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Hi,
I currently only have 4.98mb left of the 180.85mb total storage available on my device and am now getting 'critically low memory' warnings. I have not installed many apps or anything else to the phone and can't really understand why this is so high.
I had a look at the folders which are: -
Application Data 39.8mb
Documents and Settings 1.07mb
My Documents 2.77mb
Program Files 10.4mb
Windows - doesn't say but must be approx 115mb for the total to be correct? Is this normal?
Also, I have 115.06mb free of the 336.93mb total program memory available.
Is anyone else having similar issues? If the windows section is suppossed to use this high amount why has the phone not been allocated enough memory to deal with it?
Thanks
James
You should search a bit, but, empty the cache folder of HTCAlbum, Opera, etc.. in Application Data.
Thanks for the help. I have deleted the contects of the HTCalbum cache and Google maps and this has increased the available memory to 39.57mb.
Why should we have to delete cache data to be able to use our device? This seems a bit crap to me
Your memory usage is not normal- the HD2 has about 135MB free Storage Memory after a hard reset, so something has grabbed your memory somewhere.
I'd suggest downloading a small program called SpaceFinder which can give you a tree view of where the memory has gone sorted by folder size. It was designed for much older versions of WinMo but still works well. Some of the fiels it sees are in the ROM, but at least it will give you some clues.
Culprits for memory usage apart from the caches are music and video files- look in those folders to see if there's anything obvious.
Hello JJJJacksonjjjjj
Your problem is not new and has been reported many times on here.
If you look in the hints and tips thread in this forum there are a number of suggestions for clawing back memory space, which I suggest you implement.
Other thing is I bet you have been installing all of your apps onto the phome memory when you could have done so onto the storage card. If I am right then I would suggest you backup all your data using, say Sprite Backup or my preferred app which is SPB Backup, hard reset your phone and rebuild it from scratch, installing your apps carefully and onto the memory card instead.
Might sound a bit heavy handed but you will reap the benefits in the long run (If too drastic for you then deinstall and reinstall apps onto external memory instead without hard resetting).
I built my phone exactly this way from day one. Every app that gets installed gets assessed by me as to whether it needs to be in phone memory or not. If not then its straight onto the memory card (running an 8GB at the moment, waiting for the 32GB to come onstream and at at a reasonable price).
This, plus all the tips in the thread I mentioned earlier, have left me a happy bunny memory wise.
Good luck with it.
WB
Thanks guys, I am sorted now.
I downloaded spacefinder (really good program) and found out straight away that I had 30mb+ in Windows>Opera9>Profile>Download. I didn't know it kept all the downloaded cabs and pdfs etc you download (without saving), I thought these would be cleared when you exit Opera.
Also there were loads of facebook pictures in the temporary internet files of Internet Explorer! Why does it save all these?!
Anyway, I am now at 93.5mb free out of 180.85mb so all is good
Don't get me wrong I love my HD2 (and TP before) but HTC will never win over the mass market unless they sort out these kind of issues. Most people I know wouldn't have the first idea about all the messing about we have to do with these devices, and as a result they would have a sluggish, buggy device within weeks of normal use.
Without the help form you guys on XDA I would have probobly ditched the TP after a month or so, and I think I knew deep down I was being too hopeful, but I thought the HD2 would be free from the minor niggles I had with my TP.
That turned into a bit of a rant lol.
Thanks again guys.
...many problems are for cache of programs like htc album, opera, google maps...
...in this post there are many advice, and explain how to move the htc album cache to storage card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578
...i have a good result with SKTOOLS program, because i had the same problem with the internal memory
good luck!
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Don't get me wrong I love my HD2 (and TP before) but HTC will never win over the mass market unless they sort out these kind of issues.
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Glad you're sorted- despite its age, I still always load Spacefinder as one of my 1st apps. Only 72KB and does exactly what it says!
Don't blame HTC for these issues- it is down to both MS and the application developers like Opera to define whether & where they store stuff.
At least the HD2 has a fair amount of free space- unlike earlier devices which ground to a halt because of these stupid problems.
Spacefinder download link please gents (google is not turning up what I am looking for)?
Cheers
WB
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Don't blame HTC for these issues- it is down to both MS and the application developers like Opera to define whether & where they store stuff.
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I am probably being a bit unfair to HTC, but a lot of the common issues most people seem to have are (as far as I can see) ones that HTC should sort - sms, pink camera etc (I didn't just mean the memory). How can they release a top line device with these issues and expect that users will check for and install fixes?
My point is that they are selling us a product; which they know things like Opera, the facebook app, HTC photo etc are integral to how it will be used by the consumer, so they should ensure these functions work reliably out of the box without user research and fixing.
I don't want to knock HTC (I wouldn't have any other device now), but there are always niggles that they should sort out before release
Hi,
Just want to ask if there is possibility for dual-booting as following:
Android - From NAND
Windows 7.5 - From SD.
Because i still want to use droid as my main OS/ROM, so im asking is there any possibility to run Win 7.5 from SD and Droid from NAND ?
Thanks in advance.
+1 i have exactly the same question... please help!!!!!!
advises?suggestions?maybe...links???
No, my understanding is, WP7 cannot be booted off SD, so you are stuck with WP7 off NAND and Android off SD. I have it set up that way and am very happy with the way it works.
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No, my understanding is, WP7 cannot be booted off SD, so you are stuck with WP7 off NAND and Android off SD. I have it set up that way and am very happy with the way it works.
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and android from sd card goes slow?¿??¿?boots slow????? any con?
Yeah. Same Here.
Im using NAND rom now, and im impressed with the speed on my HTC HD2. I Really love to use WP 7.5 too, because it looks just awesome but i dont know if the Android from SD can match the speed of NAND - i dont actually care abou speed of boot, but about speed of room itself i use lot of 3D games and apps that needs lot of procesing power..so can you tell us about cons and comparison between NAND and SD..thanks in advance man
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and android from sd card goes slow?¿??¿?boots slow????? any con?
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It is somewhat laggier compared to the same Android version run off NAND, but not to the point of being a nuisance. I talk about NexusHD2-Gingerbread_V3.0 (Android-2.3.5) only, because it's the only one I experienced in both NAND and SD options. Lets just say off NAND it runs natively, as if it was always supposed to be there from get go, off SD it runs without problems or glitches for me, but not as fast. HOWEVER, given the advantages of having both WP7.5 Mango and Android, I think it's a negligible trade-off.
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As far as running apps on Android SD - I didn't notice any major changes. A big advantage for me with having Android is watching videos, as through Zune and WP7.5 it's a whole lot of headache, compared to simplicity and omnivorousness of Android - files can be just dropped onto your SD card and you are away. No lag of any kind to report when watching videos.
My advice would be to try it. If you don't like it - just remove the Android and the partition and stick with WP7.5 or unlock and format the card and go with whatever you would like to go. But chances are you will barely notice the difference in speed and performance.
Until WP7.5 Mango I was with Android off NAND, simply because I wasn't terribly impressed with previous attempts at WP7. I gave some versions a try and invariably returned to Android. Once proper Mango was out, I was torn and couldn't decide which one I would want to stick with. With dual boot I got the best of both.
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Oh, almost forgot - e-BOOKS! I read a lot of e-books and WP7 is useless, I mean USELESS when it comes to document handling. Android off SD handles books gloriously - complete with book shelf, pages turning, fonts and backlight options.
Don't have a lot of 3D games, so can't really comment on graphics for those.
I can use Android for days before switching to WP7.5, you just use it as if it was your main OS - the two exist on your phone as very separate entities without crossing over. So text messages received in one will not be showing in another and you will have to remember which one it was. Files, music and photos will also belong in separate OSs, so you will have to add the same things twice for each if you want to use them on both.
Hi enigma! Can you please help with the process of installing Android in SD card while running nand mango? Thanks!
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[/COLOR]Oh, almost forgot - e-BOOKS! I read a lot of e-books and WP7 is useless, I mean USELESS when it comes to document handling. Android off SD handles books gloriously - complete with book shelf, pages turning, fonts and backlight options.
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I found this solution for Audio Books on WP7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147373
It creates a fake podcast that you import via Zune and sync to your device. It remembers playback position and works very well.
EDIT - sorry, I sooo misread your comment. HA! Yeah, ebooks are a bit cumbersome. There's a free reader though. Begins with an "F", but don't remember the name off the top of my head. It will read directly from your dropbox account. So you can put epubs and stuff in there, and this app will allow you to open and read them.
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Hi enigma! Can you please help with the process of installing Android in SD card while running nand mango? Thanks!
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There are a few tutorials and a video tutorial, just search for it. The process is fairly straightforward. Make sure you install storage unlock on your WP7 beforehand, otherwise you will not be able to use Android on SD or SD for any other purpose. You will need to unlock your SD before rebooting into Android every time, as WP7 will lock the card on startup.
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anseio said:
I found this solution for Audio Books on WP7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147373
It creates a fake podcast that you import via Zune and sync to your device. It remembers playback position and works very well.
EDIT - sorry, I sooo misread your comment. HA! Yeah, ebooks are a bit cumbersome. There's a free reader though. Begins with an "F", but don't remember the name off the top of my head. It will read directly from your dropbox account. So you can put epubs and stuff in there, and this app will allow you to open and read them.
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The problem is with loading anything other than pictures, music and videos through Zune. You either read it online through the dropbox or e-mail it to yourself. Crappy idea all around. No problems finding readers, problem getting your books onto a device. The reader is called Freda. Had to laugh at Acrobat PDF reader available on the market - to read what?
With Android you just have your readers (depending on the format you want to read, not all support every format out there), get your books onto your card and away you go. Couldn't be simpler. Hopefully WP7.5+ versions will correct the injustice done to docs and books.
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There are a few tutorials and a video tutorial, just search for it. The process is fairly straightforward. Make sure you install storage unlock on your WP7 beforehand, otherwise you will not be able to use Android on SD or SD for any other purpose. You will need to unlock your SD before rebooting into Android every time, as WP7 will lock the card on startup.
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The problem is with loading anything other than pictures, music and videos through Zune. You either read it online through the dropbox or e-mail it to yourself. Crappy idea all around. No problems finding readers, problem getting your books onto a device. The reader is called Freda. Had to laugh at Acrobat PDF reader available on the market - to read what?
With Android you just have your readers (depending on the format you want to read, not all support every format out there), get your books onto your card and away you go. Couldn't be simpler. Hopefully WP7.5+ versions will correct the injustice done to docs and books.
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I, too, am looking forward to when WP7 is more comprehensive.
Yeah, having Adobe Reader seems useless if you can't get the files to the device. Skydrive is helpful with that though. Can navigate to the skydrive files in Office and they open right up in Reader. Cumbersome in comparison to Android. Luckily, I'm an audiobook person.
Working on figuring out whether I want WP7 for audio or Android. Will need to test the battery drain to know for sure.
hi there.
this is my very first topic on xda developers. so be gentle to me please. first of all sorry for bad english.
i was using sonyericson w610i for past 6 years. but it get older so i need new phone. i bought Samsung Galaxy Y s5360 3 days ago and have some questions.
when i got it i almost no idea what is smart phone but i eager to learn so i read a lot of thing and Rooted my first phone after i take it from cargo company
here my questions.
with easy task killer startup auditor ram manager. i get this 112mb/290mb
i have SS but cant send cuz of safety policy of XDAf
is it good? i deleted ram manager, easy task killer , startup auditor after that. but still have Link2sd and doing my cleaning RAM in default task manager. getting +10+20 mb i think but it is still good 129/290. is it?
2)
i make a 300 mb ext3 partition on my 2 gb sd and try to link APP's to it. i first partition then open link2sd. link2sd said it is okey now restart then you can link. i said k and restarted. everything working fine. i started to link " facebook, foursquare,youtube,banking apps, etc..."
after that i looked memory info and suprised.
istill have 147 mb of 180 on internal hdd. i checked my new parttion and it is alright. it has 101 mb of linked app data on it.
so why my internal hdd storage did not rised?
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3) can you offer me a good apps for every thing. for managing for controlling. for internet browser? funny not LAGGY games ( of course all of them must be free) what do you use?
1. the taskkiller apps just consume more battery
This thread will get you started
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974338
Link2sd doesn't links all the files.
Actually no one can.
Only movable data is linked.
So even if you link an app that consumes 20 mb you may find your internal storage decrease by 15 mb.
Don't say. Just press....
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For apps....
Save some battery life by Juice defender.
Titanium backup for backing up apps, data etc.
Friendcaster for Facebook.
Wikipedia etc etc...
Oh and dont forget the XDA app..
Don't say.. Just press......
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Well to get the most of link to sd
1. Link those apps which are on internel phone memory and not those which install on your sd card
2. Periodically use clear all app caches in link 2sd
3. Keep the ads which do not consume much data like you can try fbtouch for fb instead of official Facebook app
4. try using relink application files in link2sd.. it may help increasing free memory..
[Q] "Insufficient storage available"with so much space available, please help.
Hi before some of you out there start throwing rocks at me hear me out please(I mean it about the brilliant developers on the forum not disrespect intended)
Is a know fact one of the problem than the Nexus 7 (2012) have if this stupid idea of Google not letting us to move applications to the what is presented as a SD storage (I know is not sd card per se) and so far nobody have come with a reliable solution to solve it now the new Nexus is out and I think nobody is going to bother to look in to it.
There is few ways to do it for what i have read but most of them fail 80% of the time create partitions the use of S2E and so on. I haven't still manage to suscefuly do this in a simple and 100% effective move, there is always something I have try many options available and still i haven't manage to move anything last I tried was the upgrade to nakasi because they claim the solve also the lag but nothing is really improving on the applications part so I am back to CM10 and the rest of the gang.
Please don't write nasty answers or call me names that I already know if you going to write something make worth it for me and for many others in this situation, asking about how much music or videos or even applications I have because this is not really the problem this something with in the core. my Nexus is almost empty no pictures no videos no games.
Nexus 7 32Gb WiFi I was on stock ROM, although unlocked and rooted. Now CM10
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 available *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too
Please Help and thanks
Why do you think you need the ability to move apps to SD storage?
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Your post barely makes sense. And to say you're let down by fellow xda members because one of us hasn't jumped to "fix" something that only you seem to think is broken, is ludicrous.
You won't find any help here I'll bet with your "blame everyone for your own problems" attitude my friend.
After your thread title....I'm betting someone who could or has figured out how to help you would just keep walking.
K...I'm done. And you got my vote for most ridiculous thread of the month award!!!!
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BTW. USB drive. Problem solved!!!
You're welcome.
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oscaraperez, on the Nexus 7, the /sdcard folder is actually a symlink to a path in /data/media. It's on the same partition as everything else in /data -- which is to say, your applications. They share the same pool of storage. So there's really nothing to be gained by moving apps to /sdcard.
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All aboard the whingemill! Sounds like a classic example of PEBKAC (although there's not often a keyboard or chair involved in mobile-land).
I don't think you understand how storage works on Nexus devices. You don't move apps to the virtual /sdcard location because you run out of space on some kind of /apps partition. Stuff on a Nexus device is in an essentially unified block with the exception of /system, and if you're installing everything there, well, that's your problem.
If you're out of space, you're out of space. Your music/movies/apps matter because, newsflash, they're what go on your storage.
I solved his issue. (USB storage for media)......why didn't he thank me yet?
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kj2112 said:
I solved his issue. (USB storage for media)......why didn't he thank me yet?
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Plus you can use the FolderMount app, and otg-helper to link directories to your USB. I use it to run large games's obb files from the USB, which only leaves the small .akp file on the device. As you can see from the screenshot, I have about 9 gigs of apps on my 8 GB nexus 7. FolderMount is a great app.
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Plus you can use the FolderMount app, and otg-helper to mount directories to your USB. I use it to run large games's obb files from the USB, which only leaves the small .akp file on the device. As you can see from the screenshot, I have about 9 gigs of apps on my 8 GB nexus 7. FolderMount is a great app.
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I am sorry I will try to change the title
The first think I said is "please before you start throwing rocks at me hear me out" and "Please don't write nasty answers or call me names that I already know if you going to write something make worth it".
Pirateghost you will see down below, thank you
khaytsus I will try my best to "Speak the speach" sorry, thank you
kj2112 you are a Senior member I think you are the one with the attitude just because I am a Junior member doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about is plenty reference to this issue on Google have a look if you want before write such answer, there is even a couple of technical intented ways to work around but they don't work.
Is also a mention to this here ond XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837241 he is still waiting for help
There was a nice technical explanation on why Google is having this sort of restriction but I can't find it also explaining the issue about this trap memory
Perhaps the title is no very nice and I apologize for it and by the way I have no friends like you, your answer is just sad and prove your ignorance on this particular issue.
Rirere You misunderstand me ENTIRELY. Just because I may not be a programmer or a modder does NOT mean I am a complete idiot to technology
I thanks those one than are showing some interest on this and I will explain myself a little bit better because english is not my first language I will quote some others post around the web please bare with me and thank you to those than I using theirs remarks and even screen shots.
Nexus 7 32Gb WiFi I was on stock ROM, although unlocked and rooted. Now CM10
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 free *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too?
I did a search and seen some advice on downloading app Trim (Lagfix). But I can't even download apps (insufficience space).
* I know Android needs 500MB of space free to work with. Every OS reserves memory for various reasons. What puzzles me - is that even when I have deleted lots of games/movies basically everithing already - its still saying insufficient space? Its like no space is freeing up. I've uninstalled/deleted most of the apps.
Even Trying to update some apps I am getting an insufficient storage error - but when I look with System Info I can see plenty of space, including the cache
kj2112, Rirere are you with me?
I know there is not and SD card per Se and the nexus use those 32GB space for everything That is the reason one of the recommendation somewhere was to create and mount a partition ext4 or ext3 and with the help of S2E move the aplication like a virtual external sd card to free some of the APP space
I am calling it SD card for the benefit of other juniors members like me in case they read this post
I try to partition my SD card using ROM manager but is not working. The idea is for the table to think that part of my SD card is create a partition on the SD card that acts like internal memory, not external memory. This partition must be in theformat ext partition.I like a large ext partition because I install a lot of apps. I have approximately 240 apps on my Titanium backup pro. I made the ext partition 1.9 GB.( is recomeded not to go more 2Gb) Note: This supposed to erase everything on the SD card so I backed up first. Benefit: The tablet thinks the ext partition on the SD card is internal memory I have tried to mount the ext partition even used my Ubuntu laptop and gparted and blah blah you guys got the idea better than me for sure because I just fallow others people recommendations.
S2E seem to be working but is clearly not since there is not a mounted "ext" I have also discover researching around than S2E is also having problems with the Nexus7 in particular I have try to contact the developer OlegKrikun but so far not answer meanwhile one guy claim he solve the issue inside the S2E application but din't work for me I have also tried link2sd whit no luck.
So maybe now I have explained myself a little bit better please be patient English is no my language you have some how to read betewnt the lines in resume:
- Out of memory (even after deleting every application)
- only a fresh flash clear everything
- creating this virtual space or ext partition will allow me to install and run few more application (like any other phone will allow me to move to external memory) expanding the 500Mb limitation I know a little bit how the Nexus storage work Rirere
- jfmcbrayer I disagree with you unless I am doing something else wrong the benefit of moving app to this virtual sd (ext Partition) will allow me to install many more aplications.
- kj2112 I can't thank you because you have been plain rude and not helpful.
- bluecarbon thank I was doing that but as you can see there is some other kind of issue my Nexus is almos empty and still is giving me the storage error
Anyway thanks to those than really want to help and I am sorry I will try to change the title
I din't wanted to make personal
As for the tittle: "I am a bit let down by my fellow forum members" is dedicate to you kj2112 and the member like you ... you got my vote for most ridiculous thread reply of the month award!!!! put you effort in helping and not in make me look stupid.
Is 3:15 here in my country I apologized if was a bit rude and cut it short
I have yet to see a compelling reason for moving apps to storage. You have the whole thing confused. Your apps all reside in /data except for the ROM which resides in/system. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with what you are talking about.
I think you are confused on how the system works and are causing more harm than good trying to circumvent the way Android works.
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I won't quote your huge post OP.....and frankly, I am not concerned with your issue or a solution. I'm concerned with you suggesting XDA members have let YOU down by not resolving your issue.
I don't care about storage issues, and most others aren't either....there are many ways to boost your storage....without an SD card.
If you look at my profile....and please do....you'll see I have however many posts....and almost half that number in thanks given to me. Not bragging at all.....just pointing out that I'm a productive and helpful member here at xda and have the thanks to prove it.
So again......blaming your fellow xda members for not solving your issue is not going to win you any respect here....and will make it even harder for you to find help in the future.
My suggestion.....type please delete as your thread title.....change all your posts here to simply "delete".......then politely ask a moderator to delete this thread before too many see it, or anyone looks at your profile and sees it.
It's called damage control.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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kj2112 said:
I won't quote your huge post OP.....and frankly, I am not concerned with your issue or a solution. I'm concerned with you suggesting XDA members have let YOU down by not resolving your issue.
I don't care about storage issues, and most others aren't either....there are many ways to boost your storage....without an SD card.
If you look at my profile....and please do....you'll see I have however many posts....and almost half that number in thanks given to me. Not bragging at all.....just pointing out that I'm a productive and helpful member here at xda and have the thanks to prove it.
So again......blaming your fellow xda members for not solving your issue is not going to win you any respect here....and will make it even harder for you to find help in the future.
My suggestion.....type please delete as your thread title.....change all your posts here to simply "delete".......then politely ask a moderator to delete this thread before too many see it, or anyone looks at your profile and sees it.
It's called damage control.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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You still not reading about my issue, now you just not happy about my comment towards you and I already apologize for the title I can't change now and I will not delete my post because it is an issue for me and I asking for help to solve it I notice how many people appreciate your help 503 thanks that is very nice, but that is no my case you were rude to me and I am entitle to my opinion just like you. If you don't care about my problem is fine perhap one day I have a problem than interes you and you may feel like helping me
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Pirateghost said:
I have yet to see a compelling reason for moving apps to storage. You have the whole thing confused. Your apps all reside in /data except for the ROM which resides in/system. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with what you are talking about.
I think you are confused on how the system works and are causing more harm than good trying to circumvent the way Android works.
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I most be really wrong here but he is reporting the same problem "No space" even if is no true, sorry I am missing something beyond my capabilities.
please be so kind to explain to me how I still have "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available
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Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
oscaraperez said:
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 Insufficient space error messagebut is not true, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
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oscaraperez said:
Dear Moderator Could you please change the tittle of my post to: Nexus 7 "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available, please help.
Some members found the original one a bit harsh and I don't want to offend anyone I have try myself but couldn't therefore my apologies on the first post
Thanks
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Edit your first post....you can change the title too.
I told you a work around for storage problems, as did others. USB sticks/drives BTW.
Again.....its not that I am not interested in your issue.....I just didn't like the apparent tone of your title....there are many people here that seem to blame other members and especially rom devs for their problems. And most issues on this entire forum are due to not following instructions and not reading through threads for tips and warnings.
So I apologize for coming across harsh....but its a sore spot for many members here. A lot of people seem to have a sense of entitlement here and are too lazy to read threads, opening posts for roms and even the xda rules. It just gets some people's backs up....like my own.
So good luck with your issue and I'd help more, but aside from storage self management and/or USB storage.....I have no other ideas.
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oscaraperez said:
I most be really wrong here but he is reporting the same problem "No space" even if is no true, sorry I am missing something beyond my capabilities.
please be so kind to explain to me how I still have "Insufficient storage available" message on app update or installations with so much space available
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By the way....sounds to me like your system partition is full. That's totally different than your virtual sd card.....which means all you can do is get rid of some big games and apps.
Correct me if I'm wrong someone ....I know my s2's inner workings much more than my N7.
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kj2112 said:
Edit your first post....you can change the title too.
I told you a work around for storage problems, as did others. USB sticks/drives BTW.
Again.....its not that I am not interested in your issue.....I just didn't like the apparent tone of your title....there are many people here that seem to blame other members and especially rom devs for their problems. And most issues on this entire forum are due to not following instructions and not reading through threads for tips and warnings.
So I apologize for coming across harsh....but its a sore spot for many members here. A lot of people seem to have a sense of entitlement here and are too lazy to read threads, opening posts for roms and even the xda rules. It just gets some people's backs up....like my own.
So good luck with your issue and I'd help more, but aside from storage self management and/or USB storage.....I have no other ideas.
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Done thanks
I am not blaming anybody here this is a google even if you guys don't believe me I have plenty space available I have basically unistalled and deleted and clean everything as far as I capable there is no need for storage management here if you notice on the details of my storage. Men I wish I can find again the reference to this problem on the other forum I'll keep looking.
similar problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877916
Well thanks and again my apologies for the old title to you and all the others
oscaraperez said:
Rirere You misunderstand me ENTIRELY. Just because I may not be a programmer or a modder does NOT mean I am a complete idiot to technology
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You don't have to be a "complete idiot" to create your own problems. PEBKAC implies a lot more about a user's attitude than their technical proficiency, and although you've been gracious enough to fix the title, it's still pretty evident from your first post that your initial approach was pretty damn lacking. You don't walk up to people, insult them with a backhanded remark, and then blame them for not helping you.
oscaraperez said:
I have barely anything left on my nexus - and its still giving the same message.
According to Internal Storage settings:
Total Space: 27.58 Gb
Currently 17.90Gb available
Apps - 532mb used 454 free *"ATTENTION TO THIS VALUE"
Pictures/videos - 748kb
Audio - 332kb
App Downloads - 9.6gb
Downloads 4.29 Mb
Cached data - 83.42Mb
I went into settings and cleared cached data too?
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I'm going to call it and say you screwed up a flash somewhere along the line. None of the stock Android devices I own (or any of the test devices at my workplace) have an entry for "free" data outside of the primary report at the top. It sounds like somewhere, you actually physically partitioned off /data or created a virtual container for it. I certainly can't remember ever seeing this issue in Cyanogenmod by default anywhere, and I've used it for a while.
oscaraperez said:
I did a search and seen some advice on downloading app Trim (Lagfix). But I can't even download apps (insufficience space).
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Lagfix is an implementation of fstrim, which marks deleted blocks as no longer in use by the filesystem. But it's not a tool designed to increase free storage space. Your OS knows and realizes that it's got space available. fstrim just politely notifies your memory controller that such is the case.
oscaraperez said:
* I know Android needs 500MB of space free to work with. Every OS reserves memory for various reasons. What puzzles me - is that even when I have deleted lots of games/movies basically everithing already - its still saying insufficient space? Its like no space is freeing up. I've uninstalled/deleted most of the apps.
Even Trying to update some apps I am getting an insufficient storage error - but when I look with System Info I can see plenty of space, including the cache
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Android doesn't "need" 500MB free, but like any UNIX/LINUX-similar system, Android wants space available so it can page to disk. However, it will pull this silently from elsewhere in the filesystem and it would just slow down if you were truly out of space.
oscaraperez said:
kj2112, Rirere are you with me?
I know there is not and SD card per Se and the nexus use those 32GB space for everything That is the reason one of the recommendation somewhere was to create and mount a partition ext4 or ext3 and with the help of S2E move the aplication like a virtual external sd card to free some of the APP space
I am calling it SD card for the benefit of other juniors members like me in case they read this post
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Good intentions, bad idea. When people who don't know what's going on try to use technical labels to describe a problem, it just makes things harder for anyone to help you.
oscaraperez said:
I try to partition my SD card using ROM manager but is not working. The idea is for the table to think that part of my SD card is create a partition on the SD card that acts like internal memory, not external memory. This partition must be in theformat ext partition.I like a large ext partition because I install a lot of apps. I have approximately 240 apps on my Titanium backup pro. I made the ext partition 1.9 GB.( is recomeded not to go more 2Gb) Note: This supposed to erase everything on the SD card so I backed up first. Benefit: The tablet thinks the ext partition on the SD card is internal memory I have tried to mount the ext partition even used my Ubuntu laptop and gparted and blah blah you guys got the idea better than me for sure because I just fallow others people recommendations.
S2E seem to be working but is clearly not since there is not a mounted "ext" I have also discover researching around than S2E is also having problems with the Nexus7 in particular I have try to contact the developer OlegKrikun but so far not answer meanwhile one guy claim he solve the issue inside the S2E application but din't work for me I have also tried link2sd whit no luck.
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In order to mount your device's partitions on an external device, you would need to configure the onboard MTP to expose more partitions than /sdcard. Since what you're describing isn't default behavior (read: shouldn't be happening), you should stop mucking around with partitions and reflash completely to stock. Since you've created partitions already though, that's not as easy as it would be otherwise.
oscaraperez said:
So maybe now I have explained myself a little bit better please be patient English is no my language you have some how to read betewnt the lines in resume:
- Out of memory (even after deleting every application)
- only a fresh flash clear everything
- creating this virtual space or ext partition will allow me to install and run few more application (like any other phone will allow me to move to external memory) expanding the 500Mb limitation I know a little bit how the Nexus storage work Rirere
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If you knew "a little bit," you would not be trying to create partitions, virtual or otherwise. Your internal table is screwed up if this is happening, and I definitely can't recall ever having this issue with Cyanogenmod based ROMs.
oscaraperez said:
- jfmcbrayer I disagree with you unless I am doing something else wrong the benefit of moving app to this virtual sd (ext Partition) will allow me to install many more aplications.
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Even if you were doing it right, it would have precious little bearing on how Android is supposed to work by default. The new unified filestructures were introduced in 4.0.x to solve this issue.
Bottom line, revert your partitions back to stock. I don't think can emphasize enough that trying to fix a non-existent problem without fully understanding the underlying technology-- and I mean fully-- causes far more problems than it tends to solve.
Please leave alone men I need help to solve the problem
Rirere said:
You don't have to be a "complete idiot" to create your own problems. PEBKAC implies a lot more about a user's attitude than their technical proficiency, and although you've been gracious enough to fix the title, it's still pretty evident from your first post that your initial approach was pretty damn lacking. You don't walk up to people, insult them with a backhanded remark, and then blame them for not helping you.
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WOW thanks you definetly a nice guy I can see that I din't create any problem the message is there for "insufficient storage space" the rest I try it afterward I have flash and reflash 2 time stock 2 times CM10 and after some time is back
Rirere said:
I'm going to call it and say you screwed up a flash somewhere along the line. None of the stock Android devices I own (or any of the test devices at my workplace) have an entry for "free" data outside of the primary report at the top. It sounds like somewhere, you actually physically partitioned off /data or created a virtual container for it. I certainly can't remember ever seeing this issue in Cyanogenmod by default anywhere, and I've used it for a while.
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right now I can't update the applications and free space value is clearly state at the bottom right of Storage/Apps/Running
Rirere said:
Lagfix is an implementation of fstrim, which marks deleted blocks as no longer in use by the filesystem. But it's not a tool designed to increase free storage space. Your OS knows and realizes that it's got space available. fstrim just politely notifies your memory controller that such is the case.
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I agree with you here I was try some others recommendation but not harm doneby this
Rirere said:
Android doesn't "need" 500MB free, but like any UNIX/LINUX-similar system, Android wants space available so it can page to disk. However, it will pull this silently from elsewhere in the filesystem and it would just slow down if you were truly out of space.
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There is many reference to this requirement whether is silently or not at the end of the day after going under the 500Mb the problems start sorry for my lack of technical explanation I din't know that part
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Good intentions, bad idea. When people who don't know what's going on try to use technical labels to describe a problem, it just makes things harder for anyone to help you.
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And you are not really helping by attacking me post like you steer others away from even trying to help
Rirere said:
In order to mount your device's partitions on an external device, you would need to configure the onboard MTP to expose more partitions than /sdcard. Since what you're describing isn't default behavior (read: shouldn't be happening), you should stop mucking around with partitions and reflash completely to stock. Since you've created partitions already though, that's not as easy as it would be otherwise.
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the partition were never created as I mention before I couldn't do it
Rirere said:
If you knew "a little bit," you would not be trying to create partitions, virtual or otherwise. Your internal table is screwed up if this is happening, and I definitely can't recall ever having this issue with Cyanogenmod based ROMs.
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What can I say is happening to me and few others google it
Rirere said:
Bottom line, revert your partitions back to stock. I don't think can emphasize enough that trying to fix a non-existent problem without fully understanding the underlying technology-- and I mean fully-- causes far more problems than it tends to solve.
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You quote some of my comment conveniently avoiding others
I reflash to CM10 I have no partion there is nothing screw up because of my wrong doing but I still have the same error I just try to get help to solve went some body is drowning you don't throw rocks at them I make a mistake on the title and I change it and apologize but you still found more issues just take for what it is a grammatical error and error of translation from my language (brain) in to yours. If you can't do anything else but to offend me why don't you just forget about this post and move on let me be a soon I find more reference to this problems i will keep updating the post whit the links hopping for some body to come along a notice and perhaps help me and help the others with this issue.
I know than I no making myself understood but why people don't just come any other explanation about my apparent lack of space and is not true I have no games no music no pictures only few applications.
Some others working with some phones with integrated memory have encounter this issue and solve it with partitions but is not working on the nexus7 why I have no the option to do so like the others and then like them have the option back to move the application on the "App info page" I have and HTC OneX on that phone I can move the application somewhere ( called it virtual external card for example) I use SDMove I have plenty space and after almost 2 years I have never run out of space including music videos games etc how this work How HTC work around this if you can help I will appreciate it
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For those that are interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg4/comments/3z1bfi/enable_adoptable_storage_on_your_lg_g4_stock_no/
This does work on our phone. Keep in mind that it will FORMAT your sd card so back it up first. This isn't my info and its mentioned in another thread in the international S7 forum (on my phone so I'll update with a link since its buried in a thread). So thank those that did the actual work.
PSA: if you have a slow sd card I don't recommend this. Class 10 should be fine but UHS*x* is best.
Edit: Here's the thread in the International S7 forum
Also there's a post in there saying we should replace "private" with "mixed". This is the post in that thread regarding it.
For some more reading:
AndroidCentral
Another Guide on enabling AS
Any issues like the ones reported in the reddit thread?
pottyvick said:
Any issues like the ones reported in the reddit thread?
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I don't know. I have no need to expand my internal storage right now so I haven't tried it. I just posted it up for everyone here in case anyone needed it. Maybe it will calm a few people down out there who are upset that adoptable storage wasn't "included" even though it was originally going to be.
Thanks a lot for this great work. FYI, when I did this, I couldn't get Google Music to download to the SD card. I guess it downloads to internal storage first, and when the SD card is not adopted storage, Google Music sees that it's there. But when it is adopted storage, it doesn't - which I imagine is as expected. So it pushed the music to primary storage. I imagine the workaround is to use a 50/50 split or something, and then the SD card will still show up.
One last thing needed
Go into sd card and select migrate
works great! did this w/ my new 128 GB sandisk. i was a little confused as to why my storage was already full, but that was b/c I never did the migrate step. The system doesn't see storage correctly, but a small price to pay for adoptable storage...now I just wish it didn't take a day and a half to transfer to/from the damn thing
PunishedSnake said:
One last thing needed
Go into sd card and select migrate
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At what stage do you do this migrate step? Is it after the whole process is done?
Thanks!
Yes at the end
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Keep in mind I haven't done this to the s7 as right now I intend on swapping for the HTC 10 but I did do it to the HTC m8