Mod edit - The Note does have Gorilla Glass - but it can still be scratched if you are not careful! I'm leaving this open for scratch discussion
Regardless of where you heard it the G_Note doesn't have Gorilla Glass.
I have a Galaxy Tab 7 (first gen) that does have Gorilla Glass.
I had the Galaxy Tab for a year and used it extensively, literally every single day and got zero scratches on the screen. No seriously... The Galaxy Tab has zero scratches after a year.
I have had the Gnote for roughly 3 weeks and used it in exactly the same was as the tab and it has several scratches on the screen already... :0(
Prospective G Note purchasers - Please remember to factor a screen protector into your considerations when buying the Gnote.. Especially when coming from a device that had a Gorilla glass screen.
I have my Screen protector on order....
what's funny is that my Tab P1000 has several scratches and my Note has none... but i do baby it..
Do you know what material it got the scratches from?
My chat with Samsung Agent :
Pearl: I understand that you want to know if the Samsung Note phone has Gorilla glass or Normal Galss. Am I correct?
Bitter: yes
Pearl: Thank you for the confirmation.
Pearl: Would you mind holding 3 minutes while I gather the required information on your request?
Bitter: Take your time
Pearl: Thank you.
Pearl: Thank you for holding.
Bitter: Welcome back
Pearl: The Samsung Note has the Gorilla Glass.
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Anyway, i got a small scratch too :/ Am really taking care of it and its inside a Samsung orginal case aswell .. strange and disappointing.
I know that Gorilla Glass is not a scratch proof, But I did not know that it scratch itself.
What have you done to your screen?
The nexus has the same glass as the note:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...es-about-Gorilla-Glass-look-silly-now_id23880
I almost feel that screen protector sellers are posting these messages to sell them...
I never use screen protectors, i'm not overly protective of my phone but i never have scratches.. I had a Iphone 2g & 3g, HTC HD2, Galaxy S and SII..
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What have you done to your screen?
The nexus has the same glass as the note:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...es-about-Gorilla-Glass-look-silly-now_id23880
I almost feel that screen protector sellers are posting these messages to sell them...
I never use screen protectors, i'm not overly protective of my phone but i never have scratches.. I had a Iphone 2g & 3g, HTC HD2, Galaxy S and SII..
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Yeah I think you might be on to something because my gnote screen is absolutely flawless after much relatively careful but not obsessive about it use.
i have had a few phones. the screen definately feels softer, like it would scratch easy. Worries me a bit.
Nope - I haven't used a screen protector on any of my previous devices and have never had a need for one... Till now.
In fact my ridiculously intensely used Motorola Milestone 1 that i've had for coming up to 2 years now only has one scratch. The milestone has several scratches and scuffs on metal body though..
Bottom line is that the Galaxy Note Glass is made of inferior quality to the Motorola Milestone and the Galaxy Tab 7 (First Gen).
From Corning Gorilla Glass: Devices from Samsung with Gorilla Glass:
Samsung: Behold II, Captivate, Continuum, Corby S3650, Corby W900, Epic 4G, Fascinate, Flight II, Focus, Galaxy A, Galaxy Ace, Galaxy S, GALAXY S II, Galaxy S 4G, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Lindy, Mesmerize, Monte, Monte Preston, Omnia HD, S8500 WAVE, Showcase, Trance, Transform, Ultra TOUCH S8300, Vibrant, Wave II
No Galaxy Note or Galaxy Nexus. Don't know if the info is updated though.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
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The nexus has the same glass as the note:
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Any proof to this claim?
1. Gorilla Glass isn't scratch proof (SGSII has 0 scratches while captivate has a few)
2. Samsung and Corning has a partnership (joint company) and may not be using the gorilla glass name. (http://www.scp.samsung.com/)
BazookaAce said:
From Corning Gorilla Glass: Devices from Samsung with Gorilla Glass:
Samsung: Behold II, Captivate, Continuum, Corby S3650, Corby W900, Epic 4G, Fascinate, Flight II, Focus, Galaxy A, Galaxy Ace, Galaxy S, GALAXY S II, Galaxy S 4G, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Lindy, Mesmerize, Monte, Monte Preston, Omnia HD, S8500 WAVE, Showcase, Trance, Transform, Ultra TOUCH S8300, Vibrant, Wave II
No Galaxy Note or Galaxy Nexus. Don't know if the info is updated though.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
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no its not updated... where are the new tablets?
gorilla glass is not %100 scratch proof. i have a hd2 which %100 has a gorilla glass one day i put it in my pocket with keys it got scratched. after that i tried to scratch it with keys, very sharp utility knife and screwdriver no success i cant scratch it. alsa got a first gen 7" tab too has no scratched on it even i use it worse then hd2. so i think gorilla glasses has some weakness in some contitions if that happens it scratches easily.
Answer from Samsung Support in twitter:
Samsung Support
@NV30Over Sorry, we can't speculate at this time as to not give misleading info. Please stay tuned! http://t.co/Nm8rouJn Thanks! ^jc
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I'm a tradesman who uses a Note as my phone and I have no scratches so far. If someone who is doing manual tasks in tight areas all day with a Note just dropped in their top pocket with no screen protector or case can avoid getting scratches without even trying, I have no idea how everyone else is managing to damage theirs :\
My Desire HD has no scratch either after 2 years of heavy use.
I also have a scratch on my 3 weeks old Galaxy Note screen and I didn't do crazy things with it...
May be a bit sand?)
If I m not mistaken company itself declared that the device will have Gorilla Glass
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What have you done to your screen?
The nexus has the same glass as the note:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...es-about-Gorilla-Glass-look-silly-now_id23880
I almost feel that screen protector sellers are posting these messages to sell them...
I never use screen protectors, i'm not overly protective of my phone but i never have scratches.. I had a Iphone 2g & 3g, HTC HD2, Galaxy S and SII..
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I am in agreement with you NRG on this. I never use screen protectors as I think they look uglier than a scratched screen does!
As long as my phone is kept in a reasonable case the screen should be protected.
mavaee said:
My Desire HD has no scratch either after 2 years of heavy use.
I also have a scratch on my 3 weeks old Galaxy Note screen and I didn't do crazy things with it...
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DHD hasn't been out for 2 years and doesn't have gorilla glass...
I was wondering if our device has a scratch-resistant (Gorilla Glass), and i asked it on Samsung Live chat confirmed that it does have Gorilla Glass, but he doesn't know which version it is (I tought it's the first gen of Corning display)...
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Narciso Neto said:
I was wondering if our device has a scratch-resistant (Gorilla Glass), and i asked it on Samsung Live chat confirmed that it does have Gorilla Glass, but he doesn't know which version it is (I tought it's the first gen of Corning display)...
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bro that might be right but believe me at live chat people attending customers are like:sly::sly::sly:
ask same question again in chat u will get what I am saying...
I am not 100% sure but I think tab 2 don't have gorilla glass because if it has why would Samsung not make it official in product promotion????
Narciso Neto said:
I was wondering if our device has a scratch-resistant (Gorilla Glass), and i asked it on Samsung Live chat confirmed that it does have Gorilla Glass, but he doesn't know which version it is (I tought it's the first gen of Corning display)...
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Tab 2 no it doesn't have Corning Gorilla glass, the galaxy tab instead it.
See the section "product with gorrilla" on the site corninggorillaglass
googled it quick, and it seems it doesn't.
"Although the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 will not offer Gorilla Glass, it will offer Samsung's own Glass panel that offers impact, shatter and scratch resistance." - Samsung rep.
I think it is not the official Corning Gorilla Glass, but it has a resistant screen. I've seen a lot of drop test on youtube, and the SGT2 was the only tablet I've seen so far to resist falling directly on the screen.
Wish the screen had anti-fingerprint protection, because mine gets very oily, with low usage.
[With pics] How to replace only the glass (not the whole "LCD") on a Galaxy S3!
You don't.
Although it is entirely possible, the chance of failure if done by people with absolutely no experience with mobile phone repairs is very high.
If you've broken the screen on your Samsung Galaxy S3 and have considered replacing the screen by yourself because your local mobile phone repair shops charge a hefty price for the repair, you should reconsider. You may have seen videos like the following that make it seem it is very easy to replace the glass only:
(skip to 3:00 in this one)
Maybe it seemed too easy. That's because it was too easy. Chances are those screens have already been replaced before by a third party who has access to professional equipment and skills. Possibly the screen has been broken more than once?
Even if you do successfully replace the glass only, it is guaranteed that you will get scratches, dust, fingerprints and adhesive marks on the Super AMOLED panel, no matter how much you clean it. That's because you won't be doing the repair with gloves on in a clean room free of dust. And that's not all - after a few weeks or months of use, dust will somehow find a way to get in between the glass and SAMOLED+ panel because you didn't use machine-cut adhesive that adheres your glass perfectly, leaving no gap for dust to get in. Your screen's touch sensitivity will drop as well, since it's not making adequate contact with the digitizer. And on top of that, the visibility will also drop.
Those problems don't show up on camera, and can easily be masked/hidden from the camera, too.
If this is only your first time breaking the screen on your S3, those tutorials won't work for you because your screen was manufactured as one whole piece by Samsung. The glass on your phone won't fall out by itself because the whole glass is optically laminated to the SAMOLED+ panel using a Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive, or LOCA for short. This kind of adhesive is a little bit sensitive to heat, but can't be completely removed because it is cured using UV light, not heat.
Optical lamination is a manufacturing process employed in more high end mobile devices that eliminate the air gap usually present between the display panel (usually either LCD or AMOLED) and the glass digitizer panel on top. Phones such as the Samsung Galaxy S3, S4, Note 2 and Note 3, iPhone 4/4S/5/5S/5C, HTC One X, One, Butterfly, Droid DNA, LG Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Sony Xperia Z, Z1, Z Ultra etc. have displays that are optically laminated. Optical lamination has a number of advantages:
Visibility is increased (especially under sunlight), since there aren't multiple layers reflecting ambient light creating optical interference
Screen clarity is increased, since optical lamination makes the display look like it is on top of the glass as opposed to being under it
It is impossible for debris like dirt and dust to get trapped in the air gap between the display and glass, because that gap is filled with LOCA
Higher contrast ratio, because there's less light reflecting off the parts of the screen that aren't emitting light
But the biggest disadvantage is the increased cost of repair. That's what you have to pay for all those aforementioned advantages. It also certainly doesn't help that the screens are getting thinner and thinner every year. The likelihood of breaking the screen increases every year too.
Here's a little photo album that I'd like to share with everyone documenting my experiences trying to remove the glass from full original Samsung screens that haven't been replaced or tampered with before. Click to enlarge.
This is a picture of the Black Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-i9300. Only the glass was broken, so I attempted to separate it from the AMOLED panel using a heat gun and some plastic pry tools. So far so good, until the AMOLED panel broke because it is optically bonded to the glass and also stuck to the frame underneath it. You can still see some LOCA on the AMOLED panel and glass.
Second is the Galaxy S4 GT-i9505. It was broken on the top half, so I started removing the glass from the bottom. Again, the LOCA wasn't very cooperative, staying quite solid throughout the removal. Eventually, the S4's AMOLED panel broke too.
It didn't look like the broken original Samsung screens wanted to be separated, so I moved on to fully intact screens.
It was a pain trying to separate this one. The adhesive was very difficult to remove, and the screen's touch digitizer circuit and polarizer started to separate from the AMOLED panel. As you can see, the glass came off intact, but the AMOLED underneath was completely destroyed.
It doesn't look like the digitizer circuit/polarizer is bonded to the AMOLED. It just gets sandwiched on top, so it is very easy to unintentionally separate it from the AMOLED instead of leaving it on and only removing the glass, especially if the glass is smashed into a thousand fragments. The glass was in one piece though, and you can see how that turned out.
This is a good representation of what the AMOLED sandwich consists of. From top to bottom:
Gorilla Glass
Touch digitizer circuit/polarizer (you can see the rest of the glass is a lot darker than the top left corner where polarizer was removed)
AMOLED panel (it looks very reflective without the polarizer on top of it)
Midframe
Some of the AMOLED panel itself came off and was still stuck to the glass!
You can see how thin and fragile the AMOLED panel is on the Samsung Galaxy S series phones. Sure, it's thin, but is it worth it? The panel has to be supported by the frame and the glass to stay intact. The panel on the S4 has a slimmed down bezel and was made thinner again, so it's a lot easier to break the AMOLED on the S4 than it is on the S3.
Ugh, don't even get me started with the iPhone 5 screen. LCDs are more robust than AMOLEDS but still...so much LOCA...so much glass...
Sure, these glass panels can be had for about $10, but is it worth all the effort to end up with a screen full of dust and fingerprints, has a warped frame and will eventually come loose and fall off, or simply just to destroy the AMOLED panel then spending extra money on a whole display assembly? Reapplying the glass leaving no gaps for dust to get in requires adhesive that is machine-cut perfectly for your frame.
Edit: Even then, you still don't have any LOCA or the necessary facilities to fill that air gap. (Thanks to @KrzychuG !)
Do you have what it takes?
Sorry for such a long post. I'm spending my time, efforts and money so you don't have to. I will occasionally add to this thread when I get more screens to experiment with.
This is a good video on how these screens can be separated and replaced with a perfect bubble-free and dust-free finish:
Most of the time its a better idea to just buy an entire replacement. I've replaced glass on nexus 7's and Galaxy Note2's a few times. it's not fun to replace glass or lamination, and it's just a whole lot easier to purchase a "parts" phone with a working display from ebay and swap out boards. Glass is one of my least favorite things to play with.
vantt1 said:
This is a good video on how these screens can be separated and replaced with a perfect bubble-free and dust-free finish:
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Awesome dude! thanks alot for the tutorial, but i dont think people have industrial size vacuums in their house, lol,
Thank you so much, this is very helpful!
Can I ask how you got the information? That would be very useful to do further research about other devices
Thanks again!
I will never, ever separate the glass and the screen. I know that it will break for sure. When I replace phone glass, I replace the entire front screen assembly which includes the glass, screen, and any frame to attach it into the phone. Even if it's just the glass that's broken and the LCD still works, still replace the entire front assembly.
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Awesome dude! thanks alot for the tutorial, but i dont think people have industrial size vacuums in their house, lol,
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I think the point is that unless you have all this stuff you shouldn't be even attempting to replace the glass.
i have tried this multiple times and all i can say is for anyone at home wihtout the professional equipment your not gonna get anywhere.. this isnt like and iPhone 3G/S where you take the screen off and seperate the LCD from the digitizer with a heatgun or hairdryer, ive tried all possible ways an failed every single time, either broken AMOLED or in some cases half the AMOLED comes off with the adheasive...
just save your money and buy the digitizer with the AMOLED attached..
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I will never, ever separate the glass and the screen. I know that it will break for sure. When I replace phone glass, I replace the entire front screen assembly which includes the glass, screen, and any frame to attach it into the phone. Even if it's just the glass that's broken and the LCD still works, still replace the entire front assembly.
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but what will you do with the old screen with the broken front glass ?
andr3wchong said:
but what will you do with the old screen with the broken front glass ?
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Chuck it
I have replaced many screens, and in my experience, you're always best buying everything as readily assembled as possible. Out of 5 attempts at separating the S3 Glass from the AMOLED panel, I have managed it twice without breaking the AMOLED, and that involves also keeping the digitser intact as well, which is between the outer glass and the AMOLED.
Back when I was doing this, you were looking at £175+ for the complete assembly, so to some people, £20 at a risk was worth it if I could manage it. Now though they're cheap enough to replace the whole lot without the worry.
There is an app on Play Store called ifixit which gives pretty detailed step-by-step instructions for most DIY teardowns and fixes for phones, tablets, consoles and even some household applicances, and they have a website too. Unfortunately, it's only experience (and expense) that make you realise that just because they make it look doable, it doesn't mean everyone can do it easily. There are many, many pitfalls that you will only discover yourself when you take on these DIY repairs, to the point where I don't do them all that often anymore, just because it's too stressful and costly if it goes wrong. My first iPhone 4 (am I allowed to say that here? ) screen replacement took me 3 hours just because of how careful I was. Now I can do it in 20 minutes, just because of experience. But even then you can be plagued with problems for no apparent reason. If you don't handle stress well, my best advice is to leave it to the experts
matmaneyre said:
I have replaced many screens, and in my experience, you're always best buying everything as readily assembled as possible. Out of 5 attempts at separating the S3 Glass from the AMOLED panel, I have managed it twice without breaking the AMOLED, and that involves also keeping the digitser intact as well, which is between the outer glass and the AMOLED.
Back when I was doing this, you were looking at £175+ for the complete assembly, so to some people, £20 at a risk was worth it if I could manage it. Now though they're cheap enough to replace the whole lot without the worry.
There is an app on Play Store called ifixit which gives pretty detailed step-by-step instructions for most DIY teardowns and fixes for phones, tablets, consoles and even some household applicances, and they have a website too. Unfortunately, it's only experience (and expense) that make you realise that just because they make it look doable, it doesn't mean everyone can do it easily. There are many, many pitfalls that you will only discover yourself when you take on these DIY repairs, to the point where I don't do them all that often anymore, just because it's too stressful and costly if it goes wrong. My first iPhone 4 (am I allowed to say that here? ) screen replacement took me 3 hours just because of how careful I was. Now I can do it in 20 minutes, just because of experience. But even then you can be plagued with problems for no apparent reason. If you don't handle stress well, my best advice is to leave it to the experts
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you musty be really good out of i think 7 possible 8, i have managed to seperate once, but still i scratched the AMOLED...
ricky310711 said:
you musty be really good out of i think 7 possible 8, i have managed to seperate once, but still i scratched the AMOLED...
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It never feels like I'm very good when I see the screen go though. Just that sick feeling :/
Saying that as well, I gave the phones back to whoever they belonged to when they were done. There's nothing to say that a couple of weeks/months down the line they faced the problems of dust under the glass, touchscreen sensitivity reduced etc. They were just happy to get them back 'looking' perfect.
Never again
matmaneyre said:
It never feels like I'm very good when I see the screen go though. Just that sick feeling :/
Saying that as well, I gave the phones back to whoever they belonged to when they were done. There's nothing to say that a couple of weeks/months down the line they faced the problems of dust under the glass, touchscreen sensitivity reduced etc. They were just happy to get them back 'looking' perfect.
Never again
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your right, quallity also plays a BIG part aswell, like you said never know what could happen, but better brands generally have better touch respones and just generally more smoothe, i knew someone who had just got the digitizer replaced by a phone repair shop, they couldnt use their phone in the wind thats how bad the replacement was..
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thank you, says my sii p
you saved a sii today, i'm using my phone without screen protection so it gets scratches after long times and i said to myself that's ok, i will replace the gorilla glass. that would be open the phone replace it then close it and i will have a new sii p again but sounds it's not that easy.
Very interesting thread.
I must be lucky,as on several occasions with most phones I have owned (HTC Desire hd, HTC One X, HTC One,Nexus 5, Samsung Note 3) I have accidentally dropped my phone. I've never had a case on and have on some occasions been unlucky to have the phone land on the screen, it has happened indoors and outdoors, on concrete and tarmac, despite this I haven't ever broken the glass.
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HankChill said:
Chuck it
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I wouldn't follow the advice to "Chuck it". We purchase these cracked glass assemblies as long as the touch screen and LCD still work fine. We can pay up to $100 PER screen, depending on the model. PM us for prices for bulk orders.
I very recently bought myself an used Galaxy S3 and to my great disappointment the glass has no scratches because it has been replaced. Now I got ****ty touchscreen response and already dust is gathering between the digitizer and the glass. I might try to sell it off and buy myself another one, this time checking very carefully that everything is in perfect working condition!
So much for thinking I had found a bargain for this fantastic phone (which, despite the problems, is a nice upgrade from my Galaxy Ace!)
MobileEMT said:
I wouldn't follow the advice to "Chuck it". We purchase these cracked glass assemblies as long as the touch screen and LCD still work fine. We can pay up to $100 PER screen, depending on the model. PM us for prices for bulk orders.
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Really? I have a crapload
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Really? I have a crapload
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Good to hear! We'll PM you. Feel free to contact us if you would like to sell or refurbish them.
The flexible and curved screen technologies came out a few years ago, but there wasn't much practical use for them. These were solutions waiting for problems. That's cool. Even the giant curved screen TVs that came out since then seem to be useful only if you plan on viewing the TV from a four meter distance. That makes sense.
But the Galaxy Edge screen? "Uhhhhhh, okay, it's cute, but can we move along now?"
People seem to love their Galaxy Edge screens, but I honestly don't get it -- at all! I'm definitely a function-over-form kind of guy, and so I don't want the edges of my screen wraping around the sides of the device and facing away from me. Because this is less than optimal design, it actually looks ugly to me. So, it seems it's only function is to be a gimmick to sell more product to people who are more form-over-function than function-over-form.
This is my opinion, and other opinions may differ.
So now that Samsung is not offering their new Galaxy devices without the Edge wrap-around screens, I won't be buying them until they bring back the flat screens.
Are there some other practical uses for the screen wrapping around half of the device's side? And are these uses worth the trade off of sacrificing pixels that face you when viewing your screen normally?
If Samsung really must continue the gimmick I hope they get wise and bring back totally flat screen as a Galaxy product option.
That's my feelings, but what do others think about curved edges vs flat?
Really don't like curved edges either, I think it looks nice but functionally I'd just prefer flat. Also makes cases weird as they have to cut around the curved sides.
Gimmick I personally HATE curved displays. You can't fully protect it with tempered glass. There are curved ones but those have glue only on the edges not whole panel. It also gives ugly light reflexes. I believe that was designed to eliminate decent screen protection and make devices less shatter proof. I hope there will be flat Galaxy S9 if not i will probably (sadly) abandon samsung. 2,5D is a BS also
gimmick, i hate it. hard to protect with case, makes replacement screen more expensive too