I didn't notice this problem at first and I think it has gotten worse with time. I mostly noticed it while playing ingress. Sometimes it will be perfectly exact as far as location, grabs a gps link fast, etc. Lately, it does normal when I am near the portal, but if I ever have to go inside a building I lose signal. I compared my Nexus 4 to my wife's Samsung Galaxy Blaze 4g last night at home sitting on my couch next to a window and her phone smoked mine. I'm trying to decide if I should RMA the device and hope to get one with a better GPS, or if all of them have issues. I'm using the app GPS Test. Could anyone else try this and see what kind of results you get?
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I didn't notice this problem at first and I think it has gotten worse with time. I mostly noticed it while playing ingress. Sometimes it will be perfectly exact as far as location, grabs a gps link fast, etc. Lately, it does normal when I am near the portal, but if I ever have to go inside a building I lose signal. I compared my Nexus 4 to my wife's Samsung Galaxy Blaze 4g last night at home sitting on my couch next to a window and her phone smoked mine. I'm trying to decide if I should RMA the device and hope to get one with a better GPS, or if all of them have issues. I'm using the app GPS Test. Could anyone else try this and see what kind of results you get?
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Hi. I understand your question and i don't have a strait answer but a few ideas.
First of all, the samsung device can have the same gps-"reception" but show that it has more... newer devices often show worse number because they don't exaggerate the results, as a precaution so i doesn't show wrong location.
Second, the Samsung can have a better A-GPS, GPS and so on, because it's allot of more other things that have to fit inside the Nexus 4.
Third, the samsung can "steal" the signal if they are close together and have "priority".
Fourth, do the phones have the same distributor? Here in Sweden the A-GPS is based on what serviceprovider you have and some of them are better than others.
We have good GPS-reception here in Stockholm but only get GPS-signal if you're lucky near the window. But outside or in a car it's great.
Hope i helped a little....
I work for a GPS module manufacturer in the finance department (I’m not an engineer by any means), however our marketing does indicate differences between GPS modules used in phones. With that said, it’s definitely possible to have better single strength on one device vs. another depending on the parts that are used. Some modules are geared toward power efficiency, while other modules are advertised for their performance and accuracy. In many circumstances, there are tradeoffs for efficiency and I’m sure this is the case with GPS modules. With that said, I compared my Nexus 4 to my Galaxy S2 and I found that the nexus took a little longer to lock onto a satellite when standing outside. I just tried my indoor performance but I couldn’t lock onto a location. As I’m sure you are aware, GPS isn’t designed for the indoors, so you should expect some issues. I’m confident that your phone is operating properly and swapping it out might be overkill. I’m not trying to talk you out of swapping your device, but you might receive a replacement device that has more issues than the one you are returning. Not to *****, but my RMA device has a bad USB port and an ugly yellow screen. The first device I received had a really sharp blue color and no light bleeding, however the vibrating function didn’t work. I would trade having no vibrating function for the ability to properly charge my phone.
The company I am employed by does not manufacture modules for LG and does not manfucture modules for Samsung, so i have no technical specs to pull for you.
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Hi all,
I don't know if this will help anyone but it seems to have resolved my GPS issues on the I9000 running stock JPO (with z4root and OCLF).
Prior to this workaround, my GPS was crap and I was about to give up on it. Also, it was fine when I upgraded to JPO initially and then got worse after a few days and then became totally unusable. Note that I am not on any mobile plan (just prepaid calls) so I do not have AGPS assist at all.
I saw this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6QnNMxuCig&feature=related which mentions that you can use GPSStatus to update the AGPS info on the I9000.
Not expecting much I tired the AGPS update and to my surprise my GPS is now working like a dream, I get locks within 10 seconds and the tracking now works! I tried tracking in a bus where I am seated near a window and it works 100% (it was raining hard as well). This did not work at all before. BTW, I used CoPilot for the tracking test.
So updating the AGPS does help and also might explain why my GPS worked after the JPO upgrade and then deteriorated over time.
Anyway I hope this help someone coz it worked for me
Please. Even orange has admitted the gps problem and agreed to exchange it for me...
There's no point doing this type of setting. A good gps should be working without too many complicated settings.
A-GPS is assisted GPS and uses the network to get better/faster fixes. Get out of the city and you'll find out your GPS is probably just as bad.
The Nexus S was delayed due to hardware problems. Once the hardware was fixed and the phone was passed through the FCC again guess what part was changed? The bluetooth, WIFI and GPS atennas.
Schmich said:
A-GPS is assisted GPS and uses the network to get better/faster fixes. Get out of the city and you'll find out your GPS is probably just as bad.
The Nexus S was delayed due to hardware problems. Once the hardware was fixed and the phone was passed through the FCC again guess what part was changed? The bluetooth, WIFI and GPS atennas.
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yeah i read this on engadget few days ago was about to start new thread on it glad i seen your comments first. orange do know about the gps issues but still samsung is quiet on the issue. After slagging off apple about there antenna issues i highly doubt they will ever admit to the antenna's being the sole cause of gps / wifi issues alot people are reporting. if this is not the case then why re-design new ones? samsung you dirty rats this is my last samsung phone ill ever own!.
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yeah i read this on engadget few days ago was about to start new thread on it glad i seen your comments first. orange do know about the gps issues but still samsung is quiet on the issue. After slagging off apple about there antenna issues i highly doubt they will ever admit to the antenna's being the sole cause of gps / wifi issues alot people are reporting. if this is not the case then why re-design new ones? samsung you dirty rats this is my last samsung phone ill ever own!.
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That letter would make an epic forum signature for GalaxyS owners... an all time reminder.
What exactly is this GPS problem I wonder if i have it .
jje
it takes the biscuit this forum I posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855541 yesterday and every body said it proves nothing all I can say is thanks as it proves it can't be fixed
Strange that some work and some dont. I've used Google nav and co-pilot since August on a daily basis without ANY issues.
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Well if it's a hardware problem it can't be an issue with all Galaxy S phones. Mine seems to work pretty well even from the ground floor of my 2 story home.
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Strange that some work and some dont. I've used Google nav and co-pilot since August on a daily basis without ANY issues.
Thats why i asked what the problem was mine seems ok .
So if its a hardware problem then its either a part like aerial so why should my aerial be ok and others not . Or it could be a bad connection on the board that would be more likely as its poor GPS not across the board on all sets .
jje
You know how sometimes when ur bored u simply open a browser and start searching for more reasons to fall in love with ur new gadget?
Let's see if that helps
-> http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s624273
No idea why this wasn't. . well more advertised but indeed I get the fastest (and most stable) GPS fixes i ever had.
Just sharing the joy. .
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You know how sometimes when ur bored u simply open a browser and start searching for more reasons to fall in love with ur new gadget?
Let's see if that helps
-> http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s624273
No idea why this wasn't. . well more advertised but indeed I get the fastest (and most stable) GPS fixes i ever had.
Just sharing the joy. .
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GLONASS support and fast GPS fix is well know...
Since it works so well, no one cares to complain ( like in SGS ) and less know.
You r right. GPS fix is fastest that i have ever seen. Way better than my garmin devices. Even on a cloudy day
GPS lock is insanely fast on this device. Samsung did a great job on this Peabody.
Barometer.
barometer can only make a difference in the altitude readings ( how high you are ) Broadcom states that the Note can use data from twice as many satellites than, let's say, GS2. And as winnie the pooh said: The more - the mucher
I can't wait to finally have good GPS again. My Captivate actually isn't too bad - for a Captivate. Having come from a Garmin iQue 3600, however, I have been very frustrated with it.
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GPS lock is insanely fast on this device. Samsung did a great job on this Peabody.
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Peabody - I can't believe you said that. I wonder how many will get the reference?
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barometer can only make a difference in the altitude readings ( how high you are ) Broadcom states that the Note can use data from twice as many satellites than, let's say, GS2. And as winnie the pooh said: The more - the mucher
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Altitude has always been an issue with GPS. Garmin came out with an aviation 3600 that sold well, but the standard GPS measuring tools are better on the horizontal plane, rather than the vertical, it will be interesting to see how this has advanced.
bahkata said:
You know how sometimes when ur bored u simply open a browser and start searching for more reasons to fall in love with ur new gadget?
Let's see if that helps
-> http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s624273
No idea why this wasn't. . well more advertised but indeed I get the fastest (and most stable) GPS fixes i ever had.
Just sharing the joy. .
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BCM47511 chipset? I was hoping the Note would have the SirfstarIV chipset...
But seems to be everybody is happy with the Note's Gps performance anyway so....it's all good..
Gonna get my Note in January....it's about time to make new gps videos...
The ones on my sign is from my sgs's eclair times
I can confirm the incredible quick fix of the Note'GPS: the best one I ever had .
Even the sensitivity is great. I just tried now to fix with the phone inside the apartment. It took 8 seconds for a cold fix while other phones or gps system were not even able to get a fix (including my previous GS II) .
In the car it takes +/- 5 seconds for a cold fix. In the past I could start driving for sometime while waiting for the gps fix in other phones or GPS system.
I'm fully satisfied with the note gps.
Some of you are going to say 'that's old news', but for the benefit of people like myself who maybe missed it at the time, I'm going to reiterate from something which was brought up a long time ago in the xda forums, found by accident in posts from a year or two ago.
There's this thing called fast dormancy. It's like a network power saving feature, which some networks don't support, and I found a lot of people saying that when disabled, can actually help battery life on 3G. I'm not going to go into that now, if you want more info Google it..
So it was as simple as adding a line into your build prop. "ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule" with a value of "0" and rebooting.
I wasn't expecting much, but did it just for the hell of it. I've not really used my 3G data much since I did this about 4 hours ago, but I left my data switched on, which is usually enough to drain the battery a bit anyway, I'd expect to lose 7 or 8 percent normally just being connected to data. Just checked battery drain. Hasn't moved 1%??!?! UPDATE: It is still using a bit, but definitely seems better.
Also..... I've speed tested my data many times before. Usually in my house, from sitting in the same chair, in the same room, I always get say 2Mb plus or minus 0.5 Mb. Well guess what. I ran a speed test and got 5.5Mb!!! So I ran a few more and it never went below 4Mb.
Can someone please shed some light on wtf is going on here? lol
Edit: just ran another speed test. 5.26 down, 1.25 up. Something has changed here, I'm telling you. Maybe o2 have switched on a new mast right outside my window ( just kidding, there's no new masts, because there's a mast fairly close to me, I know where it is)... I've ran loads of these tests with the same phone, same network, same room, and same ROM before, and never got half of the speeds that I'm consistently hitting now. Maybe the network has been upgraded or something and its just coincidental, that wouldn't explain why my battery life on 3G does seem to be improved though..
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Anybody else fancy running a speed test, adding the line into your build prop, then rebooting, trying another speed test, and checking out your 3G battery life as well?
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Tried it but unfortunately no noticeable difference in my case (on KPN network in NL). Thanks for the suggestion tho!
No problem. Maybe there has been some kind of improvement made to my network then. After having a think about it, if I am now getting a much better signal than I was it would actually explain the increase in speed (obviously), but also it may explain the battery life increase too due to my phone not hunting for a signal as much.
That's why I was wanting someone else to try, so thanks. I didn't realise it was possible in the real world to get 5.5 megabits from HSDPA. I wonder what the theoretical maximum is from it, and the real world maximum..
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Tried it but unfortunately no noticeable difference in my case (on KPN network in NL). Thanks for the suggestion tho!
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Why people buy phones with disgustingly crap batteries? Because manufacturers make them and people just accept it?
I am sick of hearing about phones weights differences in few grams, (our phone is thinner by 1 mm!!! -how sad) , about screens quality, about processors speeds, etc, and on.. Just because this is where all attention is?
What is use of it all if then users have to carry chargers wherever they go, they have to disable network modes, tweak performance, buy and run monitoring softwear, a lots of hassle JUST BECAUSE those manufacturers are jerks! Like there is problem to give proper large battery option to chose and we will see how market reacts?
I got phone from China with larger battery than you can get on any European market and I am finally happy, I don't worry about anything anymore.
On purpose I set everything to look nice, bright, run fast and never worry about any tweaks unless I suspect unhappiness from performance being somehow compromised, I do play games, I do use internet, I do stream and do other things without fear of not having more power for a call I may need to make. At end of day I have still 50% which will last next day easily.
BATTERY IS CRUCIAL PART OF THE PHONE. MUST NOT BE REDUCED IN PERFORMANCE IN ANY WAY (reducing size).
This is why we have smartphones to do many things quickly at any time instead switch all those cool features off, like everyday life was emergency situation for saving battery -ON DAILY BASIS?
P.S. some brands thinks I will carry second battery with me like I have a pocket and good will to open my phone and swap batteries??? really??? or taking ugly external USB-battery, swinging on cable while I am using my phone or looking ugly like second half of nadset to damage my USB socket with a time and have a patience to keep it charged -like a second device?
How ridiculous...
Battery performance actually did advance with processing technology over the years. It's not just sheer capacity that tripled, but efficiency became better. A top-end phone of today easily has 10 times more performance than a smartphone of 4 years back with so much bigger and higher-res screen not to mention extra antennas and extra ongoing processes, yet when HW/SW is properly balanced, it can last the same full day. Samsung and HTC are doing it right lately while Apple is particularly power-efficient, to expect anything more there has to be a battery tech revolution.
Much bigger manufacturer BS is storage capacity. A 64GB module hardly costs more than $20 for them and all gadgets should start with that going up to 256GB, but at least HTC is skipping the 16GB variant and you get a healthy space for starting price. You see they can't really put significantly bigger battery in a phone where they could put more storage in it, they just don't want to.
Are you specifically moaning about the HTC one or just phones in general? The one, in reviews, has been shown to perform admirably.
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Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.
No.
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Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.
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hey - in all seriousness, i found what you need.
phone
it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years
you may believe I need your response more?
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it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years
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so why are you posting it in the HTC ONE FORUM
a phone that is not released, not thoroughly reviewed and YOU DO NOT OWN
by mistake, sorry.
however your replies were not even funny.
i suppose sure htc is not a leader regarding battery-exeperience
I just thought to myself.
How many people, actually appreciate how awesome this piece of hardware is, that they hold in their hand...... And yet the amount of moaning and whingeing that goes on on the web is ridiculous.
"Who wants an ir blaster in a phone.."
"This screen is a micron less thick..blah blah blah "
We should just sit back, relax and enjoy what we have now......
.....I'm guessing the marketing department wouldnt like that though...........
Don't believe the hype...
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Sure....
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Wut is this?
OP, please express yourself coherently.
Ok !
Initially I was trying to ignore the battery life and how long it takes to charge haha..
But you can't deny, it's about the average. But when you consider the screen and how the phone works, you can't expect an extra day's worth out of nowhere..
If this and the S4 are considered the best options for smartphones right now and the S4 really does gets a few more standby hours, I would still go with the HTC One.
I was thinking about this after playing with a friends S4... yeah its a slick device but nothing on the market feels as good as the One.
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I really do appreciate the fact that you're sitting here
Your voice sounds so wonderful, but your face don't look too clear.....
Cool story bro, tell it again
Posted in this strange thread because I need 10 posts to get into developer section...
out of the many many complaints about our phone you picked to use as examples, you choose two that i've never even heard of. screen thickness & people not wanting the IR blaster?
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I just thought to myself.
How many people, actually appreciate how awesome this piece of hardware is, that they hold in their hand...... And yet the amount of moaning and whingeing that goes on on the web is ridiculous.
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Whilst typically I can't help but say every argument has 2 sides, and it's foolish to say the HTC One doesn't have any floors, the fact that this device and similar ones exist certainly deserves a moment of appreciation.
I remember when I was 11, and I spent a full week optimizing what at the time was a relatively well maintained machine and removing loads of crap, overclocking my CPU + graphics, disabling literally everything and eventually I had enough space to install the just-released GTA3 on my computer. The installation itself felt like it took around an hour. Even on the lowest graphics settings I managed just to get 15fps and boy did it make my computer run hot!
Now I have a HTC One. Just one of it's cores is capable of 5 times more processing power than my crappy little AMD Duron had. Today I installed GTA3 on it in a matter of minutes and was playing it maximum settings at a frame rate that made it smooth as butter. And to top it all off, I can control every remote controlled device in my house with it AND it fits in my pocket.
On a forum where people are inherently pointing out every little area for improvement to get the best from their devices, I agree with OP that we should all take a minute to sit back and reflect on the awesomeness of the technology we're all in possession of right now.
We're living in the future.
Hoverboards and holodecks can't be that far away now.
Moderator Update.
Thread has been closed. As the thread is really a general off topic thread and not specifically to do with the HTC One it has been closed. There is a XDA off topic section were threads like this are better suited.