Samsung just launched a new processor line up called Exynos5 Octa the story is still developing but the following are some details that are out
Samsung unveiled a brand new processor that will power its future mobile devices. Dubbed “Exynos5 Octa,” the new chip features two sets of four cores and a 28nm process that will eventually drop down to 10nm in the coming years. The chipset provides significant performance enhancements over Samsung’s previous-generation quad-core Exynos processor, which is now found in more than 53 million mobile devices. The company also said that the new Exynos5 Octa has a power-saving mode that helps improve battery life by reducing consumption when devices are idling and in other situations where full processing power is not required.
So between Exynos 5 Quad which is an A15 32nm chip that's supposed to be used in the SGS4, Krait v3 which is 15% faster version of S4 Pro, and now Octa, Nvidia may as well pack up their marbles and go home.
For geeks, here's some details on Exynos 5 which is Samsung's current "state of the art."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6148/samsung-announces-a15malit604-based-exynos-5-dual
And S4 Pro
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Here's some disucssion of Teg4 from a chip forum. People who do chips for a living aren't impressed; especially with the GPU.
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6224
Watch out. Demandarin might come around and tell us how great the Tegra 4 is Youg looks good, I wonder if it will be involved in devices before August 2013
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8 cores..wow...overkill.
It wasnt long ago (less than a year?) That reviewers were stating quad core is abit of a gimmich right now on phones and tabs etc.
Im all for it ofcourse..but wow 8 cores
The 8 cores will be device into 2 sub 4 cores - 1 sub 4 core will be an A7 1.2GHZ quadcore processor for lighter task and the second sub core will be 4 core A15 1.6GHZ of above quadcore processor.
The same will be built on 28 NM technology and later 10 NM technology over a period of time.
Again these are not confirmed specs
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Sets the bar at 2GHz
KOREAN HARDWARE GIANT Samsung has announced its latest processor, the Exynos 5250 that is based on the ARM Cortex A15 design.
The dual-core processor is designed for high-end tablets and will run at 2GHz. It is fabbed on a 32nm process and is set to appear in devices in the second half of 2012.
"The ARM Cortex-A15 brings unparalleled performance to our Exynos processor family and the exploding mobile marketplace," said Dojun Rhee, VP of system LSI marketing at Samsung. "The advanced low-power, high-performance processor technology of the new Exynos 5250 continues to deliver an unprecedented level of performance for users to enjoy a completely new mobile experience."
Samsung claims the new chip can process nearly twice the number of instructions per second as the ARM 1.5GHz Cortex A9 chip. The Exynos 5250 will be able to support up to 2560x1600 resolution displays and will have four times the graphics capabilities of the Cortex A9.
To support this high resolution the chip has a doubled memory bandwidth of 12.8GB/s compared to existing chips, which also aids data processing speed. To help with power efficiency the Exynos 5250 also has an embedded Displayport (EDP) interface that is compatible with panel self-refresh technology (PSR). It allows a static image on the screen to be refreshed from a memory buffer instead of using processor cycles. µ
Source: The Inquirer
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If that chip is in the Galaxy Note 2.....
I will never turn it off.
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Exciting news, just as fun as way back when when following dual core PC chips move to quad core and the drool factor they had. I personally hope ARM keeps up this arms race so fast that x86 never has a chance...
Low cost, low power, high performance, small footprint.
This time next year is really going to be exciting...
Just when I had started enjoying my Galaxy Note :|
Its second half of 2012, long time till then.
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Eight cores, in a mobile processor? Balderdash! But according to EETimes, that's just what Samsung's planning on unveiling in February at the International Solid-State Circuits Conference (that sounds so exciting).
Now before you get too excited, this isn't - technically speaking - an eight-core processor. It's a dual quad-core, which is to say, a two-processor chip. The design is based on a reference architecture thought up by ARM themselves, dubbed "big.little," and is designed to combine the light-load battery life of a high-efficiency quad-core 28nm ARM A7 chip with a super-hi-po A15 processor for heavy lifting. The exact specifications, for our nerdier readers, are: 1 quad-core ARM A7 chip clocked at 1.2GHz for everyday tasks, and 1 quad-core ARM A15 chip clocked at 1.8GHz w/ 2MB L2 cache for processor-intensive tasks like video games.
ARM itself has said the "big.little" project is delivering benefits beyond those expected when the architecture was initially announced, and Samsung's chip should be the first on the market based on the concept. So yes, this will be a new Exynos of some sort.
Should you expect this chip in the Galaxy S IV (or whatever Samsung's going to call it - because that's far from a given)? It's possible, but not necessarily likely. The gap between chip announcement and tape-out (mass-production readiness) can be lengthy. With the first batch of Exynos 5 Dual devices just now hitting the market in the form of the new Samsung Chromebook and Nexus 10, this eight-core beast may not be ready in time for the next "next big thing." Samsung could very well specifically be targeting this chip for Chromebooks and Windows RT / Android tablets before taking a dive into smaller form factors, too.
Either way, it's exciting business - I can't say I ever tire of technology getting faster.
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to be honest lately i have started to lose interest in Samsung due to the whole exynos issue and lack of support for developers but if this is to be true then i feel comfortable in making my next device a Samsung (only with this chip ovcourse) lets hope we see this chip come to more devices if it is infact released we will have to wait and see what samsung brings us in 2013 to decide if our loyalty to samsung is acctually worth it
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What relavance to the S3 does this have??? Nothing. Keep it in the General section not the S3 General section...
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Not excited. Most apps today are optimized for single and dual cores, rarely on quad. And now octal??
Well if you read its not a true 8 core processor. It is two CPU's both quad core. One being an A15 @1.8GHz and the other an A7 @1.2GHz
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Yes and Intel working on a 48 core chip.
Also it doesn't matter if the application you are running isn't designed for multi cores, most of the time this isn't even possible. People are still forgetting that one application isn't EVERYTHING that runs on a CPU, there are a lot of processes that run at the same time and thus benefit from multi core architecture.
Someone please move this useless thread.
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b-eock said:
Well if you read its not a true 8 core processor. It is two CPU's both quad core. One being an A15 @1.8GHz and the other an A7 @1.2GHz
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It's still a octa-core if you want to be anal about the definition, one of the hacks in kernels with this device SoC will be to run all cores in asymmetric multiprocessor modes.
But anyway the timing coincides with the 5450 rumors we've been hearing. Either they have two discrete quad A15 SoCs or they're both the same thing.
AndreiLux said:
It's still a octa-core if you want to be anal about the definition, one of the hacks in kernels with this device SoC will be to run all cores in asymmetric multiprocessor modes.
But anyway the timing coincides with the 5450 rumors we've been hearing. Either they have two discrete quad A15 SoCs or they're both the same thing.
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Wow that sounds super exciting. Great piece of info. Now its time for google to really optimize android for multi core processors
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sfjuocekr said:
Yes and Intel working on a 48 core chip.
Also it doesn't matter if the application you are running isn't designed for multi cores, most of the time this isn't even possible. People are still forgetting that one application isn't EVERYTHING that runs on a CPU, there are a lot of processes that run at the same time and thus benefit from multi core architecture.
Someone please move this useless thread.
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The 48 core chip intel now intel has started as a multi core gpu , they started designing it as larabee gpu which later turned into the product which is released right now .sadly its not destined for desktop but for high performance computing.
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The future generation Samsung processors looks like to be beast an 8 core processor for a tablet or a mobile is from a scifi movie
please read this article to find out more
Samsung's processor design team has been on a roll with fast chips this year with the Exynos 4 Quad and Exynos 5 Dual. Based on its agenda for the International Solid-State Circuits Conference, that momentum isn't about to stop. A company presentation at the event on February 19th will delve into a new heterogeneous, 8-core processor that relies on ARM's concept of big.LITTLE computing: one half is a quad-core, 1.8GHz ARM Cortex-A15 that will do all the heavy lifting, while the other is a quad 1.2GHz Cortex-A7 that takes over in quieter moments. We don't know much more about the chip beyond the expected 28-nanometer manufacturing process, but it's easy to see a mobile chip that's fast without having to consume much energy in its downtime. Most of the mystery surrounds where Samsung will launch the processor first, rather than what it can do: the big.LITTLE chip would be most valuable in a smartphone, but a potentially large size could relegate it to tablets early on.
What do you all think?
CES: Samsung unveils an eight-core Exynos 5 smartphone chip
Hints at a superfast Samsung Galaxy S4 / Note 3
LAS VEGAS: KOREAN HARDWARE MAKER Samsung unveiled its eight-core Octa Exynos 5 processor at CES on Wednesday, which is likely to feature in its Galaxy S4 smartphone.
Making up for its lack of high profile announcements at this year's Las Vegas consumer electronics show today, Samsung unwrapped the eight-core chip designed for use in smartphones and tablets.
Samsung said that the Octa Exynos 5 chip is much faster than its previous processors including the Exynos 4, and boasts much lower power consumption. That's because the chip is split into two sets of quad-core processors that both use ARM's new Big.little processor technology, pairing an energy efficient ARM Cortex A7 chip with a more powerful Cortex A15 multicore chip.
According to Samsung, the chip is faster than its Exynos 5 dual-core chip that features in the Google Nexus 10 - presently the fastest Android handset available on the market today, and claims it will bring a new level of processing power to mobile devices. It said that this chip will also bring a much more impressive gaming experience to its next generation mobile products, and will easily handle HD media streaming.
That's not to say your next Samsung smartphone will have poor battery life though, as Samsung claimed the eight-core processor is up to 70 percent more energy efficient than its previous Exynos chips.
There's no word yet on when Samsung's eight-core Exynos 5 processor will start shipping, but we'll be very surprised if it doesn't appear in the firm's next generation Galaxy flagship smartphone. We're likely to hear more at the Mobile World Congress show in Barcelona next month.
The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1ydw8)
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Oh, you got octacore CPU and android still has to lag huehuehue
Optimization trouble
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Oh, you got octacore CPU and android still has to lag huehuehue
Optimization trouble
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Android does not lag one bit on Nexus 4 running AOSP!
But this is actually a Dual-Quad core with a powerful Quad Core Cortex A15 combined with Quad Core Battery efficient Cortex A7 and the cores get switched in terms of workload so it can save battery more that normal Quad Core processors.
8 cores sammy's killing it
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We will always love our quad-core Note II.
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It's gonna freaking rape the battery
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UtkarshGupta said:
It's gonna freaking rape the battery
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probably an 4000mAh+ battery
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It's gonna freaking rape the battery
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Don't be sure.
It has 4 low-power Cortex A7 cores to handle easy missions and save battery. Especially when screen is off.
Check out Tegra 3, only the 5th core is working when screen is off, and the battery barely goes down!!
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Android does not lag one bit on Nexus 4 running AOSP!
But this is actually a Dual-Quad core with a powerful Quad Core Cortex A15 combined with Quad Core Battery efficient Cortex A7 and the cores get switched in terms of workload so it can save battery more that normal Quad Core processors.
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Yeah but. Too many CPU, GPU etc., you need to adapt appz for it, you have sooo powerful hardware and you still can't use it properly. And we have tons of appz like Seeder to reduce lagz lol. I dont know appz which have adapt for quadcore except benchmarkz (ohh I can't undesrstand ppl who are using it) and gamez, but ROFL, simple Tapatalk doesnt have a smooth scrolling if you watch >20 topics.
Its a very huge disadvantage
IMHO.
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Talk about Jelly Bean's in-built support for Hardware Acceleration, lol
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Oh, you got octacore CPU and android still has to lag huehuehue
Optimization trouble
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I have an s3 and an iphone 4s. Guess which one lags?
s3 is the fastest smoothest phone/computing device I've ever used. period.
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I hope this has 3 modes
low power- 4 low power cores
high power- 4 high octane cores chomp away at tasks
balls to the wall-all 8 cores throw their testosterone at everything you a nb d the devs try and run, making mincemeat of the most powerhungry intense game or all liked it was running tetris lol can you imagine wielding such mobile processing power??
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It's power will be utilized when Ubuntu for Android!
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for those who dont know, here are some of the interesting facts.
* The Octa-core CPU has 8 Cores, 4 A15 cores and 4 A7 cores
* The A15 cores are tuned to perform better by sacrificing battery life, and A7 core is tuned to be more efficient while sacrificing performance
* Even though the A7 is less powerful than A15, it is more powerful than the Cortex A8 cpu found in last generation phones. Still it uses almost 1/10 the power of Cortex A8
* Exynos 5 can operate in two modes. big.Little and big.LITTLE MP mode.
* In normal big.LITTLE mode, only 4 cores (or less) will be active at a time. The OS will not be aware of the Low power cores (just like in Tegra 3)
* In big.LITTLE MP mode, the OS knows that the CPU have 8 cores. It can use all 8 cores at once if there is demand for it. (My understanding is that android will not support this mode as of now)
People need to realise something.
Samsung could make a processor with 100 a15s for the gs4. It wouldn't effect the battery a bit unless the software was configured that way.
Almost everything on a processor is now power gated in the silicone, meaning it can be switched on off at will. A power gated section literally draws ZERO power.
So 100 cores would make no difference if only 2 of them were ever really used. It's just the amount of money Samsung want to spend on the silicone (smaller chips have higher yields since there's less chance of defects affecting the chip).
The die size (the amount of silicone used) for the A7 is tiny. Depending on how smart Samsung is (and how much coffee we can feed to devs like Gokan and AndreiLux ) , we could be looking at a powerful, highly efficient chip. Considering we're also looking at shrinking from 32nm to 28nm for this the A15s themselves might not even draw too much juice. Arm said A15s would be sensible for smart phone use at good 28nm or normal 22nm production. And Samsung production right now is very 'good'
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Will note 3 and s4 feature this 8 core processor?
Most likely, yes. This was long over-due. The next big thing is probably already in development. If you have a Note 2 and you want to upgrade, wait for next year. The Note 2 is powerful enough and has excellent battery life, a very important factor to consider in today's mobile market.
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Will note 3 and s4 feature this 8 core processor?
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winlinmac001 said:
Most likely, yes. This was long over-due. The next big thing is probably already in development. If you have a Note 2 and you want to upgrade, wait for next year. The Note 2 is powerful enough and has excellent battery life, a very important factor to consider in today's mobile market.
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If this was th3 case, I would've stayed with s1. Actually I m love with samsung, I used every galaxy s and note series so I will update
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I was going to wait for the s5 to upgrade but if the s4 had this chip then it's defo worth the upgrade from s3
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This is Samsung's strategy in luring customers to buying a new device every year. The Exynos 5 chipset was made well over a year ago but wasn't employed in last years models. Guess what? Exynos 6 is already in development. Lol. :silly:
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I was going to wait for the s5 to upgrade but if the s4 had this chip then it's defo worth the upgrade from s3
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All that power and no apps to utilize it. All those power and bad UI to go along with it. What wasted potential. Maybe in two year's time devs will start utilizing quad core processors and 16 cores will be the flagship standard. It's a shame Android is so fragmented.
Samsung has just announced an enhanced version of its Exynos 5 Octa chipset.
Currently the Octa chipset is available only on the I9500 Galaxy S4 flagship.
The second generation Exynos 5 Octa might be called Exynos Evolved and it will be more powerful, enhanced Exynos 5 Octa".
Speculation calls for the new chip to be the Samsung Exynos 5420 and will feature a higher clock speed along with improved optimization for the 8 integrated cores.
Stay tuned for more news next week:highfive:
They really shouldn't call it octa cores and it doesn't have a solid 8 cores. It has a 4x2 core structure.. With two solid four core processors, not one eight core one.
Wrong forum,It's galaxy S3 forum section,Exynos 4 not 5.
Theshawty said:
They really shouldn't call it octa cores and it doesn't have a solid 8 cores. It has a 4x2 core structure.. With two solid four core processors, not one eight core one.
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It has 8 cores inside it, might as well call it octa
Glebun said:
It has 8 cores inside it, might as well call it octa
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Agreed. Read here The HMP processing does require all the 8 cores available online.
Misconception #6: Yes the CPU is a true 8-core processor. It's just not being used a such in its initial software implementations
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More from Andrei:
AndreiLux said:
The to-be-announced new processor is the 5420, it's not a new revision of the 5410. It has the same target clocks as the 5410 but with a properly working CCI to be able to use GTS, and the GPU is replaced with a new generation Mali T62X instead of the SGX 544. It also has some other miscellaneous updates like VP9 encoder/decoder. It'll debut in the new Chromebook this fall.I already know the differences. In any case - it's not useful in regard to the 5410.
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Thread has nothing to do with s3
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