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The Galaxy S ++R.I.P.++ ?
As you all know, Samsung has decided to abandon one of it's most popular childs by not delivering the sacred last Android version to this device.
But this is not the end of the story for this great phone, because the community lives.
There are many valiant people out there that are investing a lot of their free time to bring us the taste of fresh, homemade Ice Cream Sandwich.
Some of them are developers, some of them support development and deployment by providing the required infrastructure, others are committed to "real" testing and many people simple take their time to patiently answer questions, some of which have already been asked hundreds of times before.
And some people simply don't read what is written in the OP of ICS threads (or the previous post(s)). They complain, moan, request, demand, whine, ... to a point where even the most motivated people of the first category start asking themselves if their efforts are worth it.
And then there are thousands of people who can read, who try to find solutions, who know all the secrets of search engines and one never hears of them.
Why, because maybe they have not enough time to help or the questions they could reply to have already been answered hundred of times and certainly most of them do not post in the threads unless they have something useful to say.
This thread is for you guys and girls. If you have already hit the 'thanks' button and if you already donated what you can afford and you still feel like communicating your gratitude without spamming or flooding the development threads, then this is the place to do so.
Any moaning, flaming, blaming, whining and other stupid comments will be reported immediately.
Thanks a lot for your cooperation.
Edit: rephrased the passage above, because there were some misunderstandings...
So I would like to say thank you to all the people I mentioned above.
Even though I am using Onecosmics wonderful ICS RC1 release, I do not forget people from other teams that are investing their free time in the development of ICS on the Galaxy S and related devices.
There is a lot of "parallel evolution" or "cross-species evolution" as biologists say, this means that the teams or individuals are taking inspiration from the solutions found by other teams and integrete the results of it into their own work.
I also want to say thank you to all the people involved in supporting the projects. I am unable to name all of them so if you helped supporting and deploying the releases, this Thanks is for you.
SiriusCybernetik said:
This thread is for you guys and girls. If you feel like communicating your gratitude without spamming or flooding the development threads, then this is the place to do so.
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No need for any spam or flood, just go to the respective thread and hit the thanks button. More, do a donation to the developers. That's what I call a THANK YOU.
What are you on about?
What happened to this?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/27/2663320/samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-ics-upgrade-review
ics 4.0.3
onecosmic rom 4.0.3 rc2.1.1 is supercool
daily use rom
This is 'old' news.
It seems that Samsung will bring some kind of 'value pack update'. Something like an ICS theme on GB
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_to_get_a_value_pack_update_instead_of_ics-news-3583.php
Some more recent news say that Samsung wont even grant us this.
http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/0...-deliver-value-pack-for-galaxy-s-smartphones/
Anyway, if one day Samsung will change its mind, then it will partially be due to the fluid ICS roms out there for SGS....
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Agreed with donations and the thanks button.
Yet, some may feel that's insufficient and the need to just get a more personal thank you may come across. One specific thread helps with this and can't see harm in it.
I can see where this comes from so:
Thank you developers
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Well said !
This aint no substitute to 'Thanks button', buying a beer or donation, it is complementary.
If you dont't like this idea, then stay away.
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I didn't say I didn't agree with the idea. My "no need for any spam or flood" was agreeing with the original post that you shouldn't spam the development threads with verbose thanks but instead just hit the thanks button and do a donation if you appreciate their work. Is my english that bad?
I love ics. Thanks to teamhacksung onecosmic and all the others. Before ics I was using customs samsung rooms and now I miss stock samsung camera. Hope Samsung will release one for aosp ics
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+1 ICS is running very well now on beta12
Of course it's not kind from Samsung not to release ICS für the Galaxy S. No problem - next time i'll buy a phone from another manufacturer. The are a lot of.
Many thanks to the community, which brought us great things like the Lagfix, the possibility NOT to install TouchWiz and many other things i just don't remember.
Thanks.
I love ICS, I'm currently using S.U.R.F.A.C.E's version. I would like to thank all developers - teamhacksung onecosmic and all the others. I miss the old camera app and radio but I hope the open source community comes up with a solution soon.
Galaxy S is capable for ICS
Guys and Girls,
The first Galaxy S is working great on ICS. My self using Teamhacksung Build 12 now, started with build 10 and have just a few minor problems, but these problems are caused by the installed apps that cannot work fully on ICS yet. Hope that they will be upgraded soon.
Samsung isn't even giving the value pack.
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pynex said:
Of course it's not kind from Samsung not to release ICS für the Galaxy S. No problem - next time i'll buy a phone from another manufacturer. The are a lot of.
Many thanks to the community, which brought us great things like the Lagfix, the possibility NOT to install TouchWiz and many other things i just don't remember.
Thanks.
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You should consider that Samsung updated the phone for a long time, and gave it two major updates. I don't think there are many other companies who update longer than that. In fact, the only android devices that get really all the updates until they can't handle it anymore are the Google phones. And then you should ask yourself: do you really care SO much about getting updates all the time? If that is so, you are forced to buy a Google nexus.
Yes, it's sad that Samsung are not the angels that we thought they were. But anyone ranting that they'll never buy a Samsung phone again should get real. Really no offense, but Samsung is a company. And a company lives not only from happy customers. It lives from happy customers that buy their new products, and so they have to add exclusive features. And 2 years of updating is fair enough for me.
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What you think?
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El Aidge said:
You should consider that Samsung updated the phone for a long time, and gave it two major updates. I don't think there are many other companies who update longer than that. In fact, the only android devices that get really all the updates until they can't handle it anymore are the Google phones. And then you should ask yourself: do you really care SO much about getting updates all the time? If that is so, you are forced to buy a Google nexus.
Yes, it's sad that Samsung are not the angels that we thought they were. But anyone ranting that they'll never buy a Samsung phone again should get real. Really no offense, but Samsung is a company. And a company lives not only from happy customers. It lives from happy customers that buy their new products, and so they have to add exclusive features. And 2 years of updating is fair enough for me.
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Dear El Aidge,
I hope you felt better after writing the above post.
I must congratulate you on your realistic assessment of Samsung as a company. I do agree entirely with you.
But next time you post in this thread, may I kindly ask you to stay on topic? This tread is not about bashing nasty Samsung or whining.
My intention was to offer the Galaxy S ICS users a place where they can say thanks to the community without flooding dev threads and without being annoyed by people that feel the need to play teacher...
Have a nice day and enjoy your Galaxy on ICS.
I want to say thanks you at all the people who participe at the ics developpement , thanks you to do that, and thanks you to share with us.
I could see that Sammy has decided to give official upgrade to ICS for customers in Germany... Any idea about when Indians will get their official upgrade to ICS?
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I could see that Sammy has decided to give official upgrade to ICS for customers in Germany... Any idea about when Indians will get their official upgrade to ICS?
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Since u know sammy rolled out ICS for germany, y dun u ask them? Sammy roll ICS...not XDA...
As for india......................
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If you can't wait, flash the german ICS version first?
Since u know sammy rolled out ICS for germany, y dun u ask them? Sammy roll ICS...not XDA...
As for india......................
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Translation:
As you're aware, it is Samsung who are supplying the ICS update, and not the XDA forums, hence Samsung are the people who will know if/when the update will be made available to India, and not the forum users - on the rare occassions that this information _is_ supplied by Samsung, it is even more rare that the information is reliable (i.e - almost never have their promised time-frames been met initially)
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As you're aware, it is Samsung who are supplying the ICS update, and not the XDA forums, hence Samsung are the people who will know if/when the update will be made available to India, and not the forum users - on the rare occassions that this information _is_ supplied by Samsung, it is even more rare that the information is reliable (i.e - almost never have their promised time-frames been met initially)
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+1
Nicely translated or rather in a nice way to bring the message across...
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knightnz said:
Translation:
As you're aware, it is Samsung who are supplying the ICS update, and not the XDA forums, hence Samsung are the people who will know if/when the update will be made available to India, and not the forum users - on the rare occassions that this information _is_ supplied by Samsung, it is even more rare that the information is reliable (i.e - almost never have their promised time-frames been met initially)
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I know very well that only Samsung gives upgrades and not xda forums but the purpose of starting this thread was to share information(I think that is more important than just downloading others roms from here) as I believe that here on this forum apart from people who simply can answer that only Samsung can give upgrades there are people who know a little more about latest announcements from companies so that they update fellow forum users....Hope this reply makes itself clear.....
India update may come only via Kies and not OTA. I was earlier contemplating the german ICS, but I have waited so long, whats a few days more.
Once the XDA ICS builds are stable, I will move to a custom kernel.
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I know very well that only Samsung gives upgrades and not xda forums but the purpose of starting this thread was to share information(I think that is more important than just downloading others roms from here) as I believe that here on this forum apart from people who simply can answer that only Samsung can give upgrades there are people who know a little more about latest announcements from companies so that they update fellow forum users....Hope this reply makes itself clear.....
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I beg to defer!
Firstly u mentioned of starting this thread was to share information?? wat kinda info u wanna share when your thread topic is " [Q] "
U mean a question = sharing of information? i doubt so...
i had been browsing the forum and 8 out of 10 are indians from india asking abt ETA of ICS, when will India get ICS updates blah blah blah....
Like what u had mentioned only Samsung able to give upgrades (official) therefore when they do have any update FOR your country, do not worry coz lotsa helpful seniors in here will start a thread on it...
To Mod,
kindly close this thread coz i doubt it will b fruitful by continuing with this discussion...
Thread closed
No one here can give ETAs - and one rule on XDA is do not ask for ETAs.
By the idea of @codeworkx and @skiflyer and maybe others.. here we go!
i take the lead deciding that in a month all of us will spam samsung's twitter / FB / mail.
I'm giving a month so this grow up and more and more people join!!!!!!!!
Please lets do it! note the data in your calendar, fridge, toilet paper... but don't forget it!
Good luck
Honestly, I think it's useless and too late. They don't care of a 2 year phone.
By the way, wish you good luck and success. I quit the Sammie community since my s2 hit the floor few minutes ago. Nexus, here am I.
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Honestly, I think it's useless and too late. They don't ca
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trying will not harm u... if each one of us snd a tweet and post something on their facebook page... it will have some impact since those places are public
IMO
Sure. If you can prevent only one customer to buy their ****s, that will be a small victory.:good: but don't expect the sources. I don't know if you are aware of the full story between Sammie and CM devs but quite everything has been made to get these sources and what we finally got is the devs have flown away from Samsung devices...
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Sure. If you can prevent only one customer to buy their ****s, that will be a small victory.:good: but don't expect the sources. I don't know if you are aware of the full story between Sammie and CM devs but quite everything has been made to get these sources and what we finally got is the devs have flown away from Samsung devices...
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i know some of it...
what i know is that codeworkx stated that we may have a chance if a large mass of people spam and show that they are unhappy
This was months ago... After this codeworx message, we started to flood their social medias, we've got source promise for end of 2012, we've got pure crap and definitive break between devs and Samsung.
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Kaiserbenn said:
This was months ago... After this codeworx message, we started to flood their social medias, we've got source promise for end of 2012, we've got pure crap and definitive break between devs and Samsung.
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did knew about that..
well... mods-> please delete this thread
Edit: people are joining... Let it roll
Kaiserbenn said:
This was months ago... After this codeworx message, we started to flood their social medias, we've got source promise for end of 2012, we've got pure crap and definitive break between devs and Samsung.
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and therefore we have to give up? look. what did samsung as they found out that thousands of people resetted their custom binary count with the USB jig? right, the built a new bootloader (a year ago, for gingerbread) - therefore: if enough people do something (either good or bad), they will react.
this has to be really big, that over 100.000 of people try it. we are on android, android is linux, linux is open source and we are samsung's customers. they just have to publish that damn code, nothing more.
but if just some cry, nothing will happen. i'm quite active on XDA, so why didn't i read anything of this "flooding" months ago?
let's make another try. then we can at least say that we tried quite much.
choose a date, and spread it all over the xda forums.
Could you provide all twitter, fb and g+ samsung accounts?
yes we shouldn't give up on this i am sooo in +1
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and therefore we have to give up? look. what did samsung as they found out that thousands of people resetted their custom binary count with the USB jig? right, the built a new bootloader (a year ago, for gingerbread) - therefore: if enough people do something (either good or bad), they will react.
this has to be really big, that over 100.000 of people try it. we are on android, android is linux, linux is open source and we are samsung's customers. they just have to publish that damn code, nothing more.
but if just some cry, nothing will happen. i'm quite active on XDA, so why didn't i read anything of this "flooding" months ago?
let's make another try. then we can at least say that we tried quite much.
choose a date, and spread it all over the xda forums.
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They published the kernel sources... But not the closed driver ones...
They were topics on our fight against samsung in all the exynos device forum, s2, s3... "Push Samsung to release source code"
BTW, I hope you will succeed.:good:
Kaiserbenn said:
They published the kernel sources... But not the closed driver ones...
They were topics on our fight against samsung in all the exynos device forum, s2, s3... "Push Samsung to release source code"
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i know. i just want that many people animate even more people, to reanimate this project. the first try just shows us that we didn't do that much to bring sammy to their knees.
Bruaca said:
Could you provide all twitter, fb and g+ samsung accounts?
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Hell yeah! I will search the links so that in this day we all spam them
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yes we shouldn't give up on this i am sooo in +1
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skiflyer said:
choose a date, and spread it all over the xda forums.
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Does somebody now the top people pn xda? They.could make an artocle to xda news or even a little video to help spread!
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so far we are only 4 here maybe this should become a stickey as a cause
Twitter
Accounts:
SamsungUK
SamsungBrasil
SamsungExynos
SamsungMobile
Hashtags:
#galaxys4
#Exynos
More to come...
Samsung was like "yeah they will cry,beg and spam for it once and then forget about it and move on"
I think we should prove them wrong and just try the whole thing once again!
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Guys, you can count on me.As someone said , we have to share this thread to : S3, Note 1, Note 2, Some tablets. We have to show , that community is something !
This is PM wich i sent to Portal Writer
Hey!
At first, I'd like to sorry for wrong ( incorrect?) title. I came from Samsung Galaxy S2 Forum ( GTI9100 ), and we got a little request. Since few days, we're trying to wake up S2 (S3 , Note Family and whole Exynos CPU 4, 5 in near future if this request is going to work ) community beacuse of no source code.As you may know, Samsung promised us Source Codee over 6/9 months ago, but still no sight of cooperation. We allready started ( again...) spaming Samsung on social medias like FB , Twitter, G+, but for now it's like 5/10 guys wich care about that.After i write that message , I want to talk with people from other Exynos devices.So , could You write an article about this case , or just share these links
LINK1 LINK2
Thanks in name of cumunity and myself for any help!
I have also sent PM on Fb to pocketnow
Well im not getting Samsung at my next upgrade for sure....
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jr866gooner said:
Well im not getting Samsung at my next upgrade for sure....
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im selling my s2 in an hour and getting a nexus 4...
but i will still help u with this!
loved my journey with my s2 since january 2013
Can we make a worldwide Petion to have the sources of the I9500 ?
Good idea we should do it
But I don't know if we can
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Not sure if we will be able to make enough noise, but for sure we won't if we don't try, so I am in
¡¡So say we all!! from Battlestar GT-I9500
I am whit you.I haw i9505 but I love i9500 thx
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Exynos didn't listen on the s3...
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join
support your idea :good:
Hey at least we can try! I am definitely in.
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Im in
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So where do we start?
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People have tried that loads of times with Exynos 4. It's pointless.
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Samsung didn't care about the S2 petition, they didn't care about the S3 petition. What makes you think they'll care now? They have their billions of dollars, their millions of continuous buyers not caring the least what's inside their Samsungs.
Theshawty said:
Samsung didn't care about the S2 petition, they didn't care about the S3 petition. What makes you think they'll care now? They have their billions of dollars, their millions of continuous buyers not caring the least what's inside their Samsungs.
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Tell me about it...they can try... but I didnt think samsung will listen... ive sign many petitions but none of it works
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what is the purpose of having sources code? what have devs already had nowadays (in case i9500)? i see theres a lot of custom rom for i9500.
just asking
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I suggest you guys dampen down the enthusiasm for this reason.............This exact same scenario was played out for the s3, it caused huge amounts of friction, had senior moderators crawling all over the thread and eventually it got locked anyway.......reason?.............it was damaging relationships between XDA and Samsung due to some extremely distasteful spamming of Samsung sites.
You are dealing with an Asian culture that values respect and manners far more than most European countries.....and many people forgot that.
Also the number of people that care about source code is minimal compared to the general sales figures, so a flea bite from a few developers really won't make an impression.
If you wanted development you should have bought the Snapdragon......simple research would have shown you that....(yes,I appreciate you have to have exynos in some countries....such is life)
This is just a bit of food for thought from prior experience....... and to hopefully help try and avoid the repeat of what has happened in the past which resulted in several infractions,a lot of bad feeling and general carnage.
Ps. Don't shoot the messenger
MeThinks Samsung is going the iPhone way in keeping the phone at its STOCK best. They do not want anyone tinkering with the phone, hence they are not releasing the Sources.
The reason is best known to Samsung and seeing the futile efforts in S2 & S3, we dunno if it will bear fruitful results.
If you wanna get everything ready then get I9505/I9505G and pretend to be a cool developer by exercising in compiling. You can toss icons and pictures to make your own "unique" CM or AOSP
If you wanna get something to mess with and be a real developer - buy I9500 and make CM/AOSP through good old hacking like it was with SGS2 and SGS3.
I remember time of Windows Mobile where enthusiasts couldn't even think about source code. Some leaked datasheets were the best additions for hacking. IDAPro and Hex Editors were best friends. Today, if you have no source code then it's full stop.
Theshawty i've read your reply before. You totally misunderstood what i've said. I fully respect to team hacksung and to what they did. They refused to explore Octa SoC and it's their decision. But the original idea behind device hacking remains the same - if you are interesting to make something new - then you will try anyway.
Compiling AOSP which already works on I9505 - not interesting and boring - everyone can do this.
sorg said:
If you wanna get everything ready then get I9505/I9505G and pretend to be a cool developer by exercising in compiling. You can toss icons and pictures to make your own "unique" CM or AOSP
If you wanna get something to mess with and be a real developer - buy I9500 and make CM/AOSP through good old hacking like it was with SGS2 and SGS3.
I remember time of Windows Mobile where enthusiasts couldn't even think about source code. Some leaked datasheets were the best additions for hacking. IDAPro and Hex Editors were best friends. Today, if you have no source code then it's full stop.
Theshawty i've read your reply before. You totally misunderstood what i've said. I fully respect to team hacksung and to what they did. They refused to explore Octa SoC and it's their decision. But the original idea behind device hacking remains the same - if you are interesting to make something new - then you will try anyway.
Compiling AOSP which already works on I9505 - not interesting and boring - everyone can do this.
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+1, oh dear WM... very closed source..
sorry, android newbie here.
how can samsung not release the sources? isn't it obligated by GPL?
haksancan said:
sorry, android newbie here.
how can samsung not release the sources? isn't it obligated by GPL?
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Only the kernel is. They can do whatever they wish with the sources and documentation for their SoC.
mourabena said:
Can we make a worldwide Petion to have the sources of the I9500 ?
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Hmm... the petition was not successful in case of S2... another petition was not successful in case of S3... but who knows, maybe if you ask not for petition but petion, Samsung perhaps would disclose the cernel sorse kode?
Not sure if this type of thing is permitted, but here goes.
I've posted a note to Samsung on my blog to try and get them to include support for the new Camera 2 API in the Lollipop update for, at least, the Note 4 and S5. Sharing on FB, Twitter and tagging Samsung is the easiest way to try to get them to hear users.
An Open Letter to Samsung
It is too late for the S5 as updates have already been release...same thing for the Note 4. I didn't fully look at your letter, but perhaps state for future updates because the current is already done.
I don't have my Lollipop update yet. Regardless of whether it's the first update to Android 5 or subsequent is irrelevant. The point is that Samsung should support the Camera 2 API.
There are companies that do listen to their customers. And it's not unheard of for a company to change direction if enough of its customers express a desire for (or against) something.
I have seen it posted in the International Forum that "it's there but switched off". I'm sure we will see it in a future update.
I dont get all the negativity. If you don't want to help, don't reply and move on.
KingBeef said:
I have seen it posted in the International Forum that "it's there but switched off". I'm sure we will see it in a future update.
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It's not there because Samsung doesn't use camera2 api. They made their own because Google still sucks at it.
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To all in this thread, post respectfully... Or Do Not Post.......easy
To the OP, Trying to use the camera2 is not as easy as it sounds, Remember, updates also need to be downwardly compatible, that makes enacting something much harder, or buggier.
So, couple that with then having all supporting app devs to adjust or modify their apps to work with it...... just not as simple as releasing a new feature or update.....
Ok people, please be kind when posting, be respectful thanks ~~~ oka1