T-Mobioe vs Developer HTC One? - One (M7) General

Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah

You could always get sim unlocked 32gb for 579 but if you are tmo definitely get unlocked or dev.
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Crazysah said:
Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah
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T-Mobile since it has the AWS bands... You might be in a refarmed area but it's nice to have the aws when you go into an area with out the 1900 refarm.
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I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?

The city Queens and Long Island have been refarmed from where I've been. 1700mHz won't matter after LTE it's rolled out.
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If you have T-Mobile get the Tmo version to secure the best possible speeds
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Crazysah said:
Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah
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If space is not an issue for you, I would recommend T-mobile. I had Droid DNA (frequency the same as new one dev edition, except for LTE) on T-mobile in Tampa, which is a reframed 1900mhz area, and it didn't work very well. Having 1900mhz only makes you lose HSPA+ easily in a building. I chose dev. edition because I want 64GB and unlocked bootloader without losing warranty. Otherwise, I would choose T-mobile.

Crazysah said:
I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?
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I chose the t-mobile version and cancelled my dev order. I decided I could live with 32 gb. To tmo will have full aws speeds now and lte speeds later. The only advantage to the dev is that it has that extra memory. The tmo phone can easily be unlocked.
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EclipzeRemix said:
If you have T-Mobile get the Tmo version to secure the best possible speeds
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Yeah, I guess.
peachlai said:
If space is not an issue for you, I would recommend T-mobile. I had Droid DNA (frequency the same as new one dev edition, except for LTE) on T-mobile in Tampa, which is a reframed 1900mhz area, and it didn't work very well. Having 1900mhz only makes you lose HSPA+ easily in a building. I chose dev. edition because I want 64GB and unlocked bootloader without losing warranty. Otherwise, I would choose T-mobile.
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Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
stevedebi said:
I chose the t-mobile version and cancelled my dev order. I decided I could live with 32 gb. To tmo will have full aws speeds now and lte speeds later. The only advantage to the dev is that it has that extra memory. The tmo phone can easily be unlocked.
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Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?

Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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Once fully paid for you can request a sim unlock code from Tmobile. I've heard that they might make you wait 40 days from purchase before giving out the code.
To unlock the bootloader you can go to htcdev.com

Once you pay it in full, or after 3 months of service, they'll unlock it
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THEindian said:
Once you pay it in full, or after 3 months of service, they'll unlock it
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I think they recently changed the unlock requirements so it's 40 days of full service and the phone has to be fully payed off
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Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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If you mean SIM unlocked, I believe you have to wait 40 days. You can unlock the bootloader any time.
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They both the same phone, its up you. if you travel a lot (Outside the country) then get the unlocked version.. or if you plan on switching carriers later on get the unlocked version.. regardless you'll be able to unlock the T-Mobile version also but deal with any bloatware they add and you'll have to wait for your carrier to approve updates
unlocked version roms can be flashed on the ATT/T-Mobile version .. plus the bootloader is unlocked on both..
If money isn't a issue then why are you even asking this question? just buy the unbranded version which supports LTE on both networks (if im correct) Just know T-Mobile won't replace it and you'll have to go thru HTC and their warranty agreements.. (if the unlocked bootloader even comes with warranty)
Its like you are asking "i got a billion dollars.. should i buy a Ferrari or buy a Bugatti ?"

Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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It was so bad that my friend switched to Straight Talk... (I only visited Tampa for one month but my friend lives there) The only difference is that when New York has Tmobile LTE, new One dev. edition will work under LTE. But before LTE comes, it would probably be similar to what my friend experienced in Tampa.
Be Vegan, Make Peace \(^o^)/

peachlai said:
It was so bad that my friend switched to Straight Talk... (I only visited Tampa for one month but my friend lives there) The only difference is that when New York has Tmobile LTE, new One dev. edition will work under LTE. But before LTE comes, it would probably be similar to what my friend experienced in Tampa.
Be Vegan, Make Peace \(^o^)/
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So assuming NYC gets LTE by the summer (I'll be gone to India anyway for the summer), I'll be fine getting by with one month of 2G. The Dev version has more bands right so supports it works better in most countries?

Crazysah said:
So assuming NYC gets LTE by the summer (I'll be gone to India anyway for the summer), I'll be fine getting by with one month of 2G. The Dev version has more bands right so supports it works better in most countries?
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Yes, if outside of USA, I believe you'll have higher chance of getting a compatible frequency with Dev. Edition. I actually chose dev. edition over T-mobile because I am moving to a place where T-mobile has LTE. But my experience reminds me that I should test the speed before I switch from Straight Talk to T-mobile.
Be Vegan, Make Peace \(^o^)/

peachlai said:
Yes, if outside of USA, I believe you'll have higher chance of getting a compatible frequency with Dev. Edition. I actually chose dev. edition over T-mobile because I am moving to a place where T-mobile has LTE. But my experience reminds me that I should test the speed before I switch from Straight Talk to T-mobile.
Be Vegan, Make Peace \(^o^)/
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I guess I'll order the dev version then and if I run into many problems, I'll sell it when I get back to the USA in August.
Thanks a lot!

1700 > 1900
Crazysah said:
I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?
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I use the T-Mobile version in NYC, and it has better reception where I live as it accesses 1700 AWS HSPA+42, and I get better in building reception with that compared to 1900 (or the kick out to EDGE - ugh!), and voice calls are also better for some reason (not to mention Wifi calling - which I LOST when I flashed AR6 - if someone knows when the T-Mobile ROM will be out, let us know, can't wait to switch back and have that back).
The T-mobile version, even flashed with another rom, doesn't allow Hotspot natively without kicking u to sign up for a hotspot plan, whereas the AT&T version allows hotspot functionality without a headache once you flash another rom and replace the stock AT&T rom.

alinefx said:
I use the T-Mobile version in NYC, and it has better reception where I live as it accesses 1700 AWS HSPA+42, and I get better in building reception with that compared to 1900 (or the kick out to EDGE - ugh!), and voice calls are also better for some reason (not to mention Wifi calling - which I LOST when I flashed AR6 - if someone knows when the T-Mobile ROM will be out, let us know, can't wait to switch back and have that back).
The T-mobile version, even flashed with another rom, doesn't allow Hotspot natively without kicking u to sign up for a hotspot plan, whereas the AT&T version allows hotspot functionality without a headache once you flash another rom and replace the stock AT&T rom.
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I don't care about hotspot. So literally, the only thing I lose by going dev is the Wi-Fi calling?
Where in New York exactly do you live?

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Confirmed: Bell releasing Motorola ATRIX March 17th

It’s now confirmed. Bell has released a statement indicating that the Motorola ATRIX is going to be available on March 17th. As for the price points: $169.95 on a 3-year (with a minimum $50 voice/data plan) or for $599.95 on no-contract. Bell will also sell the Lapdock and the HD Multimedia Dock but no word on those prices were announced.
Specs of this Android have it coming with OS 2.2 with Motoblur, 1GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 Dual-Core processor, 1GB RAM and 1930 mAh battery, Flash Player 10.1, 5-megapixel rear-facing camera with LED flash and 720p HD video recording, VGA front-facing camera, holds up to 48GB with a microSD card (16GB internal and optional 32GB), WiFi.
Who’s buying?
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-motorola-atrix-march-17th-for-599-95/
Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.
leadguy68 said:
Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.
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It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.
zorxd said:
It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.
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HA!
You obviously don't know Canadian cell phone carriers. Bell removed FFC's from some Samsung phones. Did you notice... 3 year contract. AT&T ... 2 year.
Think AT&T is bad... at least you have real choice in the states.
yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though
As an american living in canada the US has far better cell phone service, I just wish motorola made a version that worked on wind because that's what I use... 40/mo for unlimited voice/texts/data is too hard to beat =)
Still, it's nice to see they're releasing it so soon after the US release, usually canada has to wait MONTHS for a phone to hit their side of the border.
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yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though
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They are great. If you live in a metropolitan area. I'm juuust outside Oshawa, the Wind Zone ends 3 blocks from my house. Not good if I'm getting say groceries and need to call home to see if my wife needs something.
Or travelling. As much as I hate Rogers, my data usage in the states comes off my monthly balance
Well captivate owners waited months hoping for a hsupa modem from its canadian brother....no dice
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I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??
Pretty sure you can get an unlock code for any phone out there... just a matter of price. In Toronto you can just go to pacific mall and a ton of places can get it for 10 bucks or so. There's some online sites that work too but it's a bit riskier.
It'll most likely be the same exact phone that AT&T has in terms of hardware since Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same 3G frequencies now.
And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
TareX said:
I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??
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I'm definitely buying this beast. Hoping to get it on the 17th. Been waiting since CES...
4G is a marketing gimic that means whatever you want it to.
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Here's hoping we can extract the bell atrix's firmware and flash it on the gringo version to enable faster upload speeds. Designgears, what do you think?
Confirmed from Bell:
Here are the connectivity details:
•HSPA –global access
•GPRS / EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
•UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, GPS, Bluetooth, DLNA
He'll let me know how I can unlock it in the next email...
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And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
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The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/03/02/bell-hspa-4g-network.html
Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
TareX said:
The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html
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I definately dont get 3mbs
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Well, getting an unlocked, rooted Atrix 4G from the US will cost me CAD $650 ... while getting it locked from Bell would cost me CAD $600.... I'm not sure if $50 is worth worrying about unlockability and rooting...
dinan said:
Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
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It's like how AT&T is doing it, calling their HSPA+ 4G.
I was wondering about rooting the Atrix. The AT&T version is already rooted, would the same rooting method work for the Bell version? Would this only work if they have the exact same firmware for 2.2? I remember when I manually install updates for my Nexus One, I had to wait for the AT&T update to come out since the firmware was different than the TMo version. This was before the versions were merged. So I'm wondering if this is the case? Or does this have no relevance?
Will be getting the Bell's Atrix on the 17!
will this work on tmobile's 3G?

Unlocked on T-Mobile

There seems to be some confusion about this phone working on T-Mobile 4g
YES THE PHONE WORKS!! however if you want 4g you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area and yes LTE works as well.
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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I would like to confirm that the Unlocked 32GB HTC One works perfectly in Phoenix, AZ as well. We're another 1900MHz refarm, and I've spotted LTE in some areas as well. Don't be afraid to grab this from HTC rather than dealing with T-Mobile's shinanigans and bloatware.
I'm in the boston area, which is also refarmed. pretty much same experience as op. all the set up was automatic.
the only thing different is indoors, sitting at my desk which is 3 feet from the window, my phone switches between E, 3g, and H every few minutes like it cant get a stable connection.
havent gone outdoors yet.
Speedtest during H connection was: 104ms ping, 5.13Mbps down, 2.07Mbps up
this is comparable to my g2 speedtests
msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...
MinimalistChris said:
Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...
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Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP
I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim
Houston Area
The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.
Hello there LTE! It's beautiful to see you on my screen. I can now confirm LTE in Houston
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coolpkduck said:
The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.
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I'm sure it won't be long before we have a radio flash for tmobile from the devs
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mr2kqql said:
Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP
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good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.
naan-consensual said:
good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.
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Finally got tethering working by using FoxFi and I get around 10mpbs, the stock one that comes with the phone doesnt quite work for tmobile.
New to the htc one but what is the tmo radio required for? Since it already works unlocked?
If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
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Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?
msmith1991 said:
If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
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The ATT/dev ones are 850/1900/2100MHz UMTS; band 4 (AWS) is the only UMTS band that uses 1700MHz at all.
I wouldn't count on getting AWS enabled on the dev version. It is very likely that the allowed bands are configured in hardware as has generally been the case on MDM9x15 devices.
Joshnor713 said:
Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?
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The unlocked version is strictly worse from a 3G standpoint but might have a couple of extra LTE frequencies (not 100% sure on that one, tmo version definitely is bands 4/17 only). AFAIK the only other place AWS is at all likely to matter is Canada, but assuming tmo will unlock your One there is no frequency advantage to getting the unlocked version from HTC--I think it's $5 cheaper.
If you travel internationally then that's a huge advantage.. but I'm sure tmobile will unlock your phone, if you ask. I purchased the unlocked version because I didn't wanna deal with my uncle (account holder) nor tmobile. Plus there wasnt any information about tmobiles release at the time, I so I hopped on the unlocked version.
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I have the HTC 64GB Developer Edition here in Jacksonville Florida but I only get EDGE on T-Mobile Network I dont know what frequency they are using here in Jacksonville, they could be on 1700Mhz My brothers T-Mobile Galaxy S3 says UMTS-3 and he is getting 4G Speeds.
msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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Yeah you guys can actually use this to check if your area has the refarmed 1900 Mhz
http://www.airportal.de/
howardho said:
I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim
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Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
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Same Here I come from AT&T and I dont like them, I bought this phone to use it with T-Mobile, but I really had it with this HTC One 64GB Developer Edition, HTC should of included AWS 1700mhz on this phone for being such a premium phone with a high price... I'm having the same issue with T-Mobiles Refarm @ 1900mhz keeps dropping from H to EDGE, and I just spoke to my Buddy that works for T-Mobile and there LTE will be on AWS 1700MHZ... I'm shipping this phone back to HTC, I was thinking of buying T-Mobiles HTC One Branded phone that includes the AWS 1700mhz Band, but I don't like the fact that its only a 32GB. I'm going to miss this phone. Ohh well S4 is around the corner maybe I could give Sammy a shot.
954wrecker said:
Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
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TMobile LTE Dayton Ohio

I thought there was a dedicated TMobile One thread here. Now I don't see it and running late today, so--
A sales rep told me a tech said Dayton will turn on LTE in July. Cincinnati will not for now. He said TMobile says to start selling that info here for phone purchases. So, may be pretty accurate. Have known him for awhile. Don't know if that will help anyone like me waiting for much better signal here. I am on fence staying with TMO or going ATT. And don't want to buy phone till I can test the One on TMO LTE where I need the better performance here for business appts. I have other reasons, but not important to this thread.
I know I can get dev edition, but not sure on it's optimization for att as opposed to att one as far as signal reception. I know that can open a bucket of worms for discussion. But, again as OP, not really wanting to get in to that here.
This is basically just FYI--
For what its worth,I've been seeing 3G and H data on my international one X in many parts of dayton,Kettering,beavercreek,moraine,Huber heights,riverside. Working on my att jetstream and inspire as well.
Wonder if they'll have the holes filled in by July when they flip on LTE?
Been debating this phone vs the butterfly,and now that the refarm is creeping in,not sure if I go with t mobile or the dev edition if I go with the one
Thanks for the info
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Thanks Scotty,
Yeah, the holes are their biggest problem. Not enough towers. May be same with lte.
They offer could pricing, but not great coverage.
I am still not sure on lte here in July, when you look at how little they have done compared to att this year. Will see--
If you are buying any of the HTC One Developer Edition 32GB or 64GB the only problem that you might run into is with T-Mobile Because they still have 1700Mhz in use in some areas where they dont have 3G or HSPS on 1900Mhz. But as of today they have Re-frame most of there network in almost 48 cities with 1900Mhz so you will be able to use there 3G or HSPS with Downloads of 14MB and Uploads 6MB. As for my case I got the 64GB HTC One Developer Edition and Im now seing the 1900Mhz in some parts of Jacksonville FL. Your phone will also support LTE 1900Mhz on T-Mobile Lte ones they roll it out. So far I love my phone its Bloatware free with lots of Gigs. I hope this help.
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Thanks Scotty,
Yeah, the holes are their biggest problem. Not enough towers. May be same with lte.
They offer could pricing, but not great coverage.
I am still not sure on lte here in July, when you look at how little they have done compared to att this year. Will see--
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ahernandez4110 said:
If you are buying any of the HTC One Developer Edition 32GB or 64GB the only problem that you might run into is with T-Mobile Because they still have 1700Mhz in use in some areas where they dont have 3G or HSPS on 1900Mhz. But as of today they have Re-frame most of there network in almost 48 cities with 1900Mhz so you will be able to use there 3G or HSPS with Downloads of 14MB and Uploads 6MB. As for my case I got the 64GB HTC One Developer Edition and Im now seing the 1900Mhz in some parts of Jacksonville FL. Your phone will also support LTE 1900Mhz on T-Mobile Lte ones they roll it out. So far I love my phone its Bloatware free with lots of Gigs. I hope this help.
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I will probably go att, since tmo towers or less in number than att. Since Dayton still doesn't have att lte and they have been very agressive, i am doubting lte for tmo in july. att is set for this summer for sure. I am torn on dev or not. Would like to see someone in Dayton with it, but i will probably decide before either have lte here.
has anyone been able to determine if team mobile turned LTE on in dayton?
ATT did this week.
Call a store and ask most would have att phones here. Att is working great.
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ive had lte in Springfield for about 3 weeks i was told that t mobile flipped it on in Springfield the same time
Has TMo LTE shown up here yet?
when i was on 4.2.2 i had the LTE mod on my Nexus 4 and got LTE.. only about 15Mbps/
about to get a N5 and see how good it really is with real radios.

Moto X (Carrier Unlocked Version)

Greetings All,
I purchased a carrier unlocked version of the Moto X from a retailer on ebay. Here's the item number:290976476988 (I would provide the link, but I am not allowed to since I'm a new user). It had a pretty significant markdown from what Motorola is selling them for, so I decided to take a shot in the dark hoping it will work with my carrier, T-mobile, which I'm pretty confident it will. I should be receiving mine at the top of next week, so I'll check back with my results once I get everything squared away.
In the mean time, can anybody confirm if there is one universal carrier unlocked version that will work with T-mobiles bands? Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
conspiracymorpheus said:
Greetings All,
I purchased a carrier unlocked version of the Moto X from a retailer on ebay. Here's the item number:290976476988 (I would provide the link, but I am not allowed to since I'm a new user). It had a pretty significant markdown from what Motorola is selling them for, so I decided to take a shot in the dark hoping it will work with my carrier, T-mobile, which I'm pretty confident it will. I should be receiving mine at the top of next week, so I'll check back with my results once I get everything squared away.
In the mean time, can anybody confirm if there is one universal carrier unlocked version that will work with T-mobiles bands? Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
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It will but is missing the AWS 1700 HSPA frequency. If you go to or live in an area that is not refarmed you will be stuck on EDGE.
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It will but is missing the AWS 1700 HSPA frequency. If you go to or live in an area that is not refarmed you will be stuck on EDGE.
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Oooof. Not what I wanted to hear. You 100% on this?
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Oooof. Not what I wanted to hear. You 100% on this?
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Yes I am. Its the reason I sucked it up and just ordered the crappy 16GB Tmobile one.. Exclusives suck.
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Yes I am. Its the reason I sucked it up and just ordered the crappy 16GB Tmobile one.. Exclusives suck.
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Well I think I may have lucked up, as I did a couple of quick searches and it looks like I'm in an area with 1900 MHz HSPA coverage. Does 1900 MHz constitute "refarmed" HSPA?
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Well I think I may have lucked up, as I did a couple of quick searches and it looks like I'm in an area with 1900 MHz HSPA coverage. Does 1900 MHz constitute "refarmed" HSPA?
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Yes but what I try telling people on here just like I did with the HTC One (and later if you look on those forums many people started getting rid of their developer edition for a tmobile one) is that just because your area is refarmed doesn't mean every inch of it is. I would had to drive to the mall and realize i'm only on EDGE after spending $500+ on a phone. If you area has LTE that will help though. Also if you ever travel anywhere you run into the chance of not having 3G.
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Yes but what I try telling people on here just like I did with the HTC One (and later if you look on those forums many people started getting rid of their developer edition for a tmobile one) is that just because your area is refarmed doesn't mean every inch of it is. I would had to drive to the mall and realize i'm only on EDGE after spending $500+ on a phone. If you area has LTE that will help though. Also if you ever travel anywhere you run into the chance of not having 3G.
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No doubt, and I appreciate the concern as well as the explanation. I live about 10 minutes away from the Loop in Chicago, and I had my Nexus 4 working off of the LTE hack for quite some time until I upgraded to 4.3. I had LTE coverage about 90% of the time, but when I travel to see my Ma in the suburbs I remained on HSPA+ (not sure if its refarmed out that way).
We'll see how I do for the first week. If anything I'll just return this one and just get the T-mobile variant. Hopefully T-mobile continues to expand their LTE coverage in the surrounding areas around the prime metro areas. I've kinda accepted that I won't have mobile data in the boonies, but hopefully T-mobile fixes that soon as well.

Will T-Mobile LTE tablet work on ATT network?

Hi,
Can you please help me out with this question - will T-Mobile LTE Tablet work on ATT network (LTE).
I want to get the LTE version of the Galaxy note but I dont want to use T-Mobile network but would like to use a ATT network on it.
I was wondering if the tablet will get the LTE speed on ATT network?
Thank you.
Regards,
I'd tried it last night- the P607T is SIM-locked to a T-Mo SIM. I normally buy my tablets outright, but at 0% financing and $20/mo for 3GB 'til the end of the year, I went contract for this one. But the good news is in 90 days I can ask for my SIM unlock code (if I don't find a way to hack it beforehand ).
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I'd tried it last night- the P607T is SIM-locked to a T-Mo SIM. I normally buy my tablets outright, but at 0% financing and $20/mo for 3GB 'til the end of the year, I went contract for this one. But the good news is in 90 days I can ask for my SIM unlock code (if I don't find a way to hack it beforehand ).
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Hi, thanks for some clarification. But do you think it will work with AAT? do you see any issues with band thing.
and enjoy your tablet, I seriously want to buy it asap but just trying to figure out if I can get around this network issue.
Cheers
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But do you think it will work with AT&T? Do you see any issues with band thing?
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Oh, sorry- yeah, I'm nearly certain it will. T-Mo is 1700/2100 (AWS) and now 1900 in the markets they'd won from AT&T after the failed merger, and AT&T is 1900 and 850 (see here for details). T-Mo is on LTE Band 4, and AT&T is on Bands 2,4, and 17 (see here for details).
The SM-P607T is LTE on bands 1/2/4/5/7/17 and HSPA+/UMTS on 850/AWS/1900/2100MHz (see here for full specs), so I'm sure it'll work on any North American network at full speeds (SIM lock issue notwithstanding).
But I'm fairly unhappy with the T-Mo signals I'm getting in the San Francisco area when I'm outside the city; I have the hardest time keeping data going when I'm on CalTrain, whereas my OG Note 10.1 on AT&T only had an issue in the tunnels. I'm going to have to either flash a better(?) radio (I'm willing to give up LTE for better UMTS) or find a way to SIM unlock this baby ASAP so I can go on AT&T.
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Oh, sorry- yeah, I'm nearly certain it will. T-Mo is 1700/2100 (AWS) and now 1900 in the markets they'd won from AT&T after the failed merger, and AT&T is 1900 and 850 (see here for details). T-Mo is on LTE Band 4, and AT&T is on Bands 2,4, and 17 (see here for details).
The SM-P607T is LTE on bands 1/2/4/5/7/17 and HSPA+/UMTS on 850/AWS/1900/2100MHz (see here for full specs), so I'm sure it'll work on any North American network at full speeds (SIM lock issue notwithstanding).
But I'm fairly unhappy with the T-Mo signals I'm getting in the San Francisco area when I'm outside the city; I have the hardest time keeping data going when I'm on CalTrain, whereas my OG Note 10.1 on AT&T only had an issue in the tunnels. I'm going to have to either flash a better(?) radio (I'm willing to give up LTE for better UMTS) or find a way to SIM unlock this baby ASAP so I can go on AT&T.
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Thank you that helps alot. Next stop T-Mo shop
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Next stop T-Mo shop
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Do you already have a plan for removing the SIM Subsidy lock? I've heard that even with bought-outright tablets it's some work to get T-Mo to recognize that.
Verizon LTE Version
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Do you already have a plan for removing the SIM Subsidy lock? I've heard that even with bought-outright tablets it's some work to get T-Mo to recognize that.
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Hello, I have the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Verizon LTE version and I'm using it now with a T-Mobile prepaid sim card, no sim lock on this version and I can get LTE or 4G signal on ATT and T-Mobile.
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Hello, I have the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Verizon LTE version ...
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Have you been able to (or know if you can) root it? I'd heard VZW is notorious for locking the bootloader and/or requring signed images.
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Have you been able to (or know if you can) root it? I'd heard VZW is notorious for locking the bootloader and/or requring signed images.
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I did not try to root it and have no plans to do so, I'm happy the way it is now, just want to let everybody knows that this version is SIM UNLOCK.
It's confirmed! I'd gone to Cellunlocker.net and SIM-unlocked my device (I'd previously tried IMEI-Unlocker.com, but they weren't able to do it), and tried a Net-10 SIM from my phone and was able to get LTE on AT&T .
I've got a real AT&T SIM at home that's currently in my OG Note 10.1, but I don't think that one's provisioned for LTE- in any case I'll post a Screenshot from the Network Status Monitor app in a few hrs.
I got a good deal on data from T-Mo (200MB free + 1GB free 'till 12/31/14 + $2GB for $20 = 3.2GB for $20/mo), but the signal just isn't there when I need it on my commute and an AT&T iPad data plan is just $30 for 3GB (and far more reliable for me).
... and after re-registering my AT&T "iPad" data SIM for LTE, I can now confirm I get LTE on AT&T.
I have a full-size VZW SIM laying around that's got an old Moto Xoom $20/1GB plan on it I haven't gotten rid of yet- I'll see if I can get a VZW store to give me a new Micro-SIM and see if that works, too.
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I'll see if I can get a VZW store to give me a new Micro-SIM and see if that works, too.
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Confirmed.
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I'll see if I can get a VZW store to give me a new Micro-SIM and see if that works, too.
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Confirmed.
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Caveat - VZW has some LTE Band 4 (which we have), but is primarily Band 13- which we don't have in the P607T- so as soon as I'd gone outside the SF city limits, I got no signal.
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Caveat - VZW has some LTE Band 4 (which we have), but is primarily Band 13- which we don't have in the P607T- so as soon as I'd gone outside the SF city limits, I got no signal.
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Hi all.
I have a problem I'm hoping to get some feedback on. So I have the t-mobile version of this tablet. I unlocked the network via cellunlocker.net.
It reads my at&t iPad Sim just fine and lte works. Then all of a sudden I keep getting no data error. All apps that require data star that there is a net work error.
Basically the data keeps timing out. I have verified the apn settings for att broadband from my att note 8.0. So they are fine.
Anyone else experiencing this problem with an att sim?
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Hi all.
I have a problem I'm hoping to get some feedback on. So I have the t-mobile version of this tablet. I unlocked the network via cellunlocker.net.
It reads my at&t iPad Sim just fine and lte works. Then all of a sudden I keep getting no data error. All apps that require data star that there is a net work error.
Basically the data keeps timing out. I have verified the apn settings for att broadband from my att note 8.0. So they are fine.
Anyone else experiencing this problem with an att sim?
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You ever get this resolved? I just bought one of these and am going to attempt to unlock it and put in an ATT SIM.
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Basically the data keeps timing out. ... Anyone else experiencing this problem with an AT&T SIM?
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You ever get this resolved?
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FWIW, I've run many GBs of data thru my AT&T SIM (across a fair stretch of the SF Bay Area's Peninsula) and haven't had this problem; I suspect the above poster may be in a marginal AT&T (LTE?) area.
One of the things @biswasd could try is flashing the Nordic P605 4.4.2 ROM (which I've modified to prevent Odin errors from trying to reflash the bootloaders and radios and have uploaded here); I'm currently running this (with zero issues) and there's a new selection in "Mobile Data" that allows you to do only 3G/2G data; when I'm on the train in the a.m. this helps as the radio will try hanging onto an LTE signal longer than it needs to as I'm doing 75MPH and who knows how many tower handoffs (and I will see temporary data stalls sometimes when on LTE Auto Select).
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FWIW, I've run many GBs of data thru my AT&T SIM (across a fair stretch of the SF Bay Area's Peninsula) and haven't had this problem; I suspect the above poster may be in a marginal AT&T (LTE?) area.
One of the things @biswasd could try is flashing the Nordic P605 4.4.2 ROM (which I've modified to prevent Odin errors from trying to reflash the bootloaders and radios and have uploaded here); I'm currently running this (with zero issues) and there's a new selection in "Mobile Data" that allows you to do only 3G/2G data; when I'm on the train in the a.m. this helps as the radio will try hanging onto an LTE signal longer than it needs to as I'm doing 75MPH and who knows how many tower handoffs (and I will see temporary data stalls sometimes when on LTE Auto Select).
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That's good to hear. I'm also in the Bay Area and have been on AT&T forever. But I'm tired of their locked bootloaders and lack of updates on their Android tablets. My Note 8.0 i467 is still on 4.1 and will be on the market soon if the P607T works well on AT&T LTE.
This is the first time I'm trying a TMobile variant. Once it arrives from Amazon, I have to unlock it, root it, and maybe try the ROM you mentioned. Any other ROM recommendations? Especially to get rid of the TW lag.
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... if the P607T works well on AT&T LTE.
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It does- and it also works pretty good on T-Mo too, as long as you're not in one of their black holes (but FWIW I really haven't found a T-Mo area that's totally dead in the Peninsula yet).
... TW lag.
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It's really non existent on this device, though. I have side-loaded the Google Now Launcher 'cause I'd wanted GN right on the device (and have Frozen "S-Search"/"S-Voice"), but really TW isn't an issue.
Oh, and:
Once it arrives from Amazon
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It's too late for you now, but for others- unless you're getting a significantly-lower price than $600 for a P607T, T-Mo US' "$0" down (really ~$65; you have to buy a SIM for $10 and pay Sales Tax on $600 up front, at least here in Cali) and 0% financing offer can't be beat, esp. since you get 1GB/mo for free 'till the end of 2014 and 200MB/mo for life after that.
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It does- and it also works pretty good on T-Mo too, as long as you're not in one of their black holes (but FWIW I really haven't found a T-Mo area that's totally dead in the Peninsula yet).
It's really non existent on this device, though. I have side-loaded the Google Now Launcher 'cause I'd wanted GN right on the device (and have Frozen "S-Search"/"S-Voice"), but really TW isn't an issue.
Oh, and:
It's too late for you now, but for others- unless you're getting a significantly-lower price than $600 for a P607T, T-Mo US' "$0" down (really ~$65; you have to buy a SIM for $10 and pay Sales Tax on $600 up front, at least here in Cali) and 0% financing offer can't be beat, esp. since you get 1GB/mo for free 'till the end of 2014 and 200MB/mo for life after that.
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So, you bought the device on Tmobile but run it on AT&T? Is it possible to run AOSP or CM11?
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So, you bought the device on T-Mobile but run it on AT&T?
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... and Verizon, too (well, OK only in one of VZW's newish "Band 4 xLTE" areas ). I did buy a $20/3GB plan from T-Mo when I got the tablet, and I switch SIMs around from time-to-time.
Is it possible to run AOSP or CM11?
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Don't know; didn't look, but normally I don't 'cause aftermarket ROMs on high-end Samsung devices tend to have missing features anyway so I never bother. I even like the standard kernel (despite it being non-OCed and sooo many revs back) that I'm not going to bother publishing an upgraded kernel like I usually do on the other tablets I've owned.

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