further. It's currently running 4.4.4 / NK2 and I've been looking at upgrading to a Lollipop build. I have the Toshiba 11x eMMC so it doesn't sound like Marshmallow is an option if I want to keep root. I've spent significant time rooting through the forums and I can't seem to find a method to update my phone from KitKat to Lollipop (while keeping root) that is current, has the necessary files available to download, and works. Using FlashFire and G900V_OE1_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip followed by Odin and an OD5 bootloader is failing on my phone for whatever reason. The other methods, including muniz_ri's, don't seem to have current files available for download.
I've fried my brain searching with no success. If anyone could point me to current directions/files to upgrade from KitKat to a solid Lollipop build while maintaining my root access, it would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thank you.
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You have root so just skip the rooting part everything you need is here to https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71202995&postcount=3
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You have root so just skip the rooting part everything you need is here to https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71202995&postcount=3
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So if I'm reading that correctly, I can skip to step #9 of the "Directions For Users With CID 11' Toshiba eMMC" section and then use the EMMC_11_PB1_5_0_1_LL_Firmware_Bootloader.zip and VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9.zip files. Is that correct?
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So if I'm reading that correctly, I can skip to step #9 of the "Directions For Users With CID 11' Toshiba eMMC" section and then use the EMMC_11_PB1_5_0_1_LL_Firmware_Bootloader.zip and VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9.zip files. Is that correct?
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Yes. You must have safestrap and use it to flash EMMC_11_PB1_5_0_1_LL_Firmware_Bootloader.zip and rom
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Yes. You must have safestrap and use it to flash EMMC_11_PB1_5_0_1_LL_Firmware_Bootloader.zip and rom
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Success! Now on 5.0 and PB1 with no significant issues during or after the upgrade.
Many thanks!
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Yes. You must have safestrap and use it to flash EMMC_11_PB1_5_0_1_LL_Firmware_Bootloader.zip and rom
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Let me add a caveat to that success story. I do notice that I don't have the Safestrap recovery option during the boot up process and it looks like this is expected behavior for Lollipop. The "Reboot to Recovery" option with the app is also not active or functional. What's the best way to get back the full Safestrap functionality? I found the below thread of yours but I'm not sure if the files and instructions are current. Thoughts?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/safestrap-5-0-lollipop-t3313800
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Yes. You must have safestrap and use it to flash EMMC_11_PB1_5_0_1_LL_Firmware_Bootloader.zip and rom
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OrneryTX said:
Let me add a caveat to that success story. I do notice that I don't have the Safestrap recovery option during the boot up process and it looks like this is expected behavior for Lollipop. The "Reboot to Recovery" option with the app is also not active or functional. What's the best way to get back the full Safestrap functionality? I found the below thread of yours but I'm not sure if the files and instructions are current. Thoughts?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/safestrap-5-0-lollipop-t3313800
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I think I see where I went wrong with Safestrap but it's going to be a little while before I can investigate further. Don't want to brick my phone at work and not be able to phone home.
I'll update after I do some more troubleshooting.
Thanks again.