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Since there appears to be such conflicting reports about lag or lack there of; I think it would benefit us all if we start to list who is having lag and who isn't whilst including where you bought the phone etc....
so to those that are having lag, give us these details:
1.) where and when did you get the phone, including the color
2.) branded or unbranded
3.) look under the battery or where ever for serial numbers or manufacturing dates
4.) report what firmware (if possible) and what the "about android" says in the OS
5.) what you are perceiving to be slow and when it occurs
If you would like some other examples of "slowness" check out the comments here: http://www.pda-247.com/wordpress/2009/08/htc-hero-review-part-two/
Note that after some discussion, all parties involved are equally confused and can't understand the opposing experiences of the other. I would also like to see reports from those that haven't experienced any lag or nothing like what some of the laggers are experiencing. I think we are experiencing some manufacturing differences here that have yet to be documented or made certain. I suspect this is all due to sense UI but who knows for certain. Is it possible to have the G1 Hero rom installed on a stock hero? Perhaps the Hero rom that is mentioned the in the hero dev forum would help? In any event, we should really start compiling specifics in a single thread as nobody likes buyers remorse
Not geographical. Its about the way you use your phone.
Sawkes said:
Not geographical. Its about the way you use your phone.
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Fine. But it shouldn't be. If the phone is "just suppose to work" then there apparently still needs to be some optimization to account for the apparent excesses of others. I'm SURE it's JUST about what these people are doing...come on man, there has to be something else going on even if it is simply due to sense UI needing some optimization tweaks. You can't just toss away the experiences of many different folks (reviewers included) with the implication that the phone is not at all at fault for the negative reports.
I agree, I think there are variables we aren't considering. I think it comes down to the use of widgets and the amount of screens you have running, though I'm not totally sure.
I personally have not experienced any lag. I have a white sim free Hero, I use 3 screens, one with wifi, bluetooth, mobile data and gps widgets, a weather widget and a few icons. Another page has all icons, and the third has the bookmarks widget. I used to have the contacts widget on the second page and noticed no lag when using that either.
Once I tried to start up as many apps as I could to see if I experienced the lagginess people were talking about.... with no result. Still very slick.
What I don't have is a clock widget. I personally think it's useless when you have the time in the taskbar. I don't use a twitter widget either, but Peep seems to start itself sometimes.
That leads me to something else, I have apps which start themselves up spontaneously. Peep, Glympse, calendar for example.... they all show up in the task list (Taskiller) when I haven't used them. I've switched off any auto updates/ stay logged out etc. So that's a bit weird. That's part of the reason I'll use Taskiller maybe 4 or 5 times a day to kill everything running.
All in all I'm very happy and impressed with the useability of this device.
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I agree, I think there are variables we aren't considering. I think it comes down to the use of widgets and the amount of screens you have running, though I'm not totally sure.
I personally have not experienced any lag. I have a white sim free Hero, I use 3 screens, one with wifi, bluetooth, mobile data and gps widgets, a weather widget and a few icons. Another page has all icons, and the third has the bookmarks widget. I used to have the contacts widget on the second page and noticed no lag when using that either.
Once I tried to start up as many apps as I could to see if I experienced the lagginess people were talking about.... with no result. Still very slick.
What I don't have is a clock widget. I personally think it's useless when you have the time in the taskbar. I don't use a twitter widget either, but Peep seems to start itself sometimes.
That leads me to something else, I have apps which start themselves up spontaneously. Peep, Glympse, calendar for example.... they all show up in the task list (Taskiller) when I haven't used them. I've switched off any auto updates/ stay logged out etc. So that's a bit weird. That's part of the reason I'll use Taskiller maybe 4 or 5 times a day to kill everything running.
All in all I'm very happy and impressed with the useability of this device.
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Makes no damn sense to me and it's posts like this that make me think it isn't the software afterall....geez. I guess I'll just have to order one some time soon and cross my fingers that it really isn't hardware related.
Hey guys, just picked up my SGS and have had about 30mins playing with it (before I killed the battery...lol).
What should I get first?
For some reason I cant find Swype...I thought it was pre-installed in Samsung phones? Its not in the Samsung Apps App either.
Also, what do you recommend for testing the GPS? I am curious to see how bad it is.
Anyhow, just a real quick message to say, thanks for all your help over the past 2 weeks (and upcoming weeks).
For now it appears to be a kick ass phone.
djglenn1337 said:
Hey guys, just picked up my SGS and have had about 30mins playing with it (before I killed the battery...lol).
What should I get first?
For some reason I cant find Swype...I thought it was pre-installed in Samsung phones? Its not in the Samsung Apps App either.
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You can find many ways, these (sorry mine is in Finnish now, but...):
-> Messages -> New Message -> Push Write Message.. -> Input Method (something like that) -> Swype / Samsung Keyboard
-> Applications -> Settings -> Area and Text
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Also, what do you recommend for testing the GPS? I am curious to see how bad it is.
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From Android Market -> GPS Test
djglenn1337 said:
Anyhow, just a real quick message to say, thanks for all your help over the past 2 weeks (and upcoming weeks).
For now it appears to be a kick ass phone.
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Have a nice time with your phone. I have used mine two days now.
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You can find many ways, these (sorry mine is in Finnish now, but...):
-> Messages -> New Message -> Push Write Message.. -> Input Method (something like that) -> Swype / Samsung Keyboard
-> Applications -> Settings -> Area and Text
From Android Market -> GPS Test
Have a nice time with your phone. I have used mine two days now.
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GPS test is a nice thing to get the specs on the GPS (basically accuracy, your satellites in view and the # you are locked on). For testing GPS, in how it will affect your real world performance get My Tracks. Run my tracks and go for a: walk, jog, run, bike, car ride (whatever is closest to your hobbies and/or typical usage scenario). It will show you where you've been on a map, show places where your signal has dropped (if at all), shows you things like your speed and elevation (elevation is stated to be a good relative indication of indication, e.g. total ascent/descent, but not necessarily accurate to sea level).
Besides that, try out LauncherPro, see if you like it more than Touchwiz. I recommend caching your pages, to improve moving, however it will slow down adding new widgets and icons. In addition to LauncherPro I use QuickDesk (free IIRC) and Widget Locker (paid between .99-1.99 USD IIRC, if not probably confused with Quickdesk).
A weather widget can be cute and useful. Beautiful widgets is an extremely popular option (1.49 euro, IIRC, I use a free knock-off called WF & Clock Widget).
Power Control for a great one touch access to: wifi, bluetooth, gps, sync & brightness settings
Text-to-Speech TTS
QR scanner
PSXforDroid
Gesture Search (regular search is more powerful and might be more popular, not sure, I like gesture search)
Google Goggles
Wifi Analyzer
A business finding app, maybe: Foursquare, places directory, yelp or other.
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GPS test is a nice thing to get the specs on the GPS (basically accuracy, your satellites in view and the # you are locked on). For testing GPS, in how it will affect your real world performance get My Tracks. Run my tracks and go for a: walk, jog, run, bike, car ride (whatever is closest to your hobbies and/or typical usage scenario). It will show you where you've been on a map, show places where your signal has dropped (if at all), shows you things like your speed and elevation (elevation is stated to be a good relative indication of indication, e.g. total ascent/descent, but not necessarily accurate to sea level).
Besides that, try out LauncherPro, see if you like it more than Touchwiz. I recommend caching your pages, to improve moving, however it will slow down adding new widgets and icons. In addition to LauncherPro I use QuickDesk (free IIRC) and Widget Locker (paid between .99-1.99 USD IIRC, if not probably confused with Quickdesk).
A weather widget can be cute and useful. Beautiful widgets is an extremely popular option (1.49 euro, IIRC, I use a free knock-off called WF & Clock Widget).
Power Control for a great one touch access to: wifi, bluetooth, gps, sync & brightness settings
Text-to-Speech TTS
QR scanner
PSXforDroid
Gesture Search (regular search is more powerful and might be more popular, not sure, I like gesture search)
Google Goggles
Wifi Analyzer
A business finding app, maybe: Foursquare, places directory, yelp or other.
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Oh yeah, the rest of the Google Software Suite:
Google Earth
Google Voice Search (installed on most devices, but not all)
Google Maps (I think installed on all devices, but I can't remember), I also like brut mod that was developed at xda. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=brut+mod
Google Sky Map
Google Translate
Google Voice (if in the US)
Shopper (if you use Google Shopping)
Excellent guys, thanks for the great info!
I have got swype working, and have tried gps test.
On my first test the GPS inside my car seemed flakey...i.e first it found 8 sat's and locked onto 7, but then it suddenly dropped to 3, and then back upto 8.
I will have more of a play with it later.
First impressions are great! Phone really seems amazing, however I have noticed that the battery goes down very quick..
I had the phone fully charged this morning @ 07:00, and 1hr 20mins later I am down to 80%!
At this rate my phone will be dead in another 4 hours....
I also cannot seem to connect via the USB, just using mass storage.
I disabled the debugger, and selected mass storage, but the 2 files that show up in my computer just say that they are not accessible.
Any ideas?
You need to open the notification area at the top of the screen and tap on "USB Connected", then "Mount". Not quite sure why this isn't automatic when you've already selected "Mass Storage", but never mind!
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You need to open the notification area at the top of the screen and tap on "USB Connected", then "Mount". Not quite sure why this isn't automatic when you've already selected "Mass Storage", but never mind!
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You can also download "auto mount" from market to do that.
djglenn1337 said:
Excellent guys, thanks for the great info!
I have got swype working, and have tried gps test.
On my first test the GPS inside my car seemed flakey...i.e first it found 8 sat's and locked onto 7, but then it suddenly dropped to 3, and then back upto 8.
I will have more of a play with it later.
First impressions are great! Phone really seems amazing, however I have noticed that the battery goes down very quick..
I had the phone fully charged this morning @ 07:00, and 1hr 20mins later I am down to 80%!
At this rate my phone will be dead in another 4 hours....
I also cannot seem to connect via the USB, just using mass storage.
I disabled the debugger, and selected mass storage, but the 2 files that show up in my computer just say that they are not accessible.
Any ideas?
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Losing 20% on a (nearly) brand new battery after 1:20 minutes with the display running OR the GPS running is to be expected and probably better than average for the phone. If you have both running, well consider yourself to have some good battery life when having the phone idle and using more typical (? moderate is probably a better word) daily usage. The 4" screen will suck power, for instance if you are just reading without any processor intensive activities going on the display will cause over 80% of the battery drainage, running GPS/3G/wi-fi/backgrounding will drain the battery even faster though the display will be a smaller % of the drain.
I think even a fully conditioned battery should last about 5 hours with the display, GPS and 3G on all at the same time. Not quite sure as I'm just unwilling to torture my battery like that.
As far as the files go, I assume you actually mean "folders", the 2 drives that it says are available from "My computer" with new drive names. One of these is the expandable storage, and you won't be able to access it until you insert an SD card into your phone. The other will be accessible after you properly install and mount the device.
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You need to open the notification area at the top of the screen and tap on "USB Connected", then "Mount". Not quite sure why this isn't automatic when you've already selected "Mass Storage", but never mind!
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Samsung drivers are miserable to install. In my experience, it might just be my firmware, after you get them installed you don't have to deal with the mounting thing. Am I wrong? Initially, I had the same issue, but maybe I am mis-attributing the resolution.
Dont listen to any of these guys here ... u got ur sgs ... now secure your phone. Whether it be the built in security app that can only be used in asia or europe or wherever (cant be used in us so i dont know)
I personally use wavesecure, it cost about 20 a yr for autobackup plus if ur phone gets lost or stolen you can track it down.
Then get a screen protector ... i personally use the zagg maximum body protection.
After your phone is protected carry on with your regular app installing.
Boo to screen protectors (i used one on my original iphone but nothing since), but to each their own. Also, you are essentially saying "don't bother using your phone in the meantime until you get your screen protector...double boo
Hi there,
Not sure if this is a Quantum issue or a WP7 issue, but some of my Live Tiles aren't so "Live" anymore.
Particularly Weatherbug doesn't update anymore. The app is fine, but the tile is not.
I removed locations, changed Live Tile settings, uninstalled, reinstalled, unpinned it, rebooted, re-pinned it, etc.
I'm wondering if it is a another app that does Live Tile things that busted it. For instance, OMG (the game) wouldn't start when I installed the really terrible Amazon app (which put itself in Games for some reason). Once the Amazon app was gone, OMG was fine.
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this, and if they found a fix.
Thanks,
TTFN
Gregg
Same issue with weatherbug... only updates if I go into the app and look at the weather...
I was having the same problem too, but it fixes itself somehow... maybe on weatherbug's side?
Drop Weatherbug and switch to Weather Channel. It's better anyway.
I think it was an app conflict. The AP News app also had a stuck Dead Tile.
After I moved Smug Seven off the home screen, opened AP a couple times, the WeatherBug and AP tiles started to update again. It wasn't just WeatherBug. I think it was an implementation bug in Smug Seven (it was a new app feature back then).
As an aside (since nobody asked)... I had both Weather Channel and WeatherBug installed. And a couple other weather things. I ditched Weather Channel because the design of the app is a total afterthought for WP7. I didn't like their iPhone app either. Weather Channel wanted you to buy their real app. Maybe they have the same strategy here too.
Anyway, to me it looks cluttered. It could just be the background image fighting with the foreground info. It also hung on me a few times.
Visually, I think WeatherBug's app looks cleaner and has more of the details I like. It also leverages the Metro metaphor's strengths (like being able to flick between summaries and hourly forecasts). It has a few weird things too and some of the features may be hidden to some users (like tapping the city name).
At least we have some apps to choose from!
TTFN
Gregg
What I hate about Samsung Galaxy SIII
Add to the list if you can.
-Social Networking: Phone has no built-in social networking app. You soon find yourself jumping in the market from one app to the other. Modern phones now combine the social networking experience and offer social networking hubs that combine all of your contacts from several social networks and email services in one single place.
-Text Messaging: Unlike most stock text messaging apps, there seems to be no built-in support for delivery reporting. So instead of a small icon on the corner of the text messages you send that display the status of the message (Delivered, pending, or failed) you get an annoying notification in the status bar along with the default notification ringtone whenever a message is successfully delivered.
-Task Management: There is no preinstalled stock app for managing running services. You would have to scroll through the android setting menu in order to be able to kill any task you need to. Motorola photon, for example, offers this really intuitive automatic task killer that kills user defined apps 2 minutes after screen timeout. You won't find that in any of the task killer apps in the android market.
-Stock Dialer: Stock dialer is anything but smart. Whenever you dial a part of a name or a part of a number you only get one entry to chooser or you will have to scroll down through a huge list. The order of the entries in the list is even strange. It does not show the most frequently contacted entries at the top of the list rather the closest match to what you have entered.
-TouchWiz: While the ICS has lowered the stupidity of the TouchWiz Interface (better way to add widgets than before and support for resizing and scrollable widgets), Samsung decided to change nothing else about the TouchWiz interface which is quiet strange because it does need a lot of fixes.
-WIFI: WIFI signal was much worse than all of the other phones I had in the house. And one time the WIFI got disconnected suddenly for no reason. It only happenned once but it's a bad indication never the less.
-GPS: Samsung claims that the support for GLONASS will help get better accuracy on the location results. I used gps test on two phones (GSIII and Xperia X10) both with a GPS cold start and it took the GSIII 30 seconds more time to get my location with an accuracy of 2 meters less than the Xperia.
-Hardware: Same annoying layout of the back and menu button. Despite the fact that google has given a default layout of the back, home, and menu buttons, certain manufacturers still insist on reversing the order of those buttons.
-Stock browser: Very poor support for flash. I played a video on CNN website using the latest version of Flash and the video streaming was not consistent most of the time.
-Camera: Yes. The camera is cool but only because it's a copy of HTC one X's camera. Still not a good camera for shooting in low light.
Well. That's about it. So if you're still looking for a feature-free quad-core ICS phone, you will want to buy SGSiii.
Sell it and stop wasting our time .
jje
Who paid you to post this ?
CyanogenMod 9 fixes many of the software complaints you listed.
I can't stand TouchWiz. AOSP-like ROM's on the SGS3 is perfect for me. Hopefully you feel the same.
JJEgan said:
Sell it and stop wasting our time .
jje
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+1.....that's why they have display models in phone shops, so you can have a feel for the phone before you buy it. You've obviously missed this point....sell your phone if you don't like it and stop cluttering up the S3 forums with pathetic ****e like this....reported to moderator for encouraging flaming! Absolutely ridiculous!!
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You might want to do more research on task management in Android, particularly on ICS. You'll note Motorola has removed that task manager app from their ICS updates. You'll also note you can remove applications by swiping them away from the multitasking menu, and that there's a task manager available from within that menu.
Additionally, the S III's camera is demonstrably better than that of the HTC One X, which - naturally for HTC - uses a lot of compression. HTC's camera app itself is, I found, better than Samsung's, but it's the end results that matter.
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Manar Aleryani said:
What I hate about Samsung Galaxy SIII
Add to the list if you can.
-Social Networking: Phone has no built-in social networking app. You soon find yourself jumping in the market from one app to the other. Modern phones now combine the social networking experience and offer social networking hubs that combine all of your contacts from several social networks and email services in one single place.
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So you can go to the market and download the same app that other phones have built in and get the same functionality and feature set, only those people who dont use social media will not be annoyed by having an app they cannot remove running constantly without rooting
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-Text Messaging: Unlike most stock text messaging apps, there seems to be no built-in support for delivery reporting. So instead of a small icon on the corner of the text messages you send that display the status of the message (Delivered, pending, or failed) you get an annoying notification in the status bar along with the default notification ringtone whenever a message is successfully delivered.
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The stock messaging app is ugly and poor. Swapped it out for the AOSP (Blacked out version) as soon as I could
Manar Aleryani said:
-Task Management: There is no preinstalled stock app for managing running services. You would have to scroll through the android setting menu in order to be able to kill any task you need to. Motorola photon, for example, offers this really intuitive automatic task killer that kills user defined apps 2 minutes after screen timeout. You won't find that in any of the task killer apps in the android market.
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Long-press home shows recent applications. At the bottom of the screen is a huge "Task manager" button. Needless to say, you only need to kill applications that are frozen. You do not need any task killer from the market. You also do not need to kill apps after 2 minutes. They will sit in RAM using no battery. If Android feels RAM needs to be cleared, it will use its pre-defined "Out-Of-Memory" values and kill tasks according to a task status based rule set. Read about RAM in my signature.
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-Stock Dialer: Stock dialer is anything but smart. Whenever you dial a part of a name or a part of a number you only get one entry to chooser or you will have to scroll down through a huge list. The order of the entries in the list is even strange. It does not show the most frequently contacted entries at the top of the list rather the closest match to what you have entered.
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Not had any issues myself. Although to be fair, I usually pick contacts to dial from contacts. As I have done since the 1990's
Manar Aleryani said:
-TouchWiz: While the ICS has lowered the stupidity of the TouchWiz Interface (better way to add widgets than before and support for resizing and scrollable widgets), Samsung decided to change nothing else about the TouchWiz interface which is quiet strange because it does need a lot of fixes.
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Touchwiz is awful. Sense is awful. 3rd party launchers have always been my preference
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-WIFI: WIFI signal was much worse than all of the other phones I had in the house. And one time the WIFI got disconnected suddenly for no reason. It only happenned once but it's a bad indication never the less.
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No worse than my HTC Desire
Manar Aleryani said:
-GPS: Samsung claims that the support for GLONASS will help get better accuracy on the location results. I used gps test on two phones (GSIII and Xperia X10) both with a GPS cold start and it took the GSIII 30 seconds more time to get my location with an accuracy of 2 meters less than the Xperia.
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Unable to comment. Not really used. Quoting to show I am not conveniently missing things
Manar Aleryani said:
-Hardware: Same annoying layout of the back and menu button. Despite the fact that google has given a default layout of the back, home, and menu buttons, certain manufacturers still insist on reversing the order of those buttons.
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Yep, same layout I've had on my android devices. Missed the extra buttons on the desire but after a couple of days I found it quite intuitive. Back button is fine where it is for me. Where its always been as far as I am concerned.
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-Stock browser: Very poor support for flash. I played a video on CNN website using the latest version of Flash and the video streaming was not consistent most of the time.
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Again I cant comment. All I can say is the browser annoyed me in several ways and I had to swap it out almost immidiately.
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-Camera: Yes. The camera is cool but only because it's a copy of HTC one X's camera. Still not a good camera for shooting in low light.
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Not convinced any of them are.
Manar Aleryani said:
Well. That's about it. So if you're still looking for a feature-free quad-core ICS phone, you will want to buy SGSiii.
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Erm.. Feature free? Thats a bit of a joke. The SGS3 packs in more technology than ANYTHING on the android market. Lots of cool stuff that the competition simply hasn't got. You're pretty aggresive about the SGS3.
Task manager: press and hold home button. Running tasks pop up, with a one click link to task manager. Hard? I think not .
Social media: Flipboard is preinstalled on mine. Doesn't yours work?
Had my SGS3 for less than a day, and while there are some annoyances, not these ones.
I suspect sir, you may be trolling just a bit ;-)
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i believe you
Manar Aleryani said:
What I hate about Samsung Galaxy SIII
Add to the list if you can.
-Social Networking: Phone has no built-in social networking app. You soon find yourself jumping in the market from one app to the other. Modern phones now combine the social networking experience and offer social networking hubs that combine all of your contacts from several social networks and email services in one single place.
-Text Messaging: Unlike most stock text messaging apps, there seems to be no built-in support for delivery reporting. So instead of a small icon on the corner of the text messages you send that display the status of the message (Delivered, pending, or failed) you get an annoying notification in the status bar along with the default notification ringtone whenever a message is successfully delivered.
-Task Management: There is no preinstalled stock app for managing running services. You would have to scroll through the android setting menu in order to be able to kill any task you need to. Motorola photon, for example, offers this really intuitive automatic task killer that kills user defined apps 2 minutes after screen timeout. You won't find that in any of the task killer apps in the android market.
-Stock Dialer: Stock dialer is anything but smart. Whenever you dial a part of a name or a part of a number you only get one entry to chooser or you will have to scroll down through a huge list. The order of the entries in the list is even strange. It does not show the most frequently contacted entries at the top of the list rather the closest match to what you have entered.
-TouchWiz: While the ICS has lowered the stupidity of the TouchWiz Interface (better way to add widgets than before and support for resizing and scrollable widgets), Samsung decided to change nothing else about the TouchWiz interface which is quiet strange because it does need a lot of fixes.
-WIFI: WIFI signal was much worse than all of the other phones I had in the house. And one time the WIFI got disconnected suddenly for no reason. It only happenned once but it's a bad indication never the less.
-GPS: Samsung claims that the support for GLONASS will help get better accuracy on the location results. I used gps test on two phones (GSIII and Xperia X10) both with a GPS cold start and it took the GSIII 30 seconds more time to get my location with an accuracy of 2 meters less than the Xperia.
-Hardware: Same annoying layout of the back and menu button. Despite the fact that google has given a default layout of the back, home, and menu buttons, certain manufacturers still insist on reversing the order of those buttons.
-Stock browser: Very poor support for flash. I played a video on CNN website using the latest version of Flash and the video streaming was not consistent most of the time.
-Camera: Yes. The camera is cool but only because it's a copy of HTC one X's camera. Still not a good camera for shooting in low light.
Well. That's about it. So if you're still looking for a feature-free quad-core ICS phone, you will want to buy SGSiii.
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hello.
i must say that i have my phone also for a very little amount of time.
the things you say are real.But thats the beauty of it.
you could allways improve your phone here in xda.
ruianast
Umm. I get GPS locks in under the second from a cold start. I've never had a phone do it that fast before. Either your phone is faulty or you live in a lead house.
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Manar Aleryani said:
What I hate about Samsung Galaxy SIII
Add to the list if you can.
-Social Networking: Phone has no built-in social networking app. You soon find yourself jumping in the market from one app to the other. Modern phones now combine the social networking experience and offer social networking hubs that combine all of your contacts from several social networks and email services in one single place.
-Text Messaging: Unlike most stock text messaging apps, there seems to be no built-in support for delivery reporting. So instead of a small icon on the corner of the text messages you send that display the status of the message (Delivered, pending, or failed) you get an annoying notification in the status bar along with the default notification ringtone whenever a message is successfully delivered.
-Task Management: There is no preinstalled stock app for managing running services. You would have to scroll through the android setting menu in order to be able to kill any task you need to. Motorola photon, for example, offers this really intuitive automatic task killer that kills user defined apps 2 minutes after screen timeout. You won't find that in any of the task killer apps in the android market.
-Stock Dialer: Stock dialer is anything but smart. Whenever you dial a part of a name or a part of a number you only get one entry to chooser or you will have to scroll down through a huge list. The order of the entries in the list is even strange. It does not show the most frequently contacted entries at the top of the list rather the closest match to what you have entered.
-TouchWiz: While the ICS has lowered the stupidity of the TouchWiz Interface (better way to add widgets than before and support for resizing and scrollable widgets), Samsung decided to change nothing else about the TouchWiz interface which is quiet strange because it does need a lot of fixes.
-WIFI: WIFI signal was much worse than all of the other phones I had in the house. And one time the WIFI got disconnected suddenly for no reason. It only happenned once but it's a bad indication never the less.
-GPS: Samsung claims that the support for GLONASS will help get better accuracy on the location results. I used gps test on two phones (GSIII and Xperia X10) both with a GPS cold start and it took the GSIII 30 seconds more time to get my location with an accuracy of 2 meters less than the Xperia.
-Hardware: Same annoying layout of the back and menu button. Despite the fact that google has given a default layout of the back, home, and menu buttons, certain manufacturers still insist on reversing the order of those buttons.
-Stock browser: Very poor support for flash. I played a video on CNN website using the latest version of Flash and the video streaming was not consistent most of the time.
-Camera: Yes. The camera is cool but only because it's a copy of HTC one X's camera. Still not a good camera for shooting in low light.
Well. That's about it. So if you're still looking for a feature-free quad-core ICS phone, you will want to buy SGSiii.
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Sell it. Go buy a perfect phone.
So you hate everything about the phone... why didn't you try it out before purchasing? Could have saved yourself from all this whining...
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Everything has been covered so far by others with the result: get the apps you want and customize the heck out of your phone.
Well nearly everthing except this:
GPS: Samsung claims that the support for GLONASS will help get better accuracy on the location results. I used gps test on two phones (GSIII and Xperia X10) both with a GPS cold start and it took the GSIII 30 seconds more time to get my location with an accuracy of 2 meters less than the Xperia.
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There are multiple methods for starting satellite navigation. (GPS is not really correct since GPS is the US-version of satellite navigation which does not include the russion GLONASS. I'll however restrict myself to the GPS system in the post to keep things simple)
When your phone has internet connection it will use A-GPS supl-Servers which calculate the phone's accurate position from the raw data it sends.
Based on that information and the also downloaded satellite trajectory prediction it gets a predetermined location. Using that information it can then continue on it's own. Usually this takes less than 3-5 seconds depending on your view.
Without active supl-servers, the phone can download or use a cached version of the satellite trajectory prediction and calculate it with it's own chip from scratch. That usually takes anything from 2 seconds to a minute depending on your view and signal stability.
If neither is available, the GPS receiver has to download the satellite prediction data from the satellites themselves. Each satellite transmits the whole prediction data within ~10 minutes in a cycle. The more satelllites your phone "sees" and actively uses, the faster the download.
As soon as it has the data, it will use it. In total it can take anything from a few seconds to several minutes before a first fix is determined.
It's noteworthy that the prediction data is afaik kept across reboots, so you'll have to disable any network connections (even disconnect from your carrier) use special apps to remove the data, reboot the phone and try again.
Usually a cold-start with active data connection gives you a fix within 5 seconds, without active within 30.
Accuracy as determined by the phone is just an educated guess based on a simple formula. It's rather easy to change it so it displays 0.001 meters....
It's technically impossible to get a less-than 5meter accurate fix with such a GPS receiver, usually you are between 10 and 15 meters. Now tell me, which is more accurate; a max-12 satellite algorithm or a max-24 satellite algorithm?
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Everything has been covered so far by others with the result: get the apps you want and customize the heck out of your phone.
Well nearly everthing except this:
There are multiple methods for starting satellite navigation. (GPS is not really correct since GPS is the US-version of satellite navigation which does not include the russion GLONASS. I'll however restrict myself to the GPS system in the post to keep things simple)
When your phone has internet connection it will use A-GPS supl-Servers which calculate the phone's accurate position from the raw data it sends.
Based on that information and the also downloaded satellite trajectory prediction it gets a predetermined location. Using that information it can then continue on it's own. Usually this takes less than 3-5 seconds depending on your view.
Without active supl-servers, the phone can download or use a cached version of the satellite trajectory prediction and calculate it with it's own chip from scratch. That usually takes anything from 2 seconds to a minute depending on your view and signal stability.
If neither is available, the GPS receiver has to download the satellite prediction data from the satellites themselves. Each satellite transmits the whole prediction data within ~10 minutes in a cycle. The more satelllites your phone "sees" and actively uses, the faster the download.
As soon as it has the data, it will use it. In total it can take anything from a few seconds to several minutes before a first fix is determined.
It's noteworthy that the prediction data is afaik kept across reboots, so you'll have to disable any network connections (even disconnect from your carrier) use special apps to remove the data, reboot the phone and try again.
Usually a cold-start with active data connection gives you a fix within 5 seconds, without active within 30.
Accuracy as determined by the phone is just an educated guess based on a simple formula. It's rather easy to change it so it displays 0.001 meters....
It's technically impossible to get a less-than 5meter accurate fix with such a GPS receiver, usually you are between 10 and 15 meters. Now tell me, which is more accurate; a max-12 satellite algorithm or a max-24 satellite algorithm?
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haha quoting 2 fast 2 furious I see XD. good series. can't wait for the next film!
usually people who buy the phone , using it less then a month is to criticise the phone haha nothing new , next please....
Sounds like an HTC fanboy to me lol
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He may not have even bought the Galaxy S III. He might have gotten the original Galaxy S or an old LG phone running LG's UI.
|Trolling with a smile|
-Social Networking: Don't care, less bloat is always good
-Text Messaging: Changed it to AOSP.
-Task Management: No task management? You need glasses.
-Stock Dialer: I enter a combination of numbers, press call, works as I expected it to.
-TouchWiz: It's ****. This has been common knowledge for years.
-WIFI: Stronger than my gnex and nexus s.
-GPS: Works fine, 5-10 seconds.
-Hardware: Don't care, they're only buttons.
-Stock browser: ****, don't like scrolling with it.
-Camera: Great. We must remember that its a phone, not a dslr.
-You: Complaining asshat.
That is all.
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I enjoyed reading threads like these. I really do. :good:
anyway real samsung user will too busy searching for improvement for S3 , not a stupid hate list with no solutions, guess is other brands supporter is idle free since their flagship phone is not out ,hence more hate list threads surfacing , hmmm find something else to do ..maybe go take a walk in the park or something
A weird thing has been happening to my S5 since I got it, both before and after rooting. For some reason, not all widgets want to stick to my homescreen in the stock Samsung launcher. When I first got the phone, they all worked, as far as I could tell (I didn't investigate fully at the time, since I had no reason to suspect that they wouldn't work). After a little while, though, I found that I couldn't make Beautiful Widgets widgets stick. I long-pressed the homescreen, chose BW, selected a widget style/size, and customized it in the BW menu, just like it's supposed to work. But no widget appeared on the homescreen. What was weirder was that in the BW app itself, it listed my widget as working, even though it obviously wasn't. Uninstalling/reinstalling the app did nothing but clear the "existing" widget I had created from the list within the app interface.
At first, I thought this problem was limited to BW, so I just got rid of it and decided to jump to another app, but then I found that HD widgets didn't work, and another similar clock/weather-style widget group wouldn't work. Thinking maybe I had created some sort of data corruption, I did a factory reset, which worked for a while, but eventually the widgets stopped working again. After rooting, and finding that the problem still existed, I factory reset again, and started putting my apps back on one at a time, testing to see if it was a conflicting app causing the problem. No luck. The widgets worked until some random time when they simply no longer would.
I finally resolved to go without this kind of widget, since it wasn't a necessity, just a convenience. The problem is that I've now noticed that other kinds of widgets aren't working, either, including some that I'd really like to have work, like the Tasker timer widget.
Has anyone else noticed this problem occurring on their Verizon S5s? I'm going to look into which widgets actually still work (because some do), and which don't, and compile a spreadsheet, see if I can come up with a reason. I doubt I'll be successful, but it might be useful for other people who actually know how to fix things.
PS. Another weird thing is that the widgets stick to Nova Launcher homescreens just fine. Now, that would be okay, except that I want to do some theming now that we can flash some ROMs, and I thought that theming only applies to the stock launcher. Plus, I'm guessing that this isn't normal behavior and I do want to find out why it's happening, not just use a workaround.
After some more digging, I've found that, with only a few exceptions, the widgets that require some sort of customization before placement on the homescreen are the ones that don't work. All widgets that are simply "click-and-drop" work fine. But, if I click a widget and it opens up a configuration page, 9 times out 10 no widget will appear on the homescreen after the configuration.
It doesn't seem to matter what size the widget is, whether the widget's app is stock or third-party, or if it is solo on the widget page or part of a group of widgets from the same app.
Plus, there are some exceptions to this, such as Google Play widgets, Mint, and Email Me Pro. Others work sometimes, depending on what configuration you apply to the widget. For example, the stock Picture Frame widget works when you shuffle the pictures, and doesn't when you choose where to draw pictures from.
Very strange. I'm thinking my only course of action might be to go nuclear and flash a completely different stock image onto my phone through Odin. I downloaded one from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53437805&postcount=1289. If I'm correct, this tar image should be exactly the same as the one that was on my phone from the factory, presumably minus whatever problem mine currently has. We'll see how it goes, I guess.
Okay, so flashed the tar image through Odin, reloaded some stuff without rooting (yet), and everything seems to be going fine so far. I'm pretty sure that by this point in my previous experiment, the widgets had stopped working. I think it must have been some sort of corrupted file deep inside my system that isn't there now.