(BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH)
OK, I have a dead Nook on my hands - non-responsive completely. A coworker of mine bought one of those CM7 cards off of Ebay and it worked fine, but had some connection issues, so I suggested he make a move to PA. Of course, I was the one that was going to do this, so I installed CWR to the EMMC, rebooted, hit N, and booted to EMMC recovery no problem.
Here's where things got stupid:
In recovery, I attempted to install PA without removing the sd card and used the internal SD Card to grab the image. Yeah, I know... Browbeating not necessary... It was taking too long and appeared stuck, and then suddenly the unit just appeared to power down. That was it. No more recovery, the card no longer worked, NOTHING!
Hooked it up to my PC and for a second or two when you hook it up, you can see in the device manager, the Motorola device pops up (I own a Motorola phone, so I assume the drivers are kicking in), and then it goes away. Long press power, do it again, same results. Still no screen, no nothing.
So I figure the 16GB CM7 card (Sandisk SDHC) still has to be useful for creating a recovery card, right? After all, whoever created it originally was able to stuff a bootloader on there, right?
So here's what I tried in terms of tools:
win32diskimager .1 r15
win32diskimager .7
WinImage 8.5
with these, I have tried the following images:
16gb_clockwork-3.0.2.8.img
generic-sdcard-v1.3.img
TWRP-2.1.8-bootable-SD.img
And I used MiniTool Partition Wizard to remove the partitions after each attempt and reformat back to its full 16GB.
The only time a burn was unsuccessful was on the 16GB clockwork with Win32DiskImager - it gave an error stating it couldn't find sectors at 99%. I tried an 8GB image too, but while it burned successfully, no dice.
Alright, so here we are, me at the end of my wits, you reading this tale of woe, and a coworker without a functioning device. The device has charged all night. I owned an NC for years and was mod-happy during that time, and although I had BSOD, I was able to fix it easily. This is a 1 year old BNRV200 (pretty sure they didn't switch up the models).
Help? Advice? WT%#$%^?
EDIT: ADB does not recognize the device when connected.
Go to my NC partition repair thread linked in my signature and follow the procedures there.
Use SDFormatter free on the web for formatting your card before burning one of my bootable CWM images. Don't use partitioning software. The NC is real finicky about how cards are burned. Look at my NC Tips thread and read item A9.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
Go to my NC partition repair thread linked in my signature and follow the procedures there.
Use SDFormatter free on the web for formatting your card before burning one of my bootable CWM images. Don't use partitioning software. The NC is real finicky about how cards are burned. Look at my NC Tips thread and read item A9.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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OK, so I used SD Formatter v3.1, size adjustment ON, Full Format (Erase)
Then I used win32diskimager v.7 with CWM-6.0.1.2-bootable_SD - still no boot.
Went back to SD Formatter, rinse, repeat.
Then I used win32diskimager v.1 r15 with same image - still DOA.
Anything I'm missing? I'm going to try 5.5.0.4 in the meantime, but I have my doubts that it will make a difference.
majorpay said:
OK, so I used SD Formatter v3.1, size adjustment ON, Full Format (Erase)
Then I used win32diskimager v.7 with CWM-6.0.1.2-bootable_SD - still no boot.
Went back to SD Formatter, rinse, repeat.
Then I used win32diskimager v.1 r15 with same image - still DOA.
Anything I'm missing? I'm going to try 5.5.0.4 in the meantime, but I have my doubts that it will make a difference.
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sometimes difficult, keep trying.
Edit, are you following advice in A9, like using external USB card reader?
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
sometimes difficult, keep trying.
Edit, are you following advice in A9, like using external USB card reader?
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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I'm running W8 on all my PCs (doubt that matters?)
Tried 5.5 - no luck.
Switched to a 512mb SD Card, no luck.
Switched to an external card reader (crap one), no luck.
Switched to using external reader without sd-microsd adapter, no luck.
Running out of options here. I gave my old Nook to my dad, so maybe I can go pick it up for sanity checking... I may try these cards in that one just to verify this isn't a full on hardware issue. That would seem strange and highly suspect given this just so happened to occur when I was attempting to install PA. If I can nail it down to that, I suspect it's somehow my fault, and I will need to replace it. If I can't, then I will need to buy a new CM 7 card from Ebay for the guy.
How do you own a Nook for years with never a single problem you couldn't fix, and the one time you touch someone else's, it goes all to hell?
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majorpay said:
I'm running W8 on all my PCs (doubt that matters?)
Tried 5.5 - no luck.
Switched to a 512mb SD Card, no luck.
Switched to an external card reader (crap one), no luck.
Switched to using external reader without sd-microsd adapter, no luck.
Running out of options here. I gave my old Nook to my dad, so maybe I can go pick it up for sanity checking... I may try these cards in that one just to verify this isn't a full on hardware issue. That would seem strange and highly suspect given this just so happened to occur when I was attempting to install PA. If I can nail it down to that, I suspect it's somehow my fault, and I will need to replace it. If I can't, then I will need to buy a new CM 7 card from Ebay for the guy.
How do you own a Nook for years with never a single problem you couldn't fix, and the one time you touch someone else's, it goes all to hell?
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brother what to tell you my nook color is also dead similarly since last 3 weeks.i also tried everything under the roof like bootable sd card.i also opened a topic in help section but did not get a single reply.i wrote to lepinllair also but even he does not know what to do . i miss my nook everyday. i appeal to nook community to please help us get out of this mess. i also get similar trying to search divers issue when attached to a laptop.also mine is getting charged fully .so i guess both of us have a similar issue. brother please let me know if you find solution .thankyou
majorpay said:
I'm running W8 on all my PCs (doubt that matters?)
Tried 5.5 - no luck.
Switched to a 512mb SD Card, no luck.
Switched to an external card reader (crap one), no luck.
Switched to using external reader without sd-microsd adapter, no luck.
Running out of options here. I gave my old Nook to my dad, so maybe I can go pick it up for sanity checking... I may try these cards in that one just to verify this isn't a full on hardware issue. That would seem strange and highly suspect given this just so happened to occur when I was attempting to install PA. If I can nail it down to that, I suspect it's somehow my fault, and I will need to replace it. If I can't, then I will need to buy a new CM 7 card from Ebay for the guy.
How do you own a Nook for years with never a single problem you couldn't fix, and the one time you touch someone else's, it goes all to hell?
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dajmaa said:
brother what to tell you my nook color is also dead similarly since last 3 weeks.i also tried everything under the roof like bootable sd card.i also opened a topic in help section but did not get a single reply.i wrote to lepinllair also but even he does not know what to do . i miss my nook everyday. i appeal to nook community to please help us get out of this mess. i also get similar trying to search divers issue when attached to a laptop.also mine is getting charged fully .so i guess both of us have a similar issue. brother please let me know if you find solution .thankyou
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Well looks like their is Three of Us. I have been trying to fix my daughters Nook Color for about 2 weeks now. I have tried 6 different sd cards, my internal card reader and 2 external ones. I have used every version of cw recovery and twrp i can find. I have tried alot of guides. At least the ones that the downloads are still there for.
Heres to pulling your hair out.
SHOOTEMUP2.0 said:
Well looks like their is Three of Us. I have been trying to fix my daughters Nook Color for about 2 weeks now. I have tried 6 different sd cards, my internal card reader and 2 external ones. I have used every version of cw recovery and twrp i can find. I have tried alot of guides. At least the ones that the downloads are still there for.
Heres to pulling your hair out.
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Well, here's what I can say (which may be saying nothing):
Back in the day when I had a BSOD on my old device, I was able to fix it by using TheCube's methods. I don't think he hangs around these parts anymore, but I know it was a specific sized SD card you had to have, and a pretty old version of CWR you were flashing onto the card. I remember there was only ONE version of win32diskimager that would work and it was one of the V 0.1 variants (r?). Technology has changed, people have come and gone, and this may mean absolutely squat now. I just know I had this problem on my old one and I was able to fix it that way.
All the links to those items are gone, all the files have been long since lost, and the server I used to use to house those files has long since become a thing of the past.
Maybe B&N has set trip-wires for the modding community in their "newer" revisions? I cut the red wire, and the whole thing blew up.
majorpay said:
Well, here's what I can say (which may be saying nothing):
Back in the day when I had a BSOD on my old device, I was able to fix it by using TheCube's methods. I don't think he hangs around these parts anymore, but I know it was a specific sized SD card you had to have, and a pretty old version of CWR you were flashing onto the card. I remember there was only ONE version of win32diskimager that would work and it was one of the V 0.1 variants (r?). Technology has changed, people have come and gone, and this may mean absolutely squat now. I just know I had this problem on my old one and I was able to fix it that way.
All the links to those items are gone, all the files have been long since lost, and the server I used to use to house those files has long since become a thing of the past.
Maybe B&N has set trip-wires for the modding community in their "newer" revisions? I cut the red wire, and the whole thing blew up.
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Story of my life. always a Dollar Short and a Day Late. Well in this case a couple years late.
leapinlar said:
sometimes difficult, keep trying.
Edit, are you following advice in A9, like using external USB card reader?
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Leap... Have you tested these methods? If so, can you give me a lead as to which SD reader you used? I'm not above believing that the problem is the multiple readers I have (one is internal, the other is a Chinese plastic knock-off).
I was not able to get over to my parents house to test on their Nook yet.
majorpay said:
Leap... Have you tested these methods? If so, can you give me a lead as to which SD reader you used? I'm not above believing that the problem is the multiple readers I have (one is internal, the other is a Chinese plastic knock-off).
I was not able to get over to my parents house to test on their Nook yet.
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I use an external USB card reader made for micro SDs so I need no micro to SD adapter. A little red or grey one. I got it on eBay for $2. In fact, I bought several since they sometimes quit working. Then I use win32diskimager with no other windows open. Someone said they even had to update to the latest version (0.7, I think) from sourceforge. Any number of things could make it not boot. NCs can sometimes be very temperamental. But I have never had one I could not eventually get to boot to SD.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
I use an external USB card reader made for micro SDs so I need no micro to SD adapter. A little red or grey one. I got it on eBay for $2. In fact, I bought several since they sometimes quit working. Then I use win32diskimager with no other windows open. Someone said they even had to update to the latest version (0.7, I think) from sourceforge. Any number of things could make it not boot. NCs can sometimes be very temperamental. But I have never had one I could not eventually get to boot to SD.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Alright... Well here's where we are at this point:
Bought a Dynex 7 in 1 with specific port for MicroSD - burned v6 cwr bootable to 16GB SanDisc C4 SD using Laptop - Didn't work
Switched to main PC and burned 5.5 to 512mb Nokia C4 SD - didn't work.
Both were attempted with latest Win32DiskImager (.7) from SourceForge.
At this point, I'd lean towards a hardware failure, BUT... it's too coincidental that this occurred during a standard CWR install of a ROM. My understanding is that the Nook is supposed to ALWAYS check the SD slot prior to booting internally. Now whether there is a partition block that tells it to do this or not, I've never dug that far, but I'd have to say that this sure makes it look that way.
If that's the case, then the "unbrickable Nook" (which I once believed to be true) is a fairy tale. The fact that several others around here have met with the same fate, I'm almost inclined to believe it. I'm going to go on a hunt for the original files that fixed my first nook. If only I could remember what the heck I did with them.
Scratch that...
I found the files, but now I have an entirely different issue.
My copy of Win32DiskImager back then was very size specific, and although I have a copy of the 16gb_clockwork file I used back then, I can't burn it because Win32DI says the card isn't the right size..
Ugh... I'll keep you all posted.
majorpay said:
Alright... Well here's where we are at this point:
Bought a Dynex 7 in 1 with specific port for MicroSD - burned v6 cwr bootable to 16GB SanDisc C4 SD using Laptop - Didn't work
Switched to main PC and burned 5.5 to 512mb Nokia C4 SD - didn't work.
Both were attempted with latest Win32DiskImager (.7) from SourceForge.
At this point, I'd lean towards a hardware failure, BUT... it's too coincidental that this occurred during a standard CWR install of a ROM. My understanding is that the Nook is supposed to ALWAYS check the SD slot prior to booting internally. Now whether there is a partition block that tells it to do this or not, I've never dug that far, but I'd have to say that this sure makes it look that way.
If that's the case, then the "unbrickable Nook" (which I once believed to be true) is a fairy tale. The fact that several others around here have met with the same fate, I'm almost inclined to believe it. I'm going to go on a hunt for the original files that fixed my first nook. If only I could remember what the heck I did with them.
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It is possible that it is a hardware failure of the SD slot. Have you tried cleaning it? The booting to SD is built into the OMAP chip and is not effected by what you have in emmc. It automatically looks at the SD slot first to see if a bootable SD is there. But it looks for specific features of the SD found there to be sure it is bootable. If it is not bootable, it tries the emmc boot partition and if valid boot files are not there, it won't turn on.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Alright, I ended up flashing the old image I used on my last Nook with the same version of win32diskimager I used back then, and still no signs of life.
Unlike the previous issues I had on my first Nook, this one shows no signs of life. No backlit deep black that you can see in the dark, nothing. So I plugged it into my tower PC and held the power for 10 seconds. The install for the OMAP 36xx processor drivers went through the process, but when done, you could not find it in the device manager. So I held the power again for 10 seconds, it showed up for a second, then went away. I repeated this process several times, and same thing each time.
Just to make sure I wasn't leaping to assumptions, I unplugged it and plugged it back into the PC, and no response. Not until I held the power down for 10 seconds again.
So what can we conclude from this? Well, either it is normal for the Nook to show up for a split second on Windows, or the Nook is powering on, then down almost instantaneously. I'm inclined to believe the latter as ordinarily holding the power down for a few seconds wouldn't *reboot* the device, but instead, it would power it down, or power it up (if it was off). Also, unplugging and replugging it in to the PC should have activated the device driver if it was staying on (assuming that isn't a momentary thing on initial startup).
What's the missing piece of the puzzle? I don't know if it's the same for all the other users that have commented, but I don't have the original cable for this device, so I cannot fast charge. A dead Nook will power on, even if drained, when the fast charge cable is used (I believe?). This is something else I will have to try when I get my hands on my dad's Nook. Is it possible that a trickle charge doesn't work below a certain point?
This was kind of my thoughts back when this first occurred - that perhaps the Nook simply lost juice during the install.
Grasping at straws? Perhaps, but straws are all I'm seeing at this point.
majorpay said:
Alright, I ended up flashing the old image I used on my last Nook with the same version of win32diskimager I used back then, and still no signs of life.
Unlike the previous issues I had on my first Nook, this one shows no signs of life. No backlit deep black that you can see in the dark, nothing. So I plugged it into my tower PC and held the power for 10 seconds. The install for the OMAP 36xx processor drivers went through the process, but when done, you could not find it in the device manager. So I held the power again for 10 seconds, it showed up for a second, then went away. I repeated this process several times, and same thing each time.
Just to make sure I wasn't leaping to assumptions, I unplugged it and plugged it back into the PC, and no response. Not until I held the power down for 10 seconds again.
So what can we conclude from this? Well, either it is normal for the Nook to show up for a split second on Windows, or the Nook is powering on, then down almost instantaneously. I'm inclined to believe the latter as ordinarily holding the power down for a few seconds wouldn't *reboot* the device, but instead, it would power it down, or power it up (if it was off). Also, unplugging and replugging it in to the PC should have activated the device driver if it was staying on (assuming that isn't a momentary thing on initial startup).
What's the missing piece of the puzzle? I don't know if it's the same for all the other users that have commented, but I don't have the original cable for this device, so I cannot fast charge. A dead Nook will power on, even if drained, when the fast charge cable is used (I believe?). This is something else I will have to try when I get my hands on my dad's Nook. Is it possible that a trickle charge doesn't work below a certain point?
This was kind of my thoughts back when this first occurred - that perhaps the Nook simply lost juice during the install.
Grasping at straws? Perhaps, but straws are all I'm seeing at this point.
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I think what you are seeing is the device powering on with the screen off (like it normally does), looking for boot files in SD and emmc and when seeing none, immediately powering off. That is why the brief driver showing in windows. Ordinarily if it finds those boot files, it turns the screen on and continues the boot.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
I think what you are seeing is the device powering on with the screen off (like it normally does), looking for boot files in SD and emmc and when seeing none, immediately powering off. That is why the brief driver showing in windows. Ordinarily if it finds those boot files, it turns the screen on and continues the boot.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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Bit the bullet and grabbed my dads. It's confirmed, the SD card I recently burned works - CWR booted right up. Now for the stock cable test.
Stock cable confirms that the Nook will not power up at all - cable is green indicating full charge. This Nook is toast - so just coincidence that it was during flashing PA? Hard to believe, but haven't I ruled every other possibility out?
EDIT - moved the cable and it turned orange. Coworker confirmed that his Nook charger he was using wouldn't even charge a phone I loaned him. May be on to something here. I'll wait until the cable turns green.
I'm done...
I'm beat. Cable turned green again, and no dice. This Nook is headed for the scrap pile (unless I get a wild hair and tear it apart to re-solder some joints).
majorpay said:
Stock cable confirms that the Nook will not power up at all - cable is green indicating full charge. This Nook is toast - so just coincidence that it was during flashing PA? Hard to believe, but haven't I ruled every other possibility out?
EDIT - moved the cable and it turned orange. Coworker confirmed that his Nook charger he was using wouldn't even charge a phone I loaned him. May be on to something here. I'll wait until the cable turns green.
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I went back to your OP and re-read. It is very common for an installation to screw up and lock up, leaving the boot partition borked. But usually the user can boot to a bootable CWM and re-flash and it repairs it. Ordinarily I would say that the slot could have been messed up for a long time too, since a lot of users have CWM on emmc and would not know it until they needed a bootable card. But in your case the slot was working right up till after you put CWM on emmc. And your using internal memory to flash the zip from and leaving the SD in the slot is usually of no consequence. But it is remotely possible since you left the SD in and the software was running amouk, that it did something to the SD and the slot, like overcurrents or some such nonsense. I still think the not booting from SD is a slot hardware issue since your card boots on other devices and the booting code is in chip firmware.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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hello!
my nook likes to tap all by itself, sometimes in different places but generally in the center of the screen. i just bought it on onesaleaday.com a few days ago and had plans to upgrade to the latest cm7 nightly. my questions are:
1. is the tapping problem one that will go away when i boot my nook from an external microsd, running cm7?
2. since im under warranty for a year, is there are reason i should consider fixing the problem and/or returning my nook prior to putting cm7 on it?
3. if i do run cm7 from an external microsd card, will my nook always be stock and unmodified when i remove the card, thereby allowing me to make warranty claims on hardware if need be?
and on a related note, i bought a microsdhc card prior to hearing about how sandisk is the best. i bought this one: Transcend 32 GB Class 4 microSDHC . i may be able to return it for a sandisk.
4. does anyone have specific experience running this card or know as to its functioning on the nook?
5. if i have problems running cm7 on this card, is it easy to use the internal card on the nook for cm7, and then use the external one for my music collection? obviously this would void my warranty.
thank you!
sorry, i know some of these could be answerable by searching in depth, but i couldnt find anything particular to the tapping problem i have.
Do you have sweaty hands?
If the screen gets at all moist, it will get false touches. If that occurs, switch the screen off then on again, it should reset it.
If/when you root it, and the issue is still there, run nook recalibrator to recalibrate the display. Worked for me
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whatismouse said:
hello!
my nook likes to tap all by itself, sometimes in different places but generally in the center of the screen. i just bought it on onesaleaday.com a few days ago and had plans to upgrade to the latest cm7 nightly. my questions are:
1. is the tapping problem one that will go away when i boot my nook from an external microsd, running cm7?
2. since im under warranty for a year, is there are reason i should consider fixing the problem and/or returning my nook prior to putting cm7 on it?
3. if i do run cm7 from an external microsd card, will my nook always be stock and unmodified when i remove the card, thereby allowing me to make warranty claims on hardware if need be?
and on a related note, i bought a microsdhc card prior to hearing about how sandisk is the best. i bought this one: Transcend 32 GB Class 4 microSDHC . i may be able to return it for a sandisk.
4. does anyone have specific experience running this card or know as to its functioning on the nook?
5. if i have problems running cm7 on this card, is it easy to use the internal card on the nook for cm7, and then use the external one for my music collection? obviously this would void my warranty.
thank you!
sorry, i know some of these could be answerable by searching in depth, but i couldnt find anything particular to the tapping problem i have.
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I've heard that the phantom taps have been related to when the NC is plugged in. I know I experienced a few when I first got mine, but I haven't in a long time.
Does this only happen when you have the NC plugged in. Also, have you given the screen a good clean to make sure all dirt, grim, oil, etc are off of it (I know at least once that was my problem).
There is no reason not to try CM7 on it before claiming any warranty. As far as where you want to run it from, that is entirely up to you and what you feel comfortable with. Running it off eMMC is not a big deal since the NC boots off SD card first you can always revert back to stock B&N OS on it.
There are a lot of tutorials on how the roms and such for the device, just dig around.
Phantom taps seem to only happen on my NC when it is plugged into the wall charger, but doesn't seem to happen at all while hooked up to the computer. Random zoom in and out and highlighting of words from a single touch. Sometimes my finger can be 2" away from the screen and it sets off the touch sensor.
Thanks everyone. I think it must have been a dirty screen because i havent had any problems today after cleaning. The browser on froyo is still terrible, it just wont respond to my scrolls or taps sometimes but if i turn off the screen and back on it always works again. All of the tapping problems i was having was with the nook unplugged.
My Nook Color is rooted. It has CM7 on it. Recently, by that I mean 5 minutes ago, I was trying to download a theme and it told me that I was required to have a Micro SD Card inserted. So I went and found my the card I used to root my Nook and inserted it into my Nook. It no longer clicks in, justs shoots back out. One time it didnt even pop back out, I had to fish it out. It almost as if the spring mechanism is broken. I have read that others are having similar issues. So, I called Barnes & Noble's Tech Support. They told me that I need to take my Nook to the nearest Barnes & Noble and see if they can get it out and B&N will deal with it from there. Heres where my issue comes in. I have tried numerous times doing the 8 failed boots thing. None of them worked. Everything else I have seen about "Unrooting" say that I have to use CWR. I CANT! I have no SD Card slot. I need a way of restoring my NC back to the stock firmware before I take it to Barnes & Noble and they tell me "You've Rooted It. You Voided Your Warrenty" Thanks for taking the time to read this long post and I look forward to someone being able to answer me.
Well, you generally want to have a blank card in it when you run CM7. I am assuming that you reformatted this card so that it is now blank & not bootable?
In any event, I would very carefully keep trying to pop out the card. The spring is not usually the issue, it is the catch that fails.
As to CWR, you should be able to choose to boot into recovery when you go to power down. CWR is already on there (or likely is).
Are you sure you insert the uSD card properly?
It seems to be a hardware, like you mentioned, spring mechanism, issue.
Hello Folks!
I guess my question will make me sound dumber than a box of rocks, but here goes. A bit of history before I make myself an idiot. I've only been fooling with computers and these new tech. machines for about a year and a half now and for the most part been having an enjoyable time. I'm 70 years old and I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box anymore, time has dulled my tip a bit. I've been given a Nook Tablet as a Christmas gift by 2 of my grandsons, I intend to change the Android on it to the Ice Cream version but before I do I want to practice on something else first. So I bought a used Nook Color from a lady at church for $50 and I want to try and make a SD card to run the new Android from. The reason I want to use SD card is that there are over 200 books on the Nook and I would like to eventually read a lot of them. I guess I'm just greedy.
I've spent most of the weekend reading this forum information, but unfortunately the more I read the more confused I get. There is a tremendous amount of information to try and digest here and sometimes some of it seems to contradict itself. What are the different types of modified Androids that can be used? Can the Andriod that is installed on the SD card be modified so that more applications can be stored on it? How difficult is it to install the software that allows you to speed up the Nooks processor, that is, can a raw noob do it?
I'm sorry if I've yacked too much. I'm still learning how to correctly ask the questions.
Hey, knock off the old man stuff. I am 67 and my crayon tip is still sharp (although there are some here that would disagree with that, LOL). This nook color stuff is not that hard. I would recommend putting cm7 on sd first to get your feet wet. Then if you feel like experimenting move on to cm9. You can get the rom at cyanogenmod.com (for the encore - Nook Color). I recommend 7.2 RC3. It comes already rooted and overclocked so you can speed it up. And it has plenty of room for apps if you put it on a 4Gb card or larger. If you can afford it, I recommend 16GB (and Sandisk, class 4). Follow this guide to set it up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12240928
But look at my tips thread linked in my signature to get an updated image to use instead of the one in the thread above. Also read all of section B in my tips, as it all applies to the sd installation. If you need more help, just come back here.
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Hello Folks!
I guess my question will make me sound dumber than a box of rocks, but here goes. A bit of history before I make myself an idiot. I've only been fooling with computers and these new tech. machines for about a year and a half now and for the most part been having an enjoyable time. I'm 70 years old and I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box anymore, time has dulled my tip a bit. I've been given a Nook Tablet as a Christmas gift by 2 of my grandsons, I intend to change the Android on it to the Ice Cream version but before I do I want to practice on something else first. So I bought a used Nook Color from a lady at church for $50 and I want to try and make a SD card to run the new Android from. The reason I want to use SD card is that there are over 200 books on the Nook and I would like to eventually read a lot of them. I guess I'm just greedy.
I've spent most of the weekend reading this forum information, but unfortunately the more I read the more confused I get. There is a tremendous amount of information to try and digest here and sometimes some of it seems to contradict itself. What are the different types of modified Androids that can be used? Can the Andriod that is installed on the SD card be modified so that more applications can be stored on it? How difficult is it to install the software that allows you to speed up the Nooks processor, that is, can a raw noob do it?
I'm sorry if I've yacked too much. I'm still learning how to correctly ask the questions.
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And in keeping with the older guy thread concept (66), you're talking about two different devices, the Nook Tablet (NT) and the Nook Color (NC). The newer NT is much more difficult to deal with than the older NC. It's not as straightforward to install anything on the NT as it is for the NC. Also try to differentiate between the device hardware and the operating system software. The software will get the most out of a particular devices' hardware. The NC's processor is single core; the NT is dual core. The Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) Android operating system applications are pretty much the same between the two devices, but the operating system interface between the applications and the hardware (the kernel) is different, so overclocking, over/undervolting, etc. will be different, too.
Just keep reading; that's how to sharpen the tip. It's never permanently dull until everything else is.
shumash said:
And in keeping with the older guy thread concept (66), you're talking about two different devices, the Nook Tablet (NT) and the Nook Color (NC). The newer NT is much more difficult to deal with than the older NC. It's not as straightforward to install anything on the NT as it is for the NC. Also try to differentiate between the device hardware and the operating system software. The software will get the most out of a particular devices' hardware. The NC's processor is single core; the NT is dual core. The Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) Android operating system applications are pretty much the same between the two devices, but the operating system interface between the applications and the hardware (the kernel) is different, so overclocking, over/undervolting, etc. will be different, too.
Just keep reading; that's how to sharpen the tip. It's never permanently dull until everything else is.
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You're right of course. I was talking about how to update his NC. I also have an NT and it is much more difficult to deal with on modding.
Actually, after playing with the rooted 1.4.2 stock NT, I see no reason to move to CM yet on it (BT is the only thing missing on stock), even though I have CM7/CM9 on dual boot SD. After CM gets more stable on the NT, maybe.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
Old age
Gentlemen,
Thanks for the replies. I don't feel old most of the time, just when I have some of the youngsters whizzing past me. Computers, smart cell phones, and Nooks are fairly new to me, never touched one until after my wife passed a year and a half ago. Now I need one to keep in touch with my family (4 kids, 12 grandkids(and 3 more on the way), and 4 greatgrand kids (and 2 more coming).
Due to a accident last fall the old brain sometimes has a bit of a hard time comprehending things now and then, so I get a bit frustrated and I may ask questions that seem to be a repeat. Hope you all can forgive that.
Thanks!
The tablet my grandsons gave me is a Lenovo A1 not a Nook tablet. It is running Android 2.3 and I want to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when I'm confident enough in my abilities.
Well done, gentlemen.
These two will have you building your own Android OS before you're done, GrampaBear.
GrampaBear said:
The tablet my grandsons gave me is a Lenovo A1 not a Nook tablet. It is running Android 2.3 and I want to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when I'm confident enough in my abilities.
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You might want to check out these for information on the Lenovo Ideapad A1:
http://androidforums.com/lenovo-ideapad-a1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355319
There's very little activity for this device on xdadevelopers, and what we know is primarily for the Nook Color.
Well, I started the process of making an SD card with Android on it. I am now thoroughly convinced I am near as dumb as a box of rocks. I download the agnostic sd card image and the win32imager. I didn't realise I needed to uncompress the files ( this was a first for me, never had to do it before ). I finally figured out I needed WinZip and I downloaded the trial version and ran the program. I took a old Kingston 4 GB class4 micro sd card (I have ordered a Sandisk from newegg but didn't want to wait to try) and formatted it to fat32 with a sd formatting program. I then ran Winimage (with my fingers crossed for I was not sure of what I was doing) and I think I have the image on the sd card, at least when I look at the card it windows it says boot on the sd icon. I went to the site where the C7 images are kept, but could not get one to download ( this was around 11 pm last night ). One problem I have is that I have no idea what I'm looking for when I pick a file. Could you tell me which one I should be using? It says I should write the image to the card, put the card in the nook and boot it. OK! I'll give that a shot, but how exactly do I get the Nook to boot off the sd card and how exactly does the Nook know what to do with the program? Will this mess up the Nook and the programs on it?
I knew that this would be a project, but after 12 hours of reading and trying I've become a bit frustrated. Maybe someone would take on a project and write a forum called The Big Dummy's Guide to Installing CM7 to a SD card and do a step by step instruction that tells us dummys what we should be seeing as we do this.
Funny you should ask about the dummies guide to SD installs. Taosaur just gave me a link to his here:
http://taosaur.blogspot.com/2011/09/running-cyanogenmod-7-from-sd-nook.html
He gives links for the CM7 files. Pick the CM 7.2 RC3.
Once you get the SD set up right and the CM zip on it, just put in your nook and boot. Everything is automatic and does not harm your stock install at all.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
Thanks for answering my post. Looks like I'll be starting all over with the process again later this evening. You must have been doing this work for quite a while with the knowledge you have.
Well, for now I'm taking my 6 1/2 year old great-granddaughter, a couple of fishin poles, a can of worms, and we're walking down to the pond to catch us some bluegills for dinner. Need to have a little grandpa fun and let the ole brain relax for a bit.
GrampaBear said:
Well, I started the process of making an SD card with Android on it. I am now thoroughly convinced I am near as dumb as a box of rocks. I download the agnostic sd card image and the win32imager. I didn't realise I needed to uncompress the files ( this was a first for me, never had to do it before ). I finally figured out I needed WinZip and I downloaded the trial version and ran the program. I took a old Kingston 4 GB class4 micro sd card (I have ordered a Sandisk from newegg but didn't want to wait to try) and formatted it to fat32 with a sd formatting program. I then ran Winimage (with my fingers crossed for I was not sure of what I was doing) and I think I have the image on the sd card, at least when I look at the card it windows it says boot on the sd icon. I went to the site where the C7 images are kept, but could not get one to download ( this was around 11 pm last night ). One problem I have is that I have no idea what I'm looking for when I pick a file. Could you tell me which one I should be using? It says I should write the image to the card, put the card in the nook and boot it. OK! I'll give that a shot, but how exactly do I get the Nook to boot off the sd card and how exactly does the Nook know what to do with the program? Will this mess up the Nook and the programs on it?
I knew that this would be a project, but after 12 hours of reading and trying I've become a bit frustrated. Maybe someone would take on a project and write a forum called The Big Dummy's Guide to Installing CM7 to a SD card and do a step by step instruction that tells us dummys what we should be seeing as we do this.
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Leapinlar's post will answer your questions, but here's a few things to watch for that may concern you:
1. It takes a while for the initial install, and you may see a black screen without any indication of activity. Don't panic! If it lasts more than 20 minutes or so, turn the Nook off, pull the sdcard out, and start again. Don't be afraid to redo everything.
2. The first time it successfully boots into Android, you will see the introductory splash screen for what seems an inordinately long time. It's setting up files and processes so just let it run. Once again, if it takes more that 20 minutes or so, there's most likely some problem.
2. The Kingston card may be sloooow, so my comment above is even more possible. Because the Kingston card is so slow, when you finally boot into Android on it, you may think that the system is too slow or error-prone to run on an sdcard. You may get popups during boot up, when you're running programs, or when its just sitting there, saying something to the effect that so and so program has a problem or had a fault or whatever, and asking you to wait or "force close" (FC). This is probably caused by the card. Your Sandisk card will generally not have those problems (I've been running for over a year on an 8gb Sandisk card with no problems and very snappy response).
Thank you
Shumash,
Thank you for the information. I tried my first try at making a card tonight, it appears to be a no go. Left the Nook alone for an hour and 15 minutes with nothing apparently happening. I will reformat the card and try again tomorrow. I want to thank all who have written to help me along. I know what a pain in the kester having to work with absolute beginners can be.
GrampaBear said:
Shumash,
Thank you for the information. I tried my first try at making a card tonight, it appears to be a no go. Left the Nook alone for an hour and 15 minutes with nothing apparently happening. I will reformat the card and try again tomorrow. I want to thank all who have written to help me along. I know what a pain in the kester having to work with absolute beginners can be.
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I see you used winimage to burn. Do not use 'write disk' to burn it. Use 'Restore Virtual Disk Image to physical drive' in the same menu. That's why I recommended win32diskimager. It is simpler to use for noobs.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
Shumash,
I did use win32diskimager but I apparently did something wrongin the process. I will try again tomorrow it's late and I'm a bit tired.One thing that I will be doing also is trying to learn as much about Android as I can, though it may need to be in a bit simplified format. If anyone can suggest available information this old geezer will appreciate any guides to it.
I finally did it!
It took me 6 trys and I'm not sure what I did right this time, but I finally had success. The first 5 trys all I would get on the screen were 3 lines going across the screen about 40% of the way up and nothing else. The last time it booted and took a bit of time probably 12 - 15 minutes working and then shut itself down. I was thinking it was another failure and held the power button down for a few seconds to restart and Bingo! up came the Android window. I messed around a bit and set up the wireless and pulled up the internet. I LIKE IT!!
It is a bit slow and I'm assuming the Sandisk card will fix that when it finally arrives. It didn't freeze up or anything just ran a bit slow. The Lenovo A1 that my grandsons gave me is always locking up.
The only other thing that I have a worry about is the micro sd card reader in the Nook. I did have a pretty hard time getting the card in and out of the reader slot. I've labored with my hands all of my life and I have developed rather thick and calloused fingers and a bit of arthritis doesn't help either. I can not physically fit the tip of my finger into the little open loop area for the SD card reader. I had to use a tweezer from my fly tying kit to insert and remove the card from the Nook. After I get this type of card down pat I'd like to see if there is a way to leave the card in all of the time and be able to boot from the card or the nook reader software.
THANKS AGAIN! I wouldn't have succeeded without all of you gentlemens help.
While I was finishing typing this message my 13 year old grandson has been fooling around with the Android on the Nook. He said to tell you, that you all are AWESOME!
GrampaBear said:
Shumash,
I did use win32diskimager but I apparently did something wrongin the process. I will try again tomorrow it's late and I'm a bit tired.One thing that I will be doing also is trying to learn as much about Android as I can, though it may need to be in a bit simplified format. If anyone can suggest available information this old geezer will appreciate any guides to it.
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If you're using windiskimager, getting everything straight can be a bit confusing. Make sure that you're doing the following four steps on your PC, not the Nook!
1. To the right of the box that says "Image File", there is a blue folder picture. Click on it and select the image file. It should be something like "generic-sdcard.img". It's easiest if the image file is in the same directory/folder as the win32diskimager software.
2. To the right of the blue folder looking picture is the selection box for the location where this image will be written. It says "Device" right above it. If it is the wrong drive letter, click on the arrow at the right of the box. Select the letter of the sdcard. Use a file manager or windows explorer to find out which drive letter the sdcard is. Make absolutely sure you know which drive it is!
3. After you have properly selected the image file and the correct drive letter, click "write" and wait for it to complete.
4. After the image has been written, you will have to put the CM7 (Gingerbread) or CM9 (ICS) flashable zip on the sdcard in its root directory (called "/boot" in a file manager or windows explorer). Copy the one you want onto the sdcard.
Once the above is done, remove the sdcard from the PC and put it in your Nook. Boot the Nook up, and it will do everything else automatically.
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The only other thing that I have a worry about is the micro sd card reader in the Nook. I did have a pretty hard time getting the card in and out of the reader slot. I've labored with my hands all of my life and I have developed rather thick and calloused fingers and a bit of arthritis doesn't help either. I can not physically fit the tip of my finger into the little open loop area for the SD card reader. I had to use a tweezer from my fly tying kit to insert and remove the card from the Nook. After I get this type of card down pat I'd like to see if there is a way to leave the card in all of the time and be able to boot from the card or the nook reader software.
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It's funny you should mention old hands and micro chips. I have always had a hard time with the chip and that darned slot. Yesterday I was changing the chip and it popped out. I was sitting in my big recliner, you know the kind all old folks have, LOL. Anyway, the chip went down the crack in the chair. I could not find it. I finally turned the chair on it's side and shook it. It came tumbling out. LOL.
So you will be glad to hear there is a way to set up your stock so that you can use the same SDcard. The only complication is your stock must be rooted first. But that is simple to do. But maybe you want wait on that till you are more confident. Once it is rooted you can look at my tips thread, item B3, and I tell you how to set up stock to use the same SD so you don't have to keep changing cards. There is another method of setting it up without rooting first, but it is more complex to do. If you want me to reference that thread, let me know.
Leapinlar,
I know what you mean about the old folks and recliner thing. I have a big old style chair with a foot stool that my wife bought me at a garage sale 38 years ago. It was well over 20 years old when she bought it. She re-upholstered it and made it into the most comfortable chair for a large man ever. I'm kinda like Archie Bunker with that chair, it's my chair and you don't sit in it unless I offer it to you.
I appreciate all the help you all have given me, this is all new to me and sometimes I get to feeling a bit flumoxed. I'm having a bit of a problem getting the Android gapps program to work at the moment. Think I may be copying it to the wrong spot, but Windows only seems to show me one spot to copy to. I'll get it figured out it'll just take time. It may be a bit before I feel brave enough to root the Nook.
Still waiting for the Sandisk card to arrive. The Kingston card seems to work but is really slow at times.
You're copying it right. As you turn the nook on with the card in the slot, hold down the n key and choose to boot into the SD recovery partition.
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Hi Everyone,
My nook color is dead - black screen, no matter what I do. I've had it for a couple of years and I rooted it when I first got it. It worked ok, although it seemed like the battery was going dead way faster than it should have. I've tried every solution I could find that looked like it would address my problem, but my device hasn't responded at all. I have wondered if maybe it's the battery, but it doesn't turn on even if I have it plugged in. The little light on the cord will go green when I plug it in.
Any suggestions on what else I can try? I'm pretty close to giving up now. But I really like this device.
Thanks,
Maureen
Dead Nook Color
maurbrown said:
Hi Everyone,
My nook color is dead - black screen, no matter what I do. I've had it for a couple of years and I rooted it when I first got it. It worked ok, although it seemed like the battery was going dead way faster than it should have. I've tried every solution I could find that looked like it would address my problem, but my device hasn't responded at all. I have wondered if maybe it's the battery, but it doesn't turn on even if I have it plugged in. The little light on the cord will go green when I plug it in.
Any suggestions on what else I can try? I'm pretty close to giving up now. But I really like this device.
Thanks,
Maureen
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Maureen,
I had the same problem and resolved it easily.
1. View the video on how to replace the battery at NewPower99. The video is excellent and describes how to take the Nook apart and replace the battery.
2. Remove the back of the Nook after removing the two screws under the microSD cover. You will need a Torx 5 screwdriver to do this. The screwdriver isn't a very common one, but can be purchased from Sears. And it is not expensive.
3. After removing the back cover, do not remove the ten screws or complete the remainder of the disassembly.
4. The battery connector is the biggest connector on the left side of the Nook (Nook is face down andmicroSD card slot on the right hand side.) It has several red and black wire in the wire harness.
5. The main battery connector is a push on connector, so using a small, flat plastic anything, carefully pry the connector up. The connector has a "rubber bumper" glued to the top of it. Leave the bumper on the connector.
6. After the connector is lifted, leave the battery disconnected for around a half-hour or so.
7. Reattach the power connector by gently placing it over the connector and pushing down.
8. Before reattaching the back, power on the Nook to ensure it will reboot. If it does reboot, push the power button again for a half second or so to get the Nook into the sleep mode. DO NOT POWER OFF. I've done this twice now and learned to only put the Nook to sleep.
9. Replace the Nook rear cover. Don't forget to reinstall the two screws under the microSD cover.
10. Keep the Nook charged if possible. It doesn't have to remain on the charger all the time, but keep enough charge on it so it doesn't turn off.
You will find it is actually VERY easy to accomplish this.
I hope this works for you; it did for me.
maurbrown said:
Hi Everyone,
My nook color is dead - black screen, no matter what I do. I've had it for a couple of years and I rooted it when I first got it. It worked ok, although it seemed like the battery was going dead way faster than it should have. I've tried every solution I could find that looked like it would address my problem, but my device hasn't responded at all. I have wondered if maybe it's the battery, but it doesn't turn on even if I have it plugged in. The little light on the cord will go green when I plug it in.
Any suggestions on what else I can try? I'm pretty close to giving up now. But I really like this device.
Thanks,
Maureen
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Before you change the battery, see if a bootable SD will boot. You said you tried every solution, but did not mention that. The NC will not turn on unless it finds valid boot files either in internal boot or the SD boot.
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ohunter said:
Maureen,
I had the same problem and resolved it easily.
1. View the video on how to replace the battery at NewPower99. The video is excellent and describes how to take the Nook apart and replace the battery.
2. Remove the back of the Nook after removing the two screws under the microSD cover. You will need a Torx 5 screwdriver to do this. The screwdriver isn't a very common one, but can be purchased from Sears. And it is not expensive.
3. After removing the back cover, do not remove the ten screws or complete the remainder of the disassembly.
4. The battery connector is the biggest connector on the left side of the Nook (Nook is face down andmicroSD card slot on the right hand side.) It has several red and black wire in the wire harness.
5. The main battery connector is a push on connector, so using a small, flat plastic anything, carefully pry the connector up. The connector has a "rubber bumper" glued to the top of it. Leave the bumper on the connector.
6. After the connector is lifted, leave the battery disconnected for around a half-hour or so.
7. Reattach the power connector by gently placing it over the connector and pushing down.
8. Before reattaching the back, power on the Nook to ensure it will reboot. If it does reboot, push the power button again for a half second or so to get the Nook into the sleep mode. DO NOT POWER OFF. I've done this twice now and learned to only put the Nook to sleep.
9. Replace the Nook rear cover. Don't forget to reinstall the two screws under the microSD cover.
10. Keep the Nook charged if possible. It doesn't have to remain on the charger all the time, but keep enough charge on it so it doesn't turn off.
You will find it is actually VERY easy to accomplish this.
I hope this works for you; it did for me.
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Thank you!! I will try to boot from sd once more and then will try this and let you know how it goes.
leapinlar said:
Before you change the battery, see if a bootable SD will boot. You said you tried every solution, but did not mention that. The NC will not turn on unless it finds valid boot files either in internal boot or the SD boot.
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Hi! I actually followed some of your links and tried them. I want to try one last time - which of your links should I use? Maybe I did the wrong thing the other times. Thanks a lot.
maurbrown said:
Hi! I actually followed some of your links and tried them. I want to try one last time - which of your links should I use? Maybe I did the wrong thing the other times. Thanks a lot.
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For making the bootable SD go to my NC Tips thread and see item A9.
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leapinlar said:
For making the bootable SD go to my NC Tips thread and see item A9.
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Ok! I'm excited to give it a shot. Another question: if it doesn't work, should I try it with a different micro sd just in case it's not formatted properly or the image somehow didn't get on there exactly right? Thanks again.
maurbrown said:
Ok! I'm excited to give it a shot. Another question: if it doesn't work, should I try it with a different micro sd just in case it's not formatted properly or the image somehow didn't get on there exactly right? Thanks again.
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Yes.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Yes.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Well, I tried the bootable SD and still no response, so then I changed the battery. Nothing. So I think I'm pretty much out of luck at this point. If you can think of anything else to try, please let me know.
Thanks for all the help,
Maureen
maurbrown said:
Hi Everyone,
My nook color is dead - black screen, no matter what I do. I've had it for a couple of years and I rooted it when I first got it. It worked ok, although it seemed like the battery was going dead way faster than it should have. I've tried every solution I could find that looked like it would address my problem, but my device hasn't responded at all. I have wondered if maybe it's the battery, but it doesn't turn on even if I have it plugged in. The little light on the cord will go green when I plug it in.
Any suggestions on what else I can try? I'm pretty close to giving up now. But I really like this device.
Thanks,
Maureen
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Quite upset, I had just set mine to run CM 10.1 and it was running great. And now I can't get it to start. I think maybe I caused it by tampering with the SD card on the PC and then putting it back in the NC. But even after putting it back as it was (partition inactive so it should boot from emmc as it had done just previous) I get no flash of light when holding in the power button.
Here's the gritty details of what happened with the SD card. I'd made eyeballer's 1gb boot card and enlarged the partition in mini tools to the full 8 gb, and backed up, flashed and updated a few times to emmc. The installation treats the SD card as "/sdcard", so in order to be able to cold boot emmc, I needed the SD card partition to be inactive. Minitools seems to apply the change (no error), but it was failing (partition was still active when retested). Diskpart also failed to reset it. So I backed up the SD card on the PC, reformatted it with SDformatter, and restored the content. As it happened, my PC restore process made it active again. But this time the partition was aligned at 1024, and Diskpart was able to mark it inactive. Used it in the Nookcolor for hours, it was working great. I was able to boot from emmc for both system and recovery. The SD card was serving as "/sdcard". Then I thought I'd like to set up another Nookcolor we have in the family. So I shut mine down, pulled the SD card, and went back to Diskpart and marked it Active. Put it back in my Nook and it failed to light up or start. Made it Inactive again and it still won't light up or start.
It had a nearly full charge before I messed with it. When I plug it in, the charger light is amber.
Sent from my HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc
Did you check the cord? Those nookie cords fail all the time u know, not very well made. You should get a new one online.
You use those stock nookie cables, not the custom ones or your nookie will not charge good. =)
Sherip said:
Quite upset, I had just set mine to run CM 10.1 and it was running great. And now I can't get it to start. I think maybe I caused it by tampering with the SD card on the PC and then putting it back in the NC. But even after putting it back as it was (partition inactive so it should boot from emmc as it had done just previous) I get no flash of light when holding in the power button.
Here's the gritty details of what happened with the SD card. I'd made eyeballer's 1gb boot card and enlarged the partition in mini tools to the full 8 gb, and backed up, flashed and updated a few times to emmc. The installation treats the SD card as "/sdcard", so in order to be able to cold boot emmc, I needed the SD card partition to be inactive. Minitools seems to apply the change (no error), but it was failing (partition was still active when retested). Diskpart also failed to reset it. So I backed up the SD card on the PC, reformatted it with SDformatter, and restored the content. As it happened, my PC restore process made it active again. But this time the partition was aligned at 1024, and Diskpart was able to mark it inactive. Used it in the Nookcolor for hours, it was working great. I was able to boot from emmc for both system and recovery. The SD card was serving as "/sdcard". Then I thought I'd like to set up another Nookcolor we have in the family. So I shut mine down, pulled the SD card, and went back to Diskpart and marked it Active. Put it back in my Nook and it failed to light up or start. Made it Inactive again and it still won't light up or start.
It had a nearly full charge before I messed with it. When I plug it in, the charger light is amber.
Sent from my HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc
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The Nook Color is different that the Nook HD/HD+. It is much more temperamental about how the SD is formatted. It must be physically set up just right where the HD/HD+ is more liberal. See my NC Tips thread linked in my signature and look at item A9. You should not be messing with the partition with partition management software, particularly the active/inactive and alignment.
Can you still boot without the SD installed?
I have more information for you but need to know that answer first.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
I sent a long reply earlier and it looks like it didn't post
With no card I got low battery symbol. Plugged it in. Screen stayed black, not used to that, on CM7 it would light up on its own when booted. Pressed the n button, and got the CM 10 lock screen. It was up to 25% then, now its at 53%. Not supposed to run the eyeballer setup without an SD card, so I haven't tried interacting with it.
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Sherip said:
Not supposed to run the eyeballer setup without an SD card, so I haven't tried interacting with it.
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Why not? Some apps expect an SD to run properly, but there is nothing wrong with running CM10.1 without one.
If your emmc installation runs fine, your problems are because you were messing with that SD. With the NC it is best to make a small SD for your CWM card and put it away and save it for future use. Then use a different SD for use with CM10.1.
With the NC, if you have a bootable SD inserted without valid boot files on it, it turns on, but does not turn the screen on so to you it looks like it is off.
Your solution to your problem is do what I said above, have two SDs. And don't mess with them. You can get away with messing with the SD on a HD/HD+, but not the NC.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
Why not? Some apps expect an SD to run properly, but there is nothing wrong with running CM10.1 without one.
If your emmc installation runs fine, your problems are because you were messing with that SD. With the NC it is best to make a small SD for your CWM card and put it away and save it for future use. Then use a different SD for use with CM10.1.
With the NC, if you have a bootable SD inserted without valid boot files on it, it turns on, but does not turn the screen on so to you it looks like it is off.
Your solution to your problem is do what I said above, have two SDs. And don't mess with them. You can get away with messing with the SD on a HD/HD+, but not the NC.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Yes I think working with the HD series nooks made me overly confident yesterday lol
In my missing post I mentioned that it wouldn't boot from my CM7 SD card or a newly burned eyeballer 1gb image yesterday. Before the trouble I had seen my CM7 card boot after CM10.1 was on emmc. Now that the NC is working I'm nervous to shut it down at all or try booting from any SD.
Went out and when I came back the charger was green but the charge percentage said 90%. I switched to a different NC charger. Light stayed green and suddenly it switched from 90% to "charged". On my PC using a card reader, I sdformatted my SD card and did a straight copy paste of the previous folders, leaving off the root files associated with booting, ram disk and such and inserted it in the NC. Disconnected from power. Claimed to be at 100%.
Current readout is 93% and battery time is 28 min 30 sec.
I suppose its possible my battery is going bad. It was chronically plagued with "sleep of death" on CM 7.
I believe I'm running the CM 10.1 nightly of 7/25.
Edit: there are posts that claim you MUST have an SD card inserted to run the eyeballer system. If that's not true I might still need one because I had restored some apps with Titanium and some content had been written there. I think I used apptosd on some of them on sd-based-CM7 in an effort to use my space more efficiently.
Sent from my Nook Color Running CM 10.1 from emmc
Sherip said:
In my missing post I mentioned that it wouldn't boot from my CM7 SD card or a newly burned eyeballer 1gb image yesterday. Before the trouble I had seen my CM7 card boot after CM10.1 was on emmc. Now that the NC is working I'm nervous to shut it down at all or try booting from any SD.
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My NC is completely back to normal, I've successfully booted using cards that didn't work while I was having trouble. Not sure if it was fixed because I pulled the card to boot emmc as suggested or because the battery got depleted and it went into another state. Either way I'm happy. For now I don't need a torx screwdriver or new battery.
Leapinlar, my eyeballer emmc setup uses an old version of cmw. Its 3.2.0.1. AFAICT it works fine but in other threads I've seen you recommend updated versions. Do you know what changed or improved, and whether my existing backups for stock and CM would be compatible?
Sent from my Nook Color Running CM 10.1 from emmc
Sherip said:
Leapinlar, my eyeballer emmc setup uses an old version of cmw. Its 3.2.0.1. AFAICT it works fine but in other threads I've seen you recommend updated versions. Do you know what changed or improved, and whether my existing backups for stock and CM would be compatible?
Sent from my Nook Color Running CM 10.1 from emmc
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The 3.2.0.1 is fine. The only real advantage the newer versions have is they allow backup and restore to internal memory. v5.5.0.4 makes and reads compatible backups with 3.2.0.1 if you choose to (3.2.0.1 is img only, 5.5.0.4 is img or tar). v6.0.1.2 makes a new backup format that is not compatible with 3.2.0.1 (tar or blobs). Therefore, I usually recommend 5.5.0.4 so you get internal backups and can read 3.2.0.1 backups.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Well, first off let me say I've been researching this issue for about 6 hours, and I've read several hundred posts across dozens upon dozens of threads so, I'll just say I've got a dead NC and I'm wondering if it's truly dead considering how much I keep seeing "it's practically unbrickable..." (which I've heard before on other devices).
Was working fine with 1.4.3 when I got it yesterday (boy that firmware was damned slow, good lord), then I worked out how to get CM7.2 on it and that worked fine for a bit, then I figured I'd give CM10.2 a shot and that worked fine (albeit slow which is seemingly just how the NC is), then even the latest snapshot M7 build of CM11 and even that worked somewhat (constant FC's of gapps, etc, known problems I suppose - yes I did use CWM 6.0.4.8 to install it).
So I did some more research yesterday and found out about MiRaGe CM7.2 being hailed as the best performing ROM for the NC and figured ok this could be just the ticket.
To get CM11 installed I used a Sandisk Class 4 8GB card, the 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer image, the snapshot M7 build of CM11, the most current gapps for KitKat (20140606) and then CWM 6.0.4.8, data/factory reset, reboot, worked fine until I decided to get MiRaGe CM7.2 on it.
To install MiRaGe CM7.2, I used the same SD card (the Sandisk), only placed the MiRaGe zip and the gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip file on the card. Booted the NC to the recovery (CWM 6.0.4.8) and then inserted the SD card, chose to install zip from SD card, browsed for the MiRaGe zip and then started the install - it got to roughly 80% or so and then just hung there for several minutes, then the NC powered itself off and back on again, getting to the Cyanoboot screen, then a flash, then nothing but the display and backlight were obviously on.
Ok, not good, so then I held the power button till it shut off, ejected the card, started it up again, went into CWM 6.0.4.8 again (it was installed to the eMMC), put the SD card back in, factory wipe/etc, install zip, same thing: hung at 80% for a minute or so, then an NC reboot.
It did that twice, and after the third time when I shut it off thinking ok I'll just try the plain old vanilla CM7.2, I pulled the SD card out, put it in the laptop, copied over the CM7.2 zip, popped out the card, back in the NC (but not inserted since I needed to get Cyanoboot up to hold N to get recovery.
That's when the NC wouldn't power back up. Dead, nothing, no response of any kind. Plugged in the charger (factory charger and cable), got the typical colored light (orange or amber or whatever the hell color it is) - before I started this process the NC was 95% for battery, it wasn't plugged in during the attempts to get MiRaGe CM7.2 on it, however.
But even so, no response whatsoever. I held power for 15 seconds or so, pushed in the SD card to try and boot from that, same thing: no response of any kind whatsoever. Popped the card out completely, then decided to try Power+N (nothing), Power for 30 seconds, then let go, power for 5, no go, nothing.
Decided to plug the NC into the computer direct using the factory cable, no response of any kind - the computer is not recognizing anything whatsoever (I know some folks report they get a hardware detection of the OMAP device, I'm not that lucky). Unplug it, hold power for 15 seconds, let it go, wait 10 seconds, plug in the USB cable, still no response, no sound, no activity, no backlight, nada, zip, zilch, zero, null and void, "It's dead, Jim..."
But, I kept trying, using 2 other SD cards I have (a 1GB Sandisk and a 2GB Sandisk), same results: totally dead nothing.
Decided to make this post just for the hell of it but I'm fairly confident that it truly is totally toasted dead. I've tried different CWM bootable images from leapinlar and others, still nothing, no response of any kind, no activity.
I kinda figured that it's truly totally absolutely dead when I plugged it into the laptop and it wasn't detected at all. Holding Power+N while plugging it in (a trick of sheer physical ambidexterity, I assure you) has no effect. Not sure what I may have done, maybe the eMMC is just totally hosed - but then again, it won't boot from SD card either. I've read many posts that say if the boot partition on the eMMC is hosed, it's a dead device but then someone else will say that doesn't matter 'cause you can just put in an SD card (which has boot priority) and it'll fire up but that's not happening with mine.
Went from working device to brick, and I don't know how unless something just totally died in the process that shouldn't have. Oh well, I only paid $25 for it from someone that just didn't use it anymore. Did require a 45 minute charge to get it to wake up yesterday when I got it - previous owner said it had been in a drawer for like 9 months, hadn't been touched at all and I figured it was cheap and would give me something to do.
I know it's dead but, there's always some hope... right?
How you got to your problem was using that 6048 to try to flash mirage. You must use a version of CWM older than 6045 for it to successfully flash older zips. It now sounds like your battery is depleted. That is why you do not get the OMAP thing. Many have successfully revived their devices by dismantling and temporarily disconnecting the battery. I recommend trying that. Then it may boot to one of my older bootable CWM SDs.
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Well I'll be damned... IT'S ALIVE!!! (MUAHAHA--errr... you get the point).
Lifted up the back panel enough to disconnect the battery for a few minutes (don't have a Torx T-5 around here it seems, now I have reason to get one), and sure enough as soon as I reconnected it the NC sprang back to life, so that's pretty awesome. Thanks, I had thought of doing that earlier and figured it might not make that much of a difference, apparently that was a mistake that has now been corrected.
Pushed MiRaGe CM7.2 + Gapps to the device, and I have to agree with everything that's been said so far: right from the gitgo it's fast, faster than anything else I've put on here so far and I suppose given the age of the device, this is pretty much the best it's ever going to be capable of.
I wish KitKat could get a nice clean rebuild leaving out a lot of the cruft for a nice lean install on the NC, some aspects of that version of Android are very cool and the fact that it's designed from the ground up to work better with older hardware aka "limited resource devices" with low internal RAM would sure make it seem like just what the NC really needs.
Oh well, at least it's functional again, thanks for the suggestion, leapinlar, as always your assistance is greatly appreciated.