I bought my Note 10.1 not long ago and after i played around a lot, rooted it and made it a german Note (it came from switzerland, no software updates available).
I thought, i can connect a mouse, a keyboard, USB drives .. but to get a video signal to my monitor, i would need the HDMI adapter for 18€ (which is much for a port that is native on most android tablets) which would block out USB devices OR i would buy the Allshare cast for 60€, which is wireless. I even planned to use it as windows alternative. Anyway, there are not much reviews about it that match my opinion after i used it for 15 minutes.
Out of the box, everything is great. I connect it to my 27" Asus PC screen (i was surprised they incuded a HDMI cable!), it starts by itself - huh, no separate switch to turn it off? No, there is not. It's always on. At least the LED doesn't shine as bright as the sun.
After that, i connected the Note 10.1 with it. I recorded for you what happens next:
Yup, that's right. Every Multiwindow availability disappears. From that point, it was almost certain i would send it back. But that's still not everything, i have ~15-20 FPS when scrolling through my homescreens and app drawer! Also there is ~0,1 - 0,2s of lag between the Note's screen and my Asus. I think videos work fine, i had only Simpsons on the Note and i can't really tell the FPS by that.
And the last part: The image quality is lousy. My 27" has only FullHD which is approximately half the DPI of the Note 10.1. But it has artefacts (it kind of compresses the colors i think; i tried to make pictures but you can't really see anything on it) which makes the image look so bad that i could instantly decide that i would send it back.
Probably i made someone the decision easier whether to buy it or not. I will buy the HDMI cable, have a look at the image quality and if it's worth it (and only then) i will keep it and probably buy a bluetooth keyboard + mouse so i can try again to use it as desktop replacement.
CentaXx said:
Out of the box, everything is great. I connect it to my 27" Asus PC screen (i was surprised they incuded a HDMI cable!), it starts by itself - huh, no separate switch to turn it off? No, there is not. It's always on. At least the LED doesn't shine as bright as the sun.
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I use the AllShare Cast dongle a lot; especially when I'm traveling. It performs pretty well but the weaker the Wi-Fi connection the more latency is introduced. I have no problems using the web or watching videos on hotel TVs when I'm traveling with good performance about 90% of the time. I've used the HTC Media Link HD dongle which does the same thing the Samsung dongle does. There's far less latency between the device and the dongle on Samsung's solution, it's easier to connect, and the HTC dongle has no on or off switch either.
Yup, that's right. Every Multiwindow availability disappears.
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AllShare Cast uses a lot of resources on the device. I'm guessing that's why they disabled multiview which also uses a lot of resources on the device.
And the last part: The image quality is lousy.
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Here are two clips of video playing via AllShare. The first is Hulu the second is YouTube. That means the device is downloading content via Wi-Fi and then projecting it out again via Wi-Fi to the dongle which is a lot more resource intensive than just playing local content. You’ll see the videos (both HD) play with no problem. I haven't had any issues (provided the Wi-Fi signal's decent) watching video from any number of sources. There's an update for the dongle in Play. Have you applied it?
Hmm, I also have the AllShare Cast dongle and I connect it with a Sony Bravia tv with excellent result, granted I limit its usage to playing locally stored video content but I have played some YouTube videos as well in HD mode with superb picture quality. I sit too far away from the tv to use it as an alternate screen but I suppose it might be possible.
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Yes, the update is installed. i didn't mean to compare the dongle to the HTC one, it's just that for my expectations the dongle did really bad. For pure multimedia purpose it would be not as bad as i experienced (the helicopter demo video ran smoothly), but i couldn't do anything to get higher FPS in android. I could even neglect the lag and a BIT of the bad image quality.
If i would only want to watch videos on the TV streamed with the Note, the Allcast Dongle would do fine but then i could use the HDMI cable, too - a bit less comfy, but 40€ cheaper than the dongle.
The dongle however is a lot more convenient than a cable. You can walk around with your tablet or sit quite a distance from the screen.
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hilarious! why would I want LESS multi-tasking capability on a BIGGER screen?
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2 days ago, I've successfully tested the Galaxy TAB AllShare function connecting to
my new Samsung 46" 3D LED TV (UA46C7000). Using the free given USB Wi-Fi dongle
(and a free HDMI v1.4 cable too) that come with my new 3D Blu-Ray Player (BD6900),
plugged it into the TV and connecting to my home Wi-Fi router access was a breeze.
After key-in the Wi-fi passcode using the on-screen keyboard of the 3D LED TV and
launch the AllShare function on the TV and Galaxy TAB, the setup is all done within
a minute or 2. During the AllShare connection, I can launch either from the 3D LED TV
or Galaxy TAB to playback those MP4, MP3 or pictures files that stored in my Galaxy TAB.
Before this great thing happening, I was thinking of buying into Galaxy TAB Multimedia
Dock Station, a HDMI v1.3 Type C and an audio cables for doing the same job I wanted.
Now I does not require them anymore. I'm contented and a very happy man now.
Some screenshots. Enjoy!
green with envy!
Don't be bro.
I happened to be buying for my Chinese New Year celebration.
Got it installed on the short width of my 3.2m x 5.5m bedroom, this 46" look huge but still just nice for my room.
Anything larger size like 55" would be to big.
Nowaday 3D LED TV prices has cut down by a lot when compared to it first launch in 2Q of 2010 in Singapore.
Think by another 6 months or so, it will almost the same price like a high spec Full HD LED TV.
By another 12 months, it will be around the price of low spec Full HD LED TV.
Well, happy new year! I wish you peace, health, prosperity.
Thank you my friend. I wishes you well too.
So I'm waiting for my hdmi cable to come from monoprice, and I'm getting kind of anxious. I was just curious if anybody converted 720p videos and played them on a large hdtv, and how it worked out. Was there smooth playback, was there an audio delay, is the quality what you expected? Also, how are games displayed? I saw a video of someone playing angry birds on the Evo but the frame rate was pretty bad.
I got my HDMI cable yesterday. I haven't tried converting any videos and playing them on my 46 inch HD TV, but I did stream a TWiT TV video on the Xoom and mirrored it on the TV. It looked really good. The sound synced up fine, but it carries the audio on the HDMI so I had to turn up the volume on my TV to hear it. I think I'll either have to route the audio out on my TV to my stereo or I'll have to send the headphone jack of the Xoom to my stereo.
Since the Xoom screen has a vertical resolution of 800 pixels and the HDMI out is running at 720, some of the top and bottom of the screen gets cut off. If you are playing a 720 video that shouldn't be an issue though.
I'll try playing Angry Birds on it and see how the frame rate looks. I didn't notice any degredation in the frame rate though while I was playing around with it yesterday.
After playing with it for an hour or so I was pretty happy with the way it looked. I'm waiting for Flash so I can see how Netflix mirrored to my TV looks. Now you've got me wondering though. I'm going to RIP a DVD and see how it looks mirrored to my TV from the Xoom.
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I got my HDMI cable yesterday. I haven't tried converting any videos and playing them on my 46 inch HD TV, but I did stream a TWiT TV video on the Xoom and mirrored it on the TV. It looked really good. The sound synced up fine, but it carries the audio on the HDMI so I had to turn up the volume on my TV to hear it. I think I'll either have to route the audio out on my TV to my stereo or I'll have to send the headphone jack of the Xoom to my stereo.
Since the Xoom screen has a vertical resolution of 800 pixels and the HDMI out is running at 720, some of the top and bottom of the screen gets cut off. If you are playing a 720 video that shouldn't be an issue though.
I'll try playing Angry Birds on it and see how the frame rate looks. I didn't notice any degredation in the frame rate though while I was playing around with it yesterday.
After playing with it for an hour or so I was pretty happy with the way it looked. I'm waiting for Flash so I can see how Netflix mirrored to my TV looks. Now you've got me wondering though. I'm going to RIP a DVD and see how it looks mirrored to my TV from the Xoom.
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Netflix doesn't use flash though so it won't do you any good unless you're using an app like Playon.
I used it last night. (no 720p source)
Mainly on the Youtube app and got some issues.
Now the cable I got was 15' from amazon, but who knows how good it is.
I'm connecting it to a 27" PC monitor that has been wonky with my cable box (I think its the cable box's issue)
But that said, it restarted my Xoom 3 times. Videos would play fine and then freeze, with the tap to restart message. Audio would be out of sync for awhile, and then catch up, or freeze. Im thinking it might be the app though, I don't have any other media on it to play though. When it was working, the quality was great (other than the HQ youtube) menus looked sharp, sound was perfect.
Ill try and move some 720p Community episodes over tonight and see how they look.
+1 for community.
Hopefully it is just the youtube app, it seems a lot of people either hit or miss with that. I don't know, since day one, I have had what I would consider a relatively low amount of force closes (maybe 1-2 per day) with random stuff here or there, but some people talk about it like they can't use it at all. The 1-2 is with several hours of various usage per day, and the force close is usually when trying to open an app, not even when I'm doing anything important. I never had any wiggling on the upper half of the Palm Pre from a release day launch, never had any issues with the Evo Maybe I'm just lucky.
I bet my Xoom explodes tonight.
converting a 720p movie on my xoom tonight and trying it out..
also youtube has massive problems to begin with soo, naturally the mirroring was horrible
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So I'm waiting for my hdmi cable to come from monoprice, and I'm getting kind of anxious. I was just curious if anybody converted 720p videos and played them on a large hdtv, and how it worked out. Was there smooth playback, was there an audio delay, is the quality what you expected? Also, how are games displayed? I saw a video of someone playing angry birds on the Evo but the frame rate was pretty bad.
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I have Despicable Me, 720p version, on my Xoom, plugged it in with the Micro HDMI to My 50" Samsung - looked great I thought. Mouthing I slightly off, but thats how it is on my Xoom to so no changes with that. I also played Mario Cart with the N64 App and the Wiimote hooked up. Worked great!
I have Avatar, Startrek & Transformers 2 on my device played them all via HDMI using the Rock Player app and it was perfect sound was in sync and no lag.
Played Nes & Snes and both were great too. Web browsing was also very solid.
Only one issue and that was the YouTube app. Its an app issue not tablet or HDMI... that app is unstable at best usually anyways and Google needs to update it.
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Netflix doesn't use flash though so it won't do you any good unless you're using an app like Playon.
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Playon is the plan. Works great on my Samsung Epic that I rooted and installed Froyo on.
I made a video for this.
youtube.com/watch?v=2PzSJv3Pcsk
P.S. Oh and if you liked it please like, comment, and subscribe as I am in the process of trying to become a youtube partner so I can help off set the cost of buying all my gadgets, and hopefully eventually start giving the stuff I review away to my viewers. Thanks
Edit: Just wanted to say that the TV in the video is a 55" 1080p TV.
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I used it last night. (no 720p source)
Mainly on the Youtube app and got some issues.
Now the cable I got was 15' from amazon, but who knows how good it is.
I'm connecting it to a 27" PC monitor that has been wonky with my cable box (I think its the cable box's issue)
But that said, it restarted my Xoom 3 times. Videos would play fine and then freeze, with the tap to restart message. Audio would be out of sync for awhile, and then catch up, or freeze. Im thinking it might be the app though, I don't have any other media on it to play though. When it was working, the quality was great (other than the HQ youtube) menus looked sharp, sound was perfect.
Ill try and move some 720p Community episodes over tonight and see how they look.
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I have the same problem with the YouTube app when on wifi and no hdmi. I have not tried too much on wireless since I don't want to burn through my cap but the few I tried worked better. Regardless I am inclined to say it is the app and not the HDMI out.
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Screw you tube for now it's loaded with glitches. I just uploaded a 720 p mad men episode flawless.. sound is a little crappy doubt but not unsynced
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Hey guys..
Here is a Demo video of MHL TV-Out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFG4S7g0_Ls (Credits to GSMArena)
Some additional info here too: http://blog.gsmarena.com/watch-sams...o-hdtv-through-its-mhl-port-video/#more-13930
Turns out its a sucess in my opinion. The only thing is that the cable is not included.
I want to know if u guys are getting one and on which website/prices.
Definitely getting one but most sites like Expansys, Clove etc say early June for getting stock.
Is the output signal upscaled?
Wish they would have tested a 1080P source...
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Wish they would have tested a 1080P source...
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I thought the Lady Gaga video at the beginning was 1080p...
It was, or at least its file name indicated that (they should have brought up the media details while it was playing to show that).
I was quite tickled to have beaten them to demo'ing USB OTG!
(I wonder if they are the one person to dislike my video so far?!)
Shame it only works when the power is connected
Kinda removes alot of the wow factor when you have to plug in all the cables to make it work.
We need a power cable ?
So stupid, is it confirmed ? No way to use MHL without power ?
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I thought the Lady Gaga video at the beginning was 1080p...
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I have not noticed, immediately sprinted for the bathroom to throw up.
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We need a power cable ?
So stupid, is it confirmed ? No way to use MHL without power ?
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I htink you can if the TV supports that, otherwise you need to power the sucker up.
I think video output is limited to 800x480 regardless of video source because it's display mirroring, it does not switch off the lcd when playing video. That's my opinion.
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We need a power cable ?
So stupid, is it confirmed ? No way to use MHL without power ?
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You only need the power cable if you want to charge the phone while it's connected. The HDMI output will work regardless.
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I think video output is limited to 800x480 regardless of video source because it's display mirroring, it does not switch off the lcd when playing video. That's my opinion.
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Are you sure about this?
Would be very bad..
If it was so, we can't experience full HD movies?! or it just rearranges screen after playback the movie?
Would like to know that..
According to the article, the display won't work without being plugged in:
It took us a few minute to get the thing going – it turns out, the adapter won’t work unless you connect a charger too. After that, the content on the screen is automatically mirrored on the HDTV.
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I'm completely confused!
Are we saying that if you want to connect the phone to a tv in order to play a video, you MUST have either (a) an MHL-capable tv or (b) the charger also plugged in?
If so, that's completely ridiculous. Who the hell wants to carry their charger all the time?
If only someone could confirm this. Except none of us have the damn cable!
I'm seriously reconsidering this phone. What with the complaints about the audio, the complaints about the GPS, and now this.
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I think video output is limited to 800x480 regardless of video source because it's display mirroring, it does not switch off the lcd when playing video. That's my opinion.
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In the MHL consortium video from MWC it shows the display on the phone turning off on video playback (with onscreen media controls showing). For video I am quite sure its output is 1080p (Samsung have an official walkthrough video on youtube today which specifically states this also).
Yeah, I think It's 1080p too. What tv does even support 800x480 resolution? Ofcourse its upscaled somehow. And what idea would it be to support playing full hd if you can't see that its hd?
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Personally I'd rather have the option for both, but having to require the charger being plugged in seems to be the lesser of two evils. At least this way you can have the phone continually on if you're using it for extended periods of time on a large screen.
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Has anyone tried whether you get TV Out using the 3.5mm jack? I know the quality wont be as good but just want to know.
Tv out plus Sky Go
This works perfect i use it to watch sky go on my tv my parents have sky tv so i put sky go on my phone and plug it in and away i go. No subs for me lol its just a pain when people try to ring or i get a text.
This is really annoying. You can play a video using HDMI out to a TV and it plays full screen, as long as it is from Google movies. However if you try and play a video of your own it isn't full screen. It is missing about 3cm each side. I can't work out why or how to change it as it has the ability to. Any ideas?
Thanks
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Does it downscale the image to 1080p when you are in the UI? If not it might be that whatever app you are using is not yet set up for the N10.
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Yeah it cuts the side bits off. Only time you get full screen is via Google movie store
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Right, that's really odd. Wonder why they wouldn't have system-wide downscaling?
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Here we go... Let's see if this actually better than the Infinity. I returned it just to buy this. I use HDMI out a lot...
SRCP said:
Here we go... Let's see if this actually better than the Infinity. I returned it just to buy this. I use HDMI out a lot...
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Let me know if you have any luck outputting full screen
Yup. Huge bars on the side and can't get rid of the bottom bar like the tf700 can. I hope this is fixed. However, I messed with my bravia TV a little it is much better now. I'll post pics.
does audio work?
Does audio work?
There is a thread with 3 different people saying video works but not audio.
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Does audio work?
There is a thread with 3 different people saying video works but not audio.
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I'd also like to know.
I get sound, but both the sound and video stutter in Google play movies. Tried ice age and planet earth, both stuttered badly. Hoping this is just one of those things that will be fixed in an update.
I have had my Nexus 10 for about a week now and really like it. This YouTube issue is something that needs to be addressed. Ice Age plays full screen perfect 1080p smooth as silk. YouTube plays at lower quality in a black frame. It also plays on the tablet screen when plugged into HDMI to TV. Make the YouTube app perform like the Google Play app please
Any news on that?
I find that the youtube app won't go full screen when HDMI is plugged in, any solution?
I'm reading everywhere that ppl say it's not outputting fullscreen.
At the chance of being simply wrong: did you ever take into account that the usual TV with its 1080p resolution (1920x1080) has a 16:9 screen ratio but the tablet with its 2560x1600 resolution clearly has a 16:10 screen reatio.
So it simply does not match. If just mirroring what is seen on the tablet... it will always have those black bars on the TV screen.
Or am I just not understanding what everyone barks about?
The transformer it's also 16:10. It removes the bars and (no need for them on the TV) and voila. It also blanks the screen when watching videos. That's one area where the tramsformer is a lot better, but it's a simple fix. You know, I'm not picky but it really annoys ke that such a simple thing to fix has not been addressed. How can you test the HDMI and not notice that and at least give some basic options. That type of thing is inexcusable. Watch them never give us any options.
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I find that the youtube app won't go full screen when HDMI is plugged in, any solution?
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Thanked because I have the same issue. Anyone figured it out?
Movies
Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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Mine works fine hooked up to tv with Google movies. I have not tried it while plugged into the wall though.
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Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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I have no problem watching movies or TV shows with the Google Play Movies app, connected to a 46" Sharp TV. Audio & video are fine. There is the occasional stutter, but nothing too bad. I've only played shows off battery - I haven't tried it while charging yet, though I can't believe that would make a difference.
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I have no problem watching movies or TV shows with the Google Play Movies app, connected to a 46" Sharp TV. Audio & video are fine. There is the occasional stutter, but nothing too bad. I've only played shows off battery - I haven't tried it while charging yet, though I can't believe that would make a difference.
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Just tried again on my TV and on my computer monitors, all are fully HDCP compliant. It's either the tablet or the cable cause it doesn't work with any of those screens, just stops at spinner on HDMI Screen every time.
Unfortunately I don't have another device or another cable to rule out which is not the cause.
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So I really wanted to try this, so I bought the converter cable from mono price and just got it.
I hooked it all up and can stream my mkvs or mp4's, to my 55 inch tv and it looks amazing. The only problem I have is resolution I guess. The android desktop for example fills up my TV screen, but the icons and mostly the wording is so fuzzy or pixelated u can barely read it. What would cause this? If I can fix this minor issued everything is perfect. Even opening my browser and going to web pages, u can barely make out the text.
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So I really wanted to try this, so I bought the converter cable from mono price and just got it.
I hooked it all up and can stream my mkvs or mp4's, to my 55 inch tv and it looks amazing. The only problem I have is resolution I guess. The android desktop for example fills up my TV screen, but the icons and mostly the wording is so fuzzy or pixelated u can barely read it. What would cause this? If I can fix this minor issued everything is perfect. Even opening my browser and going to web pages, u can barely make out the text.
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Check your TVs setting. My TV has many options and aspect ratios.
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