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Pinch to zoom quick sand?

Thinking about the N4 as a secondary phone but I played with one in the T-Mobile store and noticed that pinch to zoom seemed to be pretty unresponsive and disappointing and that's putting it lightly. When pinching to zoom it felt as if I was moving my fingers through quick sand. It was as if my fingers had to literally transverse half of the entire screen before the phone started to react. Can anyone else confirm this? Like I said, this will be my secondary phone and my primary will be an iPhone 5 so I will going back and forth between the 2 phones often which will make the poor responsiveness even more noticeable and bloody annoying since the iPhone is very responsive and accurate in this department. So now I'm rethinking my purchase of this phone. Again can anyone confirm this??? Thanks

mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.

Its like people are just finding reason not to buy this phone cause it has real issues or they just like to complain....personal I think your all crazy . My coworker got his nexus 4 last week and its ****ing awesome the camera in HDR mode is amazing the data speeds are top notch and the screen is responsive. I don't know it everyone and there mama was playing with the display phone at T-Mobile ,but here a story I was playing with a Gs3 at T-Mobile and found pictures of a girls ***** on it .
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stormtroopercs said:
mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.
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There was another thread on this yesterday - this is actually Google almost certainly designing around someone else's patent on touchscreen usage. They probably figured that what was going on in older versions was too close to Apple's or someone else's precise method for interpreting multitouch input, so they designed something effective but different enough to avoid litigation. There's a reason why neither Apple nor Microsoft have sued Google directly over Android - Google designs around patents pretty well.

I wrote about this yday... Seriously. . try Firefox
Also , qickpix for gallery doesnt have the issue either
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stormtroopercs said:
mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.
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but why should you zoom in accidentally? you use two fingers to zoom..
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Falzar said:
I was playing with a Gs3 at T-Mobile and found pictures of a girls ***** on it .
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italia0101 said:
I wrote about this yday... Seriously. . try Firefox
Also , qickpix for gallery doesnt have the issue either
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I hear ya, but even still it'd pretty annoying and making me think before I buy. Honestly I'm a stock app kinda guy. I like the stock apps, I actually want to use Chrome but I can't, I want to use the stock gallery since it would be more integrated but I can't without this bug/feature this will also make using Google maps bloody annoying more than anything as when using maps there is a lot of zooming in and out. I'm wondering if other ROMs have this issue with the N4 or not.... Hmmm... That would be an indicator if there was more of a real issue/hardware level issue or not. Wondering if Cyanogen, Paranoid, or AOKP would have the same issue...

this is such a moot issue based completely on software filtering/calibration of your touches. Capacitors are hyper sensitive to touches, so much so that you have to tone it down and filter out all the noise... You can easily go into the software and figure out where the pinch-zoom controls are and fix them...
I am running codefireX's build and my pinch to zoom works perfectly in gallery, chrome, maps, camera. Registers my touch input no mater what I try.
If this is a deal breaker for you, I would be more worried about thermal throttling issues tbh... Those are actually hardware related.

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this is such a moot issue based completely on software filtering/calibration of your touches. Capacitors are hyper sensitive to touches, so much so that you have to tone it down and filter out all the noise... You can easily go into the software and figure out where the pinch-zoom controls are and fix them...
I am running codefireX's build and my pinch to zoom works perfectly in gallery, chrome, maps, camera. Registers my touch input no mater what I try.
If this is a deal breaker for you, I would be more worried about thermal throttling issues tbh... Those are actually hardware related.
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So you're saying right out of the box you can go into settings and configure pin h to zoom to react immediately rather than after transversing half the screen before it starts reacting?

Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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Awesome . hopefully Google will fix it for stock users
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elliot.newnham said:
Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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Which ROM and could you perhaps record a video for us?

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Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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I'd like to know wHich ROM that is as well. I ordered my N4 but I definitely want to fix this before I do anything as.

Eye Strain?

Wondering if anyone else had this problem. After playing games (both tekkin 3 and hill racing) I notice that my vision is blurry and I feel kind of dizzy. This has happened 4+ times so far. What I did is lowered my brightness settings all the way to 0 but I still get the same problem (although I think its less severe).
Anyone please help? I dont want to have to change phones since I love this one and have bought many accessories (palm touchstone chargers, cases, gameklip,ect).

Hehe actually I do experience blury vision after im playing awhile

bob2300nx said:
Wondering if anyone else had this problem. After playing games (both tekkin 3 and hill racing) I notice that my vision is blurry and I feel kind of dizzy. This has happened 4+ times so far. What I did is lowered my brightness settings all the way to 0 but I still get the same problem (although I think its less severe).
Anyone please help? I dont want to have to change phones since I love this one and have bought many accessories (palm touchstone chargers, cases, gameklip,ect).
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Use lux dash app it will lower your brightness up to -90%
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Nah use screen filter champ
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Yeah, Screen Filter can help, but I myself actually find the display of my S3 a relief after a whole day od LCD screens (work+home).

Glad it aint just me.
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rossgucci said:
Hehe actually I do experience blury vision after im playing awhile
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Sorry to hear that, its a very annoying issue.
nitinvaid said:
Use lux dash app it will lower your brightness up to -90%
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Nah use screen filter champ
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Thanks going to try that. Is there anyway to increase the range of brightness settings in the kernal so we dont have to run an app? Using CM kernal. Hopefully there is a way.
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Glad it aint just me.
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Yeah it really cant be healthy for your eyes. Definitely a disappointment.

Wavy screen?

Any one else have a jittery screen? Occasionally my screen seems to glitch and like... I don't know... Fizzle to the right kind of and then returns to normal. Is this a known issue? Any one else have the issue I describe? I can't tell if it's the phone or the firmware (Stock), and if resetting it will work out or not. I think it's the phone personally and could classify as a manufacturers defect. Any thoughts?
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Zero Computing said:
Any one else have a jittery screen? Occasionally my screen seems to glitch and like... I don't know... Fizzle to the right kind of and then returns to normal. Is this a known issue? Any one else have the issue I describe? I can't tell if it's the phone or the firmware (Stock), and if resetting it will work out or not. I think it's the phone personally and could classify as a manufacturers defect. Any thoughts?
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That started happening to me too; I just thought it was an app freaking out. Every now and then it just jiggles left and right, as if it were shaking. Heck, I even had it happen in TWRP w/ Safestrap when doing a backup.
You have me worried about my own device now, lol.
I am on 4.1.2 and have not seen this issue before the update. I am rooted, but not unlocked.

Yea happens to me too never happened until the update
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It happened to me before the update but not at all this bad, nor as noticeable.
Maybe it is software related them. This came with 4.1.1 just updated the other day and now it is definitely worse.
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Mine does it as well. Looks similar to how the screen shakes when you enter the screen lock password incorrectly but seems to be random. Most likely a software issue.
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Yeah, but, it happens way too much for it to be acceptable or normal. Simple as that, my phone should not be twitching.
It went from happening once or twice every other day, to happening more than ten to twenty times a day. That's unnecessary, and unbelievably annoying.
I think I'm going to call Motorola.
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Same here. mines rare though
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Happens to me as well, both at the lock screen and when using the phone, ( like browsing the internet) Most likely software related and not something to worry about

Mine does it too, seems to be common with this device.

I would assume firmware too, due to the above report of it happening in recovery.
It should still be brought to Motorola's attention in my opinion. It seems to be getting worse on my device though.
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Happening to me to. I'm completely stock, non-rooted, running the latest OTA 4.1.2
Seems to be getting worse too

Happening to me since the update as well. Stock unrooted.
Also seems to be increasing in frequency.

Yeah my frequency is increasing as well here, and I'm thinking it's firmware / hardware, not software. Driver issue maybe? But I'm thinking it's mostly hardware related since most seem not to be having the issue we have, leading me to believe it's a manufacturer's defect
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Zero Computing said:
Yeah my frequency is increasing as well here, and I'm thinking it's firmware / hardware, not software. Driver issue maybe? But I'm thinking it's mostly hardware related since most seem not to be having the issue we have, leading me to believe it's a manufacturer's defect
it doesnt happen on cm10
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ifrankie10 said:
Zero Computing said:
Yeah my frequency is increasing as well here, and I'm thinking it's firmware / hardware, not software. Driver issue maybe? But I'm thinking it's mostly hardware related since most seem not to be having the issue we have, leading me to believe it's a manufacturer's defect
it doesnt happen on cm10
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Hmm, so other ROMs are unaffected. Interesting. Weird since mine does it in safe strap (twrp), but I guess its a very low level driver freaking out.
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Not sure really. It's like to switch to another Rom to test if it happens on non stock on my phone... But I'm not doing anything to it until I see a Rom that I feel is stable enough and aosp based.
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Hey, just curious if anyone with this problem has used the xfinity app for watching video at all... I now have a similar problem on this s3 im using after using xfinity app
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It was happening to me after using the full!screen app. I uninstalled and wiped caches while in recovery and problem solved
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Anyone else having this problem

Ive already taken one gs4 during my 14 day period for it massivley getting hot. Anyone else had this issue
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Kole_Ackerson said:
Ive already taken one gs4 during my 14 day period for it massivley getting hot. Anyone else had this issue
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Mobile devices can get up to 110 degress(or more) in certain circumstances. For example, when playing highly graphical/intense games, while GPS navigating/streaming music, streaming/playing movies, or AC charging... or any combination of the aforementioned.

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Mobile devices can get up to 110 degress(or more) in certain circumstances. For example, when playing highly graphical/intense games, while GPS navigating/streaming music, streaming/playing movies, or AC charging... or any combination of the aforementioned.
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This one is different. Itd get hot to where you couldn't touch your skin to it and then it would shut off
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Kole_Ackerson said:
This one is different. Itd get hot to where you couldn't touch your skin to it and then it would shut off
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I get that, but that doesn't change what I'm talking about. If you're doing any of the things I've mentioned on the phone, it can get very hot and yes, it will turn itself off to protect itself from overheating. Your car and computer do the same things. Overclocking can also cause the phone to generate more heat than normal.
If you're trying to tell me that you're just talking on the phone, letting it sit idle on your desk, and/or looking at Facebook and you're reaching those temperatures, I A) find that hard to believe B) need to know more information to try and help you find out what's going on.

I get your trying to help me and I realize that but your firdt assumption in 100% correct. Yes. I find it hard to believe to but thats what happened
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Did you ever try turning off wifi, Bluetooth, GPS separately to see which is causing the heat up. That level of heat sounds like a defect but it still would be isolated to a particular component. Should have checked the battery too.

hamzer11 said:
Did you ever try turning off wifi, Bluetooth, GPS separately to see which is causing the heat up. That level of heat sounds like a defect but it still would be isolated to a particular component. Should have checked the battery too.
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I did all of those to an extent and it would drop in heat a little but still be almost unbearable. And I did aquire a replacement battery from att and it did not change
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Kole_Ackerson said:
I did all of those to an extent and it would drop in heat a little but still be almost unbearable. And I did aquire a replacement battery from att and it did not change
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You got a replacement, correct? Is the new one okay? It could have been a bad module or a bad contact not conducting properly. In any case it does seem like a rare thing. I actually love how this phone doesn't get very hot.

hamzer11 said:
You got a replacement, correct? Is the new one okay? It could have been a bad module or a bad contact not conducting properly. In any case it does seem like a rare thing. I actually love how this phone doesn't get very hot.
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Yes I did. And this one is running perfect so far
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Lag city :(

I'm running a rooted, cleaned up, stock mf3 ROM and its just terrible in terms of lag. Scrolling anywhere is jerky and awful looking, pulling down the notification shade is like 10 fps sometimes. Is this really the best it can do on touchwiz? My other devices are HTC One GPe, N4, Note 2, etc...
They're all faster! Help!
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eallan said:
I'm running a rooted, cleaned up, stock mf3 ROM and its just terrible in terms of lag. Scrolling anywhere is jerky and awful looking, pulling down the notification shade is like 10 fps sometimes. Is this really the best it can do on touchwiz? My other devices are HTC One GPe, N4, Note 2, etc...
They're all faster! Help!
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you can try to going into developer options and enabling force gpu rendering

Turned on. Will report back.
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eallan said:
Turned on. Will report back.
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Still terribly laggy. Is this really how this phone operates? Using my nexus 4 is like a dream compared to this.
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Honestly I haven't noticed lag, if I were you after attempting to cut down lag, use your warranty.
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HiTideBlastoise said:
Honestly I haven't noticed lag, if I were you after attempting to cut down lag, use your warranty.
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I am envious. There is no way its a hardware issue. Wake your device and pull the notification shade down quickly. What's it look like?
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also set all the animations to 0, it will fly.

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I am envious. There is no way its a hardware issue. Wake your device and pull the notification shade down quickly. What's it look like?
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Quick and fast
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Quick and fast
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Mines quick sometimes if already awake... I'd love to see a video of it being quick.
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eallan said:
Mines quick sometimes if already awake... I'd love to see a video of it being quick.
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My notif bar is always quick when I pull it down, even when I wake the phone from sleep then pull it down ...I think you just have to tweak kernel and rom settings a bit. Or clear cache...dalvik and app data. Quicker then the htc one from att I had..

Thats just your device man. Mine is smooth as butter, and always has been. I would double check to make sure power saving is disabled, and if it is, then your best bet is to factory reset and see if that makes an improvement.

Try @zepplinrox V6-SuperCharger script!!
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eallan said:
I'm running a rooted, cleaned up, stock mf3 ROM and its just terrible in terms of lag. Scrolling anywhere is jerky and awful looking, pulling down the notification shade is like 10 fps sometimes. Is this really the best it can do on touchwiz? My other devices are HTC One GPe, N4, Note 2, etc...
They're all faster! Help!
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User error

I had practically no lag out of the box. . . so maybe your phone has a hardware issue.
(since rooting and flashing Shostock2.1, and setting animations to 0 my phone is quick!)
The condition you describe is not normal for our model.
Good Luck

i Had same problems or close to same.
i had phone freezing and also flipping home screen used to freeze I went back stock and re root and flashed custom rom close to stock and i seen no lag
Maybe try some of custom roms ?

Monkz said:
Thats just your device man. Mine is smooth as butter, and always has been. I would double check to make sure power saving is disabled, and if it is, then your best bet is to factory reset and see if that makes an improvement.
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I've run about 3 different Roms and I use the gs4 and One daily. The one is quicker. I know from reviews and Google searches I'm not alone in experiencing the lag. Maybe some people are more perseptive to it?
The Google edition ROM was quicker. I already have the Google play edition one though, so I was trying to use touch wiz. I'll see if I can video the lag.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEyWvct85I4
It's not just me!

eallan said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEyWvct85I4
It's not just me!
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I see no lag on mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ah2dXUhWgM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sorry bout the noise...playing gmod lol
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mg2195 said:
I see no lag on mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ah2dXUhWgM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sorry bout the noise...playing gmod lol
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Private vid!
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eallan said:
Private vid!
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Fixed...my bad lol uploaded from my old phone and thats default setting I guess
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